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Apostate Woes

And other news.  Some notes on scifi.

Read this utter nonsense.  That represents the archetype of the stereotypical silly, superficial, moronic, and childish apostate from Far Right politics.

First, we note that this individual’s involvement in Far Right politics was motivated by personal issues, not by ideology nor by any sort of deep ideological commitment and intellectual thought process. These types are always motivated by personal problems, a need to “belong,” a need to “rebel” against family and society, a childish need to “shock “and draw attention to themselves in a narcissistic, infantile manner. Thus, if they no longer have their personal issues, or if they discover that their Far Right comrades are more interested in actualizing political and metapolitical goals rather than being a social worker for defective losers, or if these types satisfy their person needs and mask their inadequacies through other activities, then they no longer require, or depend upon, their masquerade as a “Far Right activist.”  As there was never any authentic ideological motivation or commitment, the loss of their personal need for self-validation through rightist politics results in repudiation of their insincere belief system.  Indeed, they lash out at authentic Far Right activists who they see as “failing them,” rather than understanding that the reverse is true.  Truly pathetic.

Second, such specimens exhibit a truly childish worldview in which the objective Threat of Color must mean that every single Colored on the face of the Earth is a hostile, White-hating, criminal monster. Thus, finding some Colored individuals, even just one, who do not behave as depraved monsters is sufficient for these faux-activists to decide that the entire Colored Threat is false. This is reflective of their navel-gazing, highly personal view of rightist politics.  It’s not that masses of Coloreds, on a global level, are a threat to White racial interests; oh no, their focus is on how individual Coloreds interact with them personally.  Meet a single friendly Negro who doesn’t bash your head in and steal your wallet and your entire racial worldview immediately evaporates.  All of the objective facts that ostensibly motivated your political activism evaporate if some non-White nods hello to you on the street.  It sounds ludicrous, but this is actually the “epiphany” that many of these airheaded nitwits actually have.


Ultimately, the objection of these apostates is that have been personally disappointed by the “movement.”  It didn’t satisfy their personal and private needs and wants. Of course,the same can be said, to a lesser degree, of non-apostates who simply, quietly drop out of the “movement” “scene” without making a fuss about it.  I remember being quite stunned by one drop-out of WN 1.0 analog activism who explained himself to me thus  -“they (note: his “movement” colleagues) only pretended to like me because of the work I was doing for the group, they didn’t like me for who I am; they didn’t care about me as a person.”  Not wanting to be rude, and not wanting to add to his “emotional trauma,” I hid how shocked I was by that comment, but I remember thinking – of course that is true, how could you ever been so naive to believe otherwise?  


Why do people working together on a project, for a cause, have to like each other, and be genuine, caring friends?  That seems to me to be a quite feminine attitude – we all must hold hands, tiptoe through the tulips, and agonize about our “feelings.” No. Employees at a company do not have to like each other, players on a sports team do not have to like each other, faculty in an academic department do not have to like each other, students in the same class do not have to like each other, and people collaborating in a “movement” do not have to like each other either. Any friendships and/or relationships that develop are a byproduct, a side-effect, of the official interaction; it is not required or in any way necessary. Likewise, a “movement” does not have to satisfy the personal needs and desires of an activist. If it does so, that’s great, but it is no necessary (granted, the “movement” must not repulse its activists, but the lack of a negative is not the same as the presence of a positive).  


Anyone who leaves a “movement” because of personal disappointment in how it affected them in the sense of not fixing their deep-seated issues is not the sort of person who should have been involved in that “movement” to begin with. The problem is not Normal Lowell. The problem is the idiot who wrote that article.

This is one reason I vehemently oppose the “big tent” strategy supported by poor judgment, failed Quota Queen “leaders.” Yes, we should have outreach.  Yes, we need to recruit.  Yes, we need to reach out to the White masses.  Yes, eventually, we want a mass movement. But, the leadership cadre, the activist core, the human material that makes up your movement – assuming it is a real movement and not a fraud – need to be high quality, genuine, authentic, ideologically committed and serious people. The typical Der Movement approach of accepting any and all Whites who can fog a mirror held up to their nose and who can mumble memorized gibbering of fossilized “movement” dogma is a recipe for failure. Particularly, accepting any and all “youth,” including and especially troubled teenagers and young adults, people who are so pathetically eager for acceptance and belonging, people whose ONLY positive characteristic is being White and ostensibly on board “the movement train,” without any other positives to contribute, this is an error.  There needs to be a long apprenticeship, a seasoning, a series of trials and tests, before a person is fully accepted.

Well, well, well – the Millennial Woes scandal. Sallis right, Johnson wrong. Sallis is Milady-skeptic, Sallis promotes MGTOW, Sallis questions the presence of women in the “movement,” Sallis demands we have standards for leadership instead of affirmative action, Sallis opposes the “big tent approach.”  Johnson takes the opposite view on those issues.


I have to say I know little about this Millennial Woes person.  My understanding is – and if I am wrong I stand corrected and I do apologize – is that he is a cigarette-smoking bisexual Millennial Scottish WN 2.0 Alt Righter who makes videos and speaks at Far Right conferences. He apparently is on good relations with Johnson, and is apparently very well known among WN 2.0 Alt Right circles (which is why I know little about him, given that I am vehemently opposed to WN 2.0 and the Alt Right).

In any case, in summary, this latest “movement” humiliation and Quota Queen dust-up involves the Millennial Woes (who is openly known as Colin Robertson) scandal, which apparently has to do with some yeastbucket complaining about Robertson, re: something sexual, and Collett investigating while Robertson steps away from activism (at least for now). Apparently, Gaslighting Greg Johnson is taking a pro-Woes position while crazed ethnofetishist Colin Liddell is hostile.  Apparently the two Colins have had a falling out.  


Far from it for me to be a “low information moralizer;” so since I know nothing more about this than what is stated above, and since I don’t have a dog in the fight to care enough to learn more, I’ll limit my comments to broad generalities:


1. I could say this is what happens when you let women involved in “movement” “activism.”  But that would be unfair since (a) homosexual sexual harassment occurs in WN 2.0 as revealed by Pilleater, and (b) point 2 below.


2. I remember the WN 1.0 analog meetings we knuckle-dragging Nutzi Neanderthal Boomers and Gen Xers were having back in the 90s. There were women at those meetings.  Somehow, there were never any scandals of either the heterosexual or homosexual nature.  Fancy that.  It’s almost as if – perish the thought! – WN 2.0 is far inferior to WN 1.0 in human material and in the seriousness and judgment of its participants.  It’s almost as if – gasp! – Millennials and other paragons of “youth” act like jackasses.  


3. This is hypocrisy.  See this for what I mean by that.  Simply outrageous, particularly in the context of the previous links. A completely bizarre and cringeworthy tweet. Milady objects. Go to CC meetings at your own risk as well, Pilleater.


4. Once again, Der Movement is humiliated.  And you can’t say you haven’t been warned here at this blog (and at Western Destiny) of what an utter disaster the “movement” was, is, and always will be.  Now, WN 1.0 was indeed an utter failure and a humiliating disaster, but WN 2.0 is infinitely worse, essentially 2.0 repeats the errors of 1.0 and then adds its own layers of tragicomic stupidity. It may very well be true that Millennial Woes did nothing wrong; it may very well be mendacious yeastbucketism. It doesn’t matter. Having these WN 2.0ers publicly humiliate themselves with their drama and scandals and feuds does damage to pro-White activism, regardless of the details underlying it all.


Johnsonian hypocrisy:

Embittered people like Colin Liddell are now functionally indistinguishable from antifa. 

I despise Liddell, but that from Johnson is unfair and hypocritical.  After all, Spencer can say the same about Johnson and his obsessive critiques of Richie Rich.  Why is it that people like Johnson, who promote the idea of “punching right,” have glass jaws when it comes to criticism of themselves and their friends?  Liddell has just as much right (no pun intended) to “punch right” as does Johnson. Third party observers can judge for themselves who they believe is correct or incorrect.


All of these individuals – Johnson, Spencer, Colin Robertson, Colin Liddell, Steadman, Parrott and Heimbach, Brimelow and Derbyshire, Forney and Friberg, all of the HBDers and “race realists” (Taylor, KMacD, etc.),  Anglin and Roissy, Duke and Strom, the great man on the mountaintop (*) and his feuding rival Covington, Gliebe and the swastika-soled boots, all of them – should be observed with bemusement, from a distance, from the viewpoint of a third party observer. Taking sides in these feuds and scandals is a useless exercise, because BOTH sides in each case are no damn good. A pox on both their houses. The only reasonable interpretation of this latest nonsense is that it is yet another reason to eschew Der Movement, Inc. and look toward a New Movement.  


Instead of giving those grifters money, donate to Salter instead.  On Genetic Interests alone is more valuable than all the “work” of those aforementioned “activists” put together.  


*I will say this though, for all my criticism of Pierce and his behavior and ideology, it is true that American White nationalism collapsed after his death and never recovered.  And it appears the UK is not any better.  Was the death of Pierce the real end – or at least the beginning of the end – of the WN 1.0 era?  Then there was a brief interregnum, and the rise of Spencer and Johnson (more feuding rivals) marked the rise of WN 2.0.  


Original hypothesis – given the level of neoteny in East Asians, “White male yellow fever” sexual interest in East Asian females is sublimated pedophilia.


New insight – given the relative lack of sexual dimorphism in East Asians, “White male yellow fever” sexual interest in East Asian females is sublimated homosexuality.


New synthesis, updated hypothesis – given the combination of neoteny and relative lack of sexual dimorphism in East Asians, “White male yellow fever” sexual interest in East Asian females is sublimated pederasty. 


Is “yellow fever” masking a desire to have sex with underage boys?  Does this mean that HBD is sublimated pederasty?  Are there psychological and biometric analyses that can be performed to test these hypotheses?


Typical nonsense. The best science fiction writer (by far) is the late Gene Wolfe. Nothing that anyone else has written surpasses The Book of the New Sun. That book series is the scifi/fantasy equivalent of Moby Dick. And in actuality, Bradbury’s best work is a non-scifi novel, Dandelion Wine, about an America long gone. Dune (which I have read, and saw the movie and miniseries), is a very good book, but nothing compared to Wolfe’s best. van Vogt’s Voyage of the Space Beagle is good stuff. For more light-hearted fare, Jack Vance is unsurpassed; beginners should start with his Dying Earth short tales, which have been criticized by feminists as too male-oriented, which should be the best seal of approval there is. Vance’s novels involving Cugel (one of the greatest characters in scifi/fantasy history) are first rate and hilarious, and Planet of Adventure is excellent, as are his Demon Princes stories, particularly the finale, The Book of Dreams. Asimov is over-rated, but his Foundation series is indeed excellent, and thought-provoking from a broad civilizational view. There are many other great scifi books and writers. Conflating the best to Herbert and Bradbury is absurd.

This picture does not inspire confidence in current coronavirus research.

I agree with what Johnson says here.

The American Right has morally and intellectually discredited itself with its reaction to the corona pandemic.

Very true, but as any reader of EGI Notes well knows, you read that here first, many weeks before Johnson’s belated epiphany.  The few times the Quota Queens write or say anything useful, there are far behind the curve of this blog.


And of course, by letting deranged scum like “Stronza” post comments on his moderated blog, Johnson himself must be counted among the rightists who have been so discredited.


It’s just the flu, bro!

The biography of Jack Ma?  ET phone home!

Not good enough, Trump. Please release the data.  I believe it, but how can we all build treason evidence against HBD without the stone cold facts?  Keep in mind that EGI Notes was among the first Far Right blogs promoting the “Chinese lab release” paradigm (while the HBD filth were promoting Chinese government propaganda lies about a fictional “American bioweapon.”


A better title – can you trust Der Movement?

I have a distinct dislike for the journalistic class as a whole. They do not so much report news as collectively make the news, according to a peculiar pack mentality, which combines commonly-agreed designated good guys and bad guys, but also sometimes brutal and erratic shifts collective opinion, not according to the whims of an official chief, but a strange and disturbing hive mind.

A better version:

I have a distinct dislike for Der Movement as a whole. It does not so much report the truth about race as collectively distort the truth, according to a peculiar Nordicist and/or HBD pack mentality, which combines commonly-agreed designated good ethnies and bad ethnies, but also sometimes brutal and erratic shifts collective opinion, not according to the whims of an official chief, but a strange and disturbing hive mind.

Odds and Ends, Liddell

Liddell, etc.

“I think gays can be particularly useful to the alt-right,” Alternative Right editor Colin Liddell told me. “Our movement is a revolutionary and taboo-busting movement, and gays have the right ‘psychological equipment’ for that. And, because of their lack of immediate family, gays often have a stronger feeling for their ‘wider family.’ The left has successfully displaced this sentiment to the fake ‘gay community’ or to leftist causes in general, but the true wider family for gays is their particular tribal or ethnic group.”

Of course, Liddell was writing for Counter-Currents in 2016-2017.  Later, in 2019, with that podcast with Forney and Friberg, the “Grand Alt Right Feud” was underway.  Like Spencer, Liddell’s attitude toward homosexualism changed based on “movement” feuding. In contrast, the attitude of EGI Notes has been consistent.  On the one hand, I believe that a homosexual can be a useful activist as long as they don’t promote a homosexual agenda within racial activism. On the other hand, I agree with “Common Sense Counselor” that homosexuals shouldn’t be leaders – but otherwise, as long as no agenda is being pushed, being activists is fine.  Unfortunately, those I am aware of do in fact push an agenda.

In response to this retarded Liddell essay (not surprisingly at the Jew HBD Unz site) we read this (apparently from the same Zman I otherwise critique):

Z-man says:

January 25, 2019 at 6:40 am GMT • 300 Words

Blaa, blaa, blaa, a lot of typical, rehashed critique of the Italian war effort.

Italy wasn’t ancient Rome in 1939. Germany, Britain and France had surpassed ‘The Boot’ in technology since the industrial revolution. Mussolini’s own economics minister told him that Italy would not be ready for a modern war until 1942. They aided the Germans in the Battle of Britain with Fiat bi-planes going against sleek Spitfires and didn’t have any large numbers of modern fighters until, yep you guessed it, 1942. Their Navy lacked radar but their submarines and commando divers still did a lot of damage to British shipping and the Royal Navy. The Army had lighter tanks compared to the heavier more modern British ones.

True the Italian people weren’t convinced of fighting against the British or French or even the Russians but that is a testament to their intelligence and realistic attitudes not apathy. They eventually did fight anyway. In Africa they met with defeat at the hands of better armed British forces but poor Italian leadership and tactics also were to blame as they spread their forces thin along the coast. But they did regroup before the Germans came to help. When Rommel came in with his Afrika Korps most of the troops under his command were still Italian. In fact the first defeat of the US Army were at the hands of mostly Italian units in the Kasserine pass in Tunisia. As for Russia the German positions were almost hopeless on all fronts including the flank defended by the Italians. The carnage there was immense. Once the Allies invaded Sicily yes the Italians gave up too quickly but the writing was on the wall. Still ten thousand allied troops died in Sicily, many at the hands of discouraged Italian troops. If Hitler had been assassinated in ’44 the Germans would have probably surrendered at that point, a year earlier, to the Allies also.

The case of Adam Gemeli, the UK sprinter that Lemaitre narrowly beat for the 200m, seems to indicate this. As an athlete of Persian and Moroccan descent, Gemeli is “near-White” and physically could pass as a Southern European.

This is the obviously non-White Gemeli, who no sane person would confuse with a Southern European.

Liddell is crazed.  Note that Liddell wrote that at Counter-Currents, where Johnson shills for homosexuality on the pretext that opposing homosexuality is like Nordic vs. Mediterranean divisive conflict.

It’s Der Alt Right.


I agree that Joyeux Noel is a good movie, about a brief incident of pan-European amity amidst an ethnonationalist bloodbath.  Thanks ethnonationalism – you’ve done so much for us!  There are still ethnonationalist filth today who openly promote self-described petty nationalism.  Enemies all.


By the way, one unfortunate part of that movie was that the “German” officer was portrayed as Jewish, despite looking Germanic and displaying typically Germanic behavior.  A very incongruent note among an otherwise excellent film.

In Der News

More odds and ends.

Absolutely, atrociously disgusting.  The problem is that the Quota Queens not only discredit and embarrass themselves.  Their pathetically humiliating and moronic stupidity smears all WNs by unfortunate association in the public mind.

Now let us all sit back and watch this latest Man on White Horse Syndrome debacle unfold…for the umpteenth time.

Once again, EGI Notes will be a bastion of sanity among a sea of “movement” madness. Just as this site rode the waves of the Trump hysteria, and coasted with a bemused eye through the Alt Right fever, so shall we all get though the Yang Gang Bang.

Understanding the human history of Amren 2006.

On the one hand, this is generally interesting and informative (but reflecting the author’s own biases).  But – he talks about himself?  And in a serious, non-ironic manner?*  Anyway, I’ve written about this Liddell before – just another typical “movement” ethnic fetishist.  And – who knows? – maybe “living in Japan” should be reserved for individuals of Japanese ethnicity? That would affirmatively be the “Right” thing to do, eh?

Indeed, perhaps Liddell should leave the great and good Japanese people alone to develop according to their own inner imperative.  For example, look here for an example of how the people of Nagasaki recovered from the atomic bombing to develop a scientific, architectural, and cultural artifact that the West can only dream of matching. Western Man stands in humble awe at that Oriental magnificence.

Have you ever noticed that so many of these ethnonationalist, ethnic fetishist, Alt Right, Alt Lite, and national conservative types like living in other people’s countries?  One fellow lives in Japan.  Another in Georgia.  Two in in Hungary.  One in Romania and another in Italy. None of these are of the ethnic origins indigenous to the nations in which they live, but they are all ethnonationalists, you see. The ones who live in Romania and Italy critique the nations in which they live and then take native women as their wives.  Incredible.  This is not ethnonationalism. It is ethnoimperialism.  All these racial aristocrats will live where they damn please, you see, and do whatever they want, after all, what are the dumb wogs going to do about it? 

Hey!  According to the great and good Desmond Jones, the White race is a “twentieth century Jewish construct.”

During the debates, congressmen sometimes used the word “European” rather than “white,” but it is clear that there was unanimity on this point: the United States was to be exclusively for white people.

So, late 18th century America: European = White.  The fetishists shown to be fundamentally dishonest, once again.

The metamorphosis into a neocon shill is approaching completion.

All of this material to work with, all of this White dissatisfaction, angst, and fear for the future, and all the Quota Queens can give us is “let’s support Chinaman Yang’s efforts to defuse White anger.”  They’re pathetic.

Roissy and Mangan weep bitter low-carb tears.

So much winning!  Black Nationalism of course will still be allowed, as per the original article.  Note that the decision was made in consultation with anti-White “experts” with White nationalists not being allowed to explain their position.

Anyone who argues that White Nationalism and White Separatism are the same as “White Supremacy” is so fundamentally dishonest they should be considered as peddling the equivalence of sociopolitical malpractice.  And by censoring political expression – and only from the pro-White side – they are virtually guaranteeing that more violence will occur. That’s the ultimate objective I suppose, so it can be used to justify more repression.

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*Obviously my own references to the crazy and bitter no good Ted Sallis are sarcastic and ironic.

More Alt Right Stupidity

More “movement” stupidity.

Getting back to a point made here, one needs to remember that Liddell has a history of fossilized “movement” ethnic fetishism, previously noted, for example here and also here.

Of course, one cannot forget this either (emphasis added):

Perhaps worst vice in our circles is accusing one’s opponents of being “controlled opposition” or enemy agents without adequate evidence. Mike Cernovich has said it about Richard Spencer. Ramzpaul and Colin Liddell have said it about Andrew Anglin…but calling people informants without evidence should be an absolute taboo — right up there with doxing our own people to settle petty scores — as it undermines the trust that is the foundation of every functional movement. The enemy spends a great deal of time sowing distrust in our ranks. So the suspicion of being an enemy agent should fall back on anyone who throws around that charge without evidence. They stand convicted by their own flimsy standards of evidence.

Certainly a well-rounded contributor to Der Movement, indeed!   To be fair, the same should apply to those who call – with no evidence whatsoever – Spencer a “CIA asset.”


The “Buck Negger” Trump is once again asserting his desire to do comprehensive immigration reform.


Cuckadoodledoo!  But, hey. Let’s concentrate instead on Trump’s “negs” and handshakes – more important no doubt.


Read this.

I observed no equivalent of jock culture; the overall dearth of masculinity among Nordic men is not a secret. Guys are mostly thin, well dressed, polite, and unprepared for a fight.

When Sunic made a similar point some years ago – albeit with less polite language – he was vilified.  Perhaps this author would be better received. One wonders – compare the modern description of “Nordic men” compared to that of the time of Karl X Gustav and, of course, earlier than that, the Vikings.  A Kempian racial “historian” of the future may as well claim that this drastic change in behavior has been due to “racial admixture.”  That’s not the case of course, and in cases like this, Frost’s “genetic pacification” is a more likely explanation – and for the Classical World as well.