Category: Nordicism

Race and Movement News, 5/28/20

It’s Der Rasse and Der Movement.

Very cognitive, very elite.

But, but, but…I thought we were all the same (emphasis added):

Vitamin D insufficiency is more prevalent among African Americans (blacks) than other Americans and, in North America, most young, healthy blacks do not achieve optimal 25-hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D] concentrations at any time of year. This is primarily due to the fact that pigmentation reduces vitamin D production in the skin. Also, from about puberty and onward, median vitamin D intakes of American blacks are below recommended intakes in every age group, with or without the inclusion of vitamin D from supplements. Despite their low 25(OH)D levels, blacks have lower rates of osteoporotic fractures. This may result in part from bone-protective adaptations that include an intestinal resistance to the actions of 1,25(OH)2D and a skeletal resistance to the actions of parathyroid hormone (PTH). However, these mechanisms may not fully mitigate the harmful skeletal effects of low 25(OH)D and elevated PTH in blacks, at least among older individuals. Furthermore, it is becoming increasingly apparent that vitamin D protects against other chronic conditions, including cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and some cancers, all of which are as prevalent or more prevalent among blacks than whites. Clinicians and educators should be encouraged to promote improved vitamin D status among blacks (and others) because of the low risk and low cost of vitamin D supplementation and its potentially broad health benefits.

Coulter leads the way!  To Dinesh’s bedroom?  In Trump We Trust!  Coulter leads the way indeed.  Here’s one example, submitted without further comment.

Please compare this…

…with this.

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement marches on.

Behold HBD-Nordicism (TOO comment excerpt):

I believe all the world’s peoples could do worse than to adopt the US Constitution for themselves. But that type of order depends upon a high level of both individualism and social trust, which are sadly lacking among most non-Anglo-Nordics (and esp most nonwhites), and which are greatly attenuated by coercive geographical and political integration with nonwhites. IOWs, the American Order was designed for Anglo-Nordics, and would have worked very well with them alone as the citizenry. The more genetically and ethnoculturally distant the peoples we have admitted into the Union, the greater has been the sacrifice of individual rights and liberties for the Old Stock, and the worse has been the functioning of the country.

Certainly!  That’s why we need to ditch folks like (smothered with a pillow) Scalia, who understood nothing of the US Constitution, and embrace folks like LBJ, whose “civil rights laws” were the epitome of individualist freedom.

Note to readers of EGI Notes: Who has been telling you that Der Movement has NOTHING to offer to “White ethnics?” Whenever shabbos sud stepandfetichits get involved in Der Movement, it never goes well for them. Four examples, in chronological order: Patler, Tommasi, Sallis, Conte.  Polignano counts as “half” here, a half-sud stepandfetchit; the rest I suppose would be a horrendous hibernian stepandfetchit.  Speaking of the latter – what ever happened to Michael O’Meara?

Let’s embrace those individualist Swedes…or not (emphasis added):

Swedish mentality seems to have two opposing tendencies: one towards individualism and the other towards collectivity. The explanation for this is the different meaning that can be given to the concept of individualism. Swedes seem to need social autonomy strongly and not to be dependent on other individuals, such as neighbors, relatives, employers, and so on. At the same time, Swedes seem to need collective support for their opinions. Collective solutions are a hallmark of Swedish society and dominate Swedish politics. Survey data are used to illustrate this theme empirically.

MacDonald weeps.

Seriously though, the ethnies much beloved by Der Movement combine the worst aspects of individualism and collectivism. When it comes the need for collective ethnocentric action in defense of ethny, then they are radical individualists.  When it comes to the need to defy societal political correctness, then they are conformist collectivists.  Somehow though, that is the epitome of all that is admirable. Hmmm…the “Anatolian farmer” cringing subhumans seem to be a bit saner, but what do I know?

To write this after Dutton exposed Rushton demonstrates how completely shameless the “race realists” are.

Interesting, interesting.  Brimelow’s pushy rudeness is astounding.  How about letting Taylor finish his sentences?    Note Taylor is in communication with Red Ice.  I’m shocked, shocked I say. Taylor likes the “private sector,” on “principle.”  Another shock.  Naivete?  Shocked thrice. Ludicrously optimistic?  Quadruple shocked.

I note no discussion of why Brimelow earned $180,000+ compensation in one year, according to the 2018 Form 990.  

Trump – silly?  I thought he was “the last hope for White America?”  Down the memory hole, it seems.

Well…Taylor remembers the “latrine flies” jibe from Derbyshire.  Why is Derb a speaker at the conferences, then?

Immigrant workforce – like Brimelow?

How is “White advocate” not poltroonery?  I am also disgusted how Brimelow and Johnson are redefining “White nationalism” to merely mean “defending White interests.” No, you affirmative action DISTORTERS, White nationalism is a movement that considers White racial identity as the highest form of nationalist identification – Our Race Is Our Nation, putting race above ethnic and nation-state identities.  That’s White nationalism.

Against Casey and MacDonald

This needs to be addressed.
An imbecilic and stupid post by another of Counter-Currents’ horrendous new crop of writers.So how should white advocates view abortion and euthanasia? At the very least, with a heavy dose of skepticism. Ideally, we would view them as Hippocrates viewed them, as an insult to life and to holiness. Our people are precious “from cradle to grave,” as the Catholics say.Should we then be working to outlaw abortion and euthanasia? Perhaps. Such affronts to holiness will likely be unthinkable in a white ethnostate.Thus, people dying in agonizing pain, people whose bodies are wrecked to the point that daily life is pointless and holds no meaning for them, people slowly and horribly dying of incurable diseases, people desperate for an end to their pain and suffering, must be kept alive because pathetic religious freaks have to impose their values of “holiness” on the rest of us.
We can give dogs and cats relief from suffering, but we force people to endure a living hell so Jesus freaks can feel good about themselves.  How despicable, how pompous, how deluded in the extremity of narcissism.  Excuse me, you stupid yeastbucket, you ignorant hole, who are you do tell me or anyone else what to do with our lives?  
Women have no business being medical doctors, a profession best left to the adults in the room – men.

Pathetic hand-waving:

MacDonald’s reply:  Again, as noted, I have no quarrel with the idea that the Indo-Europeans were an elite dominating a native indigenous population. My point was that Mycenaean civilization was an Indo-European culture. There is no real evidence for that.And my comment emphasized increasing I-E genetic contribution over time, suggesting selection for I-E genes. Really – now get this:The most recent samples studied by Mathieson et al. date from 1100 BC, and the most recent samples studied by Lazaridis et al. date from around 1200 BC—toward the end of Mycenaean civilization. Thus the data do not shed much light on the genetic constitution of classical Greece—the flowering of classical Greek culture dated to the fourth and fifth centuries BC that epitomized so much of what we think of as Western culture. This is certainly time enough for selection or incursion of steppe-derived genes, but as yet there are no genetic studies I am aware of for this later period. Doubly mendacious.  First, because there are not (currently) genetic samples from every era of Greek history, particularly “the flowering of classical Greek culture dated to the fourth and fifth centuries BC that epitomized so much of what we think of as Western culture” then MacDonald is free to “posit” and “suggest” and assert “reasonable” comments about his theories in the absence of any real evidence whatsoever.
Second, above he says “And my comment emphasized increasing I-E genetic contribution over time, suggesting selection for I-E genes” but now it is “the data do not shed much light on the genetic constitution of classical Greece…there are no genetic studies I am aware of for this later period.”
There’s no genetic evidence for the period, which allows him to “posit” whatever he wishes, but, at the same time, there is evidence of “increasing I-E genetic contribution over time, suggesting selection for I-E genes.”  What evidence?  I thought you just said there was no evidence?  All you have now are the previously mentioned Ancient Greek samples as well as modern Greeks, who the HBD Nordicists consider to be cringing subhumans.  So, where’s the evidence for in between those population end points?Further, there continues to be uncertainty regarding the causes of violent collapse of Mycenaean civilization inaugurating the Greek “Dark Age” (~1200BC–~750BC) of “isolation, introversion, and instability” (Hall, 2013, 82). Well, yes, we can “posit” that the Herrenvolk wrecked the Mycenaean civilization and caused a Dark Age the same as they did to the Western Roman Empire…and what their SJW descendants are doing to the West today.More importantly for present purposes is the identity of the people who later formed classical Greek culture. There is a long history of proposing a “Dorian invasion” from the north which altered spoken dialects from Achaean to Dorian as well as aspects of culture (e.g., knowledge of ironworking and a shift to individualized burial practices (Hall, 2013, p. 70; Nagy, 2019), the latter suggesting a more individualist culture. First, details about  the Dorian invasion are questionable, as regards real scholarship.
Second, even if we “posit” a Dorian invasion as MacDonald prefers, the Athenians considered themselves Ionian, not Dorian, and some scholars – to the extent that they take the Dorian hypotheses seriously – explain the Athenian-Spartan conflict as an ethnic one.  The “flowering” of Greek culture was more Athenian than Spartan, wasn’t it?T his began as a literary tradition and persisted for nine centuries, down to the first century AD and remains the “most economical hypothesis,” although the Dorian invasion hypothesis purporting to explain it remains unproven (Hall, 2013, p. 68). Remains unproven!  Well, yes, but that doesn’t stop some from invoking a Kempite Dorian Herrenvolk influx to “posit” and “suggest” “reasonable” explanations, does it?As noted, genetic data on the people responsible for classical Greek civilization are lacking; however, it is reasonable to posit a shift toward increased steppe contribution, not only during the Mycenaean period (Mathieson et al., 2018), but continuing thereafter given that genetic changes may occur quite quickly (Cochran & Harpending, 2010).“Reasonable to posit” – those weasel words again.  “Genetic data on the people responsible for classical Greek civilization are lacking” – but he’ll make conclusions regardless, or “posit” conclusions.  Note also how MacDonald’s more conciliatory and equivocal tone differs here in this review response differs from the more dogmatically HBD tone of self-congratulatory certainty at The Occidental Observer when writing on these issues, mirrored by the sweaty amen corner commentariot, who, like with all personality cults centered on gurus (like Jewish movements, eh?), personally attack critics (“Meisenberg is a mendacious Jew”) – attacks that do not receive any rebuke from MacDonald himself.
Further, do I really need to point out that the fact that “genetic changes may occur quite quickly” does not mean that they will occur or, more to the point, in this case did occur in the manner asserted by MacDonald?  The work of Cochran and Harpending is here almost irrelevant in the absence of evidence of the asserted changes.
Indeed, one can use that paradigm to “posit” and “suggest” all sorts of “reasonable” genetic selection. Maybe individualist farmer genes were quickly selected for?  Maybe those last century has seen a “rapid genetic change” in favor of hysterically SJW collectivist xenophilic egalitarianism among NW Europeans?  Who knows?  We can all “posit” anything and cherry pick reasons why it is “reasonable.”
Now, there is of course genetic evidence for a relatively small minority influx of steppe ancestry into ancient Southern Europe, overlaying the majority farmer ancestry. One can find remnants of some steppe ancestry in Southern European areas today. That does not change the fact that the overwhelming majority of the ancestry of the peoples of the Classical Civilizations of Ancient Greece and Rome was of farmer derivation.
MacDonald has a clear agenda of disregarding the contribution of farmer ancestry to European history and civilization, privileging instead hunter gatherer and steppe ancestries.  
It seems more “reasonable” to “posit” that the data “suggest” that the majority ancestry had the largest effect; further, civilization did not begin in the Mediterranean basin until the hunter gatherers were predominantly displaced by the farmers.
And, by the way, once again I note the Y axis here.

The Dago Divide

Eyetalian genetics.

It’ll be interesting to see how Italianthro tries to parse this.

In any case, the bottom line is that the differences between North and South Italy are mostly of ancient origin – and while these ancient differences have been reinforced by additional migrations, these additional migrations have not (significantly) added novel components.

Abstract (emphasis added):

The cline of human genetic diversity observable across Europe is recapitulated at a micro-geographic scale by variation within the Italian population. Besides resulting from extensive gene flow, this might be ascribable also to local adaptations to diverse ecological contexts evolved by people who anciently spread along the Italian Peninsula. Dissecting the evolutionary history of the ancestors of present-day Italians may thus improve the understanding of demographic and biological processes that contributed to shape the gene pool of European populations. However, previous SNP array-based studies failed to investigate the full spectrum of Italian variation, generally neglecting low-frequency genetic variants and examining a limited set of small effect size alleles, which may represent important determinants of population structure and complex adaptive traits. To overcome these issues, we analyzed 38 high-coverage whole-genome sequences representative of population clusters at the opposite ends of the cline of Italian variation, along with a large panel of modern and ancient Euro-Mediterranean genomes.

Only 38?!  I realize that high-coverage whole-genome sequencing is not trivial, but 38 is an absurdly low sample size for a population genetics study.

Results

We provided evidence for the early divergence of Italian groups dating back to the Late Glacial and for Neolithic and distinct Bronze Age migrations having further differentiated their gene pools. We inferred adaptive evolution at insulin-related loci in people from Italian regions with a temperate climate, while possible adaptations to pathogens and ultraviolet radiation were observed in Mediterranean Italians. Some of these adaptive events may also have secondarily modulated population disease or longevity predisposition.

Conclusions

We disentangled the contribution of multiple migratory and adaptive events in shaping the heterogeneous Italian genomic background, which exemplify population dynamics and gene-environment interactions that played significant roles also in the formation of the Continental and Southern European genomic landscapes.

Now, this is interesting (emphasis added):

Sharing of chromosome chunks among individuals belonging to the identified population clusters was investigated with CHROMOPAINTER. Accordingly, both Italian groups were found to share similar proportions of DNA segments with Sardinians (N_ITA, 48%; S_ITA, 43%) and Northern Caucasian populations (~ 10%), which have been previously supposed to be suggestive respectively of Early Neolithic and Bronze Age contributions to the ancestral pan-European genetic background [7, 8], while presenting considerably different painting profiles for the rest of their genomes (Fig. 1b). In particular, S_ITA showed substantial sharing (30%) with Near Eastern populations, while this signature is completely absent in N_ITA. Moreover, S_ITA presented 17% of chromosome chunks in common with Southern Caucasian groups in contrast to the 9% observed for N_ITA, although this pattern might be influenced by the fact that populations from Southern Caucasus are genetically close to those from the Near East [77]. N_ITA finally turned out to share DNA segments also with Eastern and Northern European groups (19%) and the Basques (12%), differently from what was observed for S_ITA (Fig. 1b).

CHROMOPAINTER yielded data showing northerners and southerners shared a majority of ancestry, but differed in certain minority affiliations, with a “Near Eastern” component only in the South, while in the North, some “Eastern and Northern European” and “Basque” similarities were found.

Now, here is the key point.  The CHROMOPAINTER data – the same data – were then analyzed with GLOBETROTTER and a significantly different outcome was observed.  Both northerners and southerners were now modeled as a mix of “North European” (and “Basque” for Northern Italians) and “MENA” (“Near Eastern and North African”) – albeit in different proportions.  Thus (emphasis added):

CHROMOPAINTER painting profiles were then used to infer admixture proportions of N_ITA and S_ITA with respect to the other Euro-Mediterranean clusters by calculating co-ancestry curves with the GLOBETROTTER method (see the “Methods” section). Admixture events involving a Northern European (and Basque in the case of N_ITA) gene pool and a Near Eastern/North African source of gene flow were found to have affected both Italian population clusters(Fig. 1c, Additional file 1: Figure S2). Nevertheless, N_ITA and S_ITA showed inverse proportions of these admixture sources, with respectively 59% and 32% of Northern European (and Basque in the case of N_ITA) contribution, coupled with 41% and 68% of Near Eastern and North African one.

While in general the two analyses are similar in that the northerners are “more northern” and the southerners “more southern (as expected), the pattern is different, in that the first analysis was more disjunctive and the second more clinal (and likely more realistic considering Central Italians represent a mid-way point in the clines).

Note also how this is wholly consistent with the many posts I have made being critical and skeptical of “admixture” analyses such as what is shown in this paper – as the outcome is completely dependent on the methodology used (and of course the reference samples used) – so findings vary from paper to paper and here actually vary from method to method within the same paper.  Note, amusingly, how the authors use the word “Nevertheless” to distract the reader from the point that the two methods of analyses yield completely different patterns (e.g. ,the first shows zero “Near Eastern” in northerners, but the second shows 41%!). 

Keep in mind, again, that how you model populations depends on the reference samples used.  And models are just that – models.  Just because you can model a population as a mix of “Northern European” and “MENA” doesn’t mean they literally are such a mix, just that their gene frequencies, when measured against whatever reference samples used, and given the particular methodology used, resemble that more than not.  A different set of reference populations would allow the same sample to be modeled based on those particular references. And we have learned from 23andMe how dependent on context (reference samples, confidence levels, etc.) “chromosome painting” is.  

Indeed, if the authors of this paper wanted to get the results obtained, they certainly used the “appropriate” reference samples and methodology.  And when things go awry, use the word “Nevertheless.”

But there are some general take-away points that likely have some validity.  See this. Thus, in summary, the northerners are more like “South-West Europe” (e.g., Spain) and the southerners more like “South-East Europe” (e.g.., Crete).  But, based on some genetic kinship data I’ve seen for southerners, some overlap must exist (e.g., high S.Italian kinship hits to Tuscany, “Italy” [Bergamo], Basques, French, Sardinia, Iceland, etc.).  

As regards Central Italy (emphasis added):

Gene flow from the Near East instead seems to have affected mainly Central Italy and for a longer period than other regions of the peninsula…people from Central Italy present variable degree of admixture between them, but no additional private ancestry fractions.

Why Central Italy is so much more “Near Eastern” than the other areas is uncertain, perhaps the Etruscan influence or perhaps Imperial Roman influxes

There are also functional data in the paper for those interested, although nothing there about “singing on balconies,” military ineptness, or Schettinoism.

If Der Movement is going to get all excited (*) over these data, I’d advise them to calm down before their priapisms get out of control. Three points to consider from these data (and previous studies) as the Type Is wipe the sweat off their foreheads:

1. That differences exist between Northern and Southern Italians has already been long known (albeit often exaggerated) by virtually everyone except perhaps Italiathro/Racial Reality.  These sorts of studies have been done (repeatedly) already.

2. Northern Italians are not “Celto-Germanic Nordics.”

3. Der Movement’s True Romance racial history of Southern Italy – an initially northern-like population becoming darkened through admixture with (or replacement from) Negroes/Moors – is not correct.

The fundamental differences were in place thousands of years ago, they are very ancient, and are part of the European ethnogenesis of the various types of Italian peoples.

*Of course, Amren breathlessly ran a summary of these data but I don’t recall that they ever focused on the recent study on Ancient Roman genetics. Interesting, no?  Also ignored at that site (but discussed here) are population genetic studies demonstrating the modern Middle Eastern origin of the Jews, the tropical origin of East Asians, and East Asian/Siberian admixture in Northern Europe.  Won’t find that at Amren, but obsession with the wops, yes indeed. Interesting, no?

Odds and Ends, 5/23/20

In der news.  In all cases, emphasis added.


The elegant John Simon unfortunately passed away last fall.  Simon, of Hungarian descent, seems to have been a good man:

In 1981, an ad in a Hollywood trade appeared accusing Simon of being “racist, anti-Semitic, misogynist, vicious and derisive.” It was signed by 300 artists, apparently upset that Simon’s review of Richard III complained that an actress in the show “should never be cast as anything but an itinerant gefilte fish with a nervous condition.”

Well, as we know, obesity is related to higher covid-19 risk.

Meet Ron Unz.

Born in California, to a Ukrainian-Jewish immigrant, Unz was raised in a Yiddish-speaking household. His mother, Esther-Laio Avrutin, met his father on an airplane heading for Israel. A professor from the Midwest, he later briefly became her lover when visiting her on a few occasions in Los Angeles. She unilaterally decided to have a child with him, but Unz’s father was already married and his wife opened a letter from Avrutin telling him about her pregnancy. She was an anti-war activist, who raised her son as a single mother, but Unz was given his father’s surname and soon moved back to her family’s home after her son’s birth.

What about the dangers of cheap Chinese labor?

Due to the Chinese state confiscating supply chains and ethnic Chinese shipping masks in the West back to the homeland, there were so few disposable masks, especially highly effective N95 respirators, available for purchase by Americans that hospitals were having terrible difficulty sourcing personal protective equipment. Perhaps some authority figures understood the reality and thus intentionally misled the American public to preserve crucial facemasks for healthcare workers.

Of interest.

Over the years, Johnson and Spencer have sparred. A lot of the conflict, according to alt-righters, had to do with personal style.(Spencer became the best-known face of the “frat” style, polo-and-chinos alt-right; Johnson has dispensed with such pretenses.) But the tension between them also underscored an ongoing debate about how best to save America from itself. Johnson was seen as the Socrates of the radical right. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy and, before publicly embracing the cause of the white ethnostate, taught at Morehouse College, which is historically black. In Johnson’s view, the far right had to win the war of ideas before it could move on to the “real world” battlefield. That meant books and articles, speaking engagements, conferences, symposia. He had a way of explaining things that made racism and Jew hatred sound like post-structuralism or supply-side economics—something that was once new or avant-garde or even suspect and, over time, acquired a large following.

Spencer was more of a would-be Vladimir Lenin. He also took ideas seriously; he had pursued a Ph.D. at Duke, in intellectual history, before dropping out and moving to D.C. But he was mostly uninterested in ideas divorced from action. He wanted to be in the middle of things. He had pondered a congressional campaign in Montana, where he usually lived. He felt let down by Trump. (“His administration,” Spencer said in an interview, “is not fundamentally different than a [Mitt] Romney administration—or even a Hillary [Clinton] administration. I never expected him to be me. But I expected him to do something.”) The feeling on the alt-right was that Charlottesville had been a disaster because it had left so many members demoralized and fragmented the movement. For Spencer, political outcomes mattered.

Some interesting Twitter comments:

Highbrow Gentleman

@Hibrowgent

@NewRightAmerica

 and 

@ReadLinkola

So disappointing Greg. Stop being so petty.

Aureum

@Aureum_Kolovrat

@NewRightAmerica

 and 

@ReadLinkola

Promoting a #DuggAnon style psyop propaganda from a source with no name is very low ball. 

Please do better. Greg if you disagree with someone then it would be most honorable to debate them instead of smear them with trash like this that sends our spergs down the rabbit hole.

Aureum, you had better watch out, before you’re called “insane” and “indecent.” Debate?  He don’t need no stinkin’ debate!

Well, I’m not optimistic either, for two reasons:

First, the only possible vehicle for complete redemption – racial activism – has been compromised by the incompetent Quota Queen “leadership” and their rank-and-file Nutzi followers, coupled to an inane and “insane” fossilized dogma.

Second, the dominant element among Europeans today is the “high trust northern hunter gatherers.”  While there are – contra the HBD liars – strong elements of pathological altruism in Southern and Eastern Europe, I’ll agree with the HBDers that it is strongest in NW Europe. Having the SJW Herrenvolk captaining the HMS Europa is leading to a bigger disaster than the Titanic.

I was very supportive of Trump during the 2016 election.

Indeed. And, at the same time I was referring to Trump as a “vulgar ignorant buffoon” who I endorsed solely because of the chaos he would bring in his wake (which he did).  Who was right? Who was wrong?

I agree, Greg (except for the invention part, see below). The problem is that some of the people you’ve feuded with can say the same about you.


The “invention” accusation is, unfortunately, a new low in “New Right” discourse.  It’s not enough for Johnson to call his critics “insane” and “indecent” – here he implies that some of them may have been “invented by the enemy.” Criticize him and you are – what?  A CIA asset?  A SPLC or ADL agent? A HopeNotHate operative (no, wait, that’s Hermansson)? A reporter for The Stranger (no, wait, that’s Lewis)?  


You see, disagreeing with someone, criticizing their behavior and ideology and actions, holding them accountable – that makes you a “horrible” person. Or an “invention of the enemy.” 


These types, who have an inflated sense of their own self-importance, have to personalize everything. As I’ve repeatedly written here – my criticism of people in the “movement” is business, not personal. I do not know them personally nor do I care to. Who knows? They may be kind to animals (except whales), generous to strangers, pleasant enough in private interactions, real salt of the Earth.  But if these people – particularly self-styled “leaders” – are in my opinion destructive to the cause, I’m going to call them out on it.  It’s “punching right” – which Johnson approves of (at least when he does it to others).  If the behavior is, in my opinion, hypocritical, mendacious, defamatory, etc., then the criticism will be harsh.  But, also, the thing is this – if the criticism is wrong, then refute it.  Ascribing mental illness to people and/or implying they are some sort of infiltrator or agent provocateur is not a refutation, it is merely ad hominem.


And I wish these types were a bit more paranoid about “invented by the enemy” when it came to Patrik Hermansson and Dave Lewis. That would have saved much trouble and embarrassment.  If you cannot identify real infiltrators but instead suggest that authentic activists are such – well, how does that refute my criticisms about your poor judgment?  Indeed, it does nothing but support and reinforce such criticism.  Do better.


Note that I do not make such accusations here at this blog. The closest to that is the endorsement of an investigation – and only an investigation – to determine if any HBDers have association (directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly) with the Chinese government or any other such operatives.  An investigation is just that – a determination about something unknown.  It is wholly possible, and I’ve stated as much, that the HBDers are innocent. Very well. In that case, they should welcome an investigation. The endorsement of an investigation was based upon, in my opinion, credible similarities between (frankly, ludicrous) HBD essays blaming covid-19 on an “American bioweapon” and strikingly similar Chinese government propaganda about same. The suggestion that an investigation was necessary was not simply due to disagreement or feuding, but on those aforementioned similarities and the damage done by that propaganda to the interests of those trying to get to the truth of the matter.


The sad thing is that the people (assuming they themselves are authentic) making accusations against others have actually facilitated the very infiltration they warn about.


An observation from Twitter:

Hard Right Turn@FelineDivisionReplying to @NewRightAmerica 

Your obsession with Spencer is consuming you Greg. Why not just forget about him and do you?

More advice to be downwardly mobile from Counter-Currents:

The first question posed to Greg Johnson and Fróði Midjord during the recent Counter-Currents livestream was, “If you could re-live your twenties, what would you do differently?” Greg’s answer was direct, clear, and quite pertinent to those of us considering an academic career — in the humanities, at least. Short answer: Don’t. Good advice.

Yes, “good advice.” Let dem dere Jews and Asians get the PhDs. You stay in your parents’ basement, reading Counter-Currents (gotta pump up dem page views!), and sending in your hamburger flipper salary money as “D’Nations” to Greg and company. 


How’s that ethnonationalist Brexit thingee working out for you?


No worries, Germany can help Turkey dump them back into Greece.  Yes we can!


Careful, ETs ,those Faroe Islanders are hunting for you!  Avast!  Harpoons to the ready!


Should this book have been entitled Key Retards of the Radical Right?


Johnson:

But you have to draw a line somewhere, and clearly Spencer and Friberg do not belong. They are shallow, self-promoting, pseudo-intellectual poseurs.

Thus, the pot calls the kettle black.


The following is borderline libelous:

Those with a more paranoid bent would connect the dots between Friberg being an antifa and police informant and the fact that Teitelbaum is an American Jew and conclude that he is simply an enemy agent being puffed up as a movement mastermind, i.e., controlled opposition.

Of course, people can make all sorts of similar accusations against Johnson or anyone else.  It doesn’t mean the accusations are true…or not. Evidence?  Where is the clear and irrefutable evidence?

Minsc
Posted March 7, 2019 at 10:41 am | Permalink
Jorjani would’ve been a better choice for the section on emerging thinkers that the most of those characters…
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Greg Johnson
Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:25 am | Permalink
Yes, Jorjani would have been a very good choice

Jorjani’s work is, in my opinion pseudoscientific claptrap. “The spectral!” I’m not surprised that Der Movement considers such an intellectual lightweight to be a “key thinker of the radical right.”


Conservatives are not the only ones afraid of free speech.


Here’s an exercise for the reader – name one (just one) prominent Quota Queen who is currently:

A) Fairly evaluating the ideas, paradigms, and critiques discussed at EGI Notes

B) Willing to engage with the “insane” and “indecent” Ted Sallis

C) Not participating in a cordon sanitaire of the Sallis Groupuscule


I’ll make it easy for you – there are none.  Not a single one.  Consider that even an anti-Sallis opponent like Silver believes that the Quota Queens (at least Johnson) should engage, much less more neutral people who undoubtedly agree with Silver’s assessment.


Who’s afraid of free speech, indeed?


Behold Durocher:

Guillaume Durocher says:
I shat a proverbial brick when I learned that one of De Gaulle’s first policies in newly-liberated France was instituting a MORE NORDIC IMMIGRATION POLICY

Is the following more accurate? –

I had to be hospitalized for an intractable priapism when I learned that one of De Gaulle’s first policies in newly-liberated France was instituting a MORE NORDIC IMMIGRATION POLICY

But, hey, if I label Durocher as a hardcore Nordicist that means that I am, of course, “insane” and “indecent.”  Where would I have ever got that idea from?


By the way, how did De Gaulle’s policy work out?  From looking at current France, it would seem that his underlings must have confused “Nordic” with “Arab and African.” Honest mistake.


A stupid yeastbucket, whose “contributions” to the “movement” are a silly podcast show and making “speeches” at conferences in which she giggles like a small girl caught “playing doctor” with an autistic and retarded boy, unburdens herself thus:

Lana
@LanaLokteff
10h
Pro-vaccine people really get psychotic defending their injections of sketchy substances. Look, knock yourself out and get all the jabs you want for all I care.
“My body my choice” except when..

Replies
Gotham Resistance
@Gothamresist

Replying to
@LanaLokteff
 and
@Tare1935
Never understood that. If they believe in the vaccines and believe they’re protected, why get so triggered if others choose not to

Let’s see. People object to open lies and pseudoscience, which smears the Right as scientifically illiterate, backwards, and alienates intelligent and rational people (and the same bent toward pseudoscience leads to HBD, Nordicism, “traditionalism,” etc.).


Let’s see. When the unvaccinated get unnecessary diseases it puts a strain on the healthcare system.


And most of all – vaccines are not 100% protective (that’s not how biology works), immunity can wane with age, and there are some people who cannot get vaccinated for legitimate reasons (children under age one year for MMR or folks with allergic reactions or whatever).  So, there are always going to be, in a given population, people who – through no fault of their own – will be not protected. However, given herd immunity, the chain of transmission will be stopped before any significant number of such people are infected. To have such herd immunity, all people who can be vaccinated should be; the overwhelming majority of these will be immune. Vaccination is a collective social good. Lowlife trash who refuse to get vaccinated are free riding on the immunity of others without contributing to it.  

If filthy scum like this were prevalent in past decades, we would still have smallpox.  We would still have polio outbreaks and iron lungs.  It is because of them (and immigration) that we still have measles outbreaks.


But, hey, let’s be fair.  Your body your choice.  Our choice too.  You get ill with a disease for which you chose not to be vaccinated against – no medical treatment. If you die, you die. Further – if you spread the disease to someone else who was vaccinated but who was one of the few not immune or someone who legitimately could not be vaccinated or an old person with waning immunity then you are legally on the hook for that.  At minimum – assault and battery.  If they die – homicide.  I’m sure if you kill an infant with your measles, the jury will be quite interested in your anti-vaxx polemics. Your psychosexual sweaty fear of being “jabbed” is worth killing someone, right?


Lana needs to demonstrate to us all the strength of her anti-vaxx convictions.  I suggest the following three-part program:


1. Get bitten by a rabid animal.  Make sure it’s a real good bite, plenty of foaming saliva getting in there.

2. Refuse to get “jabbed” for rabies prevention treatment.  No rabies vaccine and no rabies immune globulin. After all, who knows what questionable substances are in those jabs? Maybe even a dastardly microchip invented by Bill Gates or some sort of toxin implanted by a cackling Jew doctor.  No jabs!

3. Go home to your family and be a loving mother to your children. Plenty of close contact with them in the weeks or months ahead.  It’s all good!  What could possibly go wrong?


And it goes without saying that if your children were to be bitten by a rabid animal, you should, of course, refuse to have them “jabbed” as well.  Who knows what that Jew doctor is injecting?


The good news is that the nonsense of the Russess has a limited shelf-life. Once she hits the wall and looks like a babushka, no one will care in the slightest what she has to say. Give it time – perhaps less time than she thinks.  Age marches onward. Let us remember the well known MGTOW adage – when men get older, the look more and more like Sean Connery; when women get older, they look more and more like…Sean Connery.


In any case, those of us with a triple digit IQ and who are not hypocrites understand that in a society individual choices in many cases affect other people.  Indeed, isn’t that why we on the Far Right criticize “my body my choice” race-mixing? Don’t we oppose the idea that people can do whatever they want, even though it is destructive to the wider society?


Indeed, we all have societal responsibilities. The Millennials and Zoomers should reflect upon that the reason why they are not today pricked (not “jabbed”) against smallpox is because all we older people were so pricked, and the virus was eliminated (in the wild). If someone – an incompetent TROPICAL Chinese lab for example – were to release smallpox, would The Retarded Right refuse that vaccine as well?

In der news.  In all cases, emphasis added.


The elegant John Simon unfortunately passed away last fall.  Simon, of Hungarian descent, seems to have been a good man:

In 1981, an ad in a Hollywood trade appeared accusing Simon of being “racist, anti-Semitic, misogynist, vicious and derisive.” It was signed by 300 artists, apparently upset that Simon’s review of Richard III complained that an actress in the show “should never be cast as anything but an itinerant gefilte fish with a nervous condition.”

Well, as we know, obesity is related to higher covid-19 risk.

Meet Ron Unz.

Born in California, to a Ukrainian-Jewish immigrant, Unz was raised in a Yiddish-speaking household. His mother, Esther-Laio Avrutin, met his father on an airplane heading for Israel. A professor from the Midwest, he later briefly became her lover when visiting her on a few occasions in Los Angeles. She unilaterally decided to have a child with him, but Unz’s father was already married and his wife opened a letter from Avrutin telling him about her pregnancy. She was an anti-war activist, who raised her son as a single mother, but Unz was given his father’s surname and soon moved back to her family’s home after her son’s birth.

What about the dangers of cheap Chinese labor?

Due to the Chinese state confiscating supply chains and ethnic Chinese shipping masks in the West back to the homeland, there were so few disposable masks, especially highly effective N95 respirators, available for purchase by Americans that hospitals were having terrible difficulty sourcing personal protective equipment. Perhaps some authority figures understood the reality and thus intentionally misled the American public to preserve crucial facemasks for healthcare workers.

Of interest.

Over the years, Johnson and Spencer have sparred. A lot of the conflict, according to alt-righters, had to do with personal style.(Spencer became the best-known face of the “frat” style, polo-and-chinos alt-right; Johnson has dispensed with such pretenses.) But the tension between them also underscored an ongoing debate about how best to save America from itself. Johnson was seen as the Socrates of the radical right. He has a Ph.D. in philosophy and, before publicly embracing the cause of the white ethnostate, taught at Morehouse College, which is historically black. In Johnson’s view, the far right had to win the war of ideas before it could move on to the “real world” battlefield. That meant books and articles, speaking engagements, conferences, symposia. He had a way of explaining things that made racism and Jew hatred sound like post-structuralism or supply-side economics—something that was once new or avant-garde or even suspect and, over time, acquired a large following.

Spencer was more of a would-be Vladimir Lenin. He also took ideas seriously; he had pursued a Ph.D. at Duke, in intellectual history, before dropping out and moving to D.C. But he was mostly uninterested in ideas divorced from action. He wanted to be in the middle of things. He had pondered a congressional campaign in Montana, where he usually lived. He felt let down by Trump. (“His administration,” Spencer said in an interview, “is not fundamentally different than a [Mitt] Romney administration—or even a Hillary [Clinton] administration. I never expected him to be me. But I expected him to do something.”) The feeling on the alt-right was that Charlottesville had been a disaster because it had left so many members demoralized and fragmented the movement. For Spencer, political outcomes mattered.

Some interesting Twitter comments:

Highbrow Gentleman

@Hibrowgent

@NewRightAmerica

 and 

@ReadLinkola

So disappointing Greg. Stop being so petty.

Aureum

@Aureum_Kolovrat

@NewRightAmerica

 and 

@ReadLinkola

Promoting a #DuggAnon style psyop propaganda from a source with no name is very low ball. 

Please do better. Greg if you disagree with someone then it would be most honorable to debate them instead of smear them with trash like this that sends our spergs down the rabbit hole.

Aureum, you had better watch out, before you’re called “insane” and “indecent.” Debate?  He don’t need no stinkin’ debate!

Well, I’m not optimistic either, for two reasons:

First, the only possible vehicle for complete redemption – racial activism – has been compromised by the incompetent Quota Queen “leadership” and their rank-and-file Nutzi followers, coupled to an inane and “insane” fossilized dogma.

Second, the dominant element among Europeans today is the “high trust northern hunter gatherers.”  While there are – contra the HBD liars – strong elements of pathological altruism in Southern and Eastern Europe, I’ll agree with the HBDers that it is strongest in NW Europe. Having the SJW Herrenvolk captaining the HMS Europa is leading to a bigger disaster than the Titanic.

I was very supportive of Trump during the 2016 election.

Indeed. And, at the same time I was referring to Trump as a “vulgar ignorant buffoon” who I endorsed solely because of the chaos he would bring in his wake (which he did).  Who was right? Who was wrong?

I agree, Greg (except for the invention part, see below). The problem is that some of the people you’ve feuded with can say the same about you.


The “invention” accusation is, unfortunately, a new low in “New Right” discourse.  It’s not enough for Johnson to call his critics “insane” and “indecent” – here he implies that some of them may have been “invented by the enemy.” Criticize him and you are – what?  A CIA asset?  A SPLC or ADL agent? A HopeNotHate operative (no, wait, that’s Hermansson)? A reporter for The Stranger (no, wait, that’s Lewis)?  


You see, disagreeing with someone, criticizing their behavior and ideology and actions, holding them accountable – that makes you a “horrible” person. Or an “invention of the enemy.” 


These types, who have an inflated sense of their own self-importance, have to personalize everything. As I’ve repeatedly written here – my criticism of people in the “movement” is business, not personal. I do not know them personally nor do I care to. Who knows? They may be kind to animals (except whales), generous to strangers, pleasant enough in private interactions, real salt of the Earth.  But if these people – particularly self-styled “leaders” – are in my opinion destructive to the cause, I’m going to call them out on it.  It’s “punching right” – which Johnson approves of (at least when he does it to others).  If the behavior is, in my opinion, hypocritical, mendacious, defamatory, etc., then the criticism will be harsh.  But, also, the thing is this – if the criticism is wrong, then refute it.  Ascribing mental illness to people and/or implying they are some sort of infiltrator or agent provocateur is not a refutation, it is merely ad hominem.


And I wish these types were a bit more paranoid about “invented by the enemy” when it came to Patrik Hermansson and Dave Lewis. That would have saved much trouble and embarrassment.  If you cannot identify real infiltrators but instead suggest that authentic activists are such – well, how does that refute my criticisms about your poor judgment?  Indeed, it does nothing but support and reinforce such criticism.  Do better.


Note that I do not make such accusations here at this blog. The closest to that is the endorsement of an investigation – and only an investigation – to determine if any HBDers have association (directly or indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly) with the Chinese government or any other such operatives.  An investigation is just that – a determination about something unknown.  It is wholly possible, and I’ve stated as much, that the HBDers are innocent. Very well. In that case, they should welcome an investigation. The endorsement of an investigation was based upon, in my opinion, credible similarities between (frankly, ludicrous) HBD essays blaming covid-19 on an “American bioweapon” and strikingly similar Chinese government propaganda about same. The suggestion that an investigation was necessary was not simply due to disagreement or feuding, but on those aforementioned similarities and the damage done by that propaganda to the interests of those trying to get to the truth of the matter.


The sad thing is that the people (assuming they themselves are authentic) making accusations against others have actually facilitated the very infiltration they warn about.


An observation from Twitter:

Hard Right Turn@FelineDivisionReplying to @NewRightAmerica 

Your obsession with Spencer is consuming you Greg. Why not just forget about him and do you?

More advice to be downwardly mobile from Counter-Currents:

The first question posed to Greg Johnson and Fróði Midjord during the recent Counter-Currents livestream was, “If you could re-live your twenties, what would you do differently?” Greg’s answer was direct, clear, and quite pertinent to those of us considering an academic career — in the humanities, at least. Short answer: Don’t. Good advice.

Yes, “good advice.” Let dem dere Jews and Asians get the PhDs. You stay in your parents’ basement, reading Counter-Currents (gotta pump up dem page views!), and sending in your hamburger flipper salary money as “D’Nations” to Greg and company. 


How’s that ethnonationalist Brexit thingee working out for you?


No worries, Germany can help Turkey dump them back into Greece.  Yes we can!


Careful, ETs ,those Faroe Islanders are hunting for you!  Avast!  Harpoons to the ready!


Should this book have been entitled Key Retards of the Radical Right?


Johnson:

But you have to draw a line somewhere, and clearly Spencer and Friberg do not belong. They are shallow, self-promoting, pseudo-intellectual poseurs.

Thus, the pot calls the kettle black.


The following is borderline libelous:

Those with a more paranoid bent would connect the dots between Friberg being an antifa and police informant and the fact that Teitelbaum is an American Jew and conclude that he is simply an enemy agent being puffed up as a movement mastermind, i.e., controlled opposition.

Of course, people can make all sorts of similar accusations against Johnson or anyone else.  It doesn’t mean the accusations are true…or not. Evidence?  Where is the clear and irrefutable evidence?

Minsc
Posted March 7, 2019 at 10:41 am | Permalink
Jorjani would’ve been a better choice for the section on emerging thinkers that the most of those characters…
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Greg Johnson
Posted March 7, 2019 at 11:25 am | Permalink
Yes, Jorjani would have been a very good choice

Jorjani’s work is, in my opinion pseudoscientific claptrap. “The spectral!” I’m not surprised that Der Movement considers such an intellectual lightweight to be a “key thinker of the radical right.”


Conservatives are not the only ones afraid of free speech.


Here’s an exercise for the reader – name one (just one) prominent Quota Queen who is currently:

A) Fairly evaluating the ideas, paradigms, and critiques discussed at EGI Notes

B) Willing to engage with the “insane” and “indecent” Ted Sallis

C) Not participating in a cordon sanitaire of the Sallis Groupuscule


I’ll make it easy for you – there are none.  Not a single one.  Consider that even an anti-Sallis opponent like Silver believes that the Quota Queens (at least Johnson) should engage, much less more neutral people who undoubtedly agree with Silver’s assessment.


Who’s afraid of free speech, indeed?


Behold Durocher:

Guillaume Durocher says:
I shat a proverbial brick when I learned that one of De Gaulle’s first policies in newly-liberated France was instituting a MORE NORDIC IMMIGRATION POLICY

Is the following more accurate? –

I had to be hospitalized for an intractable priapism when I learned that one of De Gaulle’s first policies in newly-liberated France was instituting a MORE NORDIC IMMIGRATION POLICY

But, hey, if I label Durocher as a hardcore Nordicist that means that I am, of course, “insane” and “indecent.”  Where would I have ever got that idea from?


By the way, how did De Gaulle’s policy work out?  From looking at current France, it would seem that his underlings must have confused “Nordic” with “Arab and African.” Honest mistake.


A stupid yeastbucket, whose “contributions” to the “movement” are a silly podcast show and making “speeches” at conferences in which she giggles like a small girl caught “playing doctor” with an autistic and retarded boy, unburdens herself thus:

Lana
@LanaLokteff
10h
Pro-vaccine people really get psychotic defending their injections of sketchy substances. Look, knock yourself out and get all the jabs you want for all I care.
“My body my choice” except when..

Replies
Gotham Resistance
@Gothamresist

Replying to
@LanaLokteff
 and
@Tare1935
Never understood that. If they believe in the vaccines and believe they’re protected, why get so triggered if others choose not to

Let’s see. People object to open lies and pseudoscience, which smears the Right as scientifically illiterate, backwards, and alienates intelligent and rational people (and the same bent toward pseudoscience leads to HBD, Nordicism, “traditionalism,” etc.).


Let’s see. When the unvaccinated get unnecessary diseases it puts a strain on the healthcare system.


And most of all – vaccines are not 100% protective (that’s not how biology works), immunity can wane with age, and there are some people who cannot get vaccinated for legitimate reasons (children under age one year for MMR or folks with allergic reactions or whatever).  So, there are always going to be, in a given population, people who – through no fault of their own – will be not protected. However, given herd immunity, the chain of transmission will be stopped before any significant number of such people are infected. To have such herd immunity, all people who can be vaccinated should be; the overwhelming majority of these will be immune. Vaccination is a collective social good. Lowlife trash who refuse to get vaccinated are free riding on the immunity of others without contributing to it.  

If filthy scum like this were prevalent in past decades, we would still have smallpox.  We would still have polio outbreaks and iron lungs.  It is because of them (and immigration) that we still have measles outbreaks.


But, hey, let’s be fair.  Your body your choice.  Our choice too.  You get ill with a disease for which you chose not to be vaccinated against – no medical treatment. If you die, you die. Further – if you spread the disease to someone else who was vaccinated but who was one of the few not immune or someone who legitimately could not be vaccinated or an old person with waning immunity then you are legally on the hook for that.  At minimum – assault and battery.  If they die – homicide.  I’m sure if you kill an infant with your measles, the jury will be quite interested in your anti-vaxx polemics. Your psychosexual sweaty fears of being “jabbed” is worth killing someone, right?


Lana needs to demonstrate to us all the strength of her anti-vaxx convictions.  I suggest the following three-part program:


1. Get bitten by a rabid animal.  Make sure it’s a real good bite, plenty of foaming saliva getting in there.

2. Refuse to get “jabbed” for rabies prevention treatment.  No rabies vaccine and no rabies immune globulin. After all, who knows what questionable substances are in those jabs? Maybe even a dastardly microchip invented by Bill Gates or some sort of toxin implanted by a cackling Jew doctor.  No jabs!

3. Go home to your family and be a loving mother to your children. Plenty of close contact with them in the weeks or months ahead.  It’s all good!  What could possibly go wrong?


And it goes without saying that if your children were to be bitten by a rabid animal, you should, of course, refuse to have them “jabbed” as well.  Who knows what that Jew doctor is injecting?


The good news is that the nonsense of the Russess has a limited shelf-life. Once she hits the wall and looks like a babushka, no one will care in the slightest what she has to say. Give it time – perhaps less time than she thinks.  Age marches onward. Let us remember the well known MGTOW adage – when men get older, the look more and more like Sean Connery; when women get older, they look more and more like…Sean Connery.


In any case, those of us with a triple digit IQ and who are not hypocrites understand that in a society individual choices in many cases affect other people.  Indeed, isn’t that why we on the Far Right criticize “my body my choice” race-mixing? Don’t we oppose the idea that people can do whatever they want, even though it is destructive to the wider society?


Indeed, we all have societal responsibilities. The Millennials and Zoomers should reflect upon that the reason why they are not today pricked (not “jabbed”) against smallpox is because all we older people were so pricked, and the virus was eliminated (in the wild). If someone – an incompetent TROPICAL Chinese lab for example – were to release smallpox, would The Retarded Right refuse that vaccine as well?

Laughably Predictable

And other news.

Johnson can continue to call me “insane” and “indecent” but, once again, I’m right. One of my predictions for 2020 (red font emphasis added):

After the Greta Thunberg and Hubert Humphrey comedies, who will be the next “Nordish” leftist to be praised by the likes of Counter-Currents (‘we need more people like them”) or Durocher (“a great benefit to all humanity”)?  John Lindsay?  George McGovern?  Bill Clinton? 

And of course, Counter-Currents May 2020:

…we seek to cultivate in ourselves the same strengths Clinton had — empathy for others, seeing all sides of an issue, and getting up every day, despite all around you being insane with rage, and doing the best you can do.

Bill Clinton, the first American President to bomb Europe since FDR and Truman, was a political thug, a moral turd, a sexual pervert, and the smiling spokesman for White Dispossession. But none of that matters to a “movement” based upon a foundation of sweaty ethnic fetishism.

Of course, these guys are so tiresomely predictable that correctly identifying their future behavior is like shooting fish in a barrel. The problem is, I’m not the only one who can predict their behavior. We’ll now go to the Hermansson infiltration, which demonstrated how the Left’s use of such easy predictions was leveraged to harm White racial activism. Therefore, although the predictability seems humorous, it is a deadly serious matter.

Let us remember that I was “banned” from Counter-Currents after a comment in which I blamed the tragicomic and destructive Hermansson infiltration on Der Movement’s Nordicism, which is part of what I term “ethnic fetishism.”

Was I wrong about that and deserving of “banning” or was I correct?

What does Hermansson himself say?  Let’s consider (emphasis added):

Jez Turner, leader of the London Forum and one of the best known far-right activists on the UK scene, quickly invited me to meet up. Later, as paranoia about a mole increased, new members began to be thoroughly vetted and were required to provide letters of recommendation from trusted members.

Luckily for me, Scandinavian heritage and culture is fetishised by some within the UK far right, meaning interest in my Swedish background overcame most suspicion. At formal dinners, for instance, we sometimes opened by drinking from a ceremonial Viking horn, then raising it to the ceiling in a prayer to the mythological Norse god Odin.

One figure from the London Forum showed a particular interest in me as soon as I arrived. Despite being in his mid-fifties, Stead Steadman, a man of diminutive stature, was always dressed in a khaki shirt, khaki shorts and black walking boots; he looked like a cross between a boy scout and a member of the Hitler Youth. Little did I know at the time but this man was to be central to the whole project. Once close to him he opened doors to some of the most influential far-right figures in the world.

The first meetings with Steadman were brief. I was nervous, fully aware that one false step or mistake could end the whole project before it started. He quizzed me about which far-right people and groups I knew in Sweden and displayed an impressive knowledge.

We usually met at the Nordic Bakery in Soho over a coffee and cinnamon bun. I listened to his musings on National Socialism and what he’d recently read, correcting his Swedish when he made a mistake. He was also very interested in my university studies, feeling that the “quality of people” in the movement was low and he wanted more people like me, young and university educated, to join.

Over time we talked more and more about the movement in the UK, as well as the Forum and the people he knew. Coming back from Stockholm after Christmas I brought him a rare book by the Swedish health writer Are Waerland that I acquired from the Swedish anti-racism magazine EXPO. Everything I did was about building stronger relationships and gaining more information.

Once the trust was built Steadman began openly discussing the London Forum, people they planned to invite and who he liked and disliked within the movement. The information I gathered helped HOPE not hate map the London Forum network and the movements of key activists with precision. We learned of international conferences in Lithuania, Italy and Sweden being attended by British extremists.

It even got to the stage where I was asked to sit in on the vetting meetings for new London Forum members. Steadman, Turner and I would meet applicants who wanted to attend meetings and question them on their background, politics and commitment to the cause. Soon there was almost nothing happening in the London Forum that I and HOPE not hate did not know.

It is quite clear that I was 100% correct.  If we assume that this account matches reality, and, insofar as I know, no one has denied this fundamental narrative, then my diagnosis of the situation was appropriate, rational, balanced, and quite reasonable – certainly not “insane” or “indecent.”

Does anyone believe that this infiltrator, and his transparent cover story, would have been so quickly accepted had he been a (heterosexual) Southern or Eastern European?  Come on now. In that case, the vetting would have been so actually extreme that it may have included a full blood workup, a colonoscopy, and a retinal scan.

Instead of merely admitting how he himself was taken in, even allowing Hermansson to give a meeting keynote address on the dangers of infiltration (high comedy), and talking responsibility for it with full accountability, Johnson lashed out at his critics.

Yawn. More stupidity.  Facts – people started stocking up on toilet paper because it was reported that Chinese in lockdowns were stuck without any.  First, prudent people stocked up in February, not to excess, but several months’ worth. Then, the lipid-enhanced crowd picked up on the toilet paper meme and started going hog (heh) wild. The excesses of the latter should not reflect on the reasonable prudence of the former. That Costello is an idiot, and doesn’t understand supply chain disruptions, is another story. Further, there was no certainty in late winter how bad things were going to be in the USA and how long and stringent lockdowns would be. 

Laugh at this. The lack of self-awareness is ludicrous.  Yeah Greg…I read this article. 

Here’s the thing – when YOU were on the Alt Right train and writing articles about how The Alt Right Means White Nationalism or Nothing At All, I was critiquing the Alt Right.  When all you guys were taking Dugin seriously, I considered him a crackpot.

Johnson (emphasis added):

So someone will eventually endow the Alternative Right with a positive content. So it might as well be me.

This content will, to a great extent, be socially constructed. Meaning that people can try to offer any definition they want, but unless it is widely accepted by others, it does not matter. Thus, for a proposed meaning to stick, it must either come from someone relatively authoritative, or it must be immediately compelling, or both.

My definition meets both criteria, so here goes: the Alternative Right means White Nationalism — or it means nothing at all.

The original concept of the Alternative Right emerged from paleoconservatism. (I prefer to call it “faileoconservatism,” an evaluation that is even shared by paleocon pioneer Paul Gottfried, who declared the end of paleoconservatism and called for an “Alternative Right” in the same 2008 H. L. Mencken Club speech.)

Like paleoconservatism, the Alternative Right was simply a way that timid, status-conscious conservatives could flirt with racism and even anti-Semitism while maintaining some sort of pretense of mainstream credibility.

But when Richard Spencer started the Alternative Right webzine in 2010, the principal funders and writers regarded it simply as a vehicle for White Nationalist entryism, and they would have blown it up rather than see it become anything else. Today’s White Nationalists need to take the same strongly proprietary attitude toward the Alternative Right. It is a vehicle of White Nationalism, and we will give it the Howard Roark treatment if it is hijacked from us. Full stop. (Spencer himself torched the Alt Right webzine in 2013 for very different reasons.)

But we also need to remember that the Alt Right will not serve as a tool of White Nationalist entryism and outreach if we drive out everyone who is not a White Nationalist. Converts, by definition, don’t already believe what we believe. Thus purging the Alt Right of people who are not already White Nationalists is ultimately self-defeating.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to go forth into battle and make this concept of the Alternative Right the dominant one. That is all.

At that time, I was on the warpath against the Alt Right.  Sallis: Right.  Johnson: Wrong. That’s how the world works.  And various elder statesmen and “rock stars” were on the Alt Right train as well…at least until Hailgate, and which point they jumped off.  Again, it is clear who was right and who was wrong. But, hey, let’s cover that all up with defamatory accusations of “insanity.” 

From the article (linked above) on the Alt Right:

Dugin was a leader of the Russian National Bolshevik Party (which was founded by a homosexual male prostitute called Eduard Limonov).

Limonov sounds like real Mannerbund material, eh?  Was he a “flirt?” If he thought a male activist was “cute” did he “flirt” with him?

What’s next in store for the insane asylum known as the “Alt-Right”? I don’t see how it can get much worse from this point, but I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck everything up even more dramatically than they have done in 2020 so far and for the past few years.

The “insane” and “indecent” Sallis was writing things like that back in 2016-2017. In summary, my “take” on the Alt Right over time was as follows.  

First, by the first half of 2016, my attitude toward the Alt Right had evolved to two points:

1. If – if! – managed correctly, the Alt Right had some potential as a recruiting tool, as the “youth wing” of a broader “movement,” as a specific faction of activism appealing to certain types of people.

2. I myself, personally, did not like the Alt Right, did not identify with it, was not interested in it, had disagreements of both style and substance with it, and wished for it just to limit itself to point #1, above. Privately, I shook my head in disgust at middle-aged (and older) elder statesman activists jumping on the Alt Right train, probably in an attempt to maintain their viability in a “movement” quickly being overtaken by Pepe, Kek, and other manifestations of Millennial juvenile jackassery.

As linked to above, by September 2016, I was openly warning of the danger of the Alt Right, especially since Alt Righters, including Johnson, were attempting to subsume the entire “movement” within the Alt Right, while at the same time advocating a “big tent” strategy. This “eggs in one basket” centralization approach was not only strategically dangerous (the collapse of the Alt Right would take down the entirety of American White racial nationalism) but it had the potential, even if “successful,” of destroying the essence of WN, burying serious racial activism under a pile of Pepe cartoons, screams of “Kek!,” trolling, RamZPauls and Baked Alaskas, men in their 60s wearing silly hats, Daily Shoahs, Beavis and Butthead sniggerings, and all the rest.

By early 2017 my anti-Alt Right attitude hardened, and it was clear to me that the Alt Right was a clear and present danger, perhaps the most serious internal threat the “movement” had ever (to that point) faced. Then came Unite the Right and its aftermath, and all the Quota Queens started to rewrite history to pretend that they were not fervent Alt Righters when being Alt Right was “cool.”

Likely, the only reason why the collapse of the Alt Right didn’t take the entire “movement” down with it was that there were always people who didn’t drink the Alt Right Kool-Aid, people who resisted the calls for amalgamation of WN, the Alt Right, and the Alt Lite. Further, Hailgate was, in retrospect, a godsend, since some folks started jumping off the Alt Right train back then, or else they would have been still riding that locomotive as it plowed into Heather’s fat flaps in Charlottesville.

…Perkins added in the same interview, in which she compared believing in Q to believing in Jesus Christ, as a matter of faith that transcends proof.

Well, sort of like anti-vaxxism, HBD, and Nordicism.

This is yet another reason why democracy is a failure.  It’s true that Trump bungled things at the beginning, but he started taking it seriously in March, and since then, albeit with some hiccups, one cannot significantly fault the response – or at least not fault it compared to what Biden would have done in Trump’s place.

Blaming Trump for a situation created by China so as to elect a dementia patient is madness.  If Biden wins, rest assured that the Quota Queens will have no contingency plans in place, and will express surprise and shock as they are deplatformed (or worse) to an even greater degree than they are now.  Planning?  They don’t need no stinkin’ planning!  When things go wrong, they’ll just call their critics “insane” and “indecent” and it’ll be alright!  Back to the movie reviews and stupid essays by Borat look-a-likes!

Behold the GOP:

“We as a party learned the hard way that in today’s world we need candidates other than boring old white people,”…

So, “boring old white people” should not vote for the GOP either.  Good luck as a political party never again winning a single election.

Good to see that The Black Man is standing up for himself, against the Yellows. Hail the Negro!  Next step: Mass migration of Africans to China, to take the land that properly belongs to the Black race.  Black Man – there is nothing the Chinaman can give to you that is not already yours by right.  Go to China and seize your rightful inheritance!  EGI Notes strongly supports The New Black Panther Party’s boycott and wishes it well.

Odds and Ends, 5/18/20

In der news.

Too bad this alternative history didn’t really occur. I realize that Yockey was not a fan of mass movements, but, still, I’m sure he would have done whatever was necessary to achieve his goals.

Super-duper missile.  And here is Trump demonstrating it. Super-duper!  Do we have a five year old as President? Well, maybe with respect to mental and behavioral age. Only a mendacious idiot would term the buffoonish clown Trump “a man of genuine greatness.” This is actually a serious matter, since Trump’s childish buffoonery and empty bluster taints the Right as a whole, and helps cement the narrative painted by the Left about everyone on the Right.

After all, we can’t stand in the way of Full Moon Ancestry’s “Bang East Europe” now, can we?


Two ripostes to Johnson:

Apostol Constant@calicantsarosReplying to @NewRightAmerica

Aside from that… If Europeans do not put up some kind of united front against the currently emerging Super-States, they will be swallowed up one by one, or relegated to remaining insignificant puppet-states.  This is the end of the nation-state, and the start of a new era.

Elected EurocratFlag of European Union@Kibus9Replying to @NewRightAmerica

European peoples/nations coming together and cooperating in institutions for their common well-being is ‘nutty’ for you?

Yes, apparently, it is “nutty” to Johnson.  You see, we can’t have “European peoples/nations coming together and cooperating in institutions for their common well-being” – instead we have to have British/Saxons using Hungary as a flop house, ethnic Danes using Eastern Europe as a bordello, and other Herrenvolk gallivanting around Europe with their noses in the air to the lowly wogs.

This is what to expect from a HBD-Nordicist site.  Comment from that post (emphasis added):

Eric Muellersays:

May 16, 2020 at 9:49 am

Totally agree! And the sphere for this moral rebellion looks like it will soon massively expand as the US leadership has proclaimed its intent to use military force to inject us with vaccinations that will modify our genetic makeup. What could be more invasive? What more a transgression against individual liberty?

This is very interesting. Greg Johnson is clearly on the side of “covid-19 is a serious problem, lockdowns and other manifestations of government authority in this crisis are good.” Johnson is sharply critical of mainstream conservatives, Alt Liters, and low level Nutzis who take the “freedom and economy uber alles” flubro attitude. Very well. But it is interesting that Johnson stays silent when The Occidental Observer (TOO) engages in the same type of nonsense that Johnson critiques in others, including gibbering, scientifically illiterate, comments about vaccinations “modifying our genetic makeup.” This suggests to me more of Johnson playing “movement politics” – offending MacDonald is, I suppose, too high of a price for Greg Johnson to pay to demonstrate character and personal integrity (interestingly, the prominence of Andrew Joyce at TOO makes us wonder if perhaps the reverse is not true). Ramsey is an easy target and costs Johnson nothing to criticize; MacDonald is another matter entirely.  “Movement” politics trumps doing the right thing.


I can be called “insane” and “indecent” but “the US leadership has proclaimed its intent to use military force to inject us with vaccinations that will modify our genetic makeup” is, no doubt, merely reflective of good old American common sense. MacDonald’s actual post making hair salon owner Shelly Luther into some sort of right-wing heroine – a modern-day Joan of Arc, I suppose – is just more g
ood old American common sense.  If Johnson really believes what his own covid 19-related tweets assert, then there should be no doubt whatsoever that he should view the covid 19-related material at TOO to be recklessly irresponsible, even dangerous.  But…crickets.  Well, I’ll say it – TOO’s “take” on covid-19 is recklessly irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

Also interesting that the commentator nitwits are not worried about “tracking devices” and “genetic modifiers” in their Adderall, Lipitor, metformin, blood pressure medications, etc. But, alas, the defective waddling hippos need all those medications to get through the day. It’s easy to sweatily gibber about vaccines, but when you don’t have the discipline to push away from the table and you don’t have the honesty to admit your children are just plain stupid, and not with “attention deficit disorder,” then you have no choice but to embrace “Big Pharma’s” maintenance medications.

And why is it that these freedom-fighting heroes and heroines need to pick measures taken during a health care crisis to take their “freedom” stand about, rather than, say, choosing racial integration or affirmative action? How about race replacement migration? Are pandemic lockdowns really the hill you want to die on?  Well, you gotta hug dem mestizas running “eyelash salons” after all – ya don’t wanna get mixed up in any of dat dere raycism or anything!  Just fight big gumminti!  Nail dem dere Lutherian theses on the door of the Texas statehouse!  Open the salons!  No doubt tons (heh) of overweight Texan women need to go to the moustache salons to get their facial hair trimmed; we cannot deprive them of that!


This is how it goes:

System: We are going to build Section Eight housing in your lily-White suburban neighborhood and we will fill it with (subsidized with your tax money, of course) housing for criminal Coloreds.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: We are going to ship all sorts of Coloreds to your local schools, wrecking the education there, having your children physically terrorized by feral Colored children.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: If you sell your house (for which you will be castigated for “White flight”) you have to sell it to anyone, regardless of race. You have no choice whatsoever.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: You are going to be discriminated against in hiring by affirmative action as will your children, who will be first discriminated against in college admissions.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: Your children will be propagandized in school and by popular culture to hate their race and culture, and they will be encouraged to practice miscegenation.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: We will flood the nation with race replacement migration and give illegal aliens more rights and privileges than you.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: We will send your sons to war to die for Israel.

Flubro: Yes, master.

System: And, oh, by the way, there’s a deadly pandemic, so we are going to restrict movement and activity to mitigate disease and we are developing a vaccine.

Flubro: No, no, a thousand times, no!  Totalitarianism!  I value my freedom!  Freedom (mimicking Mel Gibson in Braveheart)!  Fight the power!  The law is not the same as the right!  Unacceptable!  A globalist plot to track us with a genetic modifying vaccine!  No, No!

Yahoosays:

May 16, 2020 at 8:53 am

This has Kevin McDonald’s name on it, but I don’t think it is his writing. Is this correct?

I thought the same thing when I read it.  Forget about the fact that I disagree with it – the writing style and arguments are childishly juvenile, superficial, and reflective of a Millennial writing in his parent’s basement. But then I remember the mental rot inflicted by an adherence to HBD and Nordicism and it all fits.

Richard McCullochsays:

May 16, 2020 at 10:52 am

In substance and style this short but powerful essay is very unusual for Kevin MacDonald. I would never guess he was the author.

I’m shocked – shocked I say! – that McCulloch supports (“powerful essay”) flubro-style polemics.  Who would have thought it?  Any comments, Johnson?

That is actually all very, very serious. One can make the argument that the lockdowns are too severe, but then you should present a reasonable alternative. Spreading disease to open “salons” without any reasonable mitigation is not a plan. Cherrypicking fights over freedom in the midst of a global health crisis is not a plan.  Hosting posts and comments ridiculing the virus and making outrageous claims that would discourage vaccination is playing with people’s lives and gambling with public health. I suppose I was right all along when I’ve been saying that “social science” is an oxymoron. There’s no real science or academic rigor at TOO, just Fox News style rants, nonsense that can have real life – life and death – consequences.  Opening up for the sake of “salons” can kill people. Convincing people not to get vaccinated can kill them. Is this what the Right wants to be associated with?  And Johnson – King of Lockdown Support – says nothing.  And these types have the nerve to label me as “indecent?”

Johnson (no longer viciously attacking Wallace and Wallace’s mental health) praises this. Very well. I’m in general agreement with Wallace’s sentiments. But, MacDonald and crew at TOO are taking the opposite view, a view I openly call out as recklessly irresponsible and potentially dangerous.  Johnson, on the other hand, the brave critic of Ramsey and Carlson, and the heroic defamer of Sallis, is mysteriously silent when “movement” “rock stars” promote flubro-freedom-conspiracy paradigms.  Who should you trust more – Sallis or Johnson?


By the way, are any of the “better people” who advised Johnson of the “indecency” of associating with Ted Sallis going to admit doing so publicly?  When I criticize people I do so publicly here at this blog.  But then, I’m not an effete blushing quota queen engaging in “movement” gossip in private conversations, quietly stabbing people in the back like a no account worm.  Character is as character does.


Meanwhile, for cheap laughs, I tuned in briefly to the 5/16/20 Full Moon Ancestry (FMA) livestream. What a bunch of self-indulgent silly nonsense. And bizarre as well. Johnson doesn’t show his face, even though his image is plastered all over the Internet, including Wikipedia. What’s the point? The Borat-like Jeelvy with his porn star moustache seems like a Balkanoid caricature, while FMA projects a lack of masculinity and of personal force that makes one wonder what’s going on with those Eastern European women (green card hunting?). It’s interesting that Jeelvy, who has complained about “mate poaching” by Boomers, has no problem being associated with a Danish-American Roosh who apparently believes he has a Herrenvolk droit du seigneur right to Slavic and Baltic women. Mate poaching! No bueno!  But then that is the sort of hypocritical inconsistency and lack of moral rigor we’ve come to expect from Counter-Currents.

I also listened briefly to the May 17 livestream. Johnson’s self-serving defense of Trump, completely ignored all of the things Trump could have done that he didn’t do (re: Antifa, birthright citizenship, tech censorship) and the things he has done – his DOJ persecuting his own supporters, pro-Negro criminal justice reform (and a Jack Johnson amnesty), as well as that rapper controversy with Sweden.  All the base got from Trump is empty tweets, bluster, and no action. Trump is so pro-Israel that they named a settlement after him, never mind signing legislation to ban “anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Johnson’s fellow Quota Queen Hood cogently pointed out that “Trump is so weak he makes Jimmy Carter look like Alexander the Great.”  There’s a reason for that.  The two Gregs can get together to discuss that. Is Hood suitable to debate?  He’s not “insane” or “indecent” now, is he?


I was also amused by Johnson stating that Biden might win. Might?  I thought that Trump was “toast in 2020 no matter what?”  No matter what!  No chance of victory whatsoever. And, now, well, maybe Biden might win. Oh, so Johnson’s already completely forgotten his flat-out, 100% certainty, dogmatic previous statement?

You see, when you call out the Quota Queens on their nonsense, then you are “insane” and “indecent.” Isn’t that convenient?  Being a Quota Queen means never having to defend your ideas and your statements from the “proles.”


The comments about whaling – horrendously stupid. The objection to whaling is not because “the water becomes red,” idiot. It’s not because people are “over-sensitive” to visual slaughter. It is because whales are highly intelligent animals, likely sentient, and killing whales in that sense is as bad, or worse, than Chinese killing and eating dogs. And so you know that whale hunting is not terrifying and painful to the whales?  Have you had a heart-to-heart talk with Moby Dick about that recently? Having intelligent aquatic mammals chased through the water for their lives and then harpooned to death is just good clean fun for them, eh?


There may have been excuses for whaling in the past – ignorance about the nature of whales and a need for the oil that has no effective substitute. There is no such excuse today.  Whaling is immoral; it is barbaric savagery.  Perhaps not surprisingly, two-thirds of the HBDers’ planned Jeurasian contributory stocks currently pursue whaling. For the other shoe to drop, all we need now is to find out that it’s funded by Jews, to complete the trifecta. In all seriousness though, once again the Right, and the “movement’s” favorite ethnies (including Orientals), are on the wrong side of naturalistically moral arguments. Slaughter whales yet welcome criminal genocidal migrants. Sounds like a plan!  Yes we can!  High trust northern hunter gatherers!


We can see why these specimens avoid debates with people who have triple digit IQs and label them as “insane” and “indecent” to avoid it.  

The HBD gods are at it again.

See this.

A good idea for Milady.  Sometimes the old ways are best.

Calling It Out

This is just too much.

I try to avoid posting two times in one day, but this is just too much.

This is the same hypocrite who “banned me” (*) from commenting on his blog, for the “crime” of pointing out that the Hermansson infiltration was a result of the “movement’s” Nordicist obsessions. That this “take” was and is accurate is supported by Hermansson himself writing that he got in with Steadman because of the latter’s well-known obsessions with Nordics, Sweden, Norse culture and language, Scandinavian “Aryans” and the like.  It’s not a matter of debate.  But, alas, Sir Gaslighting can’t take any real criticism.  He can “punch right” but has a glass jaw.  He operates in an echo chamber, refusing also to interface with other critics (e.g., Friberg).  

This level of hypocrisy is breathtaking.

*As if someone couldn’t alter VPN settings and post under another pseudonym if they really wanted to. But I respect the private property of others. If I’m not wanted at Counter-Currents, I will not post there. But I’m not going to stand quietly by and watch Johnson pretend he’s a champion of civil debate.