Category: epigenetics

Movement and Epimovement

Clarifications.

Read this, dated November 29, 2018

Read this, dated August 1, 2018.

Hmm…Der Movement catches up eventually.

Now, Zman’s complaints are for the most part correct (if overblown); epigenetics is being grossly over-interpreted by both the Left and the Traditionalist Right.

However, as I wrote:

While I believe that epigenetic influences are grossly overestimated by ideologues of both the Left and Right, who have political reasons for de-emphasizing genetic determinism, it is wrong to lurch in the opposite direction and completely disregard potential epigenetic mechanisms.

We cannot completely rule out epigenetic mechanisms as a secondary, reinforcing, weaker mechanism for race-culture, the primary mechanisms being genetic differences and learned culture.  By a crude analogy to physics, genetics and culture are “strong forces” (e.g., nuclear) while epigenetics is a weak force (e.g., gravity).  But gravity, while being a weak force, is somewhat relevant to someone falling off a building. When dealing with objects with large mass, like the Earth, gravity is strong in aggregate; the same could be held for weak epigenetic influences that, if present over entire populations, can exert considerable racio-cultural force.

Having said that, my work over the years makes clear that I am NOT any sort of proponent of epigenetics as a significant factor in racial differences – those differences being CLEARLY genetic in origin.  Thus, the EGI Notes post linked above spends 99% of its content discussing Gene-Culture interactions, with epigenetics as a side note. 

In summary: Epigenetics may have a small and secondary but not completely insignificant role in reinforcing certain isolated and specific characteristics that are primarily determined by the interplay of genes and culture. However, the environmental influences that possibly exert effects through epigenetics must be consistent over time if you wish the epigenetics to be equally stable.  Epigenetic effects of starvation, for example, can be passed down from parent to child but it is unlikely that this will be carried down endlessly through time…unless the Dutch are continuously subjected to famines every few decades.  So, a consistent environmental factor could in theory continuously reinforce an epigenetic modification, but a one-off event is not expected to permanently alter a people’s epigenome.  Of course, given shifting gene frequencies over time, and effects of selection, changing environments will alter a populations’ genome as well.

Another analogy may be useful here.  Imagine an important book that describes Culture.  The main content of the text, the main text, the vast bulk of the words, explanations, meanings, and arguments are the Genes. In contrast, Epigenetics would be the footnotes to that main text. Many of the footnotes would be relatively unimportant; however, several of them would be very important clarifications of the meaning of the main text. In subsequent editions of the book, one would find that the footnotes are changing more frequently (additions, deletions, modifications) than is the main text; every once in a while, a significant change in the main text happens and that would be a particularly important new edition of the book.

That, given what we know now, puts things in the proper perspective.  The Traditionalists (and the Left) are wrong to elevate epigenetics as somehow the equal (or superior!) to genetics; the HBDers are wrong to equate the reality of epigenetics to crude Lamarckianism.  Both sides are politically motivated.  Real science keeps on investigating, though – speculating, hypothesizing, testing, and evaluating

And how about this analogy – the core reality of racial and cultural differences constitute the “genetics” of racial activism; while more ephemeral phenomena – influenced by people’s agendas – such as Traditionalism or HBD are the “epigenetics” of racial activism, mere footnotes (and in those cases, not clarifying at all).

Let us now consider some “words of wisdom” – dating from the mid-late 1990s – of a well-known “movement leader’ who shall remain nameless since this was from a private conversation.

First, with respect to the situation in Russia at that time, this “leader” suggested that it would be good if the Communist Party came back into power there, since they were “anti-Jewish” and “anti-globalist.” By that logic, the Islamic takeover of Europe is a good thing, since they are also anti-Jewish and anti-globalist.

Then, in response to my suggestion that this “leader” and his group utilize stock market investment (and other financial instruments) to grow their portfolio and hence have more funds for their activism – “no, I don’t want to do that, because playing the stock market is like gambling,”

Of course, proper fund investing, starting from that time and extending 20 years (until fairly recently) would have yielded an approximate 200% increase in funds.  Other investments would have yielded a greater positive outcome.

Thus, I’m sure readers of this blog will be shocked – shocked I say! – to learn that Sallis was right and The Fearless Leader wrong.  But, hey, keep on following these leaders because….affirmative action.

Oh, for godssakes:

Lord of the Rings is now being posited as a European meta-myth that can help guide us back from the brink.

I really do suspect an ethnic element in this – the “subracial soul.”  What some of us see as tiresomely boring, juvenile, and pretentious, others see as the core around to build a “European meta-myth.”  Sorry, friend, not all Europeans are buying it, only that fraction for whom “being snug in your hobbit hole” resonates as a “Faustian drive.” Sure enough, after all, burrowing into a hole in the forest and pretending to playact as semi-feudal “traditionalist” “hobbits” is better than all that scientific mumbo jumbo about “reaching the stars” (not Faustian that!) – we’ll leave all of that science and technics stuff to the Chinese, who will of course ultimately learn that they can’t power their steampunk starships because peak oil.  But them, I’m just a crazy and bitter orc and hence to be ignored.

Those wild and crazy South Asian cognitive elitists:

…a curious anecdote he relates about his own Bengali immigrant mother. Supposedly, when challenged by another woman (presumably white) for having such a large family at a time of a “population crisis,” Salam’s mother responded that “she fully intended to have a large family so that she and her offspring would displace America’s native inhabitants, just as European settlers seized the lands of the American Indians.”

That my friends is the essence, the fundamental meaning, the underlying core, the reality of “HBD race realism” – arrogant Asians and Jews replacing Whites, dispossessing Whites, gleefully subjecting Whites.  All promoted by the likes of John “self-admitted measured groveling to my Asiatic wife” Derbyshire.  Delenda est HBD!

Roissy:

The lawlessness of the FBI, CIA, and DOJ beggar belief. I’m not kidding when I say creeps like Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Rosenstein, and Mueller should be in the docket to answer for their crimes of treason.

So why does Trump do absolutely nothing?

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Rosit on the Penman Hypothesis

Biohistorical speculations.

I really don’t have much to add to Rosit’s fine analysis, except to note that culture is a proximate interest, albeit the most important proximate interest, and one that – as I have written about extensively – affects our ultimate (genetic) interests.  But, any complete analysis of the decline of the West must put EGI first and foremost.  That would, as a matter of necessity, bring forth, directly, the race issue, the inability to deal with fully and honestly being, as Rosit suggests, a flaw in Penman’s hypothesis. Also, while epigenetic modifications are may in particular contexts be important, there are many, on both the Right and the Left, with an axe to grind against “genetic determinism” that overrate the importance of epigenetics with regards to the final phenotype.  

A reasonable analogy would be that the body is the hardware (computer), the genes are the software, and epigenetics may in part determine whether a particular software program is turned on or off.  That’s important, no doubt, but without the underlying software, there’s nothing to tun on or off, without the software, the hardware is merely a paperweight, and  – and this is crucial – not all computers are running the same software.  If one computer has a particularly powerful program and the other does not, all the “turning on or off” in the world won’t make up the difference.  Epigenetics has become an over-rated meme.

Penman’s grim prognosis is more or less correct, and having the pathetic “movement” as the major vehicle for preventing the racial-cultural disaster that is unfolding is part of the problem.

We need to start rebuilding now, before the collapse, and Der Movement is hardly capable of doing so.

Fool’s Gold: Netherlands Conference and Misunderstanding Epigenetics

“Movement” stupidity.

Yes, a bunch of HBD/race realists and a “greed is good” “National Capitalist” bodybuilder whose YouTube channel tells us:

This is a channel dedicated to how glorious and magnificent I am.

Sharing some of my divine wisdom when it comes to obtaining an ultimate physique worthy of the Gods!

Yes, the new golden age is just around the corner!

Consider this moronic comment left by a fact-devoid gamester commentator:

Consider two factoids, in lieu of long, drawn out arguments:

1. An organism’s form: tissues, organs, systems – the whole architecture – is epigenetic (meaning beyond DNA). The difference in size and shape of a tulip and a blue whale has nothing to do with DNA and is wholly epigenetic. (Thus, you can have identical twins with the same DNA – one born with birth defects w/o any arms for ex., while the other can have a full body and be a pro athlete.)

2. Fascinating studies have been conducted in embryos whereby the DNA is extracted before first cell division. According to the “DNA is king” crowd, the organism should be absolutely dead right there. It’s not. The embryos can continue developing for hundreds of cell division, even forming early-stage tissues, before eventually it does die off.

1. This is completely and absolutely wrong, another example of the solipsism in Der Movement: just stating something makes it true, don’t you know. 

“Factoid” – Epigenetics modifies the expression of the genetic information encoded in the DNA, it does not replace it.

The identical twins example; such an occurrence would be exceedingly rare even if theoretically possible. It’s theoretically possible that epigenetic modifications of genes that control bodily development could cause birth defects (but why pray tell would it affect one identical twin in utero and not the other given they are in exactly the same environment?). So what? Maybe you’d get one in a million blue whales born without a flipper because of an epigenetic modification due to ocean pollution, but you sure as hell am not going to get a blue whale that looks like a mouse…or a tulip. DNA is the main player; epigenetics is the sideshow. 

Anyone with at least a room temperature IQ would realize that epigenetic modifications are modifications of DNA and of the RNA produced by the DNA; it’s not “beyond DNA” you rambling idiot but OF DNA.  Epigenetics is modifying the expression of genes encoded by DNA sequences, it is not some mysterious force floating around independent of those same genes. And what does the epigenetic modifications?  Acetylases, deacetylases, methyltransferases – enzymes that, like all other proteins, are encoded by…DNA sequences.