Category: Nordicism

More Alt Right Stupidity

More “movement” stupidity.

Getting back to a point made here, one needs to remember that Liddell has a history of fossilized “movement” ethnic fetishism, previously noted, for example here and also here.

Of course, one cannot forget this either (emphasis added):

Perhaps worst vice in our circles is accusing one’s opponents of being “controlled opposition” or enemy agents without adequate evidence. Mike Cernovich has said it about Richard Spencer. Ramzpaul and Colin Liddell have said it about Andrew Anglin…but calling people informants without evidence should be an absolute taboo — right up there with doxing our own people to settle petty scores — as it undermines the trust that is the foundation of every functional movement. The enemy spends a great deal of time sowing distrust in our ranks. So the suspicion of being an enemy agent should fall back on anyone who throws around that charge without evidence. They stand convicted by their own flimsy standards of evidence.

Certainly a well-rounded contributor to Der Movement, indeed!   To be fair, the same should apply to those who call – with no evidence whatsoever – Spencer a “CIA asset.”


The “Buck Negger” Trump is once again asserting his desire to do comprehensive immigration reform.


Cuckadoodledoo!  But, hey. Let’s concentrate instead on Trump’s “negs” and handshakes – more important no doubt.


Read this.

I observed no equivalent of jock culture; the overall dearth of masculinity among Nordic men is not a secret. Guys are mostly thin, well dressed, polite, and unprepared for a fight.

When Sunic made a similar point some years ago – albeit with less polite language – he was vilified.  Perhaps this author would be better received. One wonders – compare the modern description of “Nordic men” compared to that of the time of Karl X Gustav and, of course, earlier than that, the Vikings.  A Kempian racial “historian” of the future may as well claim that this drastic change in behavior has been due to “racial admixture.”  That’s not the case of course, and in cases like this, Frost’s “genetic pacification” is a more likely explanation – and for the Classical World as well.

Race in Der News: 7/16/17

Stupidity in der news.

An Amren commentator gets dangerously close to uncovering the truth behind Silk Road White nationalism:

R Sagan  American Tax Payer • 15 hours ago

Don’t forget that Chinese female spies are actually trained to marry White men (no joke) to infiltrate the culture and steal resources. Way to go race-mixing White guys!

Chinese infiltrators are also sucking up many spots in our best universities because we need “diversity” and Asians have 300 IQs and are the model minority or whatever. Thanks cuckservatives!

Chinese workers are hired by overly trusting White people, who subsequently get everything in their company stolen from under them. Way to go businessmen!

Let me add: cunning Asiatrices are allowed to infiltrate White nationalism and wreck said nationalist activism for Asiatic advantange.  Way to go thirsty beta male White race traitors!

Looks exactly like Dolph Lundgren!  No, wait, it’s an Afro-Arab slave, who replaced real Romans, and whose descendants are the modern degenerate Afrowop!  No, wait it’s a (likely well-off) middle-aged man, unlikely to be a slave, so – it’s a med conspiracy!  The reconstruction was altered in response to ‘an offer you can’t refuse.”  No, wait…


Related to that last story, fossilized “movement” dogma alert:

…that’s who the ancient Greeks and Romans were — in fact Whiter than present day Greeks and Italians.


Which led to the following comment:


Dorian28 • 2 hours ago
So Collin, what evidence can you present that the Ancient Greeks where ‘whiter’ than modern ones?
If you look at artwork from the oldest Greek civilization, they are entirely brunettes or having olive skin:
http://www.greek-thesaurus

No worries, I’m sure Colin has read dat dere March of the Titans and Who We Are, and no other evidence is required!  


The Alt Right is nothing more or less than the same Old Movement dressed up in Beavis-and-Butthead style to be more palatable to the Millennial/social media crowd.  These nitwits wouldn’t recognize an original idea if it was staring them right in the face.

Der Movement Parallax

Analyzing some important points.

Read this.

For 15 long years, beleaguered Rhodesia maintained near total tactical military supremacy in the region despite severe weapon, materiel, and manpower shortages. Yet, military victory bereft of a strategic vision and clearly delineated political objectives is ultimately self-defeating. The political objectives of Rhodesia changed throughout the course of the war. Initially Rhodesia sought to maintain White minority rule, later hoped to create an African puppet regime, and finally sought nothing more than a seat at the proverbial “multicultural table.” This last political objective sealed the fate of tiny Rhodesia, and led to the pogrom of White genocide presently occurring in southern Africa. The nation of Rhodesia faced a series of overwhelming odds since its inception as a sovereign nation, but its greatest threat was its internal lack of strategic aim. This is a mistake we cannot afford to make.

This is very true.  A fundamental error that is often made is confusing strategy with tactics, and vice versa.  Means and ends are not the same; objectives and the tools to achieve those objectives are not the same.  One problem with mainstreaming is precisely this; the idea is to “mainstream” in order to “achieve (and maintain) power” so the power can be used to “preserve race and culture.”  Very laudable. Let’s put aside the empirically determined fact that mainstreaming simply doesn’t work.  Let us assume it does work.  What happens when selfish human nature takes over and the attainment and maintenance of political power ends up being the ultimate objective, the end, rather than as means to achieve racial-cultural objectives?  You may object: the same power-fetish may occur even with a vanguardist strategy.  That’s true, but less likely. The farther one’s “everyday” activity is separated from their ultimate objective, then the easier it is to lose sight of that objective. Mainstreaming is, in theory, a way to actualize vanguardism; vanguardism in turn is (in theory if you will) a way to achieve racial-cultural goals.  Being one major step removed from the alleged “real objective” makes mainstreaming more susceptible for activists to give up on their supposed goals and pursue political power for its own sake.  Vanguardists, on the other hand, live in “racial extremism” on an everyday basis and are less likely to lose sight of the objective that is “in their face” on a constant basis. Vanguardists are thus more likely, in my opinion, to understand, and remain focused on, the strategic aim.

As Greg Johnson articulated in New Right versus Old Right, white racial survival is the ultimate goal of White Nationalism, but I would go one step further and say we must explore not only how to survive, but also how to thrive racially as one people.

Fair enough.  Preservation is the first step.  Overcoming and progress comes next.

The policy failures and lack of strategic vision of former Rhodesia mirror those of the contemporary White Nationalist movement. The survival of the White race is imperative, but whites will only succeed if they maintain unity; in what form this “unity” manifests itself, and how centralized or decentralized it is, is open to debate. In order to reach our peoples greatest potential, we must seek unity of both race and thought, and harmonize these into a new European/White ecumene. 

There may be truth in this.  But it is a futile exercise to attempt to get everyone in the “movement” on board with a common vision.  It’s not going to happen.  Out of the morass – or perhaps from a fresh direction – a dominant memetic structure will emerge. Whether that will be the right direction, or a disaster, remains to be determined.

In Ricardo Duchesne’s penultimate work, The Uniqueness of Western Civilization, Duchesne rightly speculates that a penchant for rational abstraction is the hallmark for White racial success. From this ancestral proclivity new and old ideas must be forged, crafted in a manner conducive to White unity. We’ve all borne witness to the perils of abstraction run amok, such as diversity for the sake of diversity and so-called “human rights”, but abstraction, when grounded in blood and soil and beholden to a people rather than to a proposition like universal equality, can produce a clarity of vision commensurate with the greatness of our race. I’m not opting for ideological orthodoxy or an outright purge, but I am suggesting that we as a movement begin a dialogue towards what we can and cannot accept.

Again, I’m doubtful that the feuding activists of Der Movement – all Chiefs and no Indians – will come to such a consensus.

Rhodesia wasn’t able to formulate a clear sense of strategic national purpose, because they couldn’t decide what they could and could not accept. Pragmatism is the basis of power politics, but it must be grounded by an immoveable set of axiomatic principles. 

That’s correct, and why mainstreaming is bad even if it would be politically successful – because there pragmatism itself becomes the “immovable axiomatic principle.”

Our lack of a cohesive vision is tantamount to a proverbial arming of the natives, and the natives are getting restless.

True, but, again, one cannot force a collective vision on a collection of individuals and mini-groups who cannot even decide on the parameters of “Us” vs. “Them.”  The Us/Them division is the fundamental characteristic of what a group is; if even that cannot be agreed upon, then there is no group.

Old hostilities and petty ethnic rivalries exacerbated an already precarious military and political situation. Intra-racial division, aside from contributing to Rhodesian political incongruity, proved deleterious to the war effort by limiting the mobilization of the population…

Let’s have more dem dere narrow ethnonationalism, as well as more divisive Guntherite racial theories!  That’ll bring folks together in unity, no doubt! 

We contemporary White Nationalists find ourselves in similar circumstances. The rampant division within our movement, though generally not based upon intraracial ethnic distinctions…

“…not based upon intraracial ethnic distinctions…”  Uh, I think the author of this piece just missed the last century of failed racial nationalism.  “Intraracial ethnic distinctions” constitute the first major division of “movement” disagreement.  If one wanted to do a memetic “PCA plot” of Der Movement, then the subracial/ethnic question would be the first major axis of variation.

Like our former Rhodesian brothers, our numbers, though growing, are few and the upcoming struggles will require mobilization of our entire movement for the survival of our race.

Not going to work. You need to find the optimal segment of Der Movement – or better yet start a New Movement beginning with first principles – and build your unity out of that.

European civilization has always been conflicted, agonal in nature, and historically our propensity for low-level kinship violence has been evolutionarily beneficial. 

Perhaps in the past, not the present.  The definition of what is “evolutionarily beneficial” (i.e., adaptive) depends on the environmental context.

However, in the midst of possible racial extinction, it’s of the utmost importance that internecine movement division stop. But how can division stop, particularly if we begin to explore new strategic paradigms, as dialogue breeds division?

Good question.

Put simply, we can stop division through dialectical synthesis. The musical virtuoso J.S. Bach wasn’t simply a master composer and performer; he was first and foremost a “synthesist” and thus able to harmoniously weld together an eclectic assortment of European musical styles into a cohesive melody. More to the point, like the works of Bach, we in the White Nationalist movement must shed the detritus of the past and form a new metapolitical imperative based upon a thoughtful, long-term strategy and movement unity. Strength in numbers is a very real thing, and as was the case for our Rhodesian ancestors it will be a deciding factor in our movement’s life or death.

That’s not an answer.  It’s hand-waving.  How to, in real-world terms, practically speaking, create the unity the author refers to?  Actually and precisely, how?

Native Africa never truly overcame the so-called “k-factor,” though it did receive outside help from a variety of forces, from international finance to Communist China…

A side note: Asians are always going to be on the forces of anti-Whitism and anti-Westernism.  Yockey understood that.  Can today’s yellow fever fetishists understand that as well?

My criticisms aside, I liked this article and believe the author is on the right track, sort of. But I myself went through this stage, long ago, of thinking that the entire “movement” could unite around some fundamental principles, have unity, and move forward.  Not possible.  As I said, the “movement” cannot even agree on the most basic distinction of all – Us/Them – how is anything else possible?  The author it seems wants to make “preservation and advancement of the White race” as the “immoveable axiomatic principle” – good luck with that since Der Movement cannot agree on what the “White race” is and who does or does not belong to it.  

So, while the author’s heart is in the right place I have to tell his head: it’s not that simple. It’s not like others haven’t come to similar conclusions before.  It just doesn’t work that way in reality.  The solution for him, personally, is either find a segment of the “movement” that fits his perspectives and try and build that segment into the dominant activist vehicle, or, if no such suitable segment exists, then help build a new one from the ground up.

Hunter-Gatherers Again

It’s dem dere hunter gatherers!

More of the same.


The main part of my talk traces to evolutionary roots in the hunter-gatherer culture that is especially prominent in northern Europe.

Yes, sir!  Unfortunately suicidal pathological altruism seems especially prominent in Italy as well.

Must be all those Celto-Germanic Nordic Northern Italians!  Salvini looks like Dolph Lundgren’s younger brother!  Of course it’s the Salvini types who are the ones most in opposition to the invaders…

And the “movement” wheel just goes on turning, turning, turning….

In all seriousness, look at this chart (and note where it was posted!).

On the individualism-collectivism scale, Italy is in the same range as Sweden, and is more individualistic than the hunter-gatherer-enriched nations of Germany, Austria, Estonia, Poland, and Finland – never mind Russia!.  If we want to look outside Europe, then Northeast Asians, who are, so we are told, descended from Asian hunter-gatherers, are sky-high on the collectivist side.

To put it mildly, looking at that chart one cannot see any clear correlation between hunter-gatherer ancestry and individualism.

That is one major problem I have with Der Movement, particularly its Alt Wrong HBD faction. They are so emotionally invested in their theories (hello, Richard Lynn!) that they are not willing or able to deal with contrary data. The whole Popperian scientific method is foreign to them; instead, they are highly Kuhnian indeed.  They have their paradigm, and they’ll continue making up ad hoc explanations for poor data fits until the whole intellectual edifice collapses.

Isn’t it better to refine – or change – the paradigm before that happens?  Isn’t it better not to wait for anti-White leftists to point out the obvious flaws?  Isn’t it better to first listen to rightists who repeatedly warn you that there are serious flaws in your paradigm?  If you have scientifically valid explanations, then give them?  Just repeating the same things over and over again does not address the issues at hand.

They Wuz Dumb

Laughable.

Leave it up to the retarded “movement” to take a (initial, preliminary*) refutation of Arthur Kemp and twist it into “Arthur Kemp was right.”

From the paper (emphasis added):

…reveals that the three ancient Egyptians differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient…Finally, we used two methods to estimate the fractions of sub-Saharan African ancestry in ancient and modern Egyptians. Both qpAdm35 and the f4-ratio test39 reveal that modern Egyptians inherit 8% more ancestry from African ancestors than the three ancient Egyptians do, which is also consistent with the ADMIXTURE results discussed above. Absolute estimates of African ancestry using these two methods in the three ancient individuals range from 6 to 15%, and in the modern samples from 14 to 21% depending on method and choice of reference population…

Yeah…so Kemp was saying that Ancient Egyptians were akin to Near Easterners and with 6-15% Negro African ancestors?  That’s the “Nordic desert empire?”  

You do know that my criticisms of Der Movement and its blind adherence to fossilized dogma is correct, don’t you?  Even when presented with data right to their face that begins the refutation of their dogma, they’ll actually believe their dogma is supported.  Blind religious faith.  

Hail Kek!  We wuz morons!

*Given that Der Movement uses three autosomal samples to declare “Kemp was right” one is justified in using the same small sample size to say “no, he wasn’t.”  Obviously, more data are needed, but getting reasonably good nuclear data from these ancient samples is problematic (as the paper showed).

Rotten Orange and “Movement” News

The usual stupidity.

Trump the cuck, who has been “cucking on the Orient Express.”  Jared and Ivanka have their political affiliations revealed – certainly befitting the “royal family” of a “God Emperor,” no?

Meet Jeremy Christian.  The “movememt” will of course try to distance itself from Christian, despite the fact that he’s a fairly representative snapshot of the Nutzi faction that lurks on, and often participates in, “movement” blog comments threads.

But, but. But…I thought Ancient Egypt was, a la Arthur Kemp, a “Nordic desert empire?”  It’s the New Kingdom, after all, that was the peak of Ancient Egypt’s political and military power – their empire period.

Of course, given that only the nuclear DNA is of any use for racial affiliation, this is only three individuals. But still, it’s interesting that the available data so far refute both Afrocentrist and Nordicist interpretations of Ancient Egypt.

Of Declines and Falls

Not always an alien influx followed by racial admixture.

One of Der Movement’s favorite memes is the idea that national decline and the fall of civilizations always have an external racial basis – i.e., the decline and fall occurs as a result of some sort of alien influx followed by “racial admixture.”

A look at history provides many counter-examples.  Consider the Italian Renaissance, centered on North-Central Italy, particularly Tuscany-Florence. The great intellectual ferment there changes the world and then essentially vanished, all without the influx/admixture model being relevant.  What happened to the great Italian artists like Michelangelo and the all-around figures like Alberti and da Vinci?  Where are the great German composers today?  After Nietzsche and Heidegger, what happened to German philosophy?  What happened to French culture and French martial glory? Where’s the English Dickens and Shakespeare today?  Isn’t it true that the Third World influx into Great Britain occurred after, not before, they lost their empire?  Spain lost their empire, but that empire was formed after they had thrown off centuries of Arabic rule; it wasn’t that the “Arab influx” was responsible for Spain’s fall.  Does anyone really believe Portugal lost their empire because of “an influx of Negro blood?”  Was it really possible for a small nation like Portugal could maintain their lead in exploration and colonization after larger European nations got involved?  Did “racial admixture” lose the Netherlands most of their overseas possessions?  Did the transformation of Scandinavians from Vikings to SJW social democrats involve “racial admixture” or did the alien invasion of that part of Europe occur after the behavioral and cultural changes?

In these cases, to the extent the problem was biological, it was internal – dysgenics including the counter-selective effects of war, Frost’s genetic pacification, and the breeding of the unfit and the botched – as well as cultural/historical (Spengler?).  In many cases, alien influx and admixture, when it has occurred, was the consequence, not the cause, of decline. One can speculate that the Ancient World was similar.  In some cases of course, admixture may have caused decline (Ancient Egypt?  The Middle East?) but that’s as much the exception as it is the rule.

But Der Movement can’t get is head around such ideas, just as their heavy breathing about Paleolithic/Neolithic differences in Europe typically doesn’t understand that such differences were in place long before the beginnings of the Ancient World’s Classical Civilizations.

I would invoke “cognitive dissonance” here, but that implies some sort of cognitive process to begin with.


A note:


It’s a bit humorous that the same Alt Right that has disdain for S. Italians also has an obsessive man-crush on Julius Evola who is described thus:

Giulio Cesare Andrea Evola was born in Rome to a minor aristocratic family of Sicilian origins.


Again, I could say “cognitive dissonance” but that implies some degree of cognitive function, and I’m not sure how much of that Der Movement actually has.