The MSM has been in SHOCK! HORROR! mode over the news that one Patrik Hermansson, purporting to be graduate student Erik Hellberg (as if anyone could tell the difference!)…
The “movement” obviously could not.
…infiltrated and—arguably illegally and unethically—surreptitiously recorded a number of right wing organizations (he fashionably says “Alt Right” although they mostly predate the term) in Europe and the U.S. e.g. Undercover With the Alt-Right, by Jesse Singal, New York Times, September 19, 2017.
Counter-Currents‘ Editor-in-Chief Greg Johnson, a victim, has a characteristically sensible discussion here.
If by “characteristically sensible” you mean minimizing the outrageous incompetence of “leaders” letting an infiltrator joyride through the “movement” for a year, sitting with “leaders” to “vet” genuine activists, and giving “keynote addresses” about “anti-fascist infiltrators” (I still can’t get over that one), and then hysterically “banning” people who call for accountability, yes indeed, very sensible.
The bottom line: Hermansson/ Hellberg’s “revelations,” although written up in hyperventilating British tabloid style on Hope Not Hate, the Cultural Marxist Enforcer website that sponsored him, contain no evidence or even allegations of any illegal behavior, let alone any conspiracy to commit violence.
That’s not the point is it, you mendacious handout artist? The point is that a nobody, an infiltrator with a flimsy cover story, was able to worm his way into the highest levels of “movement” discourse and decision making, simply because (1) he’s a Swedish Nord, and (2) he’s an effeminate homosexual. What happens in the future, when an infiltrator is sitting at the highest “movement” councils in a time of crisis? Or this: how do we know that there isn’t another infiltrator like Hermansson already there?
All Hermansson/ Hellberg seems to have, at most, is Politically Incorrect talk—from people already associated with Politically Incorrect websites!
No, all he has is exposing a bunch of clowns with their red rubber noses and makeup on.
He claims “sometimes being a mole in the far right was dangerous….” But he (and his rewrite man, who tried very hard) provide absolutely no support for this.
Big deal. The Hope Not Hate donors, who reportedly supported him for a year, must be very disappointed.
No, they are getting a big laugh over it all, I’m sure. But in the last analysis, they could have done us all a big favor by exposing the affirmative action racket in the “movement” for what it is. I say “could have” because I know the mental weaklings among the “movement “rank-and-file don’t have it in them to abandon failed “leadership.”
VDARE.com and I make a number of minor appearances on Hope Not Hate (here and here), but it’s just Search Engine Smear stuff.
Which is mildly interesting, because Hermansson/ Hellberg did contact me and Lydia and I met with him for coffee in Cipriani Dolci above New York’s Grand Central Station.
And the other shoe drops. Quota queen Brimelow fell for the same scam as his affirmative action colleagues.
(Note to Hope Not Hate bookkeeper: I paid!)
In other words: VDARE donors likely ultimately paid for it.
I guess I agree with Greg Johnson’s summary: “A bit socially awkward, a bit inarticulate, a bit effeminate, but not so outside the norm for academic types that I felt suspicious.” (Hope Not Hate says proudly that Hermansson/ Hellberg is a “gay, anti-racist activist”).
Two important points. First, the more I hear about Hermansson’s “effeminacy,” the more I think that Andrew Joyce is correct in his criticisms of gays in the “movement.” If the Far Right was less tolerant of homosexuals, then Hermansson’s behavior would have been a more obvious red flag (alternatively, Hope Not Hate would just have had to dig up an attractive young blonde women to do the job, recording conversations while fending off groping and dodging marriage proposals). Second, if Hermansson was so awkward and inarticulate, how did he end up being invited by Johnson to address a private Counter-Currents meeting? How did he end up with the London Forum “leaders,” helping with meeting vetting? Don’t these guys understand that the more they mock Hermansson as part of their “spin,” the worse they make themselves look for trusting Hermansson and elevating him? Are these guys really that clueless? So lacking in self-awareness? Apparently so.
But I must also say that Hermansson/ Hellberg never said he was anything other than a graduate student, frankly asked if he could record me (Lydia got bored and left)…
That’s surprising. I would have expected she would have a high threshold for boredom.
…and never evinced anything other than academic interest in the movement.
Maybe that’s why his rewrite man couldn’t figure out how to smear us.
No need. You smear yourselves, first by incompetence, and then by your pathetic “spin” to try and cover up the incompetence.
So why did Hermansson/ Hellberg (and/or his rewrite man) not realize they were undercutting the Left/ MSM Narrative? Because these Leftists are idiots.
If they are idiots, then what about the Rightists so easily fooled for a year?
They live in an intellectual bubble and they believe their own propaganda.
Is Brimelow talking about “movement” activists here? Or just deluded VDARE donors?
At least, the Hope Not Hate rewrite man does. But after we met, Hermansson/ Hellberg (email him) replied to my polite note:
Thank you yourself! It was really great talking to you.
Since I left I’ve actually looked into applying for universities in the US so I’m right now looking at Georgetown in DC and possibly NY as well. It’s my supervisor who pushed me to look into a phd or a research position.
Hey, Pete: did you – or any of the “characteristically sensible” members of the “good old boys network” – ever bother to check “Hellberg’s” academic bonafides? Maybe contact his “supervisor” directly to say what a fine job he’s been doing (by supervisor I mean the alleged academic supervisor, not Hope Not Hope staff). You know, as part of the “extreme vetting” and all. The Alt Right could have done that after drinking mead, reciting poems in Old Norse, and blowing on a Viking horn (and on anything else for that matter).
My intuition: Hermansson/ Hellberg actually is a graduate student. He really does hope to study in the U.S. (Note to VDARE.com readers: watch out!).
My intuition: Brimelow/Mophead actually is a panhandling, empty suit, quota queen. He really does hope to continue to exploit readers to contribute to keep Happy Penguins LLC’s coffers full, so he can continue living that fine blue state lifestyle.
He’s just ripping off Hope Not Hate as well as the AltRight.
Are we talking about Hermansson here, or the editor of an “immigration restrictionist” website?
All joking inside, this is a serious matter. What we likely have is a coordinated effort by an Alt Right-Alt Wrong alliance of affirmative action hacks to minimize the travesty that took place, distract their supporters from utter incompetence, and to get back to “business as usual” as quickly as possible, ensuring a steady stream of donation money.
Frankly, it’s more disgusting than comical. And our EGI goes down the toilet due to failed leadership. So much for adaptive fitness.