Category: Dienekes

Der Movement Dishonesty

Analysis.

Surprise: Pro-homosexual apologia in this discussion.  Who would have ever guessed?  Starting at 1:27:30.

Logical flaw: Just because negative attitudes about homosexuality derived from Judeo-Christianity doesn’t mean that those attitudes are wrong. That’s a fallacy, sort of like ad hominem; instead, everything needs to be judged on its own merits.  One has to evaluate homosexuality based on its effects on society, independent of what people thousands of years ago said or did.

The DNA ancestry result mentioned (1% North African for Greg Johnson): tells you something about the validity of low percentage “admixture.”  Anything less than 10% should be viewed with skepticism, less than 5% with extreme skepticism, and anything less than around 1% is ludicrous. If we assume that Johnson’s ancestry is (more or less) fully of founding stock ancestry, then where does this 1% come from?  It could reflect some sort of ancient influx (“just so” stories of North African soldiers of the Roman Empire stationed in Britain), OR it could be some sort of artifact. I believe that the latter is more likely than the former; however, this applies not only to the Johnsons of the world but to everyone else.  The DNA testing companies err on the side of false positives, Type I errors, which makes the tests more attractive to the naïve looking for the “Indian Princess” in their background, or others attracted to “unexpected and controversial results.”  And, of course, there are political motivations as well. But Johnson’s results could be real.  However, if they are real, explanations better than popular “just so” stories are required. In the end, it really doesn’t matter; absolute racial purity is a myth.

Johnson’s initial dismissal of the Hermansson infiltration as essentially a “joke” that did no real damage is dishonest. He keeps on harping on the fact that “no real damage was done” – disregarding my comments again and again that the problem is NOT what the outcome was, but what is says about “movement” “leadership’s” piss-poor judgment and its obsessive ethnic fetishism.  Johnson then basically admits after 1:39 that the essential problem was the fact of the infiltration itself rather than the outcome, so why try to dismiss it to begin with? Excuse: Johnson trusted Steadman and his “extreme vetting.”  Why would you trust a guy wearing shorts at meetings, who blows on Viking horns, and who is an obsessive Scando-fetishist?  This is an issue of judgment.

Greg Johnson: Thin-skinned?  No, more like papyrus-skinned.  The latest from his blog:

By the way, this will be your last comment here. I do not provide a platform for people to spit in my face by accusing me of bad faith.

Obsessive attacks against Richard Spencer are, on the other hand, of course welcomed.  Note conversation starting at 19:30 in the Luke Ford podcast.  Spencer, Spencer, it is always about Spencer. Note how Johnson says “everyone” used the term “Alt Right” and jumped on the bandwagon – no, Greg, Strom was skeptical and I was always hostile to the Alt Right.  Thus, once again, a completely dishonest narrative.

More dishonesty: Johnson keeps on talking about how the Alt Right was ruined by people wanting to “control the movement” while ignoring the more fundamental problem of the Alt Right wanting to control the entire racial activist “movement.”

Greg blames the drinking and street fighting on WN 1.0, while the TRUTH is that the WN 1.0 denounced all of that, while the Pepe-Kek cosplay WN 2.0 crowd was solidly behind it.  The entire Alt Right “realm of ideas” was Pepe, Kek, Beavis-and-Butthead sniggering, drinking, juvenile jackassery – and while Alt Right apologists were praising the “youth culture,” “old school” WN 1.0 folks were denouncing all of that.  And here comes Johnson, blaming the faults of WN 2.0 on the WN 1.0 that was actually denouncing it.  Outrageous dishonesty.  And who was saying “the Alt Right is White nationalism or nothing at all?’’  Amazing.  “Bad faith?”

And, hey, Greg, you’re not going to get a “mass movement” based on Pepe and Savitri Devi.

By the way: “Dr. Johnson” – he earned it!  How about Dr. Sallis?   Get over yourself already. 

If Johnson believes that talk of “false flags” is mostly stupid – and I agree – then is he going to denounce Roissy’s promotion of the false flag narrative?

And by the way, Greg, Tara and Lauren are far from being “Joan of Arc.”  To even imagine such a comparison is ludicrous.  Greg:

This movement is full of disgusting people.

Indeed.

However, with all of that, I do essentially agree with this analysis.  Although I assume Greg will blame that on “WN 1.0,”  even though it can be traced back to both the 2.0 folks and their “boomer” enablers.

Meet the ethnically disinterested Dienekes Pontikos.  No ethnic agenda there!

Rasse und Der Movement in Der News

Odds and ends.

This podcast was a lot better than the usual Alt Right material, reasonably professional and lacking in juvenile jackassery.  That’s probably because it is a European (Swedish) production, cohosted by an American (newly minted) lawyer.  Hopefully, this quality will continue.

When reading this, keep in mind that the “federal government” these days means Donald J. Trump. Dem dere refugees keep on coming though, don’t they? Of, we’ll be told that his “travel ban” is getting blocked.  Well, how about keeping the damn “refugees” in some sort of prison or concentration camp, instead of dumping them onto the good people of Tennessee?

But, but, but…I thought we were all exactly the same?  Emphasis added:

Glycated hemoglobin (HbA1c) is used to diagnose type 2 diabetes (T2D) and assess glycemic control in patients with diabetes. Previous genome-wide association studies (GWAS) have identified 18 HbA1c-associated genetic variants. These variants proved to be classifiable by their likely biological action as erythrocytic (also associated with erythrocyte traits) or glycemic (associated with other glucose-related traits). In this study, we tested the hypotheses that, in a very large scale GWAS, we would identify more genetic variants associated with HbA1c and that HbA1c variants implicated in erythrocytic biology would affect the diagnostic accuracy of HbA1c. We therefore expanded the number of HbA1c-associated loci and tested the effect of genetic risk-scores comprised of erythrocytic or glycemic variants on incident diabetes prediction and on prevalent diabetes screening performance. Throughout this multiancestry study, we kept a focus on interancestry differences in HbA1c genetics performance that might influence race-ancestry differences in health outcomes.

Objective, non-political, ethnically disinterested anthropological and genetic analysis at this website, no doubt.

As far as Catalonia goes, my opinion is if they want independence, give it to them, but it’s really an irrelevant issue in the last analysis.  What are they going to do with their vaunted independence and ethnonationalist sovereignty?  Import more alien immigrants and “refugees?”

Population Genetics: 8/17/17

More refutation of “movement” ethnic fetishism.

Read this.

And then this.

From the original paper (emphasis added):

Phenotype prediction from genetic data has enabled the reconstruction of the appearance of ancient Europeans who left no visual record of their pigmentation. By contrast, the appearance of the Bronze Age people of the Aegean has been preserved in colourful frescos and pottery, depicting people with mostly dark hair and eyes. We used the HIrisPlex tool (Supplementary Information section 4) to infer that the appearance of our ancient samples matched the visual representations (Extended Data Table 2), suggesting that art of this period reproduced phenotypes naturalistically. 

We estimated the fixation index, FST, of Bronze Age populations with present-day West Eurasians, finding that Mycenaeans were least differentiated from populations from Greece, Cyprus, Albania, and Italy (Fig. 2), part of a general pattern in which Bronze Age populations broadly resembled present-day inhabitants from the same region (Extended Data Fig. 7).

No, no, a thousand times, no! 

Seriously though, I believe we will find that (relative) genetic continuity is more the rule rather than the exception.  The big changes in population composition are occurring today, and it’s probably more realistic to concentrate on preserving our genetic interests today than indulging in increasingly refuted “movement” ethnic fetishism.

Of Emails and Morons

The usual stupidity.
 
The Trump fanboys are all once again becoming hysterically breathless, this time about the FBI announcement that they are re-opening the Clinton email investigation, this due to material found in their investigation of Middle Eastern Asiatic Anthony Weiner, soon-to-be-ex-husband of Hillary’s “good friend,” the horse-faced Asiatic Huma. According to the fanboys, this announcement alone is sufficient to absolutely ensure that Der Touchback does a Vince McMahon strut into the Oval Office, “grabbing pussy” with both short-fingered hands.
More sane individuals will take a “wait-and-see” approach. FBI investigations, particularly on important subjects like this one, are typically not completed within a week-and-a half, unless there is actually nothing there of importance and is quickly announced as such, which may well be the case. In that scenario, this whole incident will rebound to Clinton’s benefit and Trump’s detriment. This scenario may indeed unfold as a “boy who cried wolf” situation in which the electorate gets sick of hearing about email “smoke” that does not lead to indictment “fire” and instead worries about much more important things, such as when the next yeast-infected vaginal windbag is going to accuse Don Fats of years-old sexual harassment.
Now, of course, it may be possible that this renewed investigation does find truly damaging material. But for it to affect the outcome of the election, it would seem to require either:
1) Something so horrendous – like the revelation that Hillary smothered Scalia with that pillow (or, more realistically, with one of her torso’s fat flabs) – that it must come out now and shatters the Clinton candidacy (although I suspect most of her supporters would still vote for her even if she were under investigation for murder), OR
2) Something less dramatic, but still truly damaging, which gets revealed via a leak or via an official announcement by an FBI under pressure to announce what it is they are investigating. This may – may – flip enough votes for Der Touchback to squeeze out a victory.
But we do not know what’s there, we do not know whether this is just another misdirection, we do not know what the timetable will be of any revelations, if there actually are any. It may well be that a Clinton Presidency (the sequel) will be mired in endless scandal and investigation (just like the original). It may well be that Donny Amnesty pulls out a surprise victory. Who knows? Definitive comments about an unknown and fluid situation is stupid – the hallmark of Der Movement.
Indeed, the Roissyian hysteria is just another indication of Der Movement’s absolute, unbridled stupidity – and that applies even if the emails contain a bombshell revelation.
Meanwhile, a Roissy commentator writes:

What is your fear of hubris protecting us from? Feeling bad that we predicted wrong? That bet-hedging comes at the price of unsteady confidence when it is needed the most, where we are now, in “the deep breath before the plunge.”

Can this be believed? That a (ostensibly) White man needs to have explained to him why Negro-like empty overconfidence is dangerous? Again, are these the kinds of folks you want in the foxhole with you, or actually leading you into battle? People who see no danger in hubris? Who don’t see the dangers of foolhardy words and actions, driven by empty bravado, endangering the group and putting things at risk? Going back to the “boy who cried wolf” – even the retarded “movement” masses, enabling as they do affirmative action quota queens, may eventually tire of false promises, absurdly wrong predictions, non-existent “victories,” dashed hopes, and the constant stench of absolute failure. The Roissy crowd sings the praises of NW Euro-Germanic man, but they themselves instead behave like mindless strutting Negroes or, even worse and lower on the racial scale, foppish gold chain-wearing guido Afrowops.
Once again “Dienekes Pontikos” proves himself a purely apolitical and unbiased observer of the ethnic/racial/sociobiological/anthropological/genetic scene. On the other hand, compared to the Polish/Slavic chauvinism of “Polako,” Dienekes actually is all of that – but only in comparison.

 

Dienekes on U6

An Eurasian origin?


Ordinarily, I have zero interest in mitochondrial and NRY DNA studies, but there is an underlying issue here that is relevant to the important autosomal DNA – some of what has been considered “admixture” may not be, it may be due to a misunderstanding of haplotype/haplogroup origins or, for autosomal DNA, a lack of proper parental populations (or a lack of application of statistical significance).  Or, a failure to go back far enough.  That may or not be the case here, but in population genetics, as in science as a whole, there is never a “final answer” – new data should can always alter beliefs/hypotheses.

In any case, the “racial purity” meme is less relevant to EGI than is genetic kinship, an all-encompassing concept that takes into account all sources of genetic divergence (including real admixture), to establish the genetic benefits and costs of different biopolitical scenarios.

The Latest From Fogle…No, I Mean Derbyshire

More HBD stupidity.

Child porn legalization-supporter (*) John Derbyshire has more nonsense on the far-left VDARE site.

The stupidity in all of this is incredible.  The idea that Serbia’s average IQ is in the range of American Negro IQ is ludicrous, and more Lynnian imbecility. Imagine a nation composed of American Negroes, similar to a giant Detroit, and then compare areas of Europe Lynn and the HBDers say are roughly equivalent. Even morons like the HBDers should see the problem immediately – except they are so consumed by their rigid political dogmas they cannot even question the discordance between theory and reality.

Also, Argentina is not “97% White;” population genetics studies clearly show a very large mestizo population; only a minority fraction of that country are Spanish, Italian, or German.  The idea that “Argentina is White” is one of the great racial lies of HBD as well as Der Movement.

Derbyshire not only quotes Jayman and Lynn, but also the subhuman HBD GNXP worm Malloy, a low-life, no-character piece of filth who, approximately a dozen years ago on the Dienekes blog, called me a “terrorist” because I (1) oppose Asian immigration, and (2) wrote a positive essay about Belgian politician-soldier Leon Degrelle.  In the post-9/11 hysteria, to label someone a “terrorist” simply because they disagree you with on immigration policy or interpretations of history, clearly shows that the person doing the labeling has to be among the biggest pieces of shit in human history.  Just the type to be linked to John “Jared Fogle” Derbyshire.

* His actual words, emphasis added (be sure to spread this far and wide):

…there is an anarcho-tyranny angle here that is sufficiently deplorable in itself. Why should it be a crime to have child porn on your computer? (Note that the item on the charge sheet about Bukovsky “making” child-porn images is bogus. As Claire Berlinski explains, under U.K. law just downloading images counts as “making” them.) 

Enjoying child porn is weird and creepy to be sure. I cleave, however, to the old principle that you can’t go to jail for what you’re thinking. In the Western world of today, as the waters of totalitarian conformity rise all around us, that point of view seems positively quaint.

Defending Salterism: Polygeneic Adaption

Polygenic adaption.

With respect to this study reflecting “polygenic adaption,” I would like to comment, in effect pre-empting retarded “arguments” by anti-Salterian (and anti-White) activists asserting that the genetic changes discussed somehow invalidate the EGI concept.
There has been a mistaken belief – from both Right and Left – that the concept of genetic interests supports a form of biologically reactionary genetic stasis/conservatism, in which any change, even positive, is eschewed.  That is false.  In On Genetic Interests, Salter makes clear that replacing maladaptive alleles can boost the fitness of the distinctive genome, hence enhancing genetic interests, and there is also the statement that genetic competition and unequal outcomes must be allowed to continue.
Further, natural processes such as natural selection, sexual selection, genetic drift, etc. will occur, will always occur, and, of course, as a sexually reproducing species, independent assortment and recombination during meiosis means that the “genetic deck of cards” get “reshuffled” each generation.  That is part and parcel of sexually reproducing life, natural selection is part and parcel of all life, and so all these phenomenon are also part and parcel of genetic interests.  Of course, there will be change. Indeed, the EGI concept is also compatible with eugenics, and Salter has written on eugenics as stand-alone essays in other forums (for example, see footnote).
What EGI does reject is large scale (and unnecessary) replacement of the genetic information of one people by another, through mass migration, miscegenation, etc.  That a single ethny will change somewhat over time due to natural processes is of course perfectly natural and acceptable, that this ethny will be race replaced or radically altered through mongrelization is neither natural nor acceptable.
It is quite possible to compare the genetics of ancient peoples to that of moderns.  One can observe that, for example, despite thousands of years of genetic differentiation, Otzi the Iceman falls within the European genetic spectrum, and is more similar to modern Europeans than to, say, Nigerians or Chinamen.  In this respect, the genetic interests of Otzi and his co-ethnics of his time are preserved as much as possible in modern Europeans; however, if modern Europeans were to be race-replaced by alien peoples, then this broad genetic continuity would be broken.  Otzi was a form of European, as are the different European peoples of today.  Nigerians and Chinamen are not.  One can compare the native Britons of today with those of the past and note significant genetic differences due to selection (as well as drift); nevertheless, these peoples share a genetic history and are more closely related to each other than to members of other races. 
I trust the point is clear. Indeed, the ability to adapt to changing environments, without large-scale race replacement or mongrelization by truly alien peoples, would help preserve the genetic interests of past Britons in the present population. The genetic interests of those past Britons are not threatened by selection, but instead by the mass immigration that will make Britons a minority in their own homeland in the coming decades.

Footnote: