Category: Greece

Another Answer to Retardation

He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do.

As regards this issue, see the comment below. I don’t agree with every detail, but the main thrust is generally in accord with my views, and the points to which I agree with most are highlighted. I am not correcting the various errors of writing or formatting; those are minor issues of no great relevance to the main themes of the comment.

GrandioseNationalist
Posted July 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Another Nordicist who tries to “preach” us about history. This thing never ends; always trying to find artificial excuses to undermine Southern European contribution to Europe and further divide Europeans based on some outdated ideology. There’s a reason why the Star Systems and planets have Greek and Roman names and not Norse ones. See now how we’ve engaged in this fruitless debate that only serves our demise?
Furthermore all White Nationalists have to keep in mind a few things:
a) It’s not Greeks that have Turkish DNA but instead it’s the Turks that have Greek ancestry (along with other ethnic backgrounds). There is virtually no research or proof that shows that Greeks have Turkic ancestry. All racially mixed offsprings were either absorbed into the Turkish society or the Christian Orthodox women would commit suicide or murdered and shunned by their families before having kids with the “Muslim Oppressor”.
b) The Ancient Greeks had this ancient motto knows as “pas mi Hellen varvaros” which means “all non-Hellenes are barbarians”. Although there were some exception among the lines of the Persian, Celtic, and Roman kindred, Greeks shared an equal hatred even for each other (Spartans vs Athenians, etc.). Alexander was no exception, as the man who civilized the East.
c) Nordicist ideology has contaminated our tenets for more than a century and has only served to divide and conquer us, by placing basis on an abstract sub-racial division. There are Nordics common in all European nations just as there are Meds in Britain and Ireland.

c) Although not directly related to this article, it is vital to acknowledge that Pan-Europeanism is our only way out. When the Southern States, Southern And Northern Europe get overrun by migrants we ‘re gonna have to unite in a way that has never been done before. The US showed that White intermixia and nationhood is perfectly feasible and desirable if we proceed carefully step by step to that direction (that has already been happening for centuries now; look at us for example). It sure as hell didn’t lead to chaos and anarchy as some Ethnonationalists would wish. Now I’m saying this as someone who is of pure ethnic stock and has reached to that conclusion after lots of consideration and the studying of history.

The SYSTEM doesn’t give a penny or two about whether you’re Anglo-Celtic, Greek, Nordic, or what. All they see is a White person, and they attack our Whiteness because that’s the essence of our identity.

NATIONALISM is evolutionary: it extends for the POLIS to the REGION to the COUNTRY and eventually to the WHOLE RACE. By simply making a regression to these patterns would mean to be forced to repeat this endless loop of factricidal war and foreign infiltration. The Athenians would’ve objected to be united with the Spartans under the “generic definition” of the Greek, and they’d want to keep their “individual differences and have their separate ways”. Now that Greece is united, do you see any war between the two? Now they’re just Greeks and nothing else.

In less then two centuries time we’ll see the salvation of the White Race come to fruition under a life-saving fusion of all those who are Called Europeans akin to that in the US; under a centralized transcontinental state . Think on that.

The major problem with this well-meaning fellow is that he is wasting his time. He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do; he’ll get more of a useful response if he was addressing a pile of bricks.

It doesn’t matter that there is no evidence supporting the Counter-Currents viewpoint, it doesn’t matter that ancient DNA studies have so far refuted Kemp, none of that matters. When you are dealing with blind religious faith, facts do not matter and logic does not matter.  There is no place in Der Movement for pan-Europeanists, just as there is no place for Southern and Eastern Europeans. The Type Is have always had a stranglehold on control of the American “movement” and they will continue to hold on; if you want change, you’ll have to do it yourself by contributing to the formation of a new, alternative racial nationalist structure, a Type II-led movement.

I want to comment on this picture, much beloved by Nordicists. By modern phenotypic standards, we may say, subjectively, that Terentius Nero had an atypical phenotype. Very well.  So what?  That’s not evidence supporting that he was not of indigenous stock.  We do not know the range of indigenous phenotypes of ancient Italy.  For all we know, Nero’s phenotype  may have been common, at least among those of plebian stock, and may reflect Neolithic farmer ancestry. On the other hand, maybe he did have non-indigenous ancestry. Can you know any of that by looking at that one picture?  It’s not as if he looked like a Negro, a Chinaman, or David “Chopsticks” Bromstad, for example.

If you want to play the (frankly stupid) game of using single pictures to make snap judgments about an entire ethny, nation, people, or race, then what about this?  The ancient peoples of Italy were brown-skinned with black curly hair! Terentius the Etruscan!

This is the young Benito Mussolini, a representative of a people – Northern Italians – that Der Movement likes to tell us (absurdly) are “Celto-Germanic Nordics.” Judging by that picture, the typical Northern Italian male looks like the younger brother of General Mapache from The Wild Bunch.

By the standards of “one picture to judge a people,” I won’t get into what the Bromstad family, or Bjork, may tell us about Northern Germanics.

Meanwhile, on a completely different (of course!) matter, I’m working on a post or posts in which I am going to admit that Sallis was wrong about an issue concerning the “movement,” in contrast to certain academic types who were right.  Stay tuned!

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Counter-Currents Goes Full Retard

The Counter-Currents threat.

Absolute Nordicist crap coming from the HBD “West Coast White nationalism” Counter-Currents blog.

Today, less than half of Greek Y-chromosomes are of European origin…

Imbecilic.  Whose definition of “European Y chromosomes” are you using? 

See here.  Let me guess – NRY found at high levels in Northern Europe are “European.” Those found at higher levels in Southern Europe are – of course! – “non-European.”  In fact, note that while there are differing frequencies, on a qualitative level there is overlap between the major types between North and South.

The cities St. Paul visited in his missionary travels and to which he wrote – Corinth, Thessalonica, and Athens – were no more necessarily Greek than New York City is Dutch because Dutchmen lived there three hundred years ago.

The Kempian argument.  Unfortunately, population genetics doesn’t agree, as the ancient Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically most similar to modern Southern Europeans, including modern Greeks, with a major difference being that modern Greeks have some degree of Slavic admixture.

And then:

The results of mass immigration and racial intermarriage can be seen in portraits that survived the destruction of the Italian resort-town of Pompeii in the first century AD. By that time, Roman women were dying their hair blonde and using lead acetate to make their skin whiter, in an effort to mimic the appearance of the original Romans and the few surviving noble families. Regardless of what the citizenship rolls said at any given time, centuries of population transfer had made true Romans so rare as to be statistically insignificant.

In response, see this.  We have to await the official publication, but I doubt it’ll match Nordicist expectations. By the way, ancient Etruscan phenotypes represented at that time as shown here.

Counter-Currents is openly lying to you  

Counter-Currents is peddling the same rancid “movement” dogma, which is being disproved by science, and that has no historical validity whatsoever.

It is obvious that Counter-Currents is becoming a nexus of the worst aspects of the “movement” – sweaty ethnic fetishism, tin cup panhandling, homosexual apologia, and backwards “traditionalism.” The destructive nature of the Counter-Currents infestation of racial activism is going to have to be a focus of the EGI Notes agenda.  We’ll need to take a closer look at this den of grifters, HBD traitors, fetishists, and perverts.

More of the Marching Movement

In all cases, emphasis added.

Traditionalism:

HungarianFashionista

Posted January 5, 2019 at 6:08 am | Permalink

Lajos Kassai, one of the intellectual leaders of the Hungarian Right says this: someone’s true race is shown by the kind of archetypal image that stirs his soul. So true. Show me a sandy beach with palm trees, or an image of a rainforest, and to me, it could be on another planet. Show me Mediterranean or Nordic images, and I say, “Hm, nice”. But when I see an image of the steppe, it feels like coming home. I’m a descendant of White people who did not migrate to the West.

Hey, I like outer space images; hence, I’m a Martian.

And, we can ask – are there any hobbit holes on the steppe?  Well, hamsters and gerbils live on the steppe, with their snug burrows, so I suppose a Hungarian traditionalist can be snug in his steppe hobbit hole as well.

The Zman:

The Greeks are a bit different. I think it is because the West has so much more respect for the Greeks than the Romans. Maybe it is the fact the Greeks never conquered the world, like the Romans.

The history books I have read have left out the Roman conquest of Germania, Scandinavia, Scotland and Ireland, Eastern Europe, the rest of Asia other than the Near East, sub-Saharan Africa, Australia, the Americas, the Pacific Islands, etc.  Perhaps Mr. Zman can recommend a history text to us where those events are properly chronicled.

And the West will respect people who conquered less?  Maybe the West should have done a bit less colonization then?

I think we should have Carlson 2020 rather than anyone else.  But, hey, Tuck, it’s race and civilization, not “happiness.”

I recently watched the 1998 Moby Dick miniseries starring Patrick Stewart.  Very well done – it is recommended. Ahab is the ultimate Moralpath, and the story is a warning that pure moralpathy unleavened with pragmatism can lead to disaster.  On the other hand, pure pragmatism is doomed to failure and utter stagnation – it is worthless. Even further on the other hand, however destructive Ahab’s obsession turned out to be, it is much better than cowardly hiding from life and from the inexorable march to the future by hiding “snug in one’s hobbit hole,” letting other races do what Whites once dared.

I essentially agree with this.  The memes are more important than the source.  And that’s something the thin-skinned, hysterically womanish quota queens can never understand with their cordon sanitaire around EGI Notes.

An expert on female behavior tells us what’s what.  Next – commentary from Pee Wee Herman about weightlifting.

Maybe this is explained by all those “British Asians,” eh, Silkers?  I don’t understand why the HBD VDARE site has any problem with this.  Isn’t the lowly White subaltern race supposed to serve their “high, high-IQ” Oriental masters?  Maybe throw in some “measured groveling,” as well – right Derb?

The answer: Either Trump is the most incompetent, lazy, and low-energy President in US history, or he simply doesn’t care (or actually secretly supports the invasion).

But, hey, let’s not forget the Quota Kings (Coulter) and Queens: In Trump We Trust, the God Emperor, the last chance for White America, an American Caesar who will save White demographics.

Wrong, wrong, they’re always wrong.

Sallis in 2015: Trump is a fraud and a vulgar, ignorant buffoon.

Sallis – right, right, he’s always right.

How does a bearded man in a red pickup truck transform into a red-bearded man?

Can TOQ Live host Richard Spencer and Greg Johnson together?  Seriously.  Let them actually debate, instead of sniping.  Also, if TOQ is interested in “academic” style material, my recent refutation of leftist misinterpretations of Lewontin would fit the bill.  Ball in your court, gentlemen.  

Kemp Weeps: Greeks

Population genetics

Read this.  Emphasis added:

Now, ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans, with only a small proportion of DNA from later migrations to Greece. And the Mycenaeans themselves were closely related to the earlier Minoans, the study reveals, another great civilization that flourished on the island of Crete from 2600 B.C.E. to 1400 B.C.E. (named for the mythical King Minos).

Not surprisingly, the Minoans and Mycenaeans looked alike, both carrying genes for brown hair and brown eyes. Artists in both cultures painted dark-haired, dark-eyed people on frescoes and pottery who resemble each other, although the two cultures spoke and wrote different languages. The Mycenaeans were more militaristic, with art replete with spears and images of war, whereas Minoan art showed few signs of warfare, Lazaridis says. Because the Minoans script used hieroglyphics, some archaeologists thought they were partly Egyptian, which turns out to be false.

When the researchers compared the DNA of modern Greeks to that of ancient Mycenaeans, they found a lot of genetic overlapModern Greeks share similar proportions of DNA from the same ancestral sources as Mycenaeans, although they have inherited a little less DNA from ancient Anatolian farmers and a bit more DNA from later migrations to Greece. 

The continuity between the Mycenaeans and living people is “particularly striking given that the Aegean has been a crossroads of civilizations for thousands of years,” says co-author George Stamatoyannopoulos of the University of Washington in Seattle. This suggests that the major components of the Greeks’ ancestry were already in place in the Bronze Age, after the migration of the earliest farmers from Anatolia set the template for the genetic makeup of Greeks and, in fact, most Europeans. “

Community Activism Needed

Things to do.

A comment from AltRight.com brings up a subject I’ve been discussing ever since I was interviewed by Robert Griffin for his book – the need for “movement” activists to get involved in the community, help “normal” White folks, and thus build strong fundamental ties to Whites that will prove fruitful in both recruiting and drawing general support from the population when such support will be required.

Golden Dawn, a Greek nationalist movement, does a lot of community outreach for Greek people. The young women and men both see to it that no vulnerable Greek is without assistance. A drive to the doctor for an elderly person, a medicine or eyeglass campaign, a roof repair or a lawn mowed for an elderly man, new mothers assisted, etc. I understand Hezbollah does a similar outreach for their people. Builds love and tribal identity. Enforces bonds among the young and solidifies self-worth.

Rasse und Der Movement in Der News

Odds and ends.

This podcast was a lot better than the usual Alt Right material, reasonably professional and lacking in juvenile jackassery.  That’s probably because it is a European (Swedish) production, cohosted by an American (newly minted) lawyer.  Hopefully, this quality will continue.

When reading this, keep in mind that the “federal government” these days means Donald J. Trump. Dem dere refugees keep on coming though, don’t they? Of, we’ll be told that his “travel ban” is getting blocked.  Well, how about keeping the damn “refugees” in some sort of prison or concentration camp, instead of dumping them onto the good people of Tennessee?

But, but, but…I thought we were all exactly the same?  Emphasis added:

Glycated hemoglobin (HbA1c) is used to diagnose type 2 diabetes (T2D) and assess glycemic control in patients with diabetes. Previous genome-wide association studies (GWAS) have identified 18 HbA1c-associated genetic variants. These variants proved to be classifiable by their likely biological action as erythrocytic (also associated with erythrocyte traits) or glycemic (associated with other glucose-related traits). In this study, we tested the hypotheses that, in a very large scale GWAS, we would identify more genetic variants associated with HbA1c and that HbA1c variants implicated in erythrocytic biology would affect the diagnostic accuracy of HbA1c. We therefore expanded the number of HbA1c-associated loci and tested the effect of genetic risk-scores comprised of erythrocytic or glycemic variants on incident diabetes prediction and on prevalent diabetes screening performance. Throughout this multiancestry study, we kept a focus on interancestry differences in HbA1c genetics performance that might influence race-ancestry differences in health outcomes.

Objective, non-political, ethnically disinterested anthropological and genetic analysis at this website, no doubt.

As far as Catalonia goes, my opinion is if they want independence, give it to them, but it’s really an irrelevant issue in the last analysis.  What are they going to do with their vaunted independence and ethnonationalist sovereignty?  Import more alien immigrants and “refugees?”

Raciocultural Odds and Ends in a Failed Movement

Der Movement is a pathetic joke.

Very cognitive. Very elite.  It is incumbent on the HBDers (as well as the Silk Roaders) to explain to the rest of us why The Land of the Gods is a polluted and overcrowded dystopia whose wealthy want nothing more than to buy their way into US citizenship. Indeed, even the racially inferior, low-IQ swarthoid regions of Europe have a better overall living standard than does the smog-ridden sardine can of China. One finds Chinatowns in Italy but no Dagotowns in China.  Curious, that.  Maybe Breezy’s analyses of PISA scores, real estate, and golf courses can shed some light on that apparent paradox.

More cognitive elitism.  Never forget that GNXP stated they wanted “hundreds of thousands” of such cogelites to enter America every year.

Leftist professor advocates for White genocide.  Why hasn’t he been terminated by Drexel? Until such time that Drexel fires him, Whites should look elsewhere for college and White Drexel alumni should withhold donations.  Surely, if Drexel implicitly supports White genocide (which they do unless they take action – “free speech” arguments don’t hold water when “far-Right” speech is met with ripostes such as “speech has consequences, private institutions are not beholden to the First Amendment, and the constitutional right to free speech only applies to government regulation, not that speech should otherwise have no consequences”), then I see no reason why White kulaks need to support Drexel economically.

Interesting story.  Note that although the natives are now getting restless, they originally strongly supported the influx, and some still do.  But, but, but…I thought they are all non-hunter gatherer clannish ethnocentrics? What happened?  Note also British and Irish volunteers dumping Third Worlders into Greece, analogous to another story, previously chronicled at this blog, of Norwegians dumping Africans into Sicily (and an even earlier story of Germans doing something similar).  One can only imagine the hysterical howls of Der Movement outrage if those stories were reversed.  The reality, however, goes against the “movement’s” narratives and. as we well know, it is not only the MSM that has its Megaphone.

Pro-Trump hysteria in Der Movement jumps the shark as TOO of all places tries rationalizing the vehemently pro-Jewish and pro-Israel stance of a White public figure. Why, I don’t know, maybe the first thing such an article should note (if it were honest) is that Trump has children married to Jews, Jewish grandchildren, his daughter converted to Judaism, and his closest personal advisor is his Jewish son-in-law.  That’s not the whole story, to be sure, but, also surely, it is relevant?  TOO has not only jumped the shark, it has jumped Moby Dick as well.

The American “movement” – always defective and conformist – is losing whatever little ideological diversity it has had.  It is all converging onto a memetic point that is a strange mash-up of: Trump worship, Alt Wrong HBD “race realism,” flirtation with civic nationalism, Nordicism, “game,” and juvenile Alt Right millennial snarkery.  Indeed, the future of the American “movement” is best exemplified by the image of a weasel-faced Roissy sneering at us forever (while having sex with a Negress whose rear end “defies gravity”).

It’s time for a change.  Long overdue in fact.