Category: Counter Currents

I’m an Indigenous Swarthoid

A riposte.  Red font emphasis added.

This is what the “movement’s” fetish with “racial purity” has given us.

I warned all of you fetishists:

The concept of (absolute) racial purity was originally a racialist meme, one which had particular relevance in the New World environment of the intermingling of highly distinct racial groups (European, Amerindian, and Negro), Negro slavery, and fears of miscegenation. However, today, in the age of genetics, racial purity has become an “anti-racist” concept, a meme of the anti-White Left, a weapon to be wielded against the concept of racial preservation. The leftist argument goes like this:

Premise 1: The reality of race and the legitimacy of racial preservation depends upon absolute racial purity.

Premise 2: Absolute racial purity does not exist (as scientific studies tell us).

Conclusion: Therefore, there is no such thing as race, and racial preservation is illegitimate and irrelevant.

So, this is a logical argument that comes to a false conclusion because of a faulty premise: Premise 1. Premise 2 is however correct. Genetic studies tell us that groups heretofore thought “pure” are likely the result of ancient mixes of other groups.

But, hey, don’t listen to me. Instead follow the great and good Durocher and Ash Donaldson. Victory awaits!

It is also funny how “there is no such thing as indigenous peoples” applies to Europeans, but not to, say, Amerindians or Australian Aboriginals. Curious, that.

 “There’s no such thing as a Dane or a Swede or a German.” 

Hmmm, how about: “There’s no such thing as a Jew or a Nigerian or a Chinamen.” Mr. Netanyahu, tear down that wall!  Nigeria, hand over your land to Bushmen and Hottentots!  China, hand over your territory to all who wish to invade; after all, your national existence is an illusion!

I have, of course, dealt with the question of “what is indigenous?”  See here.

A simple one sentence definition: A group is indigenous when it is the oldest extant group inhabiting a territory in which the group underwent ethnogenesis.

Of course such groups are not “pure” – why should they be?  And why should fast talking Jews and their Goyishe kop puppet liars stop the analysis at “Africans and Russians?” Why not Homo erectus?  Why not self-replicating RNA molecules floating around in the primordial soup?

And by the way, you stupid bastard, ancient steppe peoples were not genetically equivalent to modern Russians.  They were not “Russian” any more than a Cro-Magnon from Provence was “French.”

In my case, I’m an indigenous swarthoid and damn proud of it!  Skin darker than a Nigerian and nostrils wider than an Angolan!

Derb the racial hypocrite.

Twenty years ago, my mother was bedridden and near death. It was one of the last times I was with her, perhaps the very last time—I’m not sure. She was drifting in and out of awareness, sometimes just saying things out loud—random things, clear and coherent but not connected to each other.

So I was sitting there by the bed and heard her say: “I don’t mind dying. At least I knew England when she was England.”

Yeah, Derb, if your mother was still alive, would she see England in the faces of her grandchildren?

Trump will monitor the situation!

There is no truth to the rumor that Greg Johnson, being taller than Richard Spencer, scorns Spencer as an incompetent manlet.  No truth at all!  But, hey, focusing on a bagel dwarf and “incels” helps distract from things like this.  At this point, I think these guys are just trolling us. They can’t still be serious about racialism, can they? I mean, it’s a joke, right?

Yet, Taylor can’t be there because he’s banned from the EU.  The whole thing is curious.

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The Wile E Coyote Theory of Racial Admixture in Europe

No line drawn on the European continent.

The most striking finding is a clear signal of admixture into northern Europe, with one ancestral population related to present-day Basques and Sardinians and the other related to present-day populations of northeast Asia and the Americas.

Me Chinese, me make joke, me draw runes on my can of coke.

Some more.  Less in the Northwest than the Northeast, but there’s still some.

Now, no doubt there’s going to be a bit more non-European admixture – and here I refer to real admixture, not artefactual admixture resulting from limited choices of parental populations in ancestry testing – in the South and East of Europe than in the more isolated Northwest of Europe.  But it is a matter of degree (and of kind), not of a binary yes/no.

The fetishists envision racial admixture in Europe sort of like Wile E Coyote painting a line on a road. They imagine some sort of magical, mysterious line drawn through the European continent, so that on one side of the line you have absolute racial purity going back through the mists of time, and on the other side, the populations are all heavily-mixed cringing colored subhumans. However, racial and genetic reality doesn’t work that way. There are qualitative and quantitative differences in admixture, but not absolutes of zero vs. large. It’s relatively low throughout Europe, with a bit more in some areas, and of different types.

Particularly this – if for no other reason – demonstrates the impossibility of absolute purity.  And there are other reasons – various influxes shown by population genetics – that result in low levels of real admixture.  But this is not all found on only one side of Wile E Coyote’s line.

 

That devil Forrest!  Read this. 

At a Chinese Labor Convention held in Memphis, Tennessee in 1869, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest pledged $5000 to bring in 1,000 Chinese workers.

An HBDer? Or maybe he was a Silker – he wanted some black-booted Chinese girls with guns guarding the borders of his plantation.

Or maybe he thought they were relatives, who knows?  Ethnic nepotism!

No, no, a thousand times no!  Too many carbs there!  Eat instead dem dere Big Macs and bacon-wrapped beefsteaks, washed down by gallons of full-fat milk!  What’s a little bariatric surgery and Da Vinci prostate surgery between friends?

 

The South Asian-Hispanic alliance.  Brown is a brown does.

Remember the EGI Notes paradigm: The existential meaning of Asians is hatred of Whites and of the West.  Would Sallis ever steer you wrong?  

Race and Movement News, 7/13/19

In der news.

Another good Taylor video. I had to laugh about the “warpath” part.

Excerpts from another “emotional nerve” comment left at the HBD “West Coast White nationalist” Counter-Currents site,  emphasis added:

The problem is, aside from cattiness, that they always feel the need to bring up Greeks (ancient only, for they know not a thing about any other era, and really, they know very little of even the ancient ones), Italians (they are ESPECIALLY and GLEEFULLY brutal to Italians), Spaniards/Portuguese, etc. Why not just leave it out and just STFU about them? You cannot prove your point with repeating lies about meds (or slavs)???? Really, you can’t?

“……….Pan-Europeanism is our only way out.”

It can’t work BECAUSE of this BS.

@Ash
“I seem to have struck an emotional nerve with you and a few others.”

Typical response really. When a repeater of nordypoo nonsense is called out, always surprised that meds dare to take their own side in a fight, there is talk of “emotion.” But my dear, dear Ash, there was no need to repeat that lie. The whole post could’ve been done without that usual, tired, jealous jab. I understand that nordies feel put upon and cowed by non-whites and anti-white propaganda; but they always try to pump themselves up by ripping on meds and slavs, who played no part in that propaganda, do not attack nordies at all and are not anti-nordy….so WTF?????? Such catty swipes seem to be currency in these circles.

I agree with all of that, and it is good some folks have answered the original inane post. Certainly, the fetishists have a particular sweaty animus toward (Southern) Italians – to them, several rungs below Negroes and Australian Aboriginals on the racial scale.  And the indirect allusion to Sallis’ Law is always correct – Der Movement will always bring up their attacks against Southern (and Eastern) Europeans regardless of the context. If “Ash Donaldson” wrote an article about the weather, or the price of milk, or the design attributes of the Atlas ICBM, or whatever…there would have to be the obligatory mention of admixture in Southern (and/or Eastern) Europe. What self-respecting “movement” post would be without it?

And I agree, pan-Europeanism is not going to work as long as there are people who openly lie about racial history and population genetics to fuel their obsessive dogma, which they proselytize with all the fervor of a crazed priest of the Spanish Inquisition or a modern-day cultist.

We’ve certainly come a long way since the days of Larry Scott, eh?

Di, Di, Di…versiteeee…..

We’ve certainly come a long way since the days of Christy Mathewson, eh?

Di, Di, Di…versiteeee…

Another Fundamentally Dishonest Fetishist

Just like Kemp.

The ignoramus who wrote that Counter-Currents article tries to defend himself by writing:

I seem to have struck an emotional nerve with you and a few others. It’s certainly the first time I’ve been accused of being a Nordicist; usually, it’s a Hellenophile.

Ah yes, but to this fundamentally dishonest dissembler, the Hellenes were Nordics; Dolph Lundgren philosophizing at the Agora. So, in his case, being a Hellenophile and being a Nordicist are functionally equivalent.  Well lied, liar!

This “I’m not a Nordicist” whine from extreme Nordicists is familiar to anyone remembering all the dust-ups over March of the Titans during the first decade of this century.  If I recall correctly, Kemp – who is considered one of the most extreme Nordicists in recent memory and is always cited by and defended by other extreme Nordicists – would deny his ideology by making comments like “But I say that Mediterraneans contributed to White history.”

What Kemp left out, of course, is that his opinion was of a relatively minor Mediterranean contribution (after all, Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome were all Nordic), and that this modest contribution was all ancient, since he proclaimed that the “Mediterranean Race” no longer existed, being mongrelized out of existence, with many Southern Europeans being, essentially, cringing non-White untermenschen.  But he’s no Nordicist, no sir!

I also like how the Counter-Currents fetishist pulls a “Durocher” on us to imply that critics of his “truth” are motivated by emotion. Unlike him, who is, of course, motivated only by a non-emotional devotion to facts! Yes, indeed, and that’s why these truth tellers mysteriously ignore all of the ancient DNA findings that refute their beliefs, and also ignore population genetics studies that describe Siberian/East Asian admixture in their favorite parts of Europe.

Who has had an “emotional nerve” “struck,” I wonder?  Those who lie by commission and omission, or those who merely point out the lies for all to see?

Another Answer to Retardation

He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do.

As regards this issue, see the comment below. I don’t agree with every detail, but the main thrust is generally in accord with my views, and the points to which I agree with most are highlighted. I am not correcting the various errors of writing or formatting; those are minor issues of no great relevance to the main themes of the comment.

GrandioseNationalist
Posted July 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Another Nordicist who tries to “preach” us about history. This thing never ends; always trying to find artificial excuses to undermine Southern European contribution to Europe and further divide Europeans based on some outdated ideology. There’s a reason why the Star Systems and planets have Greek and Roman names and not Norse ones. See now how we’ve engaged in this fruitless debate that only serves our demise?
Furthermore all White Nationalists have to keep in mind a few things:
a) It’s not Greeks that have Turkish DNA but instead it’s the Turks that have Greek ancestry (along with other ethnic backgrounds). There is virtually no research or proof that shows that Greeks have Turkic ancestry. All racially mixed offsprings were either absorbed into the Turkish society or the Christian Orthodox women would commit suicide or murdered and shunned by their families before having kids with the “Muslim Oppressor”.
b) The Ancient Greeks had this ancient motto knows as “pas mi Hellen varvaros” which means “all non-Hellenes are barbarians”. Although there were some exception among the lines of the Persian, Celtic, and Roman kindred, Greeks shared an equal hatred even for each other (Spartans vs Athenians, etc.). Alexander was no exception, as the man who civilized the East.
c) Nordicist ideology has contaminated our tenets for more than a century and has only served to divide and conquer us, by placing basis on an abstract sub-racial division. There are Nordics common in all European nations just as there are Meds in Britain and Ireland.

c) Although not directly related to this article, it is vital to acknowledge that Pan-Europeanism is our only way out. When the Southern States, Southern And Northern Europe get overrun by migrants we ‘re gonna have to unite in a way that has never been done before. The US showed that White intermixia and nationhood is perfectly feasible and desirable if we proceed carefully step by step to that direction (that has already been happening for centuries now; look at us for example). It sure as hell didn’t lead to chaos and anarchy as some Ethnonationalists would wish. Now I’m saying this as someone who is of pure ethnic stock and has reached to that conclusion after lots of consideration and the studying of history.

The SYSTEM doesn’t give a penny or two about whether you’re Anglo-Celtic, Greek, Nordic, or what. All they see is a White person, and they attack our Whiteness because that’s the essence of our identity.

NATIONALISM is evolutionary: it extends for the POLIS to the REGION to the COUNTRY and eventually to the WHOLE RACE. By simply making a regression to these patterns would mean to be forced to repeat this endless loop of factricidal war and foreign infiltration. The Athenians would’ve objected to be united with the Spartans under the “generic definition” of the Greek, and they’d want to keep their “individual differences and have their separate ways”. Now that Greece is united, do you see any war between the two? Now they’re just Greeks and nothing else.

In less then two centuries time we’ll see the salvation of the White Race come to fruition under a life-saving fusion of all those who are Called Europeans akin to that in the US; under a centralized transcontinental state . Think on that.

The major problem with this well-meaning fellow is that he is wasting his time. He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do; he’ll get more of a useful response if he was addressing a pile of bricks.

It doesn’t matter that there is no evidence supporting the Counter-Currents viewpoint, it doesn’t matter that ancient DNA studies have so far refuted Kemp, none of that matters. When you are dealing with blind religious faith, facts do not matter and logic does not matter.  There is no place in Der Movement for pan-Europeanists, just as there is no place for Southern and Eastern Europeans. The Type Is have always had a stranglehold on control of the American “movement” and they will continue to hold on; if you want change, you’ll have to do it yourself by contributing to the formation of a new, alternative racial nationalist structure, a Type II-led movement.

I want to comment on this picture, much beloved by Nordicists. By modern phenotypic standards, we may say, subjectively, that Terentius Nero had an atypical phenotype. Very well.  So what?  That’s not evidence supporting that he was not of indigenous stock.  We do not know the range of indigenous phenotypes of ancient Italy.  For all we know, Nero’s phenotype  may have been common, at least among those of plebian stock, and may reflect Neolithic farmer ancestry. On the other hand, maybe he did have non-indigenous ancestry. Can you know any of that by looking at that one picture?  It’s not as if he looked like a Negro, a Chinaman, or David “Chopsticks” Bromstad, for example.

If you want to play the (frankly stupid) game of using single pictures to make snap judgments about an entire ethny, nation, people, or race, then what about this?  The ancient peoples of Italy were brown-skinned with black curly hair! Terentius the Etruscan!

This is the young Benito Mussolini, a representative of a people – Northern Italians – that Der Movement likes to tell us (absurdly) are “Celto-Germanic Nordics.” Judging by that picture, the typical Northern Italian male looks like the younger brother of General Mapache from The Wild Bunch.

By the standards of “one picture to judge a people,” I won’t get into what the Bromstad family, or Bjork, may tell us about Northern Germanics.

Meanwhile, on a completely different (of course!) matter, I’m working on a post or posts in which I am going to admit that Sallis was wrong about an issue concerning the “movement,” in contrast to certain academic types who were right.  Stay tuned!

Counter-Currents Goes Full Retard

The Counter-Currents threat.

Absolute Nordicist crap coming from the HBD “West Coast White nationalism” Counter-Currents blog.

Today, less than half of Greek Y-chromosomes are of European origin…

Imbecilic.  Whose definition of “European Y chromosomes” are you using? 

See here.  Let me guess – NRY found at high levels in Northern Europe are “European.” Those found at higher levels in Southern Europe are – of course! – “non-European.”  In fact, note that while there are differing frequencies, on a qualitative level there is overlap between the major types between North and South.

The cities St. Paul visited in his missionary travels and to which he wrote – Corinth, Thessalonica, and Athens – were no more necessarily Greek than New York City is Dutch because Dutchmen lived there three hundred years ago.

The Kempian argument.  Unfortunately, population genetics doesn’t agree, as the ancient Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically most similar to modern Southern Europeans, including modern Greeks, with a major difference being that modern Greeks have some degree of Slavic admixture.

And then:

The results of mass immigration and racial intermarriage can be seen in portraits that survived the destruction of the Italian resort-town of Pompeii in the first century AD. By that time, Roman women were dying their hair blonde and using lead acetate to make their skin whiter, in an effort to mimic the appearance of the original Romans and the few surviving noble families. Regardless of what the citizenship rolls said at any given time, centuries of population transfer had made true Romans so rare as to be statistically insignificant.

In response, see this.  We have to await the official publication, but I doubt it’ll match Nordicist expectations. By the way, ancient Etruscan phenotypes represented at that time as shown here.

Counter-Currents is openly lying to you  

Counter-Currents is peddling the same rancid “movement” dogma, which is being disproved by science, and that has no historical validity whatsoever.

It is obvious that Counter-Currents is becoming a nexus of the worst aspects of the “movement” – sweaty ethnic fetishism, tin cup panhandling, homosexual apologia, and backwards “traditionalism.” The destructive nature of the Counter-Currents infestation of racial activism is going to have to be a focus of the EGI Notes agenda.  We’ll need to take a closer look at this den of grifters, HBD traitors, fetishists, and perverts.

July 10, 2019 in Der News

In der news.

This is Counter-Currents:

Nicholas R. Jeelvy
Posted July 9, 2019 at 7:45 am | Permalink
2001: Space Odyssey is like watching paint dry, but the paint is in love with the smell of its own farts.

Erudition for only the highest of the high-IQ “movement” crowd.

We’re not “all the same.”

Racially mixed Amren commentators assert that racial tension occurs only between groups with different average IQs (always IQ with the HBD/race realist crowd).  That is of course obviously false. See this.  Racially similar East Asian groups, with similar IQs, exhibit tension when brought into proximity, particularly when in the homeland of one of them. Radically different mental traits and abilities can exacerbate tensions, but the tensions exist because of overall racial and ethnic difference, not merely because of IQ. People do not like to be replaced by others, and higher IQ replacers can even be worse as they are more dangerous and more able to control host institutions.

As we know, HBDers are hysterically opposed to pan-Europeanism.  Here’s a reason why, demonstrated by an online commentator supporting pan-Europeanism:

Heraclitean Fire
We’re ALL going to need to team up — the entire West — to have a prayer at effectively opposing China.
China is an existential threat like we have never faced before as a country.
China’s size, economic might, military, & technological prowess dwarf the Soviets of yesteryear.

HBD is all about having Whites as a humiliated and degraded slave race to Asians (particularly the Chinese) and Jews. Having the West “team up” against China is literally blasphemy to HBD, and of course, to Silk Road White nationalism as well.  Instead, we all need to engage in “measured groveling” to all those Chinese girls with guns who will be “guarding the borders of the West.”

Arrogant Europeans always like to say” “Dumb Americans know nothing about Europe and European politics and should stay out it.”  Very well.  The opposite is true as well. Excuse me, ”Tommy Robinson,” but you’re delusional if you think the fat wad of shit Trump cares about you and your interests.  You’re not Israel, Negro prison reform, or a Big Mac, so why should he pay attention?

Trump is a fraud and always has been.

And I’d like to answer Johnson again with his assertion that it’s not true that Trump was always a fraud. His statement slyly implies to the audience that all the people saying “Trump was always a fraud” are using 20-20 hindsight.  No, there are a few of us – Strom and I being two examples – who correctly labelled Trump as a fraud BEFORE the election.

What were the signs obvious to those with a triple digit IQ?  Let’s see. Trump was a man with close Jewish family connections and an established history of hobnobbing with both wealthy Jews and with Negro celebrities.  He used to be buddies with the Clintons, who attended his (third) wedding.  He was well established as having “New York values” and had supported Democratic politicians. The man was a New York real estate mogul and reality TV star.  He had no grounding or background whatsoever in any of the issues of importance to “our side.”  His campaign, while useful in promoting chaos and balkanization, was nothing more than cheap blustering and a few comments about “Mexican rapists.” The man, as exemplified by his shockingly pathetic, ignorant, and buffoonish debate performances was and is a vulgar clown.

Why would anyone in their right mind believe he was sincere?