Category: behold the movement

Odds and Ends, 9/18/19

Odds and ends.

Listen to this Forney podcast about TRS.  Whatever you may think about Forney, he is doing an excellent job deconstructing the anti-White monstrosity known as Der Movement.  Keep it up, Mr. Forney. Shine a bright light on the roaches and make them scurry for cover.

The Quota Queens are at it again; it seems like they’re back obsessing over Princess Tulsi Coconut.  Has the Andy Eggroll enthusiasm waned so quickly?  Or is Princess Coconut only a place-holder until a future AOC Presidential candidacy?

This is a good Amren video.  I was amused though about Taylor talking about folks with “WASP reserve” not wanting to “rattle the tin cup” (a phrase familiar to readers of EGI Notes, I’m sure).  It’s interesting though that the folks who are not rattling the tin cup are not WASPs, while those who are so rattling, are.  Swarthoid reserve?

A response to the absurd Counter-Currents essay on Hubert Humphrey and Minnesota discussed here yesterday:

Don
Posted September 17, 2019 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
I don’t understand the point of this essay, which simply outlines the betrayal of WHITE people by WHITE LEADERS. I already knew this and so did everybody else.
Do we need WHITES in Minnesota?
Ah…..yes. That would be nice. But if they have such high IQ’s, why are they so committed to importing MUD people to replace them? WHITES have got to start wanting to be saved. If WHITES are willing to accept extermination, no amount of activism by us can save them. It’s that simple.
I don’t know.  Some folks believe we need more men like Hubert Humphrey; I believe we need more men like Corneliu Codreanu. This is a gulf that cannot be bridged, and essentially summarizes my unending hostility toward Der Movement.
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All Hail the Conquering Rescinder

In der news.

In my opinion, this changes nothing.

The hero must have realized he’d lose more through the hemorrhage of fan support than he’d gain by paying danegeld to the ADL.

He’s an immature jerk and anyone who thinks “using him” is going to benefit racial nationalism is a moron.

His initial willingness to pay is more important, and relevant to his character, than his rescinding the donation (and that, under pressure from fans).  Unless of course you’ll claim it is really “4-D chess” – if you believe that, I have a piece of Trump’s border wall I’d like to sell you.

Chutzpah Apparently Isn’t Only for Jews

The always wrong crowd marches on.

Gotta give Greg credit for chutzpah, quoting Lewis and all.

Any reviews from Hermansson?

To ensure the safety of all participants, we adhere to a strict vetting process for all first-time attendees.

Are you Swedish?  Want to give a speech at our meeting? On the dangers of infiltration!

This chutzpah is made somewhat less admirable by the realization that Johnson well knows that his affirmative action protections allow him to make horrendous error after horrendous error and get away with it.

Anyway, make a joke over your infiltrations.  And keep on laughing, rank-and-file; after all, the joke’s on you.

Speaking of errors – whatever you may think of Forney, he makes good points here.

This whole TRS incident underscores problems with the ”movement” – including the attitude, criticized here previously, of “you work with who you have.” No, No, NO.  The abysmally low quality of people in the “movement,” including “leaders,” is one major problem – the complete lack of judgment, the “handing the keys to the kingdom” to all sorts of questionable people, the laughable “extreme vetting” (are you Swedish?).  Forney is right here as well, “infiltrating the Alt Right is easy, because the Alt Right is run by retards.”  Bad judgment, no background checking – Forney is 100% spot-on correct here.

And the yeastbucket problem – all budding Joan of Arcs no doubt! – is underscored in that podcast as well.  As well as the obsession with “D’Nations” (including Forney himself, at the end) – that’s what it is all about, eh?

Well, I suppose these are all the “representatives of WN 3.0.”  The voices of WN 3.0!  Hail Victory! These guys are always, always wrong.

Basically, what you should do is whenever you hear “movement leaders” say something or write something – believe the opposite.

And keep this in mind – even IF Forney is 100% wrong here then that is still an indictment of Der Movement – more controversy, more dirty laundry, more freakishness, and more bad judgment from all sides.  ALL these guys are part of Der Movement – regardless of “whose side” you are on, someone here is wrong, someone here is lying, someone here is exhibiting piss-poor judgment.  It’s just a matter of which “movement” personality it is – whether it is one of “your guys” or one of “their guys.”  From my perspective, NONE of these guys are “my guys” – it is just an indictment of the whole scene, which is, and always has been, an unmitigated disaster.

WN 3.0!  WN 2.0!  WN 1.0! – My hobbit hole for WN!  Der Movement is a complete joke.  But, hey, keep on sending in those “D’Nations” and keep on buying dat dere “merchandise!”  The golden age exists today for those who give!  Free shipping!  

And, we know that when Forney criticizes certain people, they respond – “Hey, do you know what Forney does for a living?  He writes term papers for Asians!  He makes his living from White dispossession!”

I have three responses to that:

1. What Forney does for a living is not directly relevant to the truth or falsehood of his assertions.

2. If we want to give Forney a fair hearing, that does not mean we support him or take “his side” in these feuds.

3. What contributes more to “White dispossession” – writing term papers for Asians or being an inept “movement leader” who contributes to the downfall of White racial nationalism?

Remember when Johnson was so eager to “establish contact” with this “Pewdiepie?”

Wrong, wrong, they’re always wrong.

Of course, this Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg is Swedish.  So, not only are the Quota Queens always wrong, they are also always consistent. Hey, maybe Hermansson can help establish contact.  Mediation by HopeNotHate and the ADL optional.

What are the Chances?

Be honest.

Put aside all your hopes, what you want to happen, what you wish to happen. Imagine you have a powerful incentive to make the most accurate prediction possible.  Imagine that you must be absolutely, ruthlessly honest.

So, the issue here is – predict what the chances are for White racial nationalist victory.  What are the probabilities?  Choose from:

Zero – no chance of victory whatsoever; defeat and racial destruction is assured

Negligible – there is a theoretical chance of victory, it is greater than zero, but it is so small, it is like winning the lottery or being hit by lightning

Low – say up to 15%

Low to Moderate – 15-40%

Moderate – 40-60%

Moderate to High – 60-80%

High – 80-100%

Absolutely certain – 100% chance of victory, absolutely assured

For me, I’d say that if we stay on the current trajectory, and have Der Movement dominating racial activism, it is Negligible.  I will not say zero, because there is always a chance.

If a New Movement following my ideas arises that can effectively compete with Der Movement, perhaps we can move into the Low range. If this New Movement completely replaces Der Movement, and if things break our way, perhaps Low to Moderate. But, at this point, that’s it.  Even the most ludicrously optimistic evaluation, with EVERYTHING breaking our way, cannot pass Moderate.

And of all of the above, the scenario that is overwhelmingly most likely is the Negligible choice, the one in which Der Movement leads us to the grave.

Be honest.  Do this exercise yourself.

If you disagree with my pessimism, then, on your own blogs (if you have such), explain why – without falling into the Quota Queen dishonesty designed to maximize “D’Nations.”

The Dispossessed White Ethnics

Some accountability to balance the books.

Who was it who wrecked Europe and the entire White world?  Who wrecked the West? [Note – let’s not just blame “the Jews” now, shall we?]. Who was ultimately responsible, ethnically and nationally speaking, for the two World Wars that has put us all on the path to destruction?  What two European nations engaged in a selfish struggle between a rising land power and an established sea power, said struggle leading to the aforementioned wars?  Who is it who lurches from one extreme type of fanaticism to another, from extreme nationalism to extreme universalism, forcing the rest of Europe to go along for the ride?  Who was it who delegitimized racialism, nationalism, and fascism through their uncontrolled lunatic behavior?  Who tainted racialism with the label of genocide, tainted nationalism with the label of hegemonic war, and tainted fascism with the labels of hate, totalitarianism, and wanton destruction? Who refused to follow the cooperative path of the Montreux Conference, and instead had to go on their own way of bloodshed and military conquest (against other Europeans)?  That wasn’t Mussolini and Italy, or Codreanu and Romania. Choose again.  Who today opens the doors of Europe to the Third World?  Who has made the EU into a gulag for Europeans, for a vehicle for European dispossession?  Swarthoids?  Hunkies?  Other such “Outer Hajnal vermin?”  No, choose again, it wasn’t them.  Who was it in America who made common cause with Jews and Negroes for “civil rights” and “racial integration?” Who collaborated with Jews and Coloreds to wreck American cities?  

My critics will accuse me of some sort of animus (projection) or assert that I’m just as much as a divider as those I oppose, with the same sort of narrow ethnic agenda (albeit of a different specific kind). Not at all.  Long time readers of my blog are well aware that I am just as critical, if not more so, of the “ethnics,” even to the point of advocating elimination of fractions (~10-20%) of those populations in order to induce much needed eugenic improvement (of course, this can be achieved via sterilization of that population fraction, which is what practically should be done). However, one must speak the truth about EVERYONE, including Der Movement’s favorite ethnies; there needs to be counter-balance to Der Movement’s fossilized dogmas, to their rigid narratives. There has to be accountability, for a proper balancing of the books.

And dishonest hypocrisy has to be exposed. You have certain European types who blithely go about not only destroying their own nations, but do the same to those of others. And then, when some of these types wake up and become frustrated about the damage done (by their own people) to their nations, they blame others for the situation. It’s dem dere “unassimilable ethnics,” all those three foot tall “needle workers,” who are responsible for dispossessing Americans true majority!  It’s dem dere swarthoids who are endangering “Nordish” preservation!  You have folks whose ability to wreck nations and civilizations rival that of the Jews (although, unlike the Jews, these people also wreck themselves), but they project their frustrations outward and they never accept responsibility for what they have done and are still doing.

I am particularly bemused by the Type Is who leave comments on racialist blogs concerning American White ethnics asserting that – “they have to go back.”  Really?  Go back where? To the nations you destroyed, and are still destroying? You have dreadlocked German whores forcibly invading Italian territory to dump off African migrants. So the American wops should go back where?  Norwegians sail the Mediterranean desperately looking for any Afro-Asiatics they can “rescue” and dump into Southern Europe. The swarthoids should go back where?  Richard Gere can’t wait to aid the invasion of other people’s nations.  Go back where?  Mama Merkel’s pronouncements not only invite the invasion of her own nation but those of the Southern half of Europe. Go back where?  Hey, if you say “they all have to go back,” then maybe you should leave them nations to go back to, instead of actively and avidly wrecking those nations like you’ve wrecked everything else.

9/5/19: In Der News

More “movement” nonsense.

The map, which was displayed on a posterboard, appeared to have been altered with a marker, extending the storm’s path to include Alabama.

He’s a man of genuine greatness!

Everything Zman writes here concerning dissidents against the System equally applies to dissidents against Der Movement.

One problem with Zman’s essay is that, as a whole, it implies that harsh criticism of the majority is reflective of an embittered (crazy and bitter!) dispossessed attitude, rather than a dissident attitude.  This is hair-splitting.  Was Solzhenitsyn wrong to harshly criticize the Soviet system?  Was he less a dissident for doing so? Or was he rightfully dispossessed from the traditional Russia by communism?  Can one be both dissident and dispossessed?  After all, Der Movement literally worships a book entitled The Dispossessed Majority – so….

In any case, I urge others to join me in creating independent centers of thought outside “movement” dogma.  As the Quota Queens spout their fossilized screeds while dancing through cemeteries in their swastika-soled boots, we real dissidents will formulate fresh perspectives on racial nationalism.

Ethnonationalism marches on.  So much winning!  It’s interesting how there’s a common thread in the bad judgment on the Right, internationally speaking.  In America, it’s the Type I Quota Queens; in Italy, it is the bombastic, loud-mouthed Type I ethnonationalist Northern Italian (Celto-Germanic Nordic!) hero beloved of the American ethnonationalist crowd. Failure after failure after failure.

Sure! “Elites” will be generated from, and support, a bunch of semi-retardates whose only consistency is utter failure, whose bright ideas include buying $50,000 worth of swastika-soled boots from China, and whose activism includes chugging gallons of milk while screaming “Kek.”  Who wouldn’t want to buy into that?

Quo Vadis pan-Europeanism?

Whither pan-Europeanism?

Anyone else notice that Amren is really pushing the work of McCulloch recently?  Once again Sallis is proven correct, as I predicted that the HBD-Nordicist alliance, with Jewish/Asian interests in the background, will always attempt to divide Europeans against each other. Der Movement is tiresomely predictable, and the HBDers most of all.

Comment from the threads:

Miss Annie  

Southern and Eastern Europeans are admixed with Asian and Arab blood due to wars and invasions during the Middle Ages onward. For example, Spain and Portugal were conquered by Muslims in the eight century. It took eight centuries to get rid of the Muslims, but they still left their legacy in its inhabitants which, in turn, slowed the country’s economic growth as well scientific and literary progress.

Evidence of Siberian/East Asian admixture in Northern Europe – which even the radically hardcore Nordicist Durocher now admits exists (although he claims it is “beneficial” to all humanity) – is of course excluded from such screeds.  

Note to White ethnics – leave Der Movement ASAP.  

Now, let’s look at input on this matter from everyone’s favorite dishonest commentator Silver: 

For some people, the racial and cultural differences become too significant to paper over as one moves from northwest Europe to southeast Europe. Although pan-European ideals hold some degree of personal appeal for me, I think it’s terribly unrealistic to expect most people to ever share them. Pan-Slavism had more going for it than pan-Europeanism, but even that never really got off the ground.

Slav is technically not a racial term, but I am not opposed to its use in this way. There is less racial variation among the people encompassed by the linguistic term Slav than there is in the racial term ‘white’, after all.

I have the impression that people tend to run away from Slav as a racial identifier in a bid to avoid association with the sorts of things that WNs have historically regarded as backward or inferior in Slavic cultures. This is especially so if they are coming at WN from a national socialist angle.

Despite the numerous factors in its favor, pan-Slavism would, I agree, have served as little more than a vehicle for the promotion of Russian interests, simply given the sheer weight of numbers on the Russian side.

It’s easy enough to proclaim European unity, especially in internet comments, but achieving actual unity in real world activism is rather more difficult.

A racial movement is not like other movements, in which membership is determined by the views a person claims to hold. Membership is decided by visual identification. No amount of pleading will ever persuade some people to accept those they visually identify as too racially divergent, nor do constant reassurances do much to assuage the doubts of those whose inclusion is questioned.

The history of racial activism has amply demonstrated, I think, that any real world get-together will always be infected by such hardliners who will invariably express their views and question other people’s inclusion, leading to bickering and self-doubt – at which point any presumed ‘unity’ goes out the window.

The only way I can see for a racial movement to surmount this problem is market itself as a cultural movement – to promote a European cultural identity – and trust that, essentially, only whites will ever really be attracted to it. Misgivings about visual identifications would not then be the barrier to unity they are in a strictly racial movement. The very racial hardliners that make unity so difficult in a racial movement would also likely self-select out of a cultural movement, which would also ease the way to unity.

If you knew nothing about Silver’s past history, these comments would seem somewhat reasonable, even though we may disagree with the recommendations he makes. Unfortunately for him, some of us have long memories, and statements from him like “Although pan-European ideals hold some degree of personal appeal for me…” rank among the most dishonest in the history of the Internet.  Silver has been a bitter enemy of pan-Europeanism for the past dozen years, and has been mocking, attacking, and deconstructing pan-Europeanism, often in the most mendacious and or infantile fashion, ever since he started infesting the Majority Rights comments threads in the mid-2000s.

Regarding his contention that “Membership is decided by visual identification…” that may hold for the McCulloch faction, but many – most? – people in Der Movement go by ancestry.  For example, most people in Der Movement would reject a “Nordish” Jew, but accept a darker, swart cockney “Paleo-Atlantid” Englishman.

With respect to the main point that White unity in Der Movement will always be undermined by Nordicist hardliners who reject and exclude other Whites and by the reaction of those other Whites to that exclusion, I agree. My brief period of thinking that compromise was possible was wrong-headed delusion on my part; I can admit when I have been wrong, and I was wrong in that case.  If that makes some question my judgment, so be it.  Unlike Greg Johnson and the other Quota Queens, I’m not going to hide my errors in an attempt to safeguard others’ opinions of me.

Silver’s recommendations are flawed.  Cultural nationalism does not solve the race problem to everyone’s satisfaction; even if it are mostly Whites who are attracted to it, it still leaves the door open for mass “cultural conversion” and assimilation, attacking the foundations of racial preservationism. One solution, and that which I have advocated, is adding (not replacing) cultural factors to racial ones, instead of replacing race with culture, or vice versa – thus merging the Salterian and Yockeyian viewpoints (note I use Salterian not McCullochian – ancestry not phenotype).

Pan-Slavism has been, as Silver admits, a failure and a vehicle for Russian domination. Further, it can exhibit the same problems as pan-Europeanism. One can imagine neo-Nordicist North Slav types, such as the Polako and Raciology specimens, attacking “racially admixed” South Slavs and making a distinction between “True Slavs” (Poles, Russians) and “False Slavs” (Serbians, Bulgarians). Same problem, smaller scale.

Personally, I’m a pessimist, and believe that Der Movement has already ruined a viable chance at victory.  But, we can still try. What I advocate is that the small minority of activists who are pan-Europeanists (true ones, not Nordicists trying to expand their “D’Nations” base) cut loose from Der Movement and go their own way.

Pan-Europeanists should have their own groups, groupuscules, blogs, websites, organizations, meetings, etc.  They should build a New MovementThey should be hardliners themselves – absolutely eschewing, excluding, and rejecting all Nordicists, fetishists, HBDers and other dividers.  Now, there are possible problems here.  There are so few true pan-Europeanists that there may not be a critical mass for success.  From experience, I know that Nordicists and others of similar ilk will always try to weasel their way into pan-European groups, to subvert the mission and undermine activities. Conversely, there will be pan-Europeanists who will impatiently attempt to expand their influence by accepting these other types or at least by making “alliances” with them. These dangers will exist.  But if Type II pan-Europeanists can perform better than the Type I Nutzis dancing through cemeteries with their swastika-soled boots, then they can  provide an attractive, viable alternative to the failed “movement” and to the hardline dividers to whom Silver refers. A more successful and sane movement can attract high quality people, establishing a positive feedback loop of steady and sound growth, while leaving the failed “movement” to degenerate under the weight of its own failures and insanity.

Do I think this will occur?  No. I think the swastika-soled boots crowd will dance off into the sunset, tripping over a tombstone, hurdling headlong into the grave. The majority of rank-and-file activists – including many who call themselves pan-European – are slavishly addicted to Der Movement and will not break ranks with it until it is too late to do any good.

We’re very likely doomed.  You can’t say I haven’t warned you.  You can’t say that I haven’t been (constantly) offering you an alternative.  It’s been your choice to (constantly) reject that alternative.


I’d like to make one more important point.  If pan-Europeanism is so crazy and unrealistic, then why is that that you have Nordicists – Pierce and Duke being two prominent examples – who always seem to find it necessary to pretend to be pan-European?  I alluded to one possible reason above, the desire to maximize followers and followers’ donations. But I see three more fundamental reasons for this.  

First, although authentic pan-Europeanists are relatively few, they have an influence out of proportion to their numbers.  Consider Yockey – you have the hardcore ethnonationalists of Counter-Currents always promoting Yockey and his work, and the Nordicist National Alliance is now selling Yockey’s masterpiece Imperium. And all these types have not hesitated to make use of my own work in the past.  Second, although there is a significant and very loud hardline Nordicist faction as well as Nordicist-oriented rank-and-file activists, there is also a significant, more “silent,” fraction of activists who are at least vaguely sympathetic to pan-Europeanism, and who would be a mobilizable force with better (and more genuine) leadership.  Third, the White masses already think excluding even the Jews is nutty; thus, excluding Southern and Eastern Europeans would strike many of them as completely unhinged. Many of the things that are acceptable within Der Movement’s “amen corner” would not “fly” in the broader society. I understand the difference between descriptive and prescriptive, but if the prescriptive is derived from the counter-productive obsessions of a particular hardline faction, then perhaps the prescription needs to be re-thought.

Therefore, perhaps the problem is not with pan-Europeanism, but instead derived from the fact that the American “movement” had its genesis in Nordicism and Anglocentrism, amplified by the obsessions with Hitler and Nazi race doctrine, and so these paradigms are too deeply embedded within the Old Movement to be effectively opposed from within. The same holds for Old Movement dogma outside America, with Anglocentrism being of course prominent in the Anglosphere “movement,” and Hitlerian thought being prominent among activists in “Germanic” Europe.  However, that all applies specifically to Der Movement – the Old Movement – not to society at large, and not to the nucleus of activists who could, under the right circumstances, initiate the development of a New Movement.

But, again, I’m pessimistic.