Category: HBD as a political movement

Der Movement Never Disappoints

More nonsense.

See this.  And I’m a bit irritated that any ostensibly intelligent person could post something so manifestly illogical. Just because I criticize someone does not mean that I cannot reasonably comment about an instance where that person has been wronged, and note that the wrong is aimed not only at that specific person but at an entire class of individuals that this person represents.

I’m being restrained in my response here, since the tweet in question is just a typically female emotional comment. But Spencer should have known better than to repost it.

This is something that all of these guys – and Spencer’s buddy Johnson is really affected by this – cannot comprehend: Criticism from those on the same basic side that you are on does not have to be malicious, personal, or indicative of some deep-seated animus. Yes, the criticism may be sharp, it may reflect disgust and exasperation, and it may in fact call for your resignation from a leadership role in activism, but the criticism is based on a reaction to ideas and actions, and it is a consequence of your failures in your assumed leadership role. When leaders refuse to take responsibility for their errors and the damage those errors do, then they need to be held accountable by someone.  Granted, I do not expect leaders who cannot admit error to appreciate criticism, and it is clear that they do not. The criticism, however, is justified, regardless if it is rejected by those who are its targets.

Some dismiss Spencer suing the network because “he won’t win.”  Well, of course, he won’t win.  That is not the point. If the network and/or the specific individuals involved have to go through the trouble of defending against the suit, perhaps they’ll think twice before doing anything like this again. No money?  Yeah – how much could this haul provide?  

The only plausible argument is that no one would be willing to take the case, particularly since the outcome is a foregone conclusion.  The fault for that lies squarely on the doorstep of the “movement” – no infrastructure, no dedicated legal staff, no pro bono lawyers, nothing.

I was wondering how long it would take Der Movement to latch on to this.

They did not disappoint, with Durocher – writing for the anti-WN Jewish HBDer Unz – linking to that post for his own Nordicist screed.  Good stuff!  Certainly, a considered discussion of racial differences in Europe needs to be done in such a fashion, and in such a venue, that of a Jew.  Let’s use HBD, manipulated by Jewish interests, to feed into intra-European hostility. As I said, Der Movement certainly didn’t disappoint.  When given the choice of doing the right thing or the wrong thing, they always do the wrong thing.

The right thing is a dispassionate analysis, on forums run by Europeans, for the benefit of Europeans, forums rightly skeptical of the HBD hoax, and dedicated to real racial science.  An analysis that has as its ultimate objective deciding what’s best for all Europeans.  For example, one can look at the data and support some policy objectives that have been proposed here over the years – e.g., avoidance of European panmixia, and a realization that all of the different European ethnies, as they exist today, cannot be put on an equal footing economy-wise. We have seen in the EU what happens when Germany and Greece are fully integrated in the same economy and with the same currency.  It may be better to have a very general European economic zone, with autarky, but with nations maintaining their own economies and currencies. Also, of course, we need eugenics. Particularly for those ethnies that require the most improvement, eugenics is needed. And accountability.  We can’t have handouts going from the ants to the grasshoppers.

I’ll note as a counter-point to my original brain post that all of those big brains haven’t prevented “movement leadership” – consisting solely of NW Europeans – from being a bunch of raging incompetents, hyper-sensitive (hello, Greg!), and exhibiting the most outrageous piss-poor judgment imaginable (Trump, Alt Right, Tulsi Coconut, Yang Gang, Unite the Right, endless decades of utter failure, etc.).

Ironically enough, a classic example of bad judgment is anyone who considers themselves any sort of “White racial nationalist” or “White activist” writing for Unz to begin with. Even independent of whatever other differences of opinion I have with certain individuals, I have utter contempt for anyone who sells out to Unz.  There’s no going back from that.  They are aiding this Jew in his attempt to monopolize racial dissident discourse.  After all, the attempt of the Alt Right retards to monopolize WN worked out so well, now let’s have an anti-WN “Hispanic immigrants will lower our crime rate” Jew have a crack at it. This is race treason.  Are those thirty pieces of silver so important?

And if either (never mind both) of the two Kevins starts writing for Unz, my faith in humanity will be forever shattered – shattered I say! – and we should all shut up shop and start wearing yarmulkes. This is also consistent with my supposition that none of this would be happening if Pierce was still alive. None of these guys would be willing to risk the contemptuous scorn of the Sage of the Mountaintop. Post-Pierce, Der Movement resembles nothing so much as a bunch of teenagers left home alone for the weekend, and indulging in any and every stupid idea that passes through their “minds.”  And so it goes.

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Has Greg Johnson Gone Mad?

This is a serious question. 

Excerpts, emphasis added, and my replies:

White Nationalists need to understand exactly why I think Andrew Yang is important. 

And White nationalists need to understand exactly why I think Andrew Yang is an enemy of the White race, and why Yang’s supporters are also enemies of the White race.

White Nationalists supported Trump because he supported some policies that we also favor, principally immigration restrictions (including the border wall and the Muslim ban), protectionism, and an America first foreign policy. We think these policies are objectively good for the white majority.

I have no doubt that Trump was sincere about these policies when he announced them. 

Does Johnson really believe this, or is he just covering himself since he declared Trump as “sincere” back in 2016, at the same time I labeled Trump as a fraud?

He could have won the Republican nomination and the presidency without them. 

This is absolutely ludicrous.  Is Johnson really telling us here that if Trump campaigned as a Jeb-like neocon that he would have won the Republican nomination?  So, GOP voters would have voted for an inexperienced vulgar incompetent buffoon neocon over a boring technocrat neocon with executive experience?  And if the GOP electorate was ready for more hardcore conservative red meat, they would have voted for Ted Cruz over a neocon centrist Trump.

No.  Trump – with his personal history of supporting Democrats and his own social liberalism – saw a gaping open niche space to Cruz’s right – and not even so much to the right, but to the open space of right-wing populism, with a particular open space for plain-talking, anti-PC, immigration hardline rhetoric. That won him the nomination and the election, and he abandoned all of that when it was politically convenient to do so.  The man is a fraud and always was a fraud.

I wrote my “God Emperor No More” essay on April 8, 2017 after the Syria strike.

Many months after I had already labeled Trump a fraud.

We need immigration restrictions because most immigrants, legal and illegal, are not white…

The ancestors of Andrew Yang?

We have lots of people who are alienated and unemployed. We have lots of people from broken homes, fractured by the drugs, alcohol, and drama of selfish and degenerate parents. We have lots of people with drug and alcohol problems and personality disorders of their own. We have lots of people who are willing to lash out violently against the system that has betrayed them.

Describing Der Movement here?

However, as long as white dispossession continues—as long as whites see their communities declining because of diversity and their living standards destroyed by globalization and immigration, all to a din of anti-white hate coming from the mainstream media and academia—our numbers will only grow. White dispossession due to immigration and globalization is the primary force driving the rise of National Populism in every white country. White Nationalists are not causing this wave. But we are going to surf it to power and influence.

So, let’s all support Yang easing this distress by buying off White anger with his UBI!  Makes sense. 

We also voted, encouraged other people to vote, and worked to counter voter fraud. Trump won by a razor-thin margin: 107,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He knows very well how important our efforts were in the last forty-eight hours of the campaign to flip those states. He won’t win again without us.

This is a level of delusion that requires immediate psychiatric attention. According to Roissy, Trump won because of the caravans of Amish voters descending upon the polling places.  According to Johnson, it was all the WNs flying off from Ultima Thule in their Nazi UFOs to descend upon the polling places and who also “memed” Trump into office.  In reality, it was all the Reagan Democrats – many of them White ethnics – who left the GOP after Bush-Dole-Bush-McCain-Romney but returned, attracted by Trump’s phony right-wing populism.

Andrew Yang seems like an intelligent and sincere guy. He is not white, but he is the only Democrat who opposes anti-white identity politics. He is also the only Democrat who has talked about the problems afflicting white America. I will vote for him in the Democratic primary, and I will vote for him as President if he goes up against Trump.

Of course.  Who would have ever guessed that when Counter-Currents threw in its lot with the Amren/VDARE/Unz crowd, that it would be shilling for Asians. I’m shocked, shocked I say!

But generally speaking, White Nationalists find Asians to be the most agreeable non-white group in our society. 

But of course.

This is a movement full of anime fanatics, with a fringe of rice burners. 

Rice burners.  Or as I would say, mustards dippers.

Many of them would welcome our new Asian overlord.

Of course they would. Here Johnson essentially certifies once again that Sallis is correct.  Asians pimp out their women to White men, in order to influence Whites to favor Asian interests. A significant portion of Der Movement “insiders” – particularly the Alt Wrong HBD Race Realist faction – are Yellow Supremacists, and HBD is a political movement whose ultimate outcome would be to enslave Whites to their Asian (and Jewish) overlords.  Certainly, Der Movement prefers Asians to White ethnics. Sallis: Always right.

Beyond that, we are genuinely pragmatic. 

Laughable.

We supported Trump despite his obvious faults

Yes, 20-20 hindsight is always “obvious” – unfortunately, going back to the heyday of the Alt Right, Trump was The God Emperor, the sincere American Caesar who was going to stabilize White demographics. Now that the Pepe-Kek narrative has collapsed, it was “obvious” that Trump had faults. The only person it was obvious to was the person calling Trump a fraud and a huckster even before the election.  And we know what that is, don’t we?

Now that Yang looks like he will advance our interests…

Insane.  Yang wants to pay off Whites to accept their dispossession.  Whose interests are those?  I suppose the Amren/VDARE/Counter-Currents/Unz axis would love to see Whites groveling before their Asiatic Overlords in exchange for $1,000 per month.

Yang might not like us. But here’s the thing. He will still cash our checks

Sure he will.  Anything for the tin cup shekels, eh?  Until such time that it is decided that White nationalists are “terrorists” and giving them the UBI is “funding terror.”  No worries though. I’m sure illegal aliens will be cashing your checks instead.

…and he can’t prevent us from arguing for the merits of his proposals, voting for him, and encouraging others to vote for him. Whether he likes it or not, White Nationalists might put him in the White House.

White nationalists want to put an anti-White Asian in the White House, so he can buy off White anger over dispossession with a poverty wage.  That’s great.  Attention rank-and-file – this is the sort of insane destructive lack of accountability you’ve produced with your affirmative action program.

8. Are those in the White Nationalist and far-Right movement feeling more emboldened than ever before?

In a word, yes.

Of course.  Failure after failure, humiliation after humiliation, defeat after defeat…but they’re emboldened, don’t you know!  So much winning!

Long-term demographic trends are ominous. As I argue in The White Nationalist Manifesto, if we do nothing—if we do not implement White Nationalist policies—the white race will go extinct. That concentrates the mind wonderfully. That imparts urgency and moral seriousness to our cause. But white extinction is a couple centuries away. 

Always in the future.  Just remember to send your D’Nations today!

Moreover, medium-term demographic and political trends are working in our favor. As Roger Eatwell and Matthew Goodwin argue in National Populism: The Revolt Against Liberal Democracy, the rise of National Populism is being fueled by four deep-seated trends that are not going to abate any time soon: distrust of the establishment, destruction of communities by immigration, the decline of white working class and middle-class living standards due to globalization

So, you want to short circuit the rise of right-wing populism by supporting Yang’s center-left populism, and Yang’s plan to defuse the anger of the White working class by giving them handouts. These are your “leaders” – the whole bunch of them together would be lucky to have a combined number of brain cells equal to that of a mentally deficient Drosophila.

Eatwell and Goodwin actually argue that the only way we will get beyond National Populism is if established parties adopt National Populist policies. Which means that the days of globalist hegemony are over, and the future belongs to competing forms of National Populism. That is an environment in which White Nationalists will flourish.

Yes, they will flourish with cunning Asiatics buying off White anger with poverty wages.

The primary cause of rising white racial consciousness is not White Nationalists like me.

Truer words never said.

Instead, people are waking up in response to objective events—because diversity causes conflict and globalization causes deprivation. 

So, let’s alleviate the deprivation with Yang’s UBI.  Big Daddy Chinaman will give us our allowance.  As long as we beg for it real nice.

And now, with the rise of Andrew Yang, American White Nationalists have a new cause around which to unite our warring tribes. 

Johnson and Spencer, hand-in hand, will joyously dance to the new rising sun of Yangism!  A frog-faced Chinaman will truly Unite the Right!  And if anyone objects, there will be those Japanese schoolgirls prodding with their bamboo spears, and black-booted Chinese girls with guns.  And what looks to be a spurting fountain is the spontaneous ejaculation of the Silkers.

Johnson has “jumped the shark” as badly as his buddy Spencer.  These guys are caricatures of themselves; they have learned nothing from their repeated errors. It’s also interesting that Johnson has seemingly been mocking Yang and the Yang Gang at his Twitter account over the past few weeks, but is now himself part of the Yang Gang. What happened?  Did he get a stern talking to by his Alt Wrong allies?  How dare he criticize a Chinaman!  Doesn’t he know they are our masters and betters? 

Some selected comments from that Counter-Currents post:

In fact, what Andrew Yang is worried about is hordes of angry people – why are they going to be angry? Their ability to feed their families ruined by robots. What are these angry people going to do that Andrew Yang is so fearful of? Establish the type of government we want. That is what the $12,000 per year IS MEANT TO FORESTALL – OUR TYPE OF GOVERNMENT!
Duh!
In the real world, no one actually supports Andrew Yang in this movement; it is the “insiders” trying to push it on the rank-and-file. This push, thankfully, is failing.

This person is absolutely correct.  Yang’s UBI is designed to forestall radical change by buying off the populace. This person is also correct in that the whole Yang Gang paradigm is being pushed on the rank-and-file by “movement” “insiders.”  Whatever my criticism of the rank-and-file, they at least have some sound racial instincts so as to not become UBI slaves to grinning Asiatics.  No, we’ll leave that to the Quota Queens and their Asiaphilic fetishes (including self-admitted propensities for “rice burning”).

Yang says openly that he wants to enter politics because he is afraid that his fellow Chinese tribesmen will become hated in America as the US-China rivalry will only increase in the future.

Exactly.  And the Alt Wrong sides with Chinese against Whites.  After all, the HBD vision is groveling Whites lorded over by “high-IQ” Jews and Asians, with the more high-IQ Whites submerged within a Jeurasian mongrelization.

To achieve this goal, of ethnically interested self-promotion, he has put forward this “Caesar’s -Free Grain Dole 2.0” which of course it is certain to arouse interest and propel him on the national stage.

Yang’s motives are clear.  Ask yourselves why Der Movement’s leadership sides with a Chinaman against their own people.


Johnson:

The GOP takes whites for granted as they betray our ethnic interests. The party needs to be destroyed utterly, and a new genuine National Populist party needs to rise from the ashes.

Sounds like the Sallis strategy to me, and it will sound like that to long time readers of EGI Notes as well.  The GOP should be destroyed.  Der Movement should be destroyed as well. We’ve reached the point where the latter is more of an imperative than the former.


Johnson also states that UBI in our current economy can be funded by simply printing money and that won’t be inflationary because….bank bailouts. Err…the bank bailouts were not funded by a Weimar-like money printing press.  And will UBI replenish the Treasury?  If so, how?  Increased sales taxes?


Der Movement is a pathetic joke.

On the Arctic Alliance

The Asian Menace.

It is no coincidence that the leading proponent of a White-Asian “Arctic Alliance” is a White male (not man) who was labeled “awkward squad” by his own mother and who required a Chinese female for sexual release and for family formation.

Taking a very broad, top-down, racial view, one can observe that Asians, as a race, are pimping out their “women” to White “men” with the ultimate consequence of furthering Asian racial objectives.  The Alt Right’s Yellow Fever fetish falls within this paradigm as well.  Pro-Asian attitudes within Der Movement are exclusively a male phenomenon.  Yes, there are not very many females in Der Movement but they do exist and these females lack the slavish adherence to Asiaphilia shared by many male Type I “activists.” It’s not hard to discern why. 

If the “Arctic Alliance” was really plausible, then we would see signs of it being actualized by its own inner imperative, and it would not merely be a talking point for certain White males between rounds of their self-admitted “measured groveling” to their Asian wives.

If Asians were really racial allies to Whites, then, quite naturally, they would begin by stop being racial enemies.  They would stop immigrating to majority White nations. They would encourage repatriation back to their homelands. They would stop making common cause with other Colored peoples against Whites, both within majority White nations and in the international arena.

But Asians do not do any of those things.  And why should they?  The Asian sharks smell White blood in the water, they observe the decline of the West and the possibility of a Yellow (or Yellow-Brown) Millennium.  What do Whites have to offer as allies anyway?  So, no, Asians will continue striving after their own racial goals, and they will exploit the pathetic sexual tendencies of White beta and omega males to further the Asian racial agenda.

The “Arctic Alliance” is nothing more or less than race treason preached by White males who have thrown their lot in with their Asian masters.

Sunday Movement Roundup

Race and Der Movement.

“Based” Poland!  Visegrad! Ethnonationalism!

Wrong, wrong, they’re always wrong.

And, hey, I thought that Poles are “ethnocentric ‘Outer Hajnal’ Eastern Europeans.”  What happened? Maybe, just maybe (consider it) all of this “Hajnal line” nonsense is just more HBD flim-flam designed to divide Europeans against each other.  Yes, there are biocultural-behavioral differences among Europeans, but these are gradients, not sharp distinctions.  Poles may be a bit more on the ethnocentric spectrum than, say, Swedes (which is not saying much), but it obviously doesn’t protect them from the blowback from multiracial globalism.  All of this HBD nonsense would never have gone anywhere among racial activists if it wasn’t for the fossilized dogma and ethnic fetishism of the Type I retards of Der Movement. They have a lot to answer for.

One theme here recently is how HBDers try to appeal to Type I ethnic fetishists in order to derail White nationalism.  The emphasis on “David Reich’s data say Aryans invaded India” is one such example – because the word “Aryan” means different things to different people. To legitimate scholars, essentially, the ANI component in modern Indians is from Central Asian steppe people who were most likely more akin to modern Iranians than to anything else.  To Der Movement, it all means “blonde Nordics built the Taj Mahal.”  The HBDers are aware of, and exploit, these differences in perception.  

Spencer criticizes Puritans (who he calls “the worst people of the White race” – “horrible people”) – criticizing a major segment of America’s New England founders.  What’s interesting is that someone like myself who has never made any comments like that was wrongly accused of “bashing the founders” – while I don’t recall anyone criticizing Spencer for actually – and vehemently – doing such bashing.  Those affirmative action protections for “movement leaders” are really airtight, huh?

I agree with Spencer about pessimism being more realistic than airhead optimism. Is the King of Hobbits and the King of Racial Phenotype listening?

Is Spencer’s personal problems making him more Russia-skeptical?

Let’s not stereotype Italians, Richie, it’s not all olive oil.  The relevance of comparing the economies of Russia and Italy is that Russia is much larger than Italy in land mass and population, Russia is resource-rich while Italy is resource-poor, and Russia is a major military power while Italy obviously is not.

I agree with the fellow (Jason I believe his name is) who said non-White anti-White racism is based on envy, and I have written on this before.  And I agree on the description of anti-White Whites as well – intra-racial envy.

It’s all about punishment and revenge.  And the comparison between numbers is true with respect to racial accomplishment.  Compare, for example, some of the swarthoid regions of Europe with China – the former having accomplished more for human progress than the latter despite the latter having 1-2 (or more) orders of magnitude more people.  We can productively enrage the HBDers with this.  I can think of one small area that between the world wars presented to us Evola, Gentile, Majorana, and Pirandello (Cannizzaro died in 1910) – and then we have China, with a population a couple of hundred times larger, which at that time produced who?  Mao?  

I’ll say that overall that was a good podcast and I note that Spencer is behaving somewhat more mature with these people compared to the Alexandria VA-Brewery Boys crowd – until near the end, when he started behaving like a Beavis-and-Butthead Alt Right jackass again.  He almost made it…too bad he couldn’t go the distance. Maybe next time.

The voice of WN 3.0, right Greg? How can we trust Johnson’s judgment?  About the “voices of WN 3.0” or about anything else, including Trump?  At least now Spencer is turning against Trump, while Counter-Currents regaled us about how the mid-term elections were really a win for their tin god, and scolded any of us who thought otherwise.

Nationalism

Allied to this growing militarism was an intense nationalism in most of the Great powers. Weltpolitik or the desire for world power status was very popular in Germany. The French desire for revenge over Alsace and Lorraine was very strong. In Britain Imperialism and support for the Empire was very evident. This nationalism meant that there was little resistance to war in these countries. Many welcomed what they thought would be a short, victorious war. For example the outbreak of war was greeted by cheering crowds in Berlin, Vienna and Paris. As A P J Taylor wrote “the people of Europe leapt willingly into war.”

Durocher:

More importantly, the EU was not in fact the source of Britain’s demographic problems. True, the indigenous English and Celts of Britain are being replaced by virtue of the EU’s free movement of people, but mostly by European migrants. For the most part, these are quite assimilable and hard-working, and represent relative demographic gain…British patriots need to keep their eye on the ball: national sovereignty, good relations with their fellow Europeans, and, above all, keeping Britain British!

So – we will keep “Britain British” by replacing native Britons with Poles and Romanians?

Behold the pathetic loser.  Exchange real-time amnesty for invasive scum in exchange for a “wall” that likely won’t be built or that will be only modestly useful if actually built.  The Quota Kings have more testosterone than does The God Emperor.

We need today what Oliver described as The National Youth Alliance 50 years ago.

While I despise Welton, the following should make all of the “but, but, but…Joan of Arc” white knighters weep:

Males must not be ashamed of being males. The downside of being male is inseparable from the upside: the fact that it is men who have been responsible for pretty much anything of consequence ever accomplished by human race.

A picture for the ethnic fetishists.  All are prime candidates to be let into an “extreme vetted” “movement” meeting.  Especially the one third from left.  He’s from southern Sweden. The far south. Or maybe he’s just a S. Italian immigrant?

Some possible Presidential/Vice-Presidential ticket combinations – all in jest of course:

Spencer/Conte

Spencer/Jorjani

Spencer/Johnson

Johnson/Parrott

Parrott/Heimbach

Duke/Hart

Taylor/Linder

Daniel S/Captain Chaos

McCulloch/Sallis….or…Sallis/McCulloch?

Unfortunately, the Williams/Covington ticket has been derailed by Covington’s death.

Thursday Thoughts

On activism.

Attention, Greg Johnson; comment from YouTube:

LaserGuidedLoogie

1 day ago

Tell us again how “WN 2.0” is doing it better, because you know, “we are all so much smarter guies!”

WN 1.0 guys figured out 20 years ago:  You don’t talk to the enemy media.

WN 2.0 is a joke, and WN 3.0 is a plan for pathetic failure.  WN 1.0 was a failure as well, but at least it didn’t pretend to be anything other than it was – a tiny group of Nutzi freaks.

Does Hood really believe this is a realistic possibility?

Interesting comment:

Publius

I recently watched the movie “a beautiful mind” for the first time in a long time and it got me thinking. The greatest mathematical achievement that any scientist could achieve would be to solve the problem of the prisoners’ dilemma. The whole civilized world knows what is needed (Just look at the comments on any web location where comments are permitted), but anybody who acts is a Lonewolf who goes straight to jail or death by cop. No one man can do anything. How can a person act and have faith that 100 million brothers will act with him simultaneously?

I have written about this before.  Even though the great mass of Whites are useless cucks, and our situation is grim, there is likely many more people who could be on our side, but are, practically speaking, not, in the sense of being completely inactive.

Whites are atomized, not knowing who is a friend or an enemy, racial-politically speaking.  If you were to speak out, would any of the “six percenters” come to your aid? Is it possible to organize all (or any) of this unused human material, when everyone mistrusts each other?  If everyone is waiting for “the other guy” to get something started, then obviously nothing will ever get started (the current “movement” tragicomedy does not constitute such a “something’).  This is one reason the System cracks down on any public expression of pro-White attitudes, and why pro-Whites are deplatformed, and why the System uses a private army of leftist thugs to physically attack people like Spencer, and do so with impunity.  They are afraid that once a nucleus is formed (once again – this is NOT the current Der Movement), then all sorts of possibilities emerge that would not be conducive to the long term stability of the multicultural System.  

And, by the way, this is why all of the infiltration that Johnson so blithely shrugs away is so destructive, even though the direct and immediate impact was not so great. Besides the issue of revealing the horrifically bad judgement of “movement leaders,” and besides the public humiliation for the “movement,” it also reinforces the narrative that fellow Whites cannot be trusted, that your potential allies may be infiltrators, and that it is better to just hunker down alone (snug in your hobbit hole, perhaps?) and do nothing.  The damage done by Hermansson and Lewis was incalculable.

Once again: The existential meaning of Asians is hatred of Whites.  Even if every Jew in America were to disappear tomorrow, South Asians would fill the gap as the verbally-adept hectoring anti-White elite, with East Asian providing the technical “muscle” for the anti-White pan-colored alliance.  But, isn’t that what HBDers like Sailer want?  Wouldn’t his buddies from GNXP object to any skepticism about a Camp of the Saints invasion of America from the Ganges?  

This is interesting, but remember that Crick was a scientist, not an HBDer.  Ultimately, it was about facts and the truth, not politically-motivated “just so” stories to push a Jewish-Asian agenda at the expense of Whites.

Shockingly, Zman makes good sense here:

This is why civic nationalism is a dead end movement. It’s trying to reanimate an Enlightenment concept that was killed off by the post-war cultural revolution of the last fifty years. Reviving the old notions of civic identity is about as promising as reviving the monarchy in Germany. Thinking about it is a nice escape for those struggling to face the reality of identity politics, but that’s all it is, a fantasy. The world created by the Left is a post-nationalist world and therefore a post-citizen world.

Paying attention, Breezy?

This is incorrect.  What the Alt Right was really all about: Pepe, Kek, Beavis-and-Butthead drunken podcasts, Trump worship, complete misunderstanding of population genetics, covering typical fossilized “movement” dogma with a veneer of “youth culture” juvenile jackassery, cosplay rallies – in other words, WN 2.0.

Wednesday Weirdness

More “movement.”  In all cases, emphasis added.

What just happened?

Yet Johnson and McCulloch debate on the timing of our eventual victory.  Delusional.

I agree 100% with Taylor here.

Yet Johnson and McCulloch debate on the timing of our eventual victory.  Delusional.

I’ll give credit to Roissy for this:

Heritage America has no representation anymore.
424-1 in favor of condemning those who would entertain the thought that Whites have an identity.
The one nay vote was from a black Dem who thought the resolution didn’t go far enough.
lol america is finished.
The Two Minutes Hate directed against Steve King is symptomatic of a mind disease that has gripped the Western consciousness and won’t let go. Even otherwise normal, level-headed Americans are slave to the illness. What a shame. The craven prostration and groveling is what’s so disgusting about the whole spectacle.
Why do men like Crenshaw bend the knee to a puppet master who mocks them to their faces? Why make a show of his groveling on Twatter? Just vote “cuck” to appease the weasels and move on. Don’t hit up twatter to preen grotesquely about how bad Whites are for noticing their Whiteness.
But the greatest humiliation was reserved for Steve King, who had the temerity to insinuate that Whites are a collective identity with a glorious history of achievement who don’t deserve to be displaced from their own countries by third world rabble. One of those yea votes for the resolution condemning Steve King was from….Steve King.
As symbolism of a dying, weak, self-abasing race goes, that is hard to beat. Steve King condemning Steve King for crimes against the Diversity Orthodoxy he didn’t even commit.

Yet Johnson and McCulloch debate on the timing of our eventual victory.  Delusional.

Oh yes, all the “angels” will fulfill their “destiny.” No, the reality is what we see that happened to King and Watson…all at the same time!

Let’s consider this once again – the destiny-fulfilling angel, the “based” Steve King:

One of those yea votes for the resolution condemning Steve King was from….Steve King.  As symbolism of a dying, weak, self-abasing race goes, that is hard to beat. Steve King condemning Steve King for crimes against the Diversity Orthodoxy he didn’t even commit.

I go back to my old label as Whites as the “leucosa race” – a status even lower than omega.  There simply isn’t any “floor” to White self-abasement and masochistic pitiful weakness and self-destruction.  No floor.  The abyss beckons.

Song for Ted Sallis.

This is the retarded buffoon who has to be pointed out to foreign observers as the President of the United States. 

The Alt Right in one picture.

In general, Spencer sounds credible here, and I have sympathy for his situation, particularly as there are children involved and he is trying to be a father to them. I did read the Huffpost article (Spencer should not have talked to that woman, regardless of the circumstances), which was poorly written.  Look, I do not know the full facts here, maybe he did do some of what he has been accused of – or maybe not; I can only make a preliminary judgment based on what I do know, but the article was outrageously stupid, and clearly demonstrative of the lack of agency (hello, Greg) and insipidness of women.  Yegads!  Spencer was eating a sandwich and had mustard on his face!  Horrors!  Did he have spinach between his teeth as well?  Women have no business being writers or reporters or, really, being much about anything, other than housewives and mothers – if they can even handle that, and many of them cannot.

It’s amusing that the the soon-to-be-ex-wife (henceforth, “ex-wife”) claims she really didn’t know the direction of Spencer’ s politics from the beginning and implies that she was sort of carried along for the ride, while Johnson previously suggested that Spencer “is basically being dominated by Nina Nogoodnik, his Russian-Georgian wife.” 

The hypocrisy over the Spencer ex-wife situation is astounding as well.  The Far Right should reflect over their admiration for Saint Adolf and his ill-fated obsession with his half niece.  The Left should reflect on their lovefest with Saint Martin King and his philandering, womanizing, and plagiarism. The Left justifies this by saying that everyone has “personal flaws” and we should instead focus on King’s “dream.”  Fair enough.  So Spencer has flaws and we should instead focus on his “dream.”

“Alcohol is like throwing gasoline on fire.”  So – no more drunken podcasts?

Who does Spencer think was behind the Huffpost article?  Following the crumbs to where?  Someone in Der Movement?  Who?

And why do so many men in Der Movement have serious problems with their choice of women?  Strom is another one.  Consider MGTOW, guys.

Who can be a vice presidential candidate for Richard Spencer?  Answer: Greg Johnson.

Spencer/Johnson 2020!  A Pepe in every pot and a hobbit in every hole!  To the stars and to the shire! A Eurosiberian Imperium in the capital and de facto anarchy in the provinces!

And Spencer supports being “earnest and serious” and is against “nihilistic humor.”  Is he finally learning?

On the one hand, the call for standards is good, but the mendacious labeling of critics as a “peanut gallery” with “no real lives outside the Internet”  is just ad hominem excuse-making.

The comments about Greg Johnson in the podcast were interesting – as I assume that Johnson would say the same thing in return.  

But…they’re HuWhite!  I urge readers to go to the YouTube video and downvote. And,of course, boycott. These companies need to be held accountable for their behavior.

Again, they’re HuWhite.

Hey, guys, when will YOU oppose the Alt Wrong?  Delenda Est HBD!

“Based” Italy.

And who elected the current German government?

Zman:

The tougher question is what sorts of immigrants would we accept, even in limited numbers. In the Mid-Atlantic, where a large Korean community exists, most people would be fine with Korean immigration. Unlike the Chinese, Koreans are not fleeing political oppression or economic uncertainty. Koreans come here for lifestyle reasons, so they assimilate rapidly. They also take pride in being the model minority, despite what what some lefty advocates claim. Koreans came here to be Americans.

That’s HBD – supporting Asian colonization of the United States, pathetic “measured groveling” to the Altar of Asia, all Asia all the time.

Racial Kinism vs. Racial Instrumentalism

Two competing visions of racialism: WN vs. HBD.

There are many distinctions within racial activism.  One fundamental difference is that between White nationalists proper and so-called HBD race realists.  Of course, there is overlap between these positions to a greater or lesser degree.  However, let us consider the question of where a person’s primary interests lie.  Does a person take the view that race is of interest because they wish to preserve and promote their race for the reason that it is theirs – a kinship-EGI-based approach, or is their interest in race instrumental and utilitarian – they view population groups on the basis of some phenotypic characteristics of these groups, characteristics independent of whether or not the group is one to which the person belongs.  The former position, which I term here “Racial Kinism,” is more relevant to basic White nationalism (or any racial nationalism), while the latter position is that taken by HBD race realists.

Let us back up a minute and clarify.  HBD race realism is often pursued for reasons other than those stated by the HBDers.  For example, Jewish and Asian HBDers are for the most part really Race Kinists – racial nationalists – who support HBD as a way of promoting their own racial interests. In this case, they are Racial Kinists pretending to be Racial Instrumentalists in order to manipulate White HBDers to behave in ways congenial to Jewish and Asian interests. Thus, HBD is an approach for Jews and Asians to have White HBDers as the extended phenotypes of Jews and Asians. Some White HBDers have personal reasons for promoting HBD – consider Derbyshire and his Chinese wife and half-Chinese children.  So, familial and sexual interests play a role.  Academic HBDers promote their careers, and so forth. [And we have the White Silkers and their sexual motivations – but that’s another story].

But what about, speaking generally here, White HBDers without any obvious personal agenda?  How do we compare their viewpoints to that of White nationalists?  How do we compare Kinism vs. Instrumentalism regarding race?

Racial Kinism:  This group supports racial preservationism for its own sake. This is the basic White nationalist position – if you are White, then the White race is your race, and one you should support and promote, akin to family writ large.  Certainly, such a person may value particular characteristics of Whites, and may use such arguments, but that is not the primary motivation.  This agenda is consistent with Salter’s concept of EGI – ethnic genetic interests – a kinship-based approach where one’s ethny is a large storehouse of genetic interest for them, and inclusive fitness approaches to promote the interests of one’s ethny is consistent with biologically adaptive behavior. The Racial Kinist approach therefore values as the ultimate focus of interest biological/genetic relatedness (kinship). One supports one’s race because it is their race.  Such individuals realize that it is maladaptive to sacrifice the interests of your group for that of another group, just because that other group may rank higher on some phenotypic trait that someone values (proximate interest).  The ultimate interest of genetic continuity and EGI trump any proximate concern.  Again, this does not mean that proximate concerns are unimportant, merely secondary.

Racial Instrumentalism:  This group views race primarily in an instrumental and purely utilitarian fashion.  An ethny is valued because of how they rank in a hierarchy of certain phenotypic traits.  Arguments in favor of one’s ethny revolve around some perceived (or objective) value they have based on certain characteristics that are independent of the genetic kinship the ethny has to the person making the evaluation of the phenotypes.  While such a person may profess some value in kinship, this is a relatively weak factor; they are primarily concerned with “form and function,” and if another ethny ranks higher in the desired traits than one’s own, then that genetically alien ethny will be valued to an equal degree.  Racial Instrumentalism – caring about population groups primarily based on perception of traits, ability, and performance – leaves the instrumentalist vulnerable to extreme maladaptive behavior, as they can invest in a genetically distant group rather than in their own.  It is Whites who are particularly vulnerable – as they are generally more individualistic, lower on ethnocentrism, more universalist, more “objective” and “rational” when it comes to evaluating groups, and therefore more prone to “judge individuals rather than groups” and thus willing to accept membership in a racial categories (e.g., cognitive elitism) based on traits rather than on kinship.  Other groups, more ethnocentric and subjective in their ethnic self-interest, can manipulate this aracial universalism of Whites by promoting to those Whites the “legitimacy” of these aracial categories in which the ethnocentric non-Whites are valued for their ranking on traits.  Thus, a White HBDer, being a Racial Instrumentalist, rejects Blacks only because Blacks are perceived as stupid, violent, uncreative, sociopathic, and useless, not because of the gulf of kinship, the raw racial difference; conversely, Jews and Asians are valued as “high-IQ cognitive elitists.”  Whites can be manipulated into non-reciprocated “alliances” with these groups.  Also, note how White HBDers are manipulated into rejecting so-called “Outer Hajnal” Europeans while at the same time embracing genetically alien Jews and Asians who are even more “Outer Hajnal” than any of the European groups in question.  Interestingly, a trait ranking that is a problem when associated with fellow Europeans mysteriously disappears as an issue of concern when Jews and Asians are considered.  If none of this makes sense, well, it is really not supposed to.  The HBD cult is, in the last analysis, a strategy for making Whites into the extended phenotypes of Jews and Asians.

It’s interesting that many WN 1.0 Kinists refuse to critique HBD instrumentalism.  Is that because of personal connections – the good old boys network?  Is it because they foolishly think they can use instrumentalism in an instrumental fashion, to promote kinism (the means defeating the ends, I think)? Is it because the Instrumentalists appeal the ethnic and subracial vanity of the WN 1.0ers – you guys are better than the swarthoids and hunkies? Or is it plain cowardice, naiveté, or both?

Indeed, many Kinists are heavily into Instrumentalism.  Nothing wrong with using some degree of Racial Instrumentalism as a “side-argument,” but not as the main issue. Alluded to above, I believe that certain Kinists have been (intentionally) “seduced” by the HBDers, appealing to the Kinists’ vanity and the narcissism of minor differences, favorably comparing the good “Inner Hajnal” (and higher-IQ) superior Whites to the bad “Outer Hajnal” (and lower-IQ) inferior Whites.  Thus, these Kinists are made to feel part of a (cognitive elitist and behavior elitist) “elect” – which serves the HBD purpose of dividing Whites against each other.  Note that Jews have been said to promote alien immigration into America so as to disrupt the White majority, to disrupt the homogeneity and organic solidarity of White America – because Jews feel more safe and comfortable as one minority among many in a diverse America, and not as an identifiable minority singled out in a more homogeneous majority White America.  Similarly, HBDers fear and oppose (pan-European) White solidarity that would exclude Jews and Asians, and thus they do everything possible to disrupt the organic solidarity of the European peoples, turning different types of Whites against each other, to build a Jeurasian ingroup based on a HBD-promoted ranking of traits that would have Jews and Asians on top. And the Type I Kinists fall for it time and again, because their egos and ethnosubracial vanity trumps prudence and common sense.

What about the argument that HBDers are in “pursuit of the truth?’’ Long time readers of this blog, familiar with my exposés of HBD, know this is a lie, and know that the HBDers lie, distort, cherry pick, and omit to pursue their political agenda.  Is “pursuit of the truth” why certain “race realists” refuse to discuss population genetics findings – even those generated by Jewish researchers! – that show Jews as a genetically distinct entity, different from Europeans?  Why did the HBDers get all hysterical over the Schettino case, but studiously ignore a similar incident involving Koreans?

No, HBD, ultimately is a political movement; it is not science.  Real racial science is based on falsifiable hypotheses and hypothesis-testing, it is based on facts and skepticism, hard data, proper methodology, and a willingness to re-think ideas if the data do not fit.  HBD starts with the desired conclusion and then creates ad hoc hypotheses, combined with cherry picked data, and hand-waving spin to explain when, inevitably, the data do not support the hypotheses.  When was the last time an HBDer admitted they were wring about something fundamental?  It is politics, not science, with the politics serving Jewish and Asian interests and White HBDers seduced into supporting the political interests of alien racial groups.  That Jews have been supporting HBD is without question. They’ve supported it financially and,of course, people like Hart and Levin have been leading HBDers, saying nothing of Sailer who in the past made vague claims of at least part Jewish ancestry for his biological parents.

Although Racial Kinist WNs and Racal Instrumentalist HBDers can sometimes cooperate on certain narrow projects, the bottom line is that the two viewpoints are fundamentally incompatible when one considers primary value systems.

This is all a concern as the HBD Alt Wrong attempts to seize control of Der Movement, and many WNs refuse to oppose this, or in some cases, commit Race Treason and facilitate it.  And if so-called “anti-Semitic” WN 1.0ers continue to fail to speak out against the At Wrong, I will call them out about it.  HBD is NOT racial science, it is a perversion of it.  What are you waiting for?

Note:

Kinism apparently exists in Christianity as well.  I would guess Jews and Asians are not preferred there either.