Laugh at this, emphasis added:
First, what does it even mean to ban women from a largely anonymous online movement, which lacks any barriers to entry or standards of membership?
Sound like the “extreme vetting” at a Counter-Currents meeting. Isn’t that part of the problem Greg? That there are no “barriers to entry or standards of membership?” Shouldn’t those things exist, and be based on merit and behavior and not on an affirmative action program or the mirror test (if someone can fog a mirror held up to their nose, they’re in)?
We can’t ban women from the internet.
Too bad, huh?
We can’t ban women from reading our websites, listening to our podcasts, watching our YouTube videos, etc. We can’t ban women from writing for our websites…
Actually you could ban known women from writing, which you choose not to do.
…commenting on our websites, or donating to them if they simply use pen names. (For all I know, the person who sent in the question is a woman.)
Well, we certainly don’t want to decrease potential “D,Nations” now, do we?
Of course some parts of the movement can exclude women. I don’t think we should accept the essentially feminist assumption that all organizations and realms of society should admit women, much less aim for male/female parity. I also think that it is quite natural for radical politics to attract more men than women. And just as combat units and police forces function better without women, so might some White Nationalist political organizations.
But even if it were possible to entirely exclude women from White Nationalist politics, doing so would be dumb and self-defeating.
Because Greg, with much personal experience in dealing with women, says so. The defenders of women need to answer certain questions. Why do men who are serial killers, mass murderers, men who kill their families, when in prison, get inundated with love letters – often containing photos of the nude or scantily-clad nubile women who wrote the letters – and pleading offers of marriage? Why do men with a criminal record have more female sexual partners than law-abiding men? A sex hard-wired for crazed sociopathy is not the best material for a “movement” desperate for an increase in personal quality. Think about it.
If women want to contribute their money, ideas, time, and social capital to the movement, that makes us stronger, not weaker. Beyond that, we are never going to actually win unless we can convince a substantial percentage of the female population that we represent their real interests. And we will never do that if we allow the tone of the movement to be set by embittered misogynists, to say nothing of people who proclaim “White Sharia” and “Islam is Right About Women.”
Yeah, Greg, those memes – that I agree are stupid – are promoted by people who you enthusiastically declared as “the new voices of WN 3.0.” What does that say about your judgment – or absolute lack thereof?
Leftists love to dismiss realism about racial differences as racial hatred. But that’s not necessarily true. Feminists love to dismiss realism about sexual differences as misogyny, the hatred of women. But that’s not necessarily true either.
Yes, see above. Women: A sociopathic sex that rewards the worst among men with the most sexual access.
However, just as there really are people in our movement who hate other races, there are people in our movement who genuinely hate women.
Just as the goal of our movement should be to drain the swamp of diversity in which race-hate breeds, we should also try to address the underlying causes of hatred between the sexes.
And just as we will not achieve our goal in the racial sphere if we allow simple race hatred to define our movement, we will not achieve our goals in the sexual sphere by allowing misogynists to set the tone either.
Are the “goals in the sexual sphere” set by O’Meara and Brendon/Brandon?
White Nationalists are mature enough to recognize that hatred between the races and sexes is the inevitable product of the current system. We also need to be mature enough to recognize that indulging embittered haters will destroy any chance to rectify our problems.
Crazy and bitter! Johnson’s own obsessive hatred of Richard Spencer, is of course, not based on any bitter personal animus but just plain good sense! Criticize Johnson though and you are just plain nuts!
Second, talking about excluding all women because of doxers like Katie McHugh makes no sense. Should the movement also exclude all men, because some men are doxers as well? That would put an end to 100% of doxings, but it would also put an end to the movement itself.
And we can’t have that.
Surely we can be a bit more surgical about excluding certain types of people to minimize such problems in the future.
Yes, Greg: Hermansson, Lewis, Brandon/Brendan, Pilleater, most of the people you currently have writing for your blog…
Third, the very same people who want to blame women for problems in the movement also often deny that women exercise any moral agency. But if women have no agency, then they bear no responsibility either. But clearly somebody is to blame for these operational security and public relations disasters, and by their own logic, misogynists would have to blame men.
Yes, exactly, we blame men like Johnson who allowed all sorts of tragicomic lapses in operational security. We blame Steadman as well.
And in truth, men bear a lot of the blame.
By all accounts, McHugh, Samantha, and another unnamed woman who doxed Coach Finstock were not ordinary women. They were Alt-Right scene groupies. Like rock groupies, they were attracted to an overwhelmingly misogynistic subculture. Women who are drawn to such environments are surely high in masochism and low in self-worth. They then worked their way through the scene, passing over nice guys until they ended up with manipulative sociopaths.
Please Greg tell us – which “movement leader” is not a manipulative sociopath?
But when they realized that masochistic self-indulgence was not making them happy, they bailed out.
Then, once they had become sufficiently embittered to feel justified in harming innocent people, they went to the enemy and started doxing people, including people who had only been kind to them. This is the sort of pure evil that makes people dream of the eternal fires of hell to restore justice to the world.
Oh, yes, and some of us dream of such fires to restore justice to racial activism. Feeling warm yet Greg?
What makes such evil possible? I think a good part of it can be explained by bitterness. Bitterness takes root when someone is wronged and does not receive justice.
Hmm…then Sallis was wronged and did not receive justice. Good of you to admit it Greg.
Bitterness turns into a kind of neurosis. Embittered people vent their wrath not on the people who wronged them, but on people who didn’t wrong them but merely remind them of the people who did.
Absolute self-serving bullshit.
And if such people have any pangs of conscience, bitterness easily silences them: “Why should I care about these people’s suffering? Where were they when I was suffering? Who cared about me?”
So how do we lessen the likelihood of such disasters in the future?
First, we really need to dispel the atmosphere of misogyny in the movement, which attracts damaged people of both sexes. Race realism–yes. Race hate–no. Sex realism–yes. Hatred between the sexes–no. Our movement will never win unless we treat such hatreds as social problems to be solved. And we cannot credibly promise to solve them in society as a whole if we allow them to run rampant in our own ranks.
But, hey, Anglin is one of the new voices of WN 3.0, and don’t you forget it! Johnson is a buffoon.
Also: Hatred against White ethnics is A-OK.
Second, we need to exclude groupies. But we also need to exclude the kinds of sociopathic males they gravitate toward.
You mean like Jeelvy, you hypocrite?
…I am a bad worker. I am often late for work, and when I do arrive, I arrive with the insomniac’s world-contemptuous scowl overlaid against a stubbled jowl. I resolve office politics with threats of violence, and I’ve been known to disappear for hours on end, only to return in a state of mild inebriation. I write monograph-length critiques of TV shows from ten years ago during office hours… my successes are due more to innate charisma and an ability to charm people into forgiving my worst offenses rather than effort or passion. You have to be either crazy or my mother to hire me – in fact, the latter is my employer.
If we stand for the restoration of Western civilization, then we stand for monogamy not polygamy. We stand for fidelity, not adultery. We stand for healthy relationships, not pathological ones. Which means that playboys, sluts, adulterers, and abusers are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Ho ho! Is that why your response to Pilleater’s complaints was to chuckle about how if Brandon/Brendan thinks some hapless male meeting attendee is “cute,” he’s just going to “flirt” with them?
If someone you know is playing the field, using and discarding movement groupies, he is playing with fire. He is putting his own short-term gratification ahead of the health of our cause. That’s a problem, and you need to say something.
Say something…like Pilleater did.
Third, we need to drain the swamp where bitterness and wrath breed. We have to do something when people in our movement wrong one another. We need to have some sympathy for victims of injustice, even for victims who are not entirely innocent. And the best form of sympathy is to give them justice, which means there have to be punishments for wrongdoers.
So, Greg, when will you resign from the “movement?”
People who dox others are evil and deserve no sympathy today. But if they had received sympathy and justice when they were wronged, things may have worked out differently, and we would all be better off.
The Alt Right in America crashed and burned because it was run by a mafia of drunkards, druggies, sociopaths, and buffoons, as well as swarms of remora-like fanboys, sycophants, and enablers.
Greg, don’t be so hard on yourself.
I fear that we are going to be hearing a lot more such stories from Samantha and people like her for years to come. But the movement for white survival will not falter as long as we treat such disasters as opportunities to learn rather than excuses to quit.
This comically self-unaware post indicates that Greg hasn’t learned yet.
Speaking of women, let us listen to that philosopher Lee Priest.
The HBD-Nordicist-Ethnonationalist alliance, manipulated behind the scenes by Jews, continues onward, as I predicted.
More of an ethnoimperialist invading the nation of another people, demanding sexual access to their women.
Jews promote alien immigration into Italy, just as do dreadlocked German whores, Norwegians, and Richard Gere. The only thing Lind got wrong with his analysis of “American Tribes” is that he limited it to the USA. The Nord-Jew-Colored Alliance is international.
While the disgusting “human being” Trump celebrates putting Black criminals back on the streets, Proud Boys members are being sent to prison for self-defense, and the Trump DOJ persecutes the Rise Above Movement. But he’s a sincere man of greatness, and don’t you forget it!
Victory is inevitable, right Greg?