Category: Alt-Right

Conquest of a Movement

More of the same.

As part of a paen to Nordicist Madison Grant on a typical Alt Right blog, we read some fascinating comments.  For example:

Grant was uniting Dutch, Huguenot, Irish, British, Scandinavian, and to a lesser extent, German…

What happened to “ethnonationalism?”  It dissipates upon crossing the Atlantic?

Ditch the Irish and emphasize German more than Huguenot, and that’s a good encapsulation of Der Movement’s affirmative action program (or at least who can attend an Alt Right meeting sans all the “extreme vetting”).

Grant’s biographer tells an anecdote that when Italians claimed that non-Nordic Italians were capable of great things, Grant and his colleague Henry Fairfield Osborn declared that Christopher Columbus da Vinci, Galileo, Raphael, Donatello, Botticelli, Petrarch, and Dante were Nordic. Poles Kosciusko and Pulaski were Nordic too.

Oh, yes, of course they were. Each and every one!  If it were possible to do genetic testing on those individuals, they’d overlap perfectly with Dolph Lundgren (or Patrik Hermansson).  Julius Evola was too!  And Michelangelo!  And, quite obviously, the fair-complexioned, Celto-Germanic, finely chiseled features of Benito Mussolini reflect a pure Nordic ancestry!

One needs to separate Grant’s concerns about changing American demographics – concerns that were certainly legitimate – from assertions that virtually any Southern or Eastern European that accomplished anything of value was “Nordic.”  Even if the all the aforementioned individuals were “Nordic” (which they were not), that would still leave a large number of important Wop/Polack, etc. historical figures who were “Mediterranean” and “Alpine.”  Racial and ethnic preservation does not require that every important historical figure belonged to your favorite racial type.

Madison Grant’s writings are surprisingly sympathetic to Northern Italians, who he claimed were Alpines with much Nordic blood.

Like Il Duce!  Of course, contra the solipsist fantasies of Muscleman Mangan, Northern Italians were a distinct minority among Italian emigration to the USA, said emigration being something one would presume be of interest to Grant and his followers.

Unless a Pole or Italian’s skull was measured by calipers by an expert, they could plausibly claim to be of Nordic heritage.

Since both “Nordics” and “Mediterraneans” are equally “dolichocephalic” I fail to see how the Der Movement Caliper Test would be of any use here for the Wops.  The Polacks maybe – but, really, are even long-headed Italians and Poles really considered akin to Swedes?  Would they get free access to all those (strictly secret!) Alt Right meetings, for example?  Would a greasy swarthoid Wop or gook-eyed Polack be considered “Nordic” even if they passed this caliper test?

Madison Grant’s theories of three races of Europe have been altered by science because new discoveries related to DNA. The data related to race is now organized in a different way, but not too different from Grant. The following article describes three “races” in Europe…

Another outright “movement” lie, hoping that people won’t actually read the article, which contains statements like this:

Two years ago, Reich’s group uncovered genetic evidence that most present-day Europeans are a mixture of groups related to southern Europeans, Near Easterners, and a third group most closely related to Native Americans. “That was a crazy observation, but it’s very strong statistically,” Reich says. “We argued that this is because of the contribution of an ancient north Eurasian population some of whose members contributed to the peopling of the Americas more than 15,000 years ago, and others of which later migrated to Europe.”

That’s “not too different” from Grant?  Are you mad?  Or just another typical fundamentally dishonest Der Movement apparatchik?  This does not mean we need to agree with the interpretations of Reich (or of the article itself, and whether or not the article actually accurately describes Reich’s findings) – that’s not the point.  The point is that the article’s conclusions do not support the contention of the Counter-Currents post.  It’s as ludicrous as AltRight.com fetishists pointing at recent Ancient Egyptian DNA evidence – showing a Near Eastern genetic background with a Negro minority admixture – and stating that those findings “prove Arthur Kemp right” – when Kemp instead promotes the idea of Ancient Egypt as a “Nordic desert empire.”  Der Movement is literally the dictionary definition of the phrase “fundamentally dishonest.”

…Grant was a scientist – not a pseudoscientist. He was conducting research experiments that were repeatable, and they adhered to the scientific method.

Please explain this. What’s repeatable?  What “research experiments” were being conducted?  Hint: discussing historical events or expressing opinions about the relative merits of ethnies – even if those opinions turn out to be absolutely correct – is not “conducting repeatable research experiments.”  More evidence that the Alt Right knows absolute zero about scientific research, what it actually is, and how it is “conducted.”  What do you expect from a “movement” that confuses solipsism with reality?  

For those who believe the “whites and Asians” as allies meme, I offer this quote from our wise past elders. The Asians haven’t necessary bought into “whites and Asians” are allies idea. I even believe that the “higher” IQ of Asians is also largely a myth.

But we should all still embrace Derbyshire, HBD, and the Alt Wrong.

While David Hackett Fischer treats the Quaker and German/Pennsylvania Dutch settlers with great reverence, Madison Grant writes about them quite coldly. Grant argues that the Germans of the American Midlands were Alpines whose clannish ways made them an impediment to national unity. Grant could have extensively covered the extensive Irish (but Nordic) pathologies manifest throughout the 19th century, but we see here how current events can cloud the minds of the most scientific and unsentimental of white advocates. Madison Grant lived at a time when his Patrician Class collogues were strangely in favor of American intervention in World War I against Germany. As a result, he exaggerates Midwestern German differences.

First, what is a “collogue” as a noun rather than as a verb?  Second, all this talk of the Irish as “Nordic” would come as a surprise to Grant’s associate Stoddard who, as I recall, made a big deal about alleged “Mediterranean” elements in the Irish population.  Third, and most important, note that when Der Movement has to deal with Grant being “cold” to Germans (blasphemy!) excuses need to be made.  “Current events” clouded the mind of this “scientific” activist.  Can’t we then say the same about other issues: the large influx of Southern and Eastern European immigrants “clouded” Grant’s mind and led him to “exaggerate” White ethnic differences.  What’s good for the Kraut goose should be good for the Wop/Polack gander, no?

Der Movement, at least its American branch, hasn’t generated a genuinely new idea since WWII apart from those of Yockey, and Der Movement (including Yockey worshippers and peddlers of cheap kitsch like “Yockey commemorative plates” – something an elitist like Yockey would no doubt despise) essentially dismisses and rejects Yockey’s chief idea.  I don’t know: probably Yockey would be more interested about whether someone agreed with his Imperium idea rather than whether they were hawking plates with his likeness on them.  How about a Francis Parker Yockey Commemorative Tin Cup?  More appropriate, I think.

And what would well-educated patricians like Grant and Stoddard think of the Alt Right, clowns yelling about “Pepe” and “Kek” and milling around in the streets like rejects from a cosplay convention?  Tell me again about how superior “White nationalism 2.0” is compared to “White nationalism 1.0.”  Seems much the same to me, except version 2.0 has better street activism, worse “optics,” and more shameless panhandling.

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Meet Shah Jorjani

Madness.

Let’s take a look at some “movement” stupidity from several weeks ago.  I’ve been busy with the DifferInt analyses over the past few weeks, but will get around to evaluating Der Movement’ s more recent antics when I have the time.

We can start with the following.

Since Greg Johnson quoted excerpts from Jorjani to, I presume, take another swipe at Spencer, let’s take a closer look at some other points Jorjani has to make.  When you read this, please remember that Jorjani has been taken seriously by BOTH Johnson and Spencer; he’s spoken at Counter-Currents events, and he was high in the councils of the Alt Right corporation (never mind Arktos).

….Croatia is a part of Iranian civilization. During Tito’s rule, which imposed a Slavic identity on all of Yugoslavia, scholars were actually prosecuted, imprisoned, and even tortured for researching and writing about the Iranian origin of the Croatian people. Specifically, they are part of the Scythian branch of Iranians – cousins of the Persians who rode deep into Europe.

Yes sir, Croatians are actually Iranians with a dastardly fake Slavic identity.  No doubt – no doubt whatsoever! – population genetics studies will place Croatians right there with Iranians and distant from those alien Balkan Slavs!  And if such studies don’t yield that result, then, by golly, it’s the ghost of Tito imposing an anti-Promethean contamination, falsifying the genetics!

Steve Bannon was known to be a reader of Arktos books and Michael’s plan was to send me into the White House to cultivate a relationship with Bannon, and through him, to influence President Trump. My main reason for wanting to have such influence was to help determine Iran policy.

As the Iron Sheik used to say, “Iran number one!”

…the funding for a capital investment that would have established me as the majority shareholder of the Alt-Right Corporation…

Very, very, very carefully consider the ramifications of this delusional Persian supremacist intimately involved with the Alt Right, a “movement” ostensibly representing the interests of indigenous Europeans.

This is about the reorientation of the trajectory of geopolitics in the Middle East, the Caucasus, and Central Asia. It is about aborting a Renaissance of the Persian Empire…

And at the heart of this world historical mission is…Jorjani.

Except that we are not Germans. 

No, you’re not.

Through the Scythians (i.e. the Saxons) and the Alans, we lent the Germans and Goths our Faustian (i.e. Zoroastrian) genius and chivalric spirit but those northern Barbarians never understood the essence of our cosmopolitan humanism.

Err…isn’t “cosmopolitan humanism” the very thing all the grand “traditionalists” of the Alt Right allegedly oppose?  Cosmopolitan humanism?  What would Evola think? Savitri Devi?  Oh, the Kali Yuga of it all!  The men who can’t tell time!  The Age of Iron!  Oh Guenon, where are thou?

Al-Ahwaz and a Kurdish nation have nothing but Sunni fundamentalism and barbaric tribalism to offer the world, whereas our Persian civilizational heritage has not only held Iran together for centuries it has, repeatedly, offered all of humanity the best chance at forming a world order based on innovation, compassion, and social justice.

Social justice?  I guess that goes along with all of the “cosmopolitan humanism.”  How about multiculturalism?  The wonderfully cosmopolitan Persian Empire was multicultural, no?  Let’s have the Alt Right fight for multicultural cosmopolitan humanist social justice!  

We know that you do not really have a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people.” You are oppressed by a rogue dictatorship. Rest assured that after we liberate ourselves and secure our future, we will bring the ever-living fire of true freedom to your bountiful continent as we once brought it to Greece. Far be it from us to leave your resistance movement in the hands of the Alt-Right or comparable culturally impoverished and regressive reactionaries. We are coming to save you, America. So speaks the living spirit of Xerxes, King of Kings, Light of the Aryans…

Once again, both Johnson and Spencer think/have thought that this Jorjani is someone that needs to be seriously listened to, someone who needs to be high in WN councils.


The essential problem here, I believe, is the strong need, the strong desire, the strong craving, of the Far Right for affirmation and approval.  And when such affirmation and approval comes from someone with some sort of credentials, such as Jorjani’s academic status, then the craving becomes too intense to resist.  Caution is thrown to the winds, which is one major reason that the Far Right is so easily infiltrated, betrayed, hobbled by defectives, and infested with all sorts of bizarre flotsam and jetsam.  Further, since most in the Far Right lack any sort of formal scientific training whatsoever, they are unable to distinguish between what’s valuable and what’s not (hint: the HBD cult falls into the latter category).  Therefore, someone with a solid scientific background would have been less apt to become impressed with Jorjani’s esoteric techno-babble, and would have looked with prudent skepticism on taking anything else the fellow had to say seriously.

When oh when will the Alt Right darkness be dispelled from the land so that sane racial nationalism can come into the light?

A Good Podcast: 11/14/17

Transatlantic Pact.

Listen here. The best podcast of the Alt Right continues to create good material – it is not necessary to have podcasts that consist of Beavis-and-Butthead style sniggering, or cunning parasites thanking their deluded hosts (“donors”) for handing over their hard-earned shekels.

Good discussion about “Whiteness” and the balance between pan-Europeanism and nationalism. The idea that individual European ethnies cannot survive on their own, good point, and one I’ve made many times.

Perhaps normal Europeans are not contemplating war with each other, but crazed ethnonationalists sure do, with their advocacy of intra-European “ethnic cleansing.”

Alt Right: Embracing Evil

It’s the Alt Wrong.

Let’s see:

Is involved in an inter-racial marriage, and supports miscegenation.

Is a despicable HBDer who worships at the feet of Jews and Asians.

An idiot who ignores the demographic facts on the ground and states that there is no existential threat to Whites.

A multiculturalist who supports a multi-racial “stew” society.

A lickspittle philosemite.

Who wants to associate with an Alt Right that includes execrable trash like Derbyshire?  Now, I’m sure that Alt Right defenders will state that the Alt Right cannot control who does or does not identify with this “movement.”  However, the AltRight.com faction had no problem disavowing the Alt Lite, so why can’t they do the same to Derbyshire and the rest of the Alt Wrong?  Is it because they agree with the Alt Wrong? With all the hate toward “boomers” coming from Alt Right Millennials, why do they grovel to a decrepit race-mixing boomer like Derbyshire?  And before I was “banned” from Counter-Currents, that site censored my criticism of Derbyshire’s comments about child porn – criticism that was nothing more than just citing Derbyshire’s own words on that subject!  So it is disingenuous of the Alt Right to just shrug and say that they have no control over Derbyshire and his identification with the Alt Right.

We can contrast all the financial support and meeting invitations and protection given to Derbyshire compared to how a good man like Robert Griffin is essentially ignored (except by TOO; I give credit to MacDonald for giving Griffin a forum).  Contrast Griffin’s wise words with Derbyshire’s self-interested pro-miscegenation rambling.

That VDARE is getting the lion’s share of “movement” donations, and that some of that goes to Derbyshire, is absolutely disgusted.  Not surprising tough.  Not surprising at all.


Let’s delve deeper into this; this is important.  


Let’s consider Derbyshire some more.  Not only is all written above true, and documented in his own writing, but let us not forget: for years, Derbyshire was openly hostile to White nationalism.  He wrote an insulting “hit piece” against Kevin MacDonald (it was when I wrote a riposte defending MacDonald that Derbyshire first came to my attention).  He openly mocked WN’s as “crazy” and “nutty” and “obsessed with racial purity.”  He publicly agreed with the assessment of Amren conference attendees as “latrine flies.”  He challenged critics of his marriage to come to his home so he could greet them “in the appropriate manner” (i.e., an elderly fist in their face, I suppose).  He sided with GNXP against WNs, and had one of the GNXPers at his home (welcomed, not attacked).  He praised the likes of the anti-WN and anti-Salter “Jayman.”  


But what happened when National Review kicked Derbyshire to the curb over his “the talk” article? Guess who it was who eagerly embraced Derbyshire and gave him new life – and money! – to spread his repellent views?  You guessed it – the “movement.”  The same “movement” Derbyshire attacked with relish for years now fell all over themselves to rescue him, including inviting him to address all those “latrine flies” he previously mocked in (digital) print. And, of course, he gets money and more money, supported via VDARE, etc.  And he is praised by “movement” commentators on blog threads.  This anti-WN race-mixer is propped up by the same WNs he’s always despised.


On the other hand, let’s look at how genuine WNs are treated.  Let’s consider this Sallis fellow – a WN for over twenty years, someone who made a major contribution in popularizing Salter’s EGI concept in the “movement” (and defending it against critics), among many other contributions.  Ted has essentially been “blacklisted” by Der Movement for the “crime” of questioning “movement” dogma and for criticizing “movement” leaders and for asserting that these “leaders” should be held accountable for their actions.  The anti-WN Derbyshire embraced; the WN Sallis is persona non grata.


Explanation?  I put forth two explanations, both of which are undoubtedly true.


First, many in Der Movement consider White nationalism as a money-making enterprise, as a way of earning a living (and living well).  They may well be genuine activists, sincere in their beliefs, but they want their money.  Derbyshire was never a threat to that – his attacks could easily be explained away by his Chinese wife and half-Chinese children.  Criticism coming from a twenty plus year veteran of WN is a whole other story, potentially far more damaging.  Let’s quarantine that “infection” before folks start getting the wrong ideas and the shekels stop pouring in.  Yes, there is also the issue of bruised egos among the thin-skinned, but I would think the money is more of a factor here.


But that first explanation does not explain the extent of the discrepancy; it does not explain the fervor with which Derbyshire been embraced, and the alacrity by which Sallis has been, in contrast, blacklisted.  Thus, second, I must invoke the “movement’s” affirmative action program.  Derbyshire – even with his Chinese family connections – is “one of the boys” so years of extreme anti-WN activism is breezily dismissed; Sallis, on the other hand, is an “outsider,” so decades of contributions are flushed down the memory hole before you can even say the words “latrine flies.”


The “rock stars” may not want to hear any of this, but it’s true.  And it’s a damning indictment of their poor character.

Another Alt Right Infiltration

More extreme vetting I suppose.

Read this.  Excerpts, emphasis added:

Back in January, I e-mailed Dr. Greg Johnson, organizer of Northwest Forum, Seattle’s hottest closed-door white nationalist convention, asking for an interview on the latest in regional racism. He turned me down….Also thanks to the internet, it only took me about an hour to change my identity from David Lewis, Seattle historian, to Dave Lewis, Neo-Nazi film editor and aspiring book critic from Charlottesville, currently living in Los Angeles. This Dave Lewis has never been to Seattle, but has always wanted to attend Northwest Forum.
My film editor persona dangled a giant chunk of cheese in front of Dr. Johnson. In addition to being a racist, Johnson is also a huge cinephile who has published two books of “pro-white” movie reviews wherein he rants against Zootopia as “pure evil” but surprisingly enjoyed 8 Mile. The role of film editor also worked to my advantage because, despite a recent fundraising spike, the white nationalist movement still has a hard time attracting people with artistic or technical talent.
Dr. Johnson bit the cheese. 

If I wrote this as parody, I would be accused of taking cheap shots with juvenile mockery.  Unfortunately, this is not parody; it is reality.

Entry into Northwest Forum typically requires “extreme vetting,” which means meeting in person and getting a beer with one of the Northwest’s white separatist organizations like True Cascadia. But I didn’t even have to send in a photo after mentioning that, as a Charlottesville native (actually from Ballard), I was writing an essay titled Tear Down Lee and Put Up Lincoln: Abraham Lincoln, World’s Greatest White Nationalist. 

Another transparently flimsy “resume.”  And he got in without being Swedish: Good work, David.

Just to scrub out any doubt, I was also carrying a copy of the 1958 Neo-Nazi classic The Lightning and the Sun. 

Worse and worse…

Upon entering, a woman who looked like a grizzled waitress from a black and white movie hit me up for a $40 admission fee (not mentioned in my invitation). 

More panhandling.

Virtually every time I use the word “Nazi” I’m using it as an insult. In the world of millennial white nationalism, there aren’t a ton of people who actually self-identify as Nazis. Despite usually agreeing with everything the Nazis did and believing the Holocaust is just “anti-white propaganda,” they always claim a technical reason for why they aren’t “National Socialists.” 

No, they’re “ethnonationalists” and “HBD race realists,” you see.

When not fighting for the white ethno-state, Dr. Johnson lives an extremely NPR lifestyle filled with world travel, visits to art galleries, and opera. 

As I’ve previously written, most of the “movement” leaders live better than do their donors.  Keep on sending the money!

People attend the forum to meet the visiting blue chip racists that Dr. Johnson flies in. Notable guests have included Identity Evropa founder Nathan Damigo and anti-semitic professor Kevin MacDonald. The forum I attended featured Jared Taylor, founder and editor of the online white nationalist magazine American Renaissance, fresh from his VICE interview with Eddie Huang. One of the world’s leading advocates for scientific racism…

HBD is not “scientific racism.”

Taylor is unique among white nationalists in that he believes East Asians to be objectively superior to whites. 

It’s interesting that an anti-racist infiltrator noticed something that Far Right activists get criticized for mentioning.

Speaking of Hitler, while at the bar getting coffee and Top Pot donuts, I noticed Seattle’s Hitler tea-pot guy, Charles Krafft…He has become a staple at Northwest Forum, known for holding before-parties at his house, which he rents from a Chinese-American landlord.

Don’t forget: that’s an objectively superior Chinese American landlord.

The only local voice for white separatism was the laughably uncharismatic Harold Covington of Northwest Front, who according to Krafft, asks people for money immediately upon meeting them. 

Now, that’s a genuine “movement” activist.  The new symbol of American White nationalism: a tin cup.

Enough mingling! It was time for the speeches on the second floor. Dr. Johnson announced that everything we were about to hear was totally off the record and not to be shared with anybody outside our circle of racists. Did this mean I would have to turn off the tape recorder that had been running in my backpack for the last 3 hours? Better not ask.

I mean, you just can’t make this stuff up.  By the way, all you donors are paying for this.

Speakers encouraged followers to take the Gandhi approach and continue getting punched in the face a la Richard Spencer. The media will have no choice but to turn to its side, their reasoning went. Taylor, Dr. Johnson, and the other speakers are all pretty married to this strategy.

That’s grand strategy on a world historical scale.

I was never more aware that I was dealing with Seattle racists than when it came time for questions and people were asking the same kind of self-righteous, rambling, statement-questions you encounter at Town Hall. One of the questions came from an East Indian-Canadian. 

Hey!  That’s an Indo-European Aryan.  Didn’t the good and great Savitri Davi marry one?  The Lightning and the Sun, indeed.

My interest picked up when Dr. Johnson, seated on a Masonic throne, announced that we would all be going to dinner at Buca di Beppo. When I called one of my emergency contact friends about the change of location she said, “Buca di Beppo? Do Nazis need to carbo load?”
He’d reserved two large tables and a smaller one for the duds. Showing up late, I got stuck at the dud table along with the Wise Old Man, a 91-year-old Holocaust denier who went to Hollywood back in 1952 for a songwriting career. When that didn’t work out, he started waving anti-Israel signs at the Oscars for the next 40 years. Krafft was really wowed by him, but nobody else cared.

Remember, dear reader, when your “leaders” pontificated about the need to eschew defectives?

“That movie Hidden Figures was bullshit,” a guy dressed like John Goodman in The Big Lebowski said out of nowhere. “We never went to the moon, Stanley Kubrick faked all of it.” 

And there you go: rampant freakishness, conspiracy theorizing, the flotsam and jetsam of an alienated society embraced.  All these Alt Right types like to compare their superior White Nationalism 2.0 to the old White Nationalism 1.0; I can tell them that their meetings today exhibit no better quality of attendees than the ones we were doing twenty years ago.

John Goodman then continued with a whole range of conspiracy theories from Waco, to the Bible, to how TV broadcasts were designed to give him anger issues.
Twenty minutes after we finished eating, it was time to go and the Wise Old Man looked around confused. “When is the food coming?” He can remember all kinds of Zionist conspiracies, but he can’t remember that he ate 15 minutes ago.

No comment.

At the time, I didn’t realize I wasn’t the only undercover reporter at Northwest Forum. 

A tipping point eventually will be reached: there will be more infiltrators at these meetings than genuine activists.

At the June forum they’d let in a much better looking, better funded, Antifa activist all the way from Sweden, equipped with James Bond-quality cameras and sound equipment.
…white nationalists who want to take over America but can’t screen out reporters…

And with that, we end analysis of this fiasco.

Der Movement marches on.  Remember dear reader: you are paying for this; you are supporting this.  In the last analysis it is your fault. You can end this nightmare overnight.  You choose not to do so.  

Enjoy.

In Der News: 11/3/17

News, news, news.

So, how’s that ethnonationalism working out for you?  Emphasis added:

Pro-Brexit leaders like Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan have hinted that after free movement from Europe is stopped, they want to open the doors to the world, and they don’t just mean in terms of trade. Politicians like these two seem to be very enthusiastic in promoting immigration from the former Colonies of the British Empire like India. The reason for this is that they believe, quite stupidly, that Britain has more in common with its former third world Colonies than the White countries of eastern Europe.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of mass migration, whether it is from White countries or non-white countries. The mass movement of people has always had negative effects and has always disproportionately impacted the working class. However, I am slightly perplexed by the hatred shown towards eastern European immigrants by normie-white British people, who also seem to show a rather laissez-faire attitude to their non-white neighbors.
I guess they simply are the clearest example yet of why civic nationalism is such a joke.
It would be ironic then, that if by freeing themselves from the European Union, British nationalists may actually succeed in making their own people’s demographic situation worse.

Yockey was right.  Narrow ethnonationlism is race treason; it’s treason to the West and our High Culture.

Hey, Roissy, how’s your God Emperor doing?

Outstanding comment:

It appears that the Trump administration has appointed antifa the national arbiter of who gets free speech on gov’t property and who does not.
NPI has had 4 or 5 successful conferences in the Reagan Building since its first there in 2011. I attended three. There has NEVER been ANY violence from NPI attendees. On several occasions there was violence outside the building by antifa, but it was contained.
Before each conference, antifa has threatened to disrupt the event. Even under Obama, the federal gov’t would not allow the threat of violence to shut down the NPI conference. Under Trump, that’s no longer the case.

Trump is President and Sessions is Attorney General, while Antifa runs wild in the streets with impunity, and Trump signs documents pledging to fight “dem raciss.”

But oh boy, he really knows how to “neg” folks, what an alpha he is!

The Far Right needs its own private property.

Spencer is correct about “Americana” here.

Vanguard movement?  Yes.  Nazi imagery?  No. A place for uniforms?  Yes.  Spencer has been making good sense recently; jettisoning Jorjani may have helped.  Addition by subtraction. Get rid of the jackassery as well.  “The European uniform” – yes. A flag?  What about the Legion Europa symbol – a Greek “L” and a runic “E?”   Er…Pepe?  Please, no. Overdoing the meme war…dear god yes.  Please stop it.

Transatlantic Pact Number Two

More (rare) mature Alt Right discussion.

Another good Transatlantic Pact podcast.

First, I note that Spencer sounds a lot better when he is on a more serious podcast like this, as opposed to the more American Alt Right Beavis-and-Butthead podcasts.  This supports my contention that Spencer would be much better off, and more influential, if he’d jettison the worst, most juvenile, aspects of the American Alt Right.

So, yes, let’s talk about the conditions of the Alt Right and the “optics”- “tough love” and “take your medicine.”  So, when is the Alt Right going to take seriously concerns of activists like myself? None of these guys want to engage with our ideas, with the previous generation of activists and the experiences those people have had and the wisdom (if I may use that word) accumulated from such (bitter) experiences.  Some of us could have warned you about Jorjani, for example, saving you a lot of time and trouble (and really bad optics).  Related to that, it would be helpful for the Far Right to have input from people with a genuine scientific background; in that way, perhaps you guys wouldn’t have been bamboozled by Jorjani’s ramblings, and you also wouldn’t get taken in by HBD pseudoscientific flim-flam.

On the positive side, in this podcast, Spencer makes an excellent defense of the general pan-European concept, and the need to eschew stupid, petty nationalism, as promoted by unhinged ethnonationalists.  So, I fundamentally support Spencer in the memetic struggle between Pan-Europeanism (a position I have been promoting for twenty years) and narrow ethnonationalism.

I’d like to point out that there is a difference between national socialism and “Nazism.”  The first is a political philosophy, a way of organizing society; the second is a historical manifestation of national socialism reflecting hyper-divisive German ethnonationalism.  True, many “movement” Nutzis really are Germanocentric Nazis, but’s let’s not confuse national socialism – which could be for the Poles as well as for the Germans or for any other Europeans – with Nazism.

Racial nationalists wanting to have conferences in Europe do need to rethink their strategies, agreed. I’m not sure how to proceed, not exactly knowing the situation on the ground in Europe, so I’m not going to give empty advice.  If I come up with any ideas in the future I’ll post it. 

The American government banning Andrew Joyce: that’s Donald J. Trump as the head of the government. Isn’t that ultimately true?

Spencer’s comments on Ramzpaul – agreed.  Spencer’s comments on swastika flags – agreed again.  “First, do no harm” – good sense. Racial activism needs to avoid both extremes of “purity spiraling” – agreed as well.  Vanguardism important – yes. Avoiding Manichean extremes, yes again. Avoiding past, expired memes – yes.

I’d like to make one minor point.  While swastika flags genuinely have nothing to do with America, uniforms and “Roman salutes” certainly do.  What about the Silver Shirts? What about the fact the military and para-military units throughout history – including American history – have always worn uniforms?  And I’ve been told by older relatives that schoolchildren used to salute the American flag with a “Roman salute” – and that this practice faded away during/after WWII (for obvious reasons).  So, I’ll agree that in public rallies, such salutes (for now) should be avoided, but there is nothing inherently wrong or “un-American” about the “Roman salute” – and there’s nothing wrong with such in private and, eventually, in public as well.

And how does one classify chants of “blood and soil?”  

And if one really wants to (1) be a revolutionary vanguard and (2) at the same time reaching out to Whites in general, perhaps you need to rethink the whole Beavis-and-Butthead White nationalism model, and also let the moronic “Pepe-Kek” nonsense fade away.