Category: ethnic interests vs. economics

The Strange Murder of Europe

Useful review.
Read this.

Excerpts and comments:

The book begins with language designed to shock those only mildly aware of the extent of the problem: “Europe is committing suicide. Or at least its leaders have decided to commit suicide. Whether the European people choose to go along with this is, naturally, another matter” (p. 1). These are simple but important statements. He clearly identifies the disconnect between the European peoples and European leadership and to some degree absolves those being ruled from responsibility for the policies of the rulers. 

Thus, Europe is being murdered, not committing suicide. Mama Markel is one of the prime murderers.  When will there will a Nuremberg trial for her?

And, crucially, he distinguishes himself from the ranks of doom-and-gloomers by suggesting that Europeans are not beholden to false notions of historical inevitability, that there is hope, that they can act to change course. 

The inevitability argument is particularly weak and mendacious in that it presupposes the very thing it assumes is inevitable.  With respect to (non-biological; after all death is – at least for now truly inevitable) human affairs the only things that are really inevitable are those we assume to be so.However, a mere few paragraphs later the central weakness of his work becomes apparent when he writes that:While generally agreeing that it is possible for an individual to absorb a particular culture (given the right degree of enthusiasm both from the individual and the culture) whatever their skin colour, we know that we Europeans cannot become Indian or Chinese, for instance. And yet we are expected to believe that anyone in the world can move to Europe and become European. If being ‘European’ is not about race–as we hope it is not–then it is even more imperative that it is about ‘values’ (p. 5).Murray is a retarded civic nationalist cuck.  Nevertheless, his book still retains some value.Along with this tactic came the “it’s too late now anyway” argument. Mr. Murray quotes the Conservative mayor of London, Boris Johnson: “We need to stop moaning about the dam-burst. It’s happened. There is nothing we can do now except make the process as eupeptic as possible” (pp. 25-26). Murray’s comments regarding such attitudes are perfectly stated. He writes that it seems to have never occurred to men such as Johnson that:. . . there are those who may sustain a degree of anger about the fact that all the main parties had for years taken a decision so wholly at variance with public opinion. At the very least . . . there is something profoundly politically disenfranchising about such talk. Not only because it suggests a finality to a story that is in fact ongoing, but because it adopts a tone more ordinarily directed at some revanchist minority rather than towards a majority of the voting public” (p. 26).Talk of “inevitability” is self-fulfilling.  Indeed, it is…inevitably self-fulfilling.Also related is the notion of immigration troubles as karma, a particularly bad line of attack in that it is an implicit acknowledgement of the problems caused by immigration. Mr. Murray quotes the terrible novelist, professor, and Jew, Will Self: “Up to the Suez crisis . . . most people’s conception of what being British involved was basically going overseas and subjugating black and brown people and taking their stuff and the fruits of their labours. That was a core part of British identity . . .” (p. 33). As the author points out, “in these comments one can hear the authentic and undisguised voice of revenge” (p. 33). Whatever one thinks of the British Empire or imperialism, the author is correct in hearing a tone of vengeance coming from this Jew. Indeed, anyone who has spent any amount of time engaging in debates on immigration knows how quickly revenge and hostility is revealed to be the obvious motivating factor behind pro-immigration advocacy. Only whites who advocate for immigration will do so out of misplaced humanitarian concerns. The rest are out for blood and bounty.This is true.  Only look at Yahoo comments threads, in any story about immigration and declining White demographics.  If the story is about America, there will be snide leftist remarks about Amerindians; if the story is about Europe it will be about colonialism (obvious, comments about the rights of indigenous peoples won’t “fly” with respect to anti-White agendas in Europe, so there it is colonialism).In chapter three, “The Excuses We Told Ourselves,” the author addresses the justifications for immigration. He begins with economics. We are constantly told that immigration is good for the economy with a regular parade of “experts” explaining to us why both what we can easily observe as well as what even the most basic understanding of economics indicate is true is actually false. Even if immigration was truly beneficial for the economy, it is ruinous for the natives and their genetic interests, and a rough economic cost calculation can be performed, such as this.

Is “the economy” going to be boosted sufficiently to pay off trillions of dollars (in real value, money backed up by real productivity, not worthless inflated money hot off the printing presses) to natives?  So what if GDP goes up due to a Ponzi scheme of inflated population numbers of consumers?  If a people are being replaced they do not in the long run benefit.  Others do.

The next common argument for immigration he tackles is that it is needed to replenish aging native populations. Like the economic argument, this too would quickly fall apart in the minds of average people with even a bit of common sense without being strategically preempted by a parade of “experts.” It is true that white Europeans are not reproducing at replacement rates. The first thing that should come to someone’s mind when hearing this is the half century’s worth of environmental concerns related to overpopulation. As Mr. Murray points out, overpopulation used to be a major concern among Leftists and environmentalists. He writes: “It is a point of minor interest that as third-world immigration to Europe has swelled, the Green movements have ceased to argue for population caps or to campaign for restrictions on reproduction” (p. 45). This is hardly a point of minor interest. He goes on: “While happy to tell white Europeans to stop breeding, they become somewhat reticent about making the same request of darker-skinned immigrants” (p. 45). The same is true in all historically white countries and the reasons are the same: no cause–even one regularly presented in terms as urgent as the life or death of our planet–is more important to the globalist elite than the marginalization (even to the point of eradication) of whites.[2] In any case, as the author notes, there is no reason to assume that population growth needs to continue: it does not necessarily improve the quality of life for native populations. Immigrants flock to already heavily-populated areas thereby increasing the stresses on already stressed infrastructures. “Anybody concerned about quality of life for Europeans would wonder about how to lessen their populations, not substantially increase them” (pp. 45-46).

Good points.

But, the author asks, what if immigration is required simply to maintain current population levels? The sensible thing would be to determine whether the native population was not having children because they did not want to or because they couldn’t. Evidence indicates that the latter is the case. It seems as if Europeans are not having many children because they cannot afford to do so (pp. 46-47). The author adds that it is possible that part of the concern is that would-be parents “may not appreciate the endless amount of ‘diversity’ in their local schools and may want their children educated around people from a similar cultural background” (p. 47).

Yockey’s Culture Parasitism.  Westerners being replaced by others.If they cannot afford to live in such an area, they forgo having children. They also forgo having children when their vision of the future is bleak. Mr. Murray writes:
If European governments are really so worried about population decline that they would contemplate bringing in higher-reproducing populations from other parts of the world, it would be sensible for them first to work out whether there are policies that could encourage more procreation among their existing populations. In Poland, for instance, the Law and Justice Party has in recent years raised child benefit in order to raise the native birth rate and diminish any reliance on immigration. At the very least, governments should examine whether there are things they are currently doing that are making things worse (pp. 47-48).That was of course never done.  It was never “we’ve tried everything to increase the native birthrate and failed, so now we turn to immigrants” it was instead “we’ve made the country unlivable for natives and crowded them out with the wretched refuse of the Third World, and, hey, look those natives are not reproducing – time for more immigrants.”  And, if the “free market” was so powerful, there should have been free market incentives and solutions capable of increasing the native birthrate, so that the “we need immigrants” fraud would never even had to be broached.  But we’re all fungible, right, Big Money? (Actually, the Third Worlders are considered more pliant labor).

He ends this section by pointing out the blindingly obvious fact that immigrants get old too and that this argument is little more than a pyramid scheme which will require more and more immigrants to sustain it.

A sensible point and one I’ve made a number of times myself, both here and at The Occidental Observer.Finally, Mr. Murray arrives at the argument for immigration based on its inevitability, one that he seems rightly to find especially reprehensible. There are a few ways in which this line of thought tends to go: insistence that it is Europe’s duty to improve living standards for those in other countries who want to come to Europe (despite numerous studies demonstrating that the very poor tend not to migrate because they cannot afford to pay the smugglers); another is that migration controls actually increase rather than decrease immigration–an assertion, the author notes, which is somehow only ever made by open-borders advocates (p. 58). The most common form this argument takes, however, is in the form of globalism as a new and permanent paradigm in which the free movement of peoples across the world cannot be stopped. This, Mr. Murray believes, can be refuted by the example of Japan. He writes:
. . . if globalisation really has made it impossible to prevent people travelling to Europe from across the world, it is worth noting that this global issue does not affect other countries. If the cause is economic pull, then there is no reason why Japan should not currently be experiencing unparalleled waves of immigration from the West. In 2006 the country was the world’s third largest economy if measured by nominal GDP, putting it ahead of Germany and Great Britain. But of course, despite being a larger economy than any in Europe, Japan has avoided a policy of mass immigration by implementing policies that stop it, dissuade people from staying there, and make it hard to become a citizen if you are not Japanese. . . it is obviously possible for even the richest countries not to inevitably become points of attraction for migrants from all over the world (pp. 58-59).Obvious point.

Though this is an over-simplification to say the least, it is fundamentally true. There is absolutely no reason why European countries could not implement policies similar to those of Japan, other than the impediment of traitorous leadership. He ends this discussion by warning that when concerns of the public are not addressed, resentment grows. And immigration has been a major concern of the European public for many years. “If the response is not just to ignore the concern but to argue that it is actually impossible to do anything about it, then radical alternatives begin to brew” (p. 60). Indeed.

Your elites.

The next two chapters give accounts of the events that transpired at the beginning of the immigration crisis of the 2010s and the situation on the ground at two major arrival points for migrants, Italy and Greece. 

But according to the great and good Sir Desmond Jones, those nations are 100% ethnically homogeneous, and will remain so, forever and ever, until the end of time, amen.

What he describes is horrific chaos. Following the “Arab Spring” of 2011, the Italian island of Lampedusa began to be flooded with hundreds and even thousands of people per day, arriving from North Africa. The vast majority were young men who came from all over the Middle East and Africa, even China and the Philippines. The refugee center was overflowing, fights and riots broke out between migrants (he notes that among migrants there is a distinct racial and ethnic hierarchy, with sub-Saharan Africans being considered the lowliest–even being made to stay in the holds of the boats in which they travel)…

Well, I guess Der Movement would consider Middle Easterners, North Africans, and sub-Saharan Africans to be racially identical to Italians, so homogeneity is maintained.  No problem!

…and the Italian residents of the island who initially had been very welcoming…

But, but, but….I thought they were ethnocentric Neolithics, not “high trust Hunter Gatherers.”  How is this possible?…began to grow increasingly nervous. The situation was similar in Greece. But the migrants quickly learned how to play the game more effectively, thanks in part to NGOs who provided advice on what to do and say when they arrived (pp. 62-72). Migrants, for example, now know that it is better to arrive without papers and they know that certain nationalities are prioritized over others so, for example, claiming to be Syrian even if one is not is beneficial. “The truth is that once you survive Lampedusa’s waters you are in Europe for good” (p. 72). He also discusses Angela Merkel’s devastating impact on the problem with her call for the acceptance of these people into Europe and the support she received from the media and political elite, as well as how these elites began to propagandize for war in Syria using the “refugee” crisis as a pretext (p. 82).But Mama Markel is an Aryan uberfrau, so no criticism, please.  Lest you think I joke, think back to the beginning of the Merkel-refugee crisis, at which time this blog was actively criticizing Merkel from the beginning, and Der Movement was “strangely” silent for many weeks (and I even noted that at Counter-Currents).  Yes, they criticize her now, but there was an extreme reticence to do so from the start. Wonder why (sarcasm)?

With chapter ten, “The Tyranny of Guilt,” Mr. Murray begins to drift away from a primary focus on descriptions of the situation and towards what he believes are the causes. He begins by asking why Middle Eastern, African, and Asian Muslim countries have taken in no refugees. The answer is that their leadership understands that it would be disruptive to their societies and have explicitly stated so. He writes: “What is strange is that the default attitude of Europe is to agree that the Gulf States and other societies are fragile, whereas Europe is endlessly malleable” (pp. 158-59). This, he believes, is a result of “a unique, abiding and perhaps finally fatal sense of, and obsession with, guilt” (p. 159)…The author believes this to be a “specific and common European mania” (p. 165) and lists the consequences of such a mania: the lack of a national will; the danger of being overtaken by stronger countries who have not succumbed to this mania; and the transformation of patriotism into shame or ambivalence (pp. 165-69)….As we can see, he locates these problems internally. For him, it is a sickness within European peoples. If these symptoms were to be found in an individual, one would probe deeper for underlying causes: abusive situations in which he might be currently living, childhood traumas, or the presence of disease. He deals with the first masterfully but the only “childhood trauma” he is really comfortable handling is the decline of Christianity and the idea of Europe having a “disease” in the form of a parasitic race which has weakened its immune system is seemingly inconceivable to him.

Jews. Jews. Jews.  And the philosemitic globalist Gentile elites.  Yockey’s Culture distortion, enabled by culture retardation.

He turns again to more horror stories in chapter twelve, entitled “Learning To Live With It.” He describes just a glimpse of the new normal in Europe including regular knife attacks, shooting sprees, machete attacks, bombings, the executions of priests, rape epidemics (including rapes of the elderly, young girls, and young boys), and what are now almost commonplace terrorist attacks. The perpetrators are often Muslims of some race or other but also, unsurprisingly, there are high rates of crime among black African immigrants. And these are covered up by governments and their police in order to combat the rise of racism, nationalism, and to ensure adequate compliance with the push for the further opening of borders.

“Covered up.” Those are your elites. But, you know, nationalist politicians and “Far Rightists” do in fact point out these facts and incidents.  Do the masses listen?  Truth can be found online.  Does anyone look?  Do they care?  If the elites are a problem, the masses enable it.

Again, he uses Sweden as an example: in the same year it had become known that the Swedish press had for years covered up rapes and sexual assaults by immigrants at various public events, “the then ex-PM gave a television interview in which he said that the Swedish people themselves are ‘uninteresting,’ [and] that borders are ‘fictional constructs” (p. 251).

Those are your elites. It is clear that the elites are a major – if not THE major problem.  But, who elects them?  Who tolerates them?  Who refuses to rise up against them?  Pointing a justified finger at elites does not excuse the stupidity and laziness of the masses.

Again, he blames such attitudes on the relatively quick and dramatic weakening of Christianity, which, for many if not most people, found its substitute in liberalism–a universal system that provides meaning, purpose, and organization to one’s life and, instead of an afterlife, “a veneer of immortality suggested by the admiration of your peers” (pp. 270-71). 

Yeah, sure.  The fact that liberalism is just secular Christianity, and the Pope has nothing better to do than shill for alien immigration and to wash and kiss the dirty feet of migrant scum is, of course, irrelevant. Sigh.

Once the immigration crisis began to be too large to not acknowledge as at least somewhat problematic, the responses from politicians and the media were tepid and disingenuous; emphasis was placed on platitudes instead of substance and avoidance of the major questions instead of honest confrontation. 

That last part is the same as how Der Movement deals with its own problems and failures.

The author provides a brief account of some of these responses in chapter seventeen, “The End,” before moving on to the next chapter, “What Might Have Been,” in which he offers his ideas on how European leaders could have handled the immigration crisis differently and more effectively. Among some logistical proposals (such as temporary asylum and foreign aid for refugee centers outside of Europe), he believes that they should have considered more seriously whether Europe should be open to anyone in the world, whether it should be a refuge for anyone fleeing war, and if it is the responsibility of Europeans to provide anyone who desires it access to their standard of living (p. 294). These are not necessarily simple questions (particularly for those who accept the premises of popular sociopolitical discourse) but, as he points out, concerns for justice undergirded all such discussions and were always one-sided: “The absent party in all this, for whom justice was never considered, were the peoples of Europe. 

But of course.  Come on, Murray, haven’t you heard?  The whole raison d’etre of the System is hostility to European-descended peoples, worldwide.  A lack of justice for Europeans is a feature of the whole System, not a bug. The EU is concerned with the interests and rights of everyone in Europe EXCEPT for native Europeans.In the final chapter, “What Will Be,” Mr. Murray issues a warning to elites that sounds rather different from what one normally hears from conservatives:
The public may want contradictory things, but they will not forgive politicians of–whether by accident or design–they change our continent completely. If they do so change it then many of us will regret this quietly. Others will regret it less quietly. Prisoners of the past and present, for Europeans there seem finally to be no decent answers to the future. Which is now the fatal blow will finally land (p. 320).His tone and word choice are important. Only superficially is this statement reminiscent of the “tiredness” of which he wrote. It is, in fact, bursting with fighting spirit: there is no ambiguity, no assumption of compassion for the traitors, and a frank admission that for many Europeans complacency will not be an option. There will be consequences. Current elites must be replaced. The example of the French Revolution can be instructive in this regard.  All done by legally convened tribunals of course.

Odds and Ends, 4/29/20

In der news.

This is all milady’s fault.  Minorities and women, women and minorities – it is all one.

Well, well, well…closing in on the monsters. Next, we need FARA and treason investigations for leading HBDers. 

Following up on this, some papers on the origins of lactase persistence in Europe (emphasis added) – See this.

We infer that the coevolution of European LP and dairying originated in a region between central Europe and the northern Balkans around 6,256 to 8,683 years BP…After the initial slow increase of LP frequency in those populations and the onset of the Central European LBK culture around 7,500 BP, LP frequencies rose more rapidly in a gene-culture co-evolutionary process and on the wave front of a demographic expansion (see Supplementary Videos S1, S2 and S3), leading to the establishment of highly developed cattle- (and partly also goat-) based dairying economies during the Middle Neolithic of central Europe around 6,500 BP. 

We estimate that strong selection occurred within the past 5,000-10,000 years, consistent with an advantage to lactase persistence in the setting of dairy farming; the signals of selection we observe are among the strongest yet seen for any gene in the genome.

It would appear that there had already been strong selection for lactase persistence in Northern and Central Europe long before the Roman Republic. Yet Roman samples from the Iron Age/Republic period lack lactase persistence, and thus are distinct from Northern and Central European populations, instead being Southern European/Mediterranean. In fact, lactase persistence became present in Roman samples only in later ages of Roman history, upon the influx of Germanics into Italy, bringing the Fall of the (Western) Roman Empire and the death of the Classical Civilization.  The PCA (with Rome-specific admixture at right) is here for examination.  Kemp weeps.

Of course, the last time archaeogenetics refuted Kemp, Der Movement interpreted that as “Arthur Kemp was right.”  You just can’t make this stuff up.

How about autosomal DNA analysis of the “Nordic” Napoleon Bonaparte (who was, we were told, “born in Sardinia of French noble ancestry”…laughter ensues)?  After all, Nap’s NRY is so wonderfully Nordic.

(spelling corrected) 

Haplogroup:

Napoleon belonged to haplogroup E-M34. This group originated approximately 7.000 years ago at the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea between and Egypt and Turkey. Today this haplogroup can most frequently be found in Israel, the Palestinian territories and Lebanon. Also 10% of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews belong to that haplogroup.

Saint Adolf can productively comment about that NRY as well.  Arya…Arya….


Why does Duchesne waste so much time with that HBD-Nordicist nonsense? By the way, looking at the (mostly, unsupervised) “admixture” data from the Rome paper in a relative, comparative fashion, it seems to be that the wonderfully heroic and individualist (*) steppe and WHG ancestries are approximately similar between Iron Age/Republic and Modern, even though the former are supposed to be representative of a wonderfully heroic and individualist character while the latter are said to be cringing collectivist Outer Hajnal mongrelized swarthoids. Further, even the Imperial Roman samples still retain steppe ancestry, although WHG is mostly lost there and steppe may be somewhat decreased.  And where does the WHG return and steppe reach to modern levels?  Late Antiquity – the time of maximal corruption, maximal decline, followed by the Fall. That is, increased “northern and western” ancestry correlated to maximization of all the behavioral negatives allegedly due to “southern and eastern” ancestry (latter ancestry peaking when the empire was in fact at its maximum of power and efficiency).  


The major point is the broad similarity between Roman Republic and Modern with respect to the HBD Nordicist’s favorite ancestral components, with a secondary finding that, with respect to steppe ancestry, even the Imperial samples aren’t too different.

You do know that HBD-Nordicism is not any way supported by actual evidence?  You do know that it simply combines the errors of HBD and the errors of Nordicism into one tragicomic whole?  Der Movement can label MacDonald’s flim-flam as “landmark” or “groundbreaking” – it doesn’t change the fact that it is just more HBD pseuodoscience, which will be continuously debunked just like Kemp is.

*I’m being sarcastic, if you can’t tell. I find it difficult to believe you can make simplistic deterministic behavioral conclusions based on the relative proportions of hunter-gatherer, steppe, and farmer ancestries in European populations.  But even if you go down that rabbit hole, the data don’t support a significant difference between Iron Age/Republic Romans and Modern Romans


Laugh at this:

Travis LeBlanc

Posted April 25, 2020 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

To me, American nationalism is merely the acknowledgement that white Americans are a distinct group of people and must be appealed to in a certain way.

I’ve always thought it was kind of larpy to identify as a “European”. To me, “Europeans” are people who are obsessed with soccer, take 3 hour lunches, make incredibly boring art films, have no sense of humor, and are perpetually on strike. They are people whose politicians have public mistresses, and whose women don’t shave.

Asking white Americans to identify as “European” is kind of like asking them to identify as a mammal. On some level, everyone knows they are one but it is too grandiose of a concept to wrap their heads around on a day to day basis.

Americans have a certain joie de vivre that is very attractive and distinct to them. You can go any country in the world and you will find people trying to talk, act, and dress like Americans. Everyone in the world wishes they were American except for the Alt Right who wish they were Germans in the 1930’s and that’s a goddamn shame. We literally invented the concept of “cool” and no one does cool better than us.

Forget “It’s OK to be white”. It’s OK to be American.

If this moron thinks that “everyone in the world wishes they were American” he’s delusional and has never left his parents’ basement.  Even if that was true, which it is not, it confuses descriptive and prescriptive. The objective is not to embrace the current America or the current Europe. The objective is not to make either Americans or Europeans feel good about the sorry state they are each in. The objective is not to divide Euro-Americans from Europeans, or to promote crass Americanism, which is exemplified by overweight lardasses waving American flags and screaming about “my freedom” in response to “lockdowns” while they say absolutely nothing when their “freedom “is violated on a daily basis by forced racial integration, de facto censorship, and rampant political correctness.  Stop already. It’s not “OK to be American.” It’s not “OK” to be an ignorant, cowardly fat bastard.  Yet more evidence that Counter-Currents is diving headlong into a Majority Rights-style decline.  By the way, the above quote comes from the comments thread of the original laughably superficial and juvenile post.

Let me explain the facts of “movement” life to all you rank-and-file guys, the types who breathlessly read such nonsense. Both the “Amnats” and the “Wignats” are failed, useless, moronic WN 2.0ers who are going nowhere.  Fuentes IS part of the “movement.”  All those guys are part of the “movement.”  The entire “movement “is an unmitigated failure.  What you have is various failed factions of a laughably incompetent and tragically inept overarching failure blaming each other as being specifically responsible for that failure, while the truth is that they have ALL contributed to it.

Engelman:

If you visit the science and mathematics department of any elite university you will find it crowded with Chinese. They did not get there by affirmative action. They got there by talent and hard work.

I have written about this before, but once again I would like to give the reader a STEM insider’s broad overview as to why you find so many Chinese – particularly Chinese nationals – in American STEM.  The process is as follows. It all starts with White and Jewish Principal Investigators (PIs) who preferentially take Chinese students and hire Chinese postdocs, etc. because “unlike Americans, the Chinese will work 20 hours per day in the lab and never complain” – an actual quote I heard.

Now, it is true that the Chinese will work long hours and won’t complain (at least in English). Unfortunately, what they will do is waste hours gibbering to each other in Mandarin, playing the stock market on the computer, conducting sloppy experiments, fabricating data, sabotaging the work of non-Chinese, stealing the ideas and data from non-Chinese, etc. They then leverage their fraudulent “accomplishments” (and in the case of one Chinaman I knew, writing letters of recommendation for himself and then forging the signatures of PIs on them) to get academic positions, becoming PIs themselves. At this point, not only do they continue their lying and cheating, but they also only hire Chinese, only collaborate with Chinese, and give excessively positive manuscript and grant reviews to fellow Chinese (while giving unfairly poor reviews to others, particularly to Whites).  These self-reinforcing processes, continuing year after year, are what results in the outcomes so beloved of HBDers like Engelman.

Hail Tom Cotton!  That is the most beautiful thing I’ve heard an American politician state in decades.  Beautiful!  Let’s do it!  Cotton for President!


Typical flubro:

Jason ChapmanWell your fear doesn’t trump my freedom. My children won’t have a country left if we let people like you continue to make decisions. The mortality rate is bellow 1% and you want to continue to keep America closed. You must not pay much in taxes I presume.

Bellow?


Anyway…note how folks like this never complain about “my freedom” when the government tells them who they can or cannot live among, who they can or cannot rent to or sell their home to, who their children have to go to school with, no murmurs about “my freedom” when free speech and free association get thrown out the reason to satisfy Colored/Jew/SJW demands.  No sir, when Colored barks, Whitey obeys, when Jews order, Whitey obeys. But have a lockdown during a pandemic and then, by golly, your fear doesn’t trump my freedom!  No sir!  Now, let me show my house to this nice Black couple with 50 children who are going to buy it with government subsidies. I really don’t want to sell to them, but, hey, what can you do? After that Section Eight housing was built next door, against the wishes of the neighborhood, I gotta sell!  And with the Blacks being bused into my kids’ school, my children are getting assaulted on a daily basis, and when I complained I got called a racist, fired, and my Twitter was deleted and my YouTube channel disappeared – but your fears don’t trump my freedom!  Freedom!


Surprise!   Counter-Currents commentator:

I was watching the debate with JF on Youtube, and Greg is offering a really weak showing on the data front. This is irritating because the data is on his side.

That’s the consequence of affirmative action.  Merit doesn’t matter.

This is Der Movement:

StronzaPosted April 28, 2020 at 8:06 pm | Permalink@Reb.

10th: Viruses don’t cause disease (cluster of symptoms). Their appearance in your body is a reflection of your overall health (“immunity” is one aspect of this.)

Blaming “germs” (viruses/bacteria, etc.) for one’s health problems is childish. Right up there with “evil spirits” of the past, to be cured by beating the tom-tom and uttering incantations; and, today, supposedly prevented by injecting a sickening list of chemicals. Time for everyone to grow up, to turn a page. Until this happens, we are sitting ducks for WHO, CDC, politicians, media, and every other party wanting to control the world.

Viruses don’t cause disease!  I issue the Stronza challenge: get injected with live rabies virus, and refuse all treatment. It is, after all, childish, akin to “beating the tom-tom and uttering incantations,” to think anything bad will happen.  After all, the appearance of rabies symptoms after transmission of this virus from one infected mammal to another is just a coincidence – it’s the “overall health” of the mammal that causes the disease.  Let’s ignore all of the White man’s science since the late 19th century so we can indulge a bunch of cranks.

Der Movement – perhaps thankfully – is NEVER going to make headway among educated and sane people as along as it allows deranged cranks a forum – folks who tell us that viruses don’t cause disease and yet assert that all non-human animal life is going to be soon wiped off the face of the Earth by “bullets flying everywhere.”


Note – Greg Johnson allows “Stronza” to comment on his moderated blog, but “bans” me.  That’s all the evidence you need to prove to you that Johnson is a grifting fraud.


This is Der Movement, exemplified by another commentator:

This Virus is eugenic, cleaning up an overpopulated planet of it’s deadwood. Who die from this virus? The elderly, the obese, the unhealthy and weak. It is perfectly eugenic, removes useless consumers, it is good for the environment. It should be allowed to run rampant. The more it kills the better it would seem to me.

All of these commentators need to get the story straight.  How can the virus be eugenic if it doesn’t cause disease?  Meanwhile, Johnson answers this comment, but not Stronza’s. Does he agree with the latter?  Inquiring minds want to know.


Babe Ruth.  Ty Cobb.  Lou Gehrig.  Men.  And then you have Milady’s contribution to the great sport of baseball.  What would we all do without Milady?  Joan of Arc, Joan of Arc, a lesbian love affair for my Joan of Arc!


This is beautiful!  Black Man – rise up against your Yellow Chinese oppressor!  Asia belongs to The Original Black Man!  China is The Promised Land for the Black African!  It is time for the proud African to migrate en masse to China and take what is rightfully yours!  You cannot steal from the Chinaman – everything he has is rightfully yours.  Take it back! China is by right part of Africa!

We gotta have dat dere globalist capitalism!  Libertarianism!  Mises!  The free flow of capital!

Yet More Odds and Ends

In der news.

See this.   Remember, Zturd says concern about all of this is “alarmist madness.”

Hail Zturd!  Hail Der Movement!  Hail!

A free online ”scholarly” journal about “Fascism” – so entitled.  A leftist System perspective – may be informative, certainly will be amusing.

Behold capitalism!  More “sweet business deals,” I suppose.  Then we wonder why the American health care system is such a wreck.

How about that – Jeelvy and I 100% agree on something:

Nicholas R. Jeelvy

Posted March 20, 2020 at 2:48 am | Permalink

The Chinese state is what it is, but the Han are a disgusting race of unhygienic, Mammon-worshipping bugmen. Their repulsive dietary habits are to blame for not only Corona, but also the Spanish flu and the Black Death.

Most pandemics in the world can be traced back to a Han eating, or a Bantu fucking a known disease carrier.

Quite right.  And yet Zturd thinks this is all “alarmist madness” and we shouldn’t be doing anything about it; indeed, he and his acolytes mock and ridicule the epidemiological paradigm of “flattening the curve.” Simply astonishing.

By the way, all those people who die of other causes because the health care system is saturated with China Plague victims should also be considered as having been MURDERED by the Chinese “people.”

Kabaservice says the tendency of GOP voters and officials to downplay the risk partly reflects Trump’s initially dismissive messaging about the crisis. But it may also relate to a deeper ideological suspicion of scientists, the media, and subject-matter experts within the federal government.

“This is something we’ve gone through a while here among Republicans,” Kabaservice says. “The feeling increasingly is that experts and the media are all part of this elite class that is self-dealing and is looking down on less-educated and less-fortunate people, and [that] they can’t be trusted to tell the truth.” He adds, “That dynamic … has been reinforced” by the emergence of the “conservative media ecosystem,” which unstintingly presents “elites” as a threat to viewers.

Rather than “Republican dad script”  I’d just call it the typical “Der Right script” – anti-science, anti-empiricism, a reverse snobbery against experts, framing everything as a leftist conspiracy, obsessed with economics over people, an extreme solipsism that confuses belief and faith with reality, and an extreme allergy for fact-checking, with the consequence of being wrong about just about everything.  But, hey, Zturd knows more than Fauci, so let’s take the “party on” advice.

And don’t start quoting HBDers as “proof” that the Right embraces science – HBD, and most of what passes for rightist “science” – is not science, but a secular religion, a fossilized dogma, pure pseudoscience.  Instead of worshipping the god of the bible, the Chinese are worshipped instead.  Same difference. As I’ve written before, the Right’s close association with religion and “tradition” have much to do with its hatred of, and complete misunderstanding of, and practical rejection of, science and empiricism. Anti-elitist, anti-government, anti-intellectual, reactionary, libertarian strains of “thought” make every expert suspect to this mindset – genuine expertise is scorned as “credentialism” and any person’s private opinion becomes conflated with objective reality.

The kind of folks who downplay The China Plague (emphasis added):

...the Senate Intelligence Committee chairman sold stock in mid-February that he knew would take a hit due to the coronavirus pandemic. And while Burr downplayed the threat of the coronavirus publicly, NPR obtained a recording of him privately warning of its dangers.

“There is one thing about this,” Burr is heard saying in the recording, “it is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything we have seen in recent history. It’s probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic.”

The 1918 pandemic to which Burr is referring is estimated to have killed between 50 million and 100 million people worldwide.

Carlson slammed Burr not only for insider trading, but also for not warning the public about how dangerous the coronavirus actually is.

“Burr”…heh.

This is HBD (and please note the Yellow Fever connection, once again confirming the psychosexual connections between Yellow Fever and HBD) (emphasis added):

Jud Jackson

Posted March 20, 2020 at 9:02 am | Permalink

This is all very troubling for me. I am a white American: 50% English, 25% Irish and 25% German. There aren’t too many people whiter than me.

But we all know the Chinese IQ is 105, 5 points smarter than we are. We also know that Chinese living in America have lower crime rates, higher IQs, and are more sexually restrained than we are. I think the work of J. P. Rushton would back me up 100% on all of this. I worked as an engineer in America for 23 years and my experience with Chinese engineers was that they were smarter than me, very kind to me, and all and all excellent engineers (better than I was and I wasn’t that bad).

On the other hand, Mao was the worst mass murderer of the 20th Century. My first serious girlfriend was from Taiwan. She hated Mao and her parents left the mainland in 1949 or so just as Mao was taking over. It didn’t work out with her but she was very ladylike, anti-feminist, and I don’t regret at all the two years we were together. I also knew some delightful Chinese ladies in Engineering School at Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo.

So I don’t quite get it calling Chinese scum and so on. Their government may indeed be aweful but is it much worse than ours? Did they drop atomic bombs on the Japanese? Did they firebomb Dresden Germany and kill thousands of white German Civilians? No, we did that. Or at least our government did.

I can’t claim to be an expert on the virus, but I do read articles about it every day. I certainly wouldn’t put it past our government to have generated the Covid virus but I really don’t know.

Translated: The Chinese are our betters and masters.  I pitfully grovel before The Altar of Asia. I’m obsessed with East Asian females and my idea of heaven is to be pegged by a buck-toothed, flat-chested, greasy-haired Chinatrix for all eternity.  And by the way, America is much worse than China and probably invented Covid-19 to torment the intelligent and honorable Chinese.  Hail HBD!

More HBD pseudoscientific crap.  The coronavirus crisis, if nothing else, is doing a marvelous job discrediting HBD, not only the worshipping of the Chinese, but I suspect that as the virus spreads in Europe (and Africa), the Frost-Welton narratives about viral susceptibility will be increasingly discredited as well.  We’ll see. Once things become clearer I hope to discuss those issues here.  As regards that Amren piece, it is all hand-waving “just so” stories, promoting the Alliance’s narratives.

The female economy adjusts to social distancing rules.  Milady is certainly adaptive!

To get a better grasp of the Chinese, and of East Asians in general, please read this; excerpts, emphasis added:

COVID-19 first appeared in China sometime in November of 2019.  One theory of the virus’ inception is that it came from a Chinese “wet market, ” where live animals are sold in the open, including dogs, cats, fox pups, koalas, bats, and other “meats” that are uncommon to Europeans. Whether or not this theory proves to be factual remains to be seen. However, no matter where the virus originated, the barbaric practices of the dog meat trade, among others, should not be ignored. If nothing else comes from the wet market theory, we should understand the Chinese are radically alien people who do not leave their customs at the border when they arrive in Europe or the United States. Pets have been found on countless occasions at these open-air markets; kittens and pups with collars and name tags are not uncommon. These practices, along with other anti-nature barbarisms such as shark-finning, are common throughout all of China, Korea, Japan, and the rest of Asia. These are not the type of people I want as neighbors under any circumstances.

HBD says that East Asians are our betters and masters – all hail Asia and all pitifully grovel – measured groveling, eh? – before The Altar of Asia.

With that said, the hostile media and diaspora Asians living in the U.S. and Europe have, on some level, picked up on this sentiment. There was general disgust at the revelation for many people at the types of “food” the Chinese and others were eating, along with the horrific methods of preparing the “food,” such as skinning and boiling dogs and cats while alive. Then there were legitimate examples of early “social distancing” on public transit, to which Asians noticed and took offense. Some of the reports from the mainstream media:

Colored is as colored does. After all, COLORED, TROPICAL, ANTI-ARCTIC aliens become very easily offended.  Are East Asians even more unlike Whites than are sub-Saharan Africans?  Derbyshire weeps bitter tears.

After Italy took reasonable precautions, like ending flights to and from China, a group of Chinese nationals in Italy put on a display of sorts called, “I’m not a virus. I’m a human. Eradicate the prejudice.” At this display, a Chinese man offered “free hugs” to help end so-called xenophobia (the fear of the stranger). Shortly thereafter, over 1,800 Italians are dead from COVID-19, all of Italy is on lockdown, Spain and France have followed suit, and the number of Europeans infected continues to skyrocket. 

It seems more and more clear that the Chinese intentionally infected Europe.  They are conducting a remorseless war of genocidal extermination against Whites, who do absolutely nothing in response.

Then came the day-to-day terror from the diaspora Asian community in what they found to be good-natured humor to combat “racism.” A viral tweet with over 200,000 likes read, “Coughing real loud on the subway today to see who’s racist.” Another Asian living in the U.S. decided to more explicitly harass a passenger, by coughing towards them, in a viral video with over 380,000 likes. Min, the Asian Twitter user, then went on to berate the woman for racism and stupidity, finally claiming she was the victim of discrimination because the woman covered her face and eventually moved away. 

Imagine if Blacks were doing this with Ebola – the HBDers and “race realists” would be foaming at the mouth for months, writing pseudo-erudite articles about “Black psychopathic behavior.” Never mind if afrowops did anything like this – the priapistic excitement among the HBDers would last for years.  But here?  Move on, move on, there’s nothing to see here.  HBD is a political movement with the objective of enslaving Whites to Asian (and Jewish) interests.

Former presidential hopeful Andrew Yang, in a tweet ostensibly covering for his fellow Asians, wrote: “The fear of the coronavirus is likely to be as or more destructive than the virus itself.” 

Yang – you know the guy that some Alt Righters were endorsing for President, for which they were criticized here. Sallis, right again. Der Movement, wrong again.  I’m shocked, shocked I say!

People are dead. They are dead because of a disease that came from China, yet Asians living in White nations are more concerned people might gaze at them too long or move away from them. 

Asians are a psychopathic, TROPICAL, colored race.  Derbyshire’s “Arctic Alliance” is a discredited joke. Hopefully, everyone understands the reason why Derbyshire promoted that nonsense. If Derbyshire was married to a White woman, and had White children, do you think the words “Arctic Alliance” would have ever been spewed from his lips, or emanated, like a vile substance, from his fingertips at his computer keyboard?

People have lost loved ones, and Asians think this is some sort of joke…

I (who know Asians very well) have been telling you here for weeks that the Chinese (and other Asians) are laughing at us over this.  I’m serious my friends. There is a reason I always write that the existential meaning of Asians is hatred of Whites. The unfettered, exuberant, exultant joy felt by Asians over the deaths of Whites caused by this virus is a shocking spectacle to behold. To them it ia joke. The Yellow Fist of Hatred slaps away the weak and insipid White Hand of Friendship.  When will we see The White Fist of Hatred?

…or that perhaps they are the real victims here at the hands of White people who have a bit of their self-preservation instinct left. 

They want Whites to die.

The first instance of COVID-19 in the United State was a Chinese man who returned on or about January 14, 2020, after visiting family in Wuhan, China. [14] China reported the virus to the World Health Organization on December 31, 2019, and had documented the novel virus since sometime in November. 

So, just like in Italy, the Chinese knowingly seeded coronavirus in America after the disease had been known to be raging in The Land of the Gods. The Chinese are conducting biological warfare against humanity. In response, humanity does nothing.

More than ever, this is clear evidence that our current elite must be replaced with those who have their sights not on today’s stock index

That leaves out Zturd.

…but eternity. Those who are not going to concern themselves with the feelings of alien interlopers (who already have their own homelands)…

That leaves out the HBDers.

This is Der Movement:

Carte Blanche
It pains me to see red-pilled White Americans who know the media is lying and gaslighting us into total submission fall for this Virus Hoax. President Trump calling it the “invisible enemy” is more profound than he knows!!

Sure!  All the deaths in Italy, Spain, etc. – all a hoax!  The spread in Europe – a hoax!  Fauci’s 19 hr days are just him on the computer surfing webporn sites!  All a hoax!  A beautiful side effect of this crisis – the complete discrediting of Type I “movement activism.”

Watch this.  Political maneuvering at its finest.  One can spectacle that similar happens among Quota Queen infighting in Der Movement.  Note the involvement of cocaine in the episode, and then consider Pilleater’s accusations of cocaine use in Der Movement.  Of course, in Der Movement, the Negress would be replaced by a Chinatrix – “verbal abuse and colonic irrigation, “ indeed.  That’ll induce some “measured groveling,” no doubt.

Update to Strategic Planning

Consequences of The China Plague.  Another riposte to Zturd and other news.

See this.  All of my advice broadly remains the same but recent events have underscored the increased importance of electoral politics. The strategy outlined in the linked post mostly should remain the same except a significantly greater emphasis should be placed on electoral politics, and that change is most salient in the case of a Trump victory.

After all, in the Trump loss scenario, I already stress the importance of electoral politics, although even there it should be stressed more than what I have previously discussed.  But in the Trump victory scenario I de-emphasized electoral politics, at least to a relative extent, and I am considering whether that needs to change in light of The China Plague and its possible consequences.

There’s a good possibility that White Americans (and of course Europeans as well) are going to be more skeptical of globalism, more open to border control, less welcoming to foreigners, less patient with the type of hysterical SJWism that considers hurt Asian feelings more of a priority than dead White Americans, more anti-Chinese, more open to economic populism, more desperate and willing to listen to alternative voices.

The shattered landscape that may result from this, the illness and death, the wrecked economy and resultant mass economic dislocation, the unemployment, the bitterness, the demand for answers and accountability – and the easy connection of the tragedy to multiracial globalism – are all part of a fertile ground for right-wing populism. Trump or no Trump, this needs to be ruthlessly exploited.  Unfortunately the majority of the Far Right is ill-suited to do so, as it is actually promoting paradigms the opposite of what is needed, it promotes China worship, blaming White Americans, bizarre HBD theories, coronavirus denial, and blaming the response to The China Plague for the all of the damage.

Der Right in its broadest sense is self-destructing, but there are healthy elements within it.  Some are racial nationalist.  Some are – and I have to admit it – civic nationalist (Carlson for example).  The proper response will have to come from these healthy sectors of the Right.

Maybe Tucker Carlson should run for office. Tucker, it’s not enough to criticize the political class and the media, you need to focus your attention to those on the Right, including and especially the HBDers, who literally worship China and the Chinese. And don’t criticize “identity politics” per se.  It’s here to stay – time for Whites to practice it. That, by the way, is what the HBDers really fear, with certain Levantine HBD aliens asserting that White nationalism is the greatest danger to America. Uh huh. Tells you where they are coming from, no?

Fauci is of course being attacked by various peanut gallery types. Surprisingly, I haven’t read any ethnic attacks against Fauci yet; e.g., “he’s a racially mixed Italian who is hysterically gesticulating about coronavirus because he’s concerned about his own Near Eastern ‘Fertile Crescent’ ancestry.”  That’s no doubt coming.  But for now we get nonsense about how Fauci is a “shill” because he – gasp! – testified that vaccines are safe and he has done work on HIV.  And, as we know, Der Right believes that vaccines are sodomizing our babies and giving them autism, while HIV has nothing to do with AIDS whatsoever.  It’s all a Big Pharma conspiracy.  Mysteriously for these types, statins and Adderall are not part of the Big Pharma conspiracy, no doubt because many of the peanut gallerians are statin-addicted fatsos with lazy and dumb kids (amphetamines are helpful to pass exams, don’t you know). Another attack against Fauci is asking why he is getting so “hysterical” now compared to H1N1 a decade ago. The “answer” you see is that his wife was “hired by the Obama administration,” so it is obviously a dastardly political conspiracy. This 79 year old man is working 19 hour days simply to “get Trump.” Dat right!  Actual differences between coronavirus and H1N1 have nothing at all to do with it, no sir!  


Zturd:

Today we are seeing the same argument. In order to “flatten the curve” we need to obliterate what’s left of civil life. We have to hand to the state the power to shutter businesses, lock people in their homes and reorganizes [sic] society as they see fit. The price of flattening the curve will be a never-ending war on civil life by a thoroughly corrupt ruling class. So no, it is not just the flu bro. It is not about the stock market or the economy either. It is about what comes after the flu decades after it is gone.

My riposte: And what should we be doing instead?  I’m not denying that some of what Zturd asserts as long term consequences may come to pass. Actually it will eventually come to pass, but for non-virus reasons he ignores (see below). What’s the alternative? Trump could have of course stuck to his original course of action, which is to basically invoke some travel restrictions and blather stupidities. The infections and cases would pile up, health care resources would be stretched, and we’d end up like Italy. Very well. You could make a hardcore case for enduring that level of pain for what Zturd would consider long term social and political benefits. But if followed, that course of action would have lowered Trump’s chances of re-election to zero. Zturd would argue in response that this is part of the problem – that Americans should be willing to “tough it out” without politically punishing Trump for that decision.  Maybe so.  But, you know, the significant fraction of the American population middle-aged and older may not want to die because of a virus manifested because your Chinese gods are inept filthy animals. Letting semi-retarded, hysterically SJW Millennials “inherit the Earth,” sociopolitically speaking, will be an outcome. Letting a significant fraction of the more conservative voters get infected, with risk of death, with the more leftist fraction of the population left standing, is not a recipe for success either.

What makes Zturd so disgustingly reprehensible – besides free-riding on the “alarmist” decisions – is a lack of a reasonable alternative.  Zturd projects the dystopian future resulting from “flattening the curve.”  He may well be right about that. However, he doesn’t project the equally dystopian future resulting from doing nothing. Unlike the retard Zturd, I’m aware that we’re damned either way. In retrospect, we could have instituted less stringent methods much earlier, tried for containment to the extent possible, with much more targeted lockdowns only in restricted “hot” areas. This was not done. 

And Zturd’s comment about “decades” in the future is ludicrous.  Demographic changes in America assure that his dystopian future will come to pass, unless there are drastic changes.  The shallow retard writes:

…a never-ending war on civil life by a thoroughly corrupt ruling class.

Umm…that’s what we have now, even before The China Plague. Even if Trump wins in 2020, 2024 looms around the corner. Eventually, if we stay on our current trajectory, we’ll have a President Ocasio-Cortez or a President Abrams.  It’s coming, regardless of the “alarmist” anti-virus measures in place now. That’s a certainty. Doing nothing about The China Plague is just as likely – or perhaps more so – to hasten that day as compared to doing too much. Maybe wrecking the social order will help or hurt in the long run – who knows?  But business as usual, with the trends “baked in the cake,” assures us of “a never-ending war on civil life by a thoroughly corrupt ruling class.”  If he’s so stupid not to realize that, he’s beyond hope. If that’s coming if we do nothing, I’d rather try and save White lives and roll the dice on the long term political outcome. If we had a real movement instead of Zturd-like jackasses, right-wing populism could take advantage of the societal chaos following in the wake of The China Plague. That such does not exist is the fault of trash like Zturd, not me.


When considering Zturd’s breathless account of the consequences of addressing The China Plague, one should remember some of the other exercising of government power in American history – military drafts, suspension of habeas corpus, mass confiscation of private property (“freeing slaves”), Civil Rights Act, New Deal, internment camps, etc.  During the 1918 China Plague, in some cities police were shooting people who refused to wear a face mask in public. A never-ending war on civil life!  


We’ll be told that there’s a practical reason to be more concerned now – the “ruling class” is more alien and corrupt than ever. Indeed it is.  But here’s another practical consideration – following Zturd’s advice would alter Trump’s chances of losing to Biden from somewhat probable to absolutely certain. More practical considerations – a disease that disproportionately kills older Americans will more quickly shift America to being more non-White and more leftist.


Zturd is just being a self-righteous contrarian jackass. The reality is that this is an impossible situation to know for certain what course of action will yield the best possible outcome. What is certain is that Zturd’s feared dystopia will happen regardless of what Trump does or does not do, it’ll just be a bit quicker one way as compared to another. Most likely, Zturd’s advice will make it happen quicker, but we are really screwed either way.

See this.

Quite right.  Zturd represents all that is wrong with Der Right.  I’ll say it again – there’s no “optimal” outcome here.  Thanks to Der Movement’s Chinese Gods – who, like gods, seem immune to criticism from their worshippers – we are in a “lose-lose” situation.  Doing what is necessary will severely damage the economy and, yes, expand government power at a time when that government (under your “God Emperor” by the way) has never been more hostile to White Americans.  Engaging in retarded virus denial, and doing nothing, would eventually lead to Italy-like conditions, disproportionately sicken and kill off the most White and most conservative age cohort of the population, absolute ensure President Biden (which may well happen anyway), completely discredit the political Right, and make (White) America a laughingstock to the world, supporting Yellow Supremacist narratives – “look how China got it under control, but America failed.” 

Again – the people to blame here are not Trump, Fauci, toilet paper hoarders, or “alarmists” on the Right, but instead the filthy Chinese “people” with their bat soup, eating live wild animals, wet markets, Wuhan biolarfare labs, selling infected lab animals to street vendors, hiding facts about the outbreak, etc.  It’s the Chinese who infected the world and now are blaming others; it’s the Chinese threatening to withhold medication from America and laughing at us that we’ll suffer a “hell of a coronavirus epidemic.”  But the HBDers, including Zturd, are very gentle with their Chinese Gods.  It’s that White guy buying toilet paper who’s at fault, damgummint!  HBD trash.

Well, well, well…look at this.

The most astonishing thing about the Globalvirus crisis is seeing how deep the free-market programming runs. Even people who are basically National Populists like Ramzpaul and the Zman have been running what I call the “Republican dad script,” minimizing the danger of the virus and worrying instead about protecting the economy from people who wish to protect their lives, and the lives of their loved ones. This “dad script” strikes me as equal parts alpha signaling and paternal concern for their 401Ks.

Republicans are not unreasonable in their suspicion that the Left — including the mainstream media — are using the Globalvirus against Trump. But that still doesn’t mean it is not a serious health problem.

This kind of thinking has consequences. Polling data indicates that Republicans are significantly more likely to minimize the dangers of Globalvirus than Democrats, which means that Republicans, as well as their friends and families, are more likely to get sick and die. It also means that Republicans are more likely to support ineffectual or tardy responses to the crisis, which will ensure that more people die.

The market will come back. The people who will die because of Republican greed and complacency will be gone forever.

Think of what it means that both Greg Johnson and I are in essential agreement on this issue, where we disagree on so much else. Now, that in itself does not “prove” anything, nor is it “evidence” of anything – after all, arguments have to be judged on their own merits, not merely on who supports them. On the other hand, this convergence is not meaningless either.  That people on the Right (broadly defined) who are so different both agree that Zturd is acting like an absolute jackass (Johnson doesn’t say it but it is in my opinion implied by “equal parts alpha signaling and paternal concern for their 401Ks”) should tell you something – especially since both Johnson and I make arguments against Zturd that can be judged by third party observers, arguments that in my opinion are more cogent than “do nothing and let the good times roll.”

And I must say again that those upset about the situation should really focus more of their ire on the Chinese rather than on people trying to save American lives. But, hey, we can’t have that. After all, we may offend and alienate some Chinatrix who has the incisors of a gopher, the physique of a toothpaste tube, and the hair of a black-furred oily muskrat.  What would the “awkward squad” do without their yellow beauties?

Meanwhile, in contrast to HBD lies, let’s look at some reality.

Chinese Biological Espionage

In March 2019, in mysterious event a shipment of exceptionally virulent viruses from Canada’s NML ended up in China. The event caused a major scandal with Bio-warfare experts questioning why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China.

Four months later in July 2019, a group of Chinese virologists were forcibly dispatched from the Canadian lab – the only level-4 facility equipped to handle the world’s deadliest diseases where Coronavirus sample from the first Saudi patient was being examined.

Xiangguo Qiu

The scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu.

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu is married to another Chinese scientist Dr. Keding Cheng – the couple is responsible for infiltrating Canada’s NML with many Chinese agents posing as students from a range of Chinese scientific facilities directly tied to China’s Biological Warfare Program.

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu made at least five trips to the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory located only 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market which is the epicenter of the outbreak.

The Canadian investigation is ongoing and questions remain whether previous shipments to China of other viruses or other essential preparations, took place from 2006 to 2018, one way or another.

The Chinese are murdering humanity.  The Chinese people are engaged in a remorseless war of extermination against the Italian people, who pitifully respond to this genocidal attack by “singing on balconies.” China and the Chinese people are an existential threat to all humanity.

Meanwhile, while most people will eventually see the Zturdites for what they are, we can discern how the Zturdites will try and hand wave the outcome of their predictions within Der Movement/Der Right itself.  Let’s consider the possibilities.

1. If the virus actually fizzles out in the warmer weather and does not return, the Zturdites will point to that as vindication, and there’s not much to answer that with, other than that their logic was wrong but that events turned out to support that flawed logic.  But if they’re right, they’re right.

2. If the virus continues and is serious, but if all of the more severe measures taken against it are successful in blunting its impact, the Zturdites will interpret that as being the same as outcome #1 and will pretend that the public health measures had nothing to do with the outcome.

3. If – even with severe measures – the virus has a very serious health impact, if it spreads worldwide, even in those places the HBDers assert will be relatively immune to it, even if everything goes 100% against the Zturdites and the HBDers, they will not admit to being wrong.  Instead, they’ll adopt the Gaslighting Greg strategy of completely ignoring what they wrote before. It will be as if it never happened – down the memory hole!  They’ll just ignore the whole thing, with Zturd blathering some ”badder thoughts” about “Lagos” or “Biden’s dementia” while the HBDers will sweatily gibber about Hajnal lines and high trust northern hunter gatherers.  Coronavirus?  We don’t need to hear about any stinkin’ coronavirus!


A Zturdite type at Amren writes:

Enoch Powell  The virus itself would have very little economic impact. It is the massive overreaction to it by government and the media which is destroying our economy. The Wuhan Coronavirus is a pathogen with a mortality rate only slightly higher than the seasonal flu. It spares children and is a serious threat to life to only the very old and infirm. Not the sort of thing that should be shutting down entire nations. One has to wonder if the mainstream Media has a political motivation to foster panic and wreck the economy during an election year with a sitting Republican President who they desperately want to get rid of.

Let’s dissect this:

Enoch Powell  

Pretentious idiot. 

The virus itself would have very little economic impact. 

Until health care resources are overwhelmed and people start dying.

It is the massive overreaction to it by government and the media which is destroying our economy. 

What your solution?  Do nothing?  Please outline an alternative strategy, keeping in mind what is happening in Italy, which had an initial weak reaction to the threat.

The Wuhan Coronavirus is a pathogen with a mortality rate only slightly higher than the seasonal flu. 

Outright lie based on current data.  Let’s see. Of the current estimates of mortality, on the low side, it is 10-fold higher and on the high side more than 30-fold higher.  I’m not sure that a 10-30-fold higher mortality is “only slightly higher.”  Even if you want to postulate a large number of unknown mild cases that will drive down the mortality rate, the fact is we’ll still have the same overall numbers of severe cases that can overwhelm health care resources. Or should we just let the severe cases die without intervention?

It spares children and is a serious threat to life to only the very old and infirm. 

“Only” – not true.  Unless you consider “very old” to be anyone over 50-60+…anyway, this crisis is very informative about the “Die Boomer” mentality of youth.  Sometimes, like the 1918 Chinese Flu, it are the young who are more affected.  What goes around comes around.

Not the sort of thing that should be shutting down entire nations. 

If less stringent measures were put in place earlier, the more stringent measures would not be needed now.

One has to wonder if the mainstream Media has a political motivation to foster panic and wreck the economy during an election year with a sitting Republican President who they desperately want to get rid of.

It’s all a conspiracy!  The Italians are dropping dead just to spite Trump.  European nations are closing borders – despite their inner SJW urges to keep them wide open – just to spite Trump.  Idiot.  Blame everyone except your Chinese gods.  

Italians please note (red font emphasis added):

Fourth, and rarely mentioned, is that Italy today is evidently home to a large Chinese community (more than 300,000), made up of people who arrived in the past two decades and who work in the textile and leather sector. Many of the Chinese living in Italy are from Wuhan and Wenzhou, and some had just been in Wuhan and Wenzhou for the Chinese New Year on January 25, when the Chinese authorities could not hide the epidemic any longer. These Chinese had returned to Italy from China before the Italian government suspended flights from there. The epidemic emerged in Lombardy; Bergamo, one of the capitals of the Italian textile industry, was one of the first cities affected.

That is, the Chinese came back to Italy knowing that there was a highly contagious epidemic in China, thus knowing they could seed Italy with the plague, killing Italians and turning the nation into a charnel house.  THEY KNEW IT.  That’s not the “crazy and bitter and paranoid” Ted Sallis saying it – others are saying it as well. Then we have the spectacle of Chinese “tourists” visiting Italy during the outbreak in China as well.  Italian apologists for the Chinese, please explain these facts. Also, please justify the “hug an Asian” campaign promoted by the genocidal killers of Beijing and enabled by leftist traitors in Italy.  Please explain why the statement “the Chinese people are conducting a remorseless campaign of genocidal extermination against the Italian people” is wrong.  Please explain what the Italian people are going to do about it other than “sing on balconies” or having their “Air Force” (sic) fly around blasting music and spewing out red-white-green contrails.  Since EGI Notes is a pacifist blog, unalterably opposed to any and all – any and all I say! – violence whatsoever, you will not find this blog suggesting that the Italian Air Force bomb Chinese neighborhoods in Italy.

By the way, note that the HBDers don’t like to mention that the Italian crisis is in large part due to the Chinese, but instead focus on “Fertile Crescent” ancestry in Italy. Italians, please don’t expend all your hate on the Chinese, please save some for the HBD trash as well.