Category: Italians

Another Answer to Retardation

He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do.

As regards this issue, see the comment below. I don’t agree with every detail, but the main thrust is generally in accord with my views, and the points to which I agree with most are highlighted. I am not correcting the various errors of writing or formatting; those are minor issues of no great relevance to the main themes of the comment.

GrandioseNationalist
Posted July 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Another Nordicist who tries to “preach” us about history. This thing never ends; always trying to find artificial excuses to undermine Southern European contribution to Europe and further divide Europeans based on some outdated ideology. There’s a reason why the Star Systems and planets have Greek and Roman names and not Norse ones. See now how we’ve engaged in this fruitless debate that only serves our demise?
Furthermore all White Nationalists have to keep in mind a few things:
a) It’s not Greeks that have Turkish DNA but instead it’s the Turks that have Greek ancestry (along with other ethnic backgrounds). There is virtually no research or proof that shows that Greeks have Turkic ancestry. All racially mixed offsprings were either absorbed into the Turkish society or the Christian Orthodox women would commit suicide or murdered and shunned by their families before having kids with the “Muslim Oppressor”.
b) The Ancient Greeks had this ancient motto knows as “pas mi Hellen varvaros” which means “all non-Hellenes are barbarians”. Although there were some exception among the lines of the Persian, Celtic, and Roman kindred, Greeks shared an equal hatred even for each other (Spartans vs Athenians, etc.). Alexander was no exception, as the man who civilized the East.
c) Nordicist ideology has contaminated our tenets for more than a century and has only served to divide and conquer us, by placing basis on an abstract sub-racial division. There are Nordics common in all European nations just as there are Meds in Britain and Ireland.

c) Although not directly related to this article, it is vital to acknowledge that Pan-Europeanism is our only way out. When the Southern States, Southern And Northern Europe get overrun by migrants we ‘re gonna have to unite in a way that has never been done before. The US showed that White intermixia and nationhood is perfectly feasible and desirable if we proceed carefully step by step to that direction (that has already been happening for centuries now; look at us for example). It sure as hell didn’t lead to chaos and anarchy as some Ethnonationalists would wish. Now I’m saying this as someone who is of pure ethnic stock and has reached to that conclusion after lots of consideration and the studying of history.

The SYSTEM doesn’t give a penny or two about whether you’re Anglo-Celtic, Greek, Nordic, or what. All they see is a White person, and they attack our Whiteness because that’s the essence of our identity.

NATIONALISM is evolutionary: it extends for the POLIS to the REGION to the COUNTRY and eventually to the WHOLE RACE. By simply making a regression to these patterns would mean to be forced to repeat this endless loop of factricidal war and foreign infiltration. The Athenians would’ve objected to be united with the Spartans under the “generic definition” of the Greek, and they’d want to keep their “individual differences and have their separate ways”. Now that Greece is united, do you see any war between the two? Now they’re just Greeks and nothing else.

In less then two centuries time we’ll see the salvation of the White Race come to fruition under a life-saving fusion of all those who are Called Europeans akin to that in the US; under a centralized transcontinental state . Think on that.

The major problem with this well-meaning fellow is that he is wasting his time. He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do; he’ll get more of a useful response if he was addressing a pile of bricks.

It doesn’t matter that there is no evidence supporting the Counter-Currents viewpoint, it doesn’t matter that ancient DNA studies have so far refuted Kemp, none of that matters. When you are dealing with blind religious faith, facts do not matter and logic does not matter.  There is no place in Der Movement for pan-Europeanists, just as there is no place for Southern and Eastern Europeans. The Type Is have always had a stranglehold on control of the American “movement” and they will continue to hold on; if you want change, you’ll have to do it yourself by contributing to the formation of a new, alternative racial nationalist structure, a Type II-led movement.

I want to comment on this picture, much beloved by Nordicists. By modern phenotypic standards, we may say, subjectively, that Terentius Nero had an atypical phenotype. Very well.  So what?  That’s not evidence supporting that he was not of indigenous stock.  We do not know the range of indigenous phenotypes of ancient Italy.  For all we know, Nero’s phenotype  may have been common, at least among those of plebian stock, and may reflect Neolithic farmer ancestry. On the other hand, maybe he did have non-indigenous ancestry. Can you know any of that by looking at that one picture?  It’s not as if he looked like a Negro, a Chinaman, or David “Chopsticks” Bromstad, for example.

If you want to play the (frankly stupid) game of using single pictures to make snap judgments about an entire ethny, nation, people, or race, then what about this?  The ancient peoples of Italy were brown-skinned with black curly hair! Terentius the Etruscan!

This is the young Benito Mussolini, a representative of a people – Northern Italians – that Der Movement likes to tell us (absurdly) are “Celto-Germanic Nordics.” Judging by that picture, the typical Northern Italian male looks like the younger brother of General Mapache from The Wild Bunch.

By the standards of “one picture to judge a people,” I won’t get into what the Bromstad family, or Bjork, may tell us about Northern Germanics.

Meanwhile, on a completely different (of course!) matter, I’m working on a post or posts in which I am going to admit that Sallis was wrong about an issue concerning the “movement,” in contrast to certain academic types who were right.  Stay tuned!

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Odds and Ends, 6/5/19

Several items.

Meet Julius Evola.

Giulio Cesare Evola was born in Rome. The parents of Giulio Cesare Evola were Vincenzo Evola, born 4 May 1854, and Concetta Mangiapane, born 15 August 1865. They were both born in Cinisi, a small town and municipality in the Province of Palermo in the north-western coast of Sicily.

As well as “the Philosopher of Fascism.”

Giovanni Gentile was born in Castelvetrano, Sicily.

Anyone remember Negro Thomas Sowell’s pontification that Southern Italians had nothing to do with Fascism?  Just like the HBDers, non-Whites always like to lie in order to divide Europeans against each other.  Non-White HBDers are the worst.

And is Der Movement going to officially revoke Julius Evola’s “Traditionalist Hero” membership card?  How can the Type I Traditionalists continue to value the work of that Negro?

Radical leftist Antifa Don Trump and his neo-Marxist DOJ defeated.

A degenerate Negro.

Traditionalism meets astronomy!  

getgetgetgotgotgot
2 months ago
What is the esoteric meaning of Aldebaran?
Jackson
Jackson
1 month ago
It’s the origin of the Aryan people at least the ones remaining on earth, who fled civil decay and started the civilization of mankind that fell around 8-12,000 years ago. Their descendants are still here today. However they are not originally from here. The lore goes back some of the oldest historians as well as occult histories. Namely works such as “The Race to Come” is inspired by such works. Maria Orsic etc. Etc. Theres to much to cover.

What about Antares or Betelgeuse?  Rigel?  Is Ultima Thule in the Canopus system?  The Aryans of Archernar!

This is where Der Movement’s Quota Queen “leadership” will bring us.

Joan of Arc!  Greg Johnson weeps.

Common Sense Fetishist and Other News

More “movement” stupidity (redundancy).  In all cases, emphasis added.

“Common Sense Counselor” – another deranged fetishist. Good sense from “Cascadia Patriot” answered by the usual fossilized dogma by Der Flabby Irishman:

Cascadia Patriot
Ashkenazi Jews are not a “European tribe”. They are a mixed-Race people with varying degrees of White-European admixture. For a large percentage, and for many, the admixture is likely to be mostly from the last 300 to 400 years or so. Prior to that they were a much more insulated and separated community throughout Europe (minor exceptions are usually the case though). They still have varying degrees of descent from ancient Near Eastern and Middle Eastern peoples who came into Europe over the last 2000 years or so.
Common Sense Counselor
I do not want to quibble, but can the same be said for Italians and Slavs?

No, you stupid bastard.  And Slavs, for christssakes?  That’s what you get when an ex-libertarian flabby retard imbibes “movement” dogma.

See this, ignorant moron. The Ashkenazim are a mix of Middle Eastern, Southern European (mostly Italian), and Eastern European (Slavic).  So, if “Italians and Slavs” are mixed race mongrels according to your Irish racial purity (so admired by Der Movement, no doubt, Anglocentric American racialism historically being known for being pro-Irish), then I suppose that makes the Ashkenazim doubly-mixed mongrels, eh?

The fetishist is answered by the original poster:

Cascadia Patriot

@Common Sense Counselor No. Neither have widespread and significant admixture from the Near East and Middle East. Both are indigenous to Europe, unlike the origins of Ashkenazi Jews, and have a very similar 7,000 to 10,000 year history in their genetics, again, which the Ashkenazi only have due to relatively recent admixture (last 400 years or so) from Europeans. It’s been shown in studies that a fairly low percentage have a fairly low amount of admixture from non-European non-Whites (some Italians and some Slavs). Also, if you look up 3 dimensional PCA diagrams on Racial genetics they all cluster close in the White-European family.  

Southern and Eastern Europeans are on the peripheries so obviously there will be more outliers and ancient “frontier” and borderline mixtures. But the same can be said for others and all of this is the argument the anti-Whites use to say that the White-European sub-Race doesn’t exist. Which is nonsense and we just have to do our best to maintain what we’ve had for many thousands of years now.

See this.

The only thing that is permanent is the mark that one makes on the world with one’s deeds. Everyone wants to live well, of course, but it is better to live effectively: to live so that one is remembered for what one has accomplished.

And to put a little finer edge on the concept, it is not just fame in itself which is important. What counts also is the type of fame, the type of renown. The goal was to be remembered not just for being able to throw a spear farther than others or to swing a battle-ax harder or to use a sword more skillfully; it was to be remembered for having lived a meaningful life, a significant life. For some that meant a life of accomplishment, of changing the world; for others it meant a life lived as closely as possible in accord with the ideals of personal honor and of service to one’s people, so that one’s life could be held up as a model and remembered as such.

Superiority is not a birthright; superiority must be earned.

Burger King is an international terrorist organization.  That is not sarcasm. It is a logical extrapolation of their call to use their products for political violence. Why doesn’t anyone on the British Right sue them for godssakes?

Close down Burger King. Arrest their CEO and Board of Directors for promoting international terrorism.

Misleading Immigration Study, HBD, Alt Right Grifters, Italian Cucks, Mason Paternity, Etc.

In der news.  Emphasis added.

While Unz should be happy about this, in reality it is misleading nonsense for several reasons:

1.  With respect to illegal aliens, as the name implies, their very presence in this country is a violation of law, so they have a “criminal rate” of 100%, which is higher than that of any grouping of natives (even Blacks, believe it or not).

2. Comparing immigrants to natives is misleading from a racial basis. How about comparing immigrants to White Americans?  How about comparing immigrants to Black “Americans?” Hispanic “Americans?” And, I suppose Asians and Jews as well.  Let’s have the full data.

3. If you want to know the full impact of immigration on crime, you cannot stop the analysis with the immigrants themselves, but we must consider their descendants.  What does the next generation look like?

4. Most important of all, the immigration problem is not really about crime, or “the economy,” or any other such thing, but the genetic and cultural displacement and replacement of native populations.  Let’s assume that immigrants really have lower crime rates.  Very well.  I suppose then we can lower crime in America by replacing the entire native population with immigrants. That would lower the crime rate real well.  And the natives benefit how, by that?

5. By the way, although immigration will eventually replace the native population, given carrying capacity and differential birthrates, etc. – the immediate situation, at the national level, is not so much replacement as mere addition.  So, even if the crime rate among (legal) immigrants is a bit lower, we are adding that population, and all of its criminal element, to that of natives, are we not?  And what about at the city level?  If you argue that increased immigration into a city is lowering the crime rate, you logically imply that the immigrants are replacing natives (who are being pushed out) – supporting the “replacement narrative.”  You can’t have it both ways.  If immigrants are actually lowering crime in an area, rather than just adding criminals at a slightly lower rate, then population replacement is occurring.  Or do you claim that immigrants increase total crime, but that the rate is less per capita?  Which is it?

Zman:

I’ve also been asked by other content creators to join the merchant right, because it helps reinforce the notion that a culture war is not won on love. It takes money to run these sites and many of the people doing it have no other way to make a living. 

Let’s translate that:

I’ve also been asked by Alt Right grifters who live off of “D’Nations” to join them in their parasitical lifestyle, because when folks like me offer free content, it makes the tin cup panhandlers look bad.  If everyone is out for the shekels, then no one stands out as a money-grubbing useless exploiter of the rank-and-file.  It takes money to run these sites – except for the people who somehow do it for nothing – and many of the people doing it have no other way to make a living, which is precisely why they are doing it in the first place.

A HBD commentator writes:

Puzzled by this blind acceptance of natural selection. While it seems logical that the fittest will survive to reproduce, just take a look at our species. Do the fittest have the most children?

Excuse me, idiot, but since “fitness” in biological terms means genetic representation in the next generation, and not any of the proximate traits that HBDers and Nutzis hyperventilate over, then, yes, by definition, the “fittest” will have the most children (who survive and themselves reproduce).  Having the most children is what makes them “fit.” If you want to make criticisms about circular reasoning, fine, that can be debated among philosophers of scientific discourse, but please stop with the ignorant drivel on how “natural selection is wrong because stupid and useless people have more children.” That’s not how it works.

Welcome to Asia.

Welcome to MGTOW.

Italian cucks.

While the anti-Jewish laws of 1938 had been “a mistake, a shame”…

Based Caio!

More recently Matteo Salvini, leader of the League and Italy’s interior minister, has said that “a lot of things got done” under Italy’s Fascist government, hailing Mussolini’s infrastructure projects and pension system while dismissing his race laws as “madness”.

Based Salvini!  Cuckadoodledoo!  Note picture at bottom.  Dem dere Viking Northern Italians.  The ultimate Nordic phenotype exemplified in that photo.

Based Italy!

Cucked by a Jew?

Mrs Mason’s had insisted that each son should have a Jewish middle name and her former husband, who now lives with his new wife in Rhos, North Wales, believes this detail could provide a clue to the biological father’s identity.

Now, for the infertile Mason, the damage was emotional and financial.  But imagine a fertile man who is tricked into raising another man’s children, while actually having none of his own. That is murder of his genetic continuity; in my opinion, any woman guilty of deceiving about paternity should be subject to the death penalty. The biological father cuckolder should also be subject to that ultimate sanction if he was a willing participant in the deception (however,it is always possible that the woman tricked him into believing she was unmarried and he may not know he fathered a child).

Nice woman, eh?  Joan of Arc, eh Greg?

The yeastbuckets are all the same. All “fathers” should genetically test their paternity one way or another. And while 23andMe tests stink for ancestry, they do chromosome matching, so they can be used to confirm paternity if you want to do it in a more indirect, discreet fashion. Indeed, for any SJW polities that outlaw paternity testing, men should see if 23andMe is still available.  If the child is yours, you’ll match 50% of chromosomes – if that match does not occur, get a good lawyer, my friends.

IQ in the military in Vietnam.

Nazi ideology trumped military practicality.  Note Japanese betrayal with respect to the USSR (remember my debate with “Kumiko” about that – Sallis right, once again).

Well, who would do better?  Brimelow?

Wops, Kikes, and Retards, Oh My!

Der retardation.

One of the distinguishing characteristics of the ignorant and retarded “movement” is that it gets fixated on particular memes and will repeat these endlessly, regardless of the facts. First, it was the delusion that Quentin Tarantino is a population geneticist and that True Romance is a peer-reviewed scientific publication.  More recently, I suppose that some Type Is breathlessly examined PCA plots of West Eurasian ancestry and noticed the relative proximity of Ashkenazi Jews to Southern European populations.

Der Movement:

ie: I don’t consider relatively unmixed Northern Germanic-Italians and Sicilians that are 90% racial Jew the same race.
Neither do I consider “Iberian” Irish and then the native Briton / “Scots-Welsh” stock that makes up part of the political Irish category the same sub race. Not to mention the purer Nordic lines that run in-between.

Der Science:

See here.

And here.

And also here.

Der Phenotype:

Der Duce.

Note to “movement” – Northern Italians are not “Germanic.” Sicilians are not “90% racial Jew.” Der Movement is 90% retarded. Even the commercially available ancestry tests that are enriched in Northern European parental populations and deficient in the Southern European equivalents are not showing any significant “German” ancestry in Northern Italians or “Jewish” ancestry in Sicilians or other Southern Italians.

Now, let’s consider the reality – as opposed to sweaty ethnic fetishism – carefully.  Europe follows the general paradigm “genes follow geography” as regards the clines observed in the PCA plots much beloved of Nutzis whose lack of scientific understanding rivals that of a race-denying SJWs. Southern Europe fits into this pattern. Thus, Southern Italians are, as expected, shifted more to the Near Eastern direction than are Northern Italians, consistent with deriving a bit more ancestry (mostly ancient) from that direction, as shown here.

Meanwhile, Ashkenazi Jews derive 40-65% of their ancestry from the modern Middle East, 35-60% from Southern Europe, and 15-25% from Eastern Europe (I think that 40-40-20 or 45-40-15 percentage splits seem most reasonable). Those obsessed with PCA plots will remember that the areas of Eastern Europe from which Jews are expected to derive ancestry (e.g., Russia and Poland) are significantly shifted in PCA (to the “northeast”) compared to Southern Europeans (note – these Jews may possibly also derive a small bit of ancestry from German sources as well).

So, what do we have with the Ashkenazim?  We have a group that is a mix of Southern European (SE) and modern Middle Eastern (ME), but with significant Eastern European (EE) admixture shifting them in a more “northeast” direction compared to what one would expect from a simple SE-ME mix. So, the net result is that the Ashkenazim are pulled in the direction of being relatively close to Southern Italians (including Sicilians), Maltese, and other Southern European groups – although, typically, the Jews are still, on average, shifted a bit away from the European groups. Given the tripartite admixture pattern of the Ashkenazim, and the distinctiveness of the Eastern European component, the end result is exactly what one would expect. Only a raving retard would interpret that as “Sicilians (or any other Southern Europeans) are 90% Jewish” (for which no evidence exists whatsoever).  Instead, it is that the EE admixture in the Jews pulls them close enough to the European direction as to make proximity to SEs possible.

And all of that is besides the point that the modern Jewish genepool, and the phenotypic characteristics derived from it, are the consequences of centuries of the endogamy and selective pressures that occured in that community after these admixture events. If you were to mix representatives of today’s SE, ME,and EE populations in proportions similar to the original Ashkenazi formulation, you would not magically get “racial Jews.”  

And do you really believe that Irish sub-types that you think are “different races” are going to significantly differ in genetic composition and racial affinity?  Are you really that stupid? 

One of the tragedies of the Internet is that it empowers individuals with the intelligence of roadkill to believe that they have something useful to contribute to human progress. I suggest that they go back to masturbating over Kemp’s science fiction novel March of the Titans, which is nothing more than a riff off of The Iron Dream.

Speaking of Jewish ancestry.

Sieg Heil!

Based Poland.

The analysis showed that 1.8% of Polish haplotypes may be of Ashkenazi origin…

For those of you who take ancestry testing companies seriously:

Mazel Tov!

“We don’t know who that Jewish person was, but we know it was on his mother’s German line.”

Also see Germany and Poland here.

So much winning!  Who is President again?  By the way, another grand victory for WN 2.0. Greg. Question – if Trump is impeached, indicted, convicted, and sent to prison, will the same speculation be appropriate for him?  He’s no “dandy,” to be sure, but his lard-inflated buttocks may be seen as womanly by other inmates, so who knows?

Genetic History of Rome Coming?

Preliminary; emphasis added.

There is some talk that a paper is coming out soon tracing the genetic history of Rome (and surrounding areas of Italy) from prehistory to more modern times. Some preliminary summaries were put online, apparently written up by someone who saw an academic presentation. If we assume that the material posted online is accurate (we have to await the actual paper), what can we say about it?  Again, this assumes that the material below is authentic, which I give no guarantee to. I am just reporting what is online at this point. Whether it turns out to be true or bogus, only time will tell.

Presentation by Hannah Moots. No pictures, not allowed. Paper coming out in a couple of months, done with Pinhasi and Pritchard.

134 genomes, spanning 12000s BP to Renaissance and enlightenment. 0.5-3.5X coverage.

Time period covered.

Vast majority of sampling sites concentrated in Rome and surrounds, lowlands of Latium around the Tiber River, up to Ostia, almost all restricted to Lazio. Some extend to Abruzzo, South Le Marche, none, or maybe one, in Tuscany, and on the South of Tuscany if that.

Couple of samples from Sardinia.

Areas covered.

I’ll give a PCA position and a ADMIXTURE description for each time period. Note that the ADMIXTURE only had Iranian, EEF, WHG, EHG and Levant_N, no CHG. Where Iran N appears, it may be a stand-in for CHG. There is something quite puzzling in the list below, mislabeling in the slides? But that doesn’t explain it either.

UPPER PALEOLITHIC

All WHG

Which of course makes sense. In the Upper Paleolithic, only the Western Hunter Gatherers were present.  All ‘high-trust,” no doubt.

NEOLITHIC

Mostly EEF, some WHG. Some Iran_N, quite a significant quantity, as much as WHG. PCA position Between Sardinia and Maltese, east of Sardinia, closer to Sardinia than to Maltese

As I’ve written about many times, Southern Europe was heavily Early European Farmer – the Neolithic farmer expansion from Anatolia/Near East – since the Neolithic. The Paleo/Neo divide that the “movement” breathes heavily about was in place before the rise of the Classical Civilization.  The “Iranian” may be CHG ancestry.

BRONZE AGE (EARLY)

Overlaps modern-day Sardinia, Iran_N percentage declines, WHG and EEF increases

(Note that this represents a Europeanisation of the gene pool!)

Sardinian-like genepool, even more EEF than before.

IRON AGE TO REPUBLICAN PERIOD (700-20BC)

Note: Separated from previous period by 1000 year gap.

Fewer samples, of those that exist 60% overlap with North Italy, 40% overlap with South Italy and Sicily, centroid of overall cluster in central Italy but no samples occur there, very wide spread.

EHG appears, Levant N Appears for the first time, sporadic and inhomogeneous distribution, Iran_N increases further.

This may be the most important set of samples; unfortunately, they are “fewer.”  I say these are the most important because this is the period of Roman history that, according to Der Movement, the Ancient Romans were akin to Dolph Lundgren walking around in a toga. Note that the centroid of the samples (not any individual sample itself) are akin to Central Italy – a North/South mix, a bit more slanted to the North (60% to 40%). “60% overlap with North Italy, 40% overlap with South Italy and Sicily” is hardly Dolph Lundgren walking around in a toga. Note that Levantine and “Iranian” influences, in addition to EHG, are present at this early time. These are parts of the Italian genepool dating back to the Iron Age. Combined with EEF, that likely explains much of the “Southwestern Asian” or “Anatolian” (or whatever) “findings” from ancestry testing companies (with their inadequate parental/reference populations) for customers from this region.

This period of Roman history seems to be rather genetically heterogeneous. The centroid is Central Italian, but no samples occur there. Was the population basically a bipartite Northern and Southern Italian mix?  Der Movement would of course infer Northern Italian Patricians and brutal and stupid Southern Italian Plebs. None of them seem to cluster with Scandinavia though.

IMPERIAL PERIOD

Dense cluster centroid between Greeks, Cypriots, South Italians/Sicilians, and Syrians, closest to Sicilians. Long tail stretching from central cluster to Syrians and Iraqi Jews. Couple of Northern-shifted samples overlapping N Italy, France, Spain.

Iran_N increases further, Levant N again sporadic and inhomogeneous.

During the Imperial Period Rome becomes more cosmopolitan, as historically noted, with increased population coming from Greece and the Levant, but some from more Northern and Western regions. This shifts the centroid from a more Central Italian to Southern Italian/Sicilian centroid, consistent with the modern clinal gene frequencies shown here.

LATE ANTIQUITY

Tight cluster centroid in S Italy, in the same place as in the previous period. Southern tail to Middle East disappears. N Italian, Northern European and NW European outliers exist.

Later, the centroid remains similar to Southern Italy, but perhaps a bit more Northern and Western than before – “Southern tail to Middle East disappears. N Italian, Northern European and NW European outliers exist.”

AFTER

Resemble modern central Italians.

I would assume that the increase in “N Italian, Northern European and NW European” shifted the centroid back to Central Italian.

Thus, during the period of Der Movement’s favorite era – the early days to the end of the Republic – these data  (again assuming they are authentic) show, crudely speaking, a Central Italian centroid Rome that was split between 60% similar to Northern Italy and 40% similar to Southern Italy/Sicily.

Cosmopolitan migration into Rome pushed the centroid a bit more South/East along the cline of gene frequencies to a more Southern Italian centroid during the peak of Empire. Without seeing the actual data, this could simply be the addition of Greeks, Jews, and Syrians to the population in addition to the bulk of the pre-existing population, rather than a panmixia.  But at this point, who knows?  Some admixture may be possible.

Later, an increased influx from the North and West shifted the centroid back to Central Italian, into modern times. 

Lactase persistence alleles appear abruptly after 0 AD.

Romans were therefore lactose intolerant during the period that Der Movement asserts was Leif Erickson as Consul of Rome.

Heterozygosity reaches modern level after Iron Age.

No information given on uniparentals.

Isotope information not available yet, no way apart from archaeological context to tell between migrants and locals.

Represents a preliminary effort, more work coming later.

If we assume that these data are authentic and if we further assume that the “more work” does not alter the story significantly (two big “ifs”), then the essential Der Movement narrative is not supported.  The only point of agreement (that no one has ever substantially argued against) is that the city of Rome (and some other areas) became more cosmopolitan during the Imperial Era. That there were migrants and slaves in the city is well known.  However, these data paint a crude genetic picture of a Republican Rome whose genetic centroid was Central Italian, a more Southern Italian Imperial and Late Antiquity Rome, and then shifting back to Central Italian in more modern times.  I suppose that Der Movement can try and salvage something here by asserting that “degeneration” (if such actually occurred, which is debatable) was accompanied by the Central to Southern Italian centroid shift. However, the more fundamental point is that these data (again, if authentic, which I do not guarantee) can be interpreted as suggesting that Rome, the Republic, the whole story, was founded by a lactose intolerant, EEF-enriched, Southern European people very crudely akin to a population of 60% Northern Italian and 40% Southern Italian/Sicilian. I suppose that Der Movement would claim that the Patricians were of that 60% and the Plebian rabble were all of the 40%.  Regardless, it is doubtful that any of the sample data are going to fit a narrative stating that Ancient Rome, of any period, was composed of Celto-Germanic Nordics.

Needless to say, from the standpoint of EGI and of biopolitics, all of this is irrelevant.  It is all completely irrelevant to the political facts on the ground today as they related to genetic interests.  From the standpoint of analyzing Der Movement, it is interesting. No doubt that whatever the final outcome of this research, the Nutzis will say “Arthur Kemp was Right,” although it undoubtedly will not truly be so.

Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out

In der news.

In contrast to this leftist advice, the rightist version:

Turn On: Focus your energies on your own life, your own family, your own health, and your own career.

Tune In: Keep track of “movement” goings on by reading blogs, websites, etc.

Drop Out: Drop out from Der Movement, Inc. (a money-making enterprise). Do NOT actively participate in “movement” “activism” until such time that the “movement” and its “leaders” prove themselves worthy.  Also drop out of mainstream politics and culture until such time that it is no longer anti-White.  

First Ride the Tiger, then when the time is right, Kill the Tiger.

More leftist hypocrisy – We are told that it was wrong for Senator Anning to strike teen-aged “egger” Will Connolly in self-defense because Connolly is a “child.” However, it is the height of moral righteousness for people, including wealthy celebrities, to advocate violence against the teen-aged Nick Sandmann because of a perception that Sandmann was “smirking” at some obnoxious Indian (feather, not dot). OK, got it.

A S. Italian cooks lasagna.  You know those wops like that stuff.  Bop, Bop, Bop!

So pontificates a former illegal alien whose marriage has brought in more non-White blood to America.

Oh the horror!  Females have “agency” because…Joan of Arc.  

See this, emphasis added:

Mr Meener

out of all non whites I do not mind chinks japs etc. they stay among themselves cause no trouble. women are hot and ultra feminine. they want to imitate us not destroy us. also who the f#ck wants non whites to assimilate? so they can bang your daughter? let them stay in their own areas

Once again, Sallis is right.  Asians pimp out their women to influence White males to hold pro-Asian attitudes.

How Asians win awards.  Let’s take another look at those PISA scores as well, shall we?

Settled fact – White ethnics are worse than Blacks:

I definitely never intended to say America had always been a country of immigrants and never a nation. It could even be argued that southern whites are still (barely) a nation. The fatal blow was struck by the hordes of diverse (white) immigrants in 1880-1920 who ended up being far more destructive soldiers against the American nation than the blacks ever were or could have been.

This gamester idiot was comparing northern cities (Boston, New York) with an entire general region of the country (the South) to make the “argument” that founding stock Americans did demographically better surrounded by Blacks than by the dreaded White ethnics.  Let’s switch that around and compare the general regions of New England or the Mid-Atlantic with individual cities such as Atlanta or Birmingham.  Dat right!

Tell me again that there is no affirmative action program in Der Movement.  By the way, are the Full Metal Jerkoff shabbos sud stepandfetichits paying attention?  Hey guys, you wrecked your military careers for nothing – actually, for less than nothing, for people who despise you and consider you lower than Negroes.

Hey, it’s not 20-20 hindsight at EGI Notes, where all you suckers were told before the election that Trump was a fraud, a race cuck, and a buffoon.  But, no, we can’t listen to the low caste Sallis, instead we’ll all sit enthralled and starry-eyed as the Quota Queens shuck and jive.

Dat dere Traditionalism!  He’s right.  That wonderful “Tradition” led us to the disaster of today.  Then again, we know that Der Movement loves to make the same mistakes over and over again, so why not Tradition?

This linked here is a reasonably good video, and I agree with most points.  Not with the optimism at the end though.  We’re done – unless a New Movement arises and replaces the clownshow of Der Movement, Inc., a money-making enterprise.

Roissy is demented:

I pray for the Trump Rampage.

Sure…the “rampage” will include Trump enthusiastically signing an executive order banning “White supremacism,” and his first MAGA victory will be shutting down Chateau Heartiste, the domain name of which will be given to a Feminist-SJW-Open Borders-Antifa organization.  All Hall the God Emperor!

Yet another violent Sicilian.  Bop, Bop, Bop!