Category: Old Movement

Trumps, Naps, Fetishists, Informants Oh My!

Der Movement.

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement marches on.

Two rules of thumb:

1. If someone, online or in person, starts talking to you about committing illegal acts, chances are good they are an informant, or some other type of infiltrator or law enforcement agent.

2. When in doubt, see rule one.

Observations:

1. Do you notice that violent leftists never seem to get caught up in these stings?  Two possibilities (which are not mutually exclusive). First, the Left is more careful and serious than the jackass Right.  Second, the far left Trump administration and its law enforcement agencies are specifically targeting rightists.

2. Idiots like the person charged are likely brought to the point of desperation because of the manifest failures of Der Movement’s affirmative action Quota Queen “leadership.”

3. If someone wants “chaos” then there are plenty of perfectly legal and non-violent ways to achieve this. The multicultural system is so inherently unstable that political campaigns, rallies, propaganda, the “democratic multiculturalism” for majorities Salter espouses, and a myriad of other political and metapolitical stratagems, can cause societal chaos far better than talking to some informant or actually doing some foolish acting out. Heighten the contradictions!

4. One wonders what percentage of commentators on the varied Beavis-and-Butthead Far Right forums out there are actually government informants, leftist infiltrators, and other frauds. 5%? 10%? 20%? More than 50%? (The answer for Far Left forums probably hovers around 0%, see above).

Another attack on White ethnics from Counter-Currents. Never mind some of the comments. Not on the cusp of whiteness here.  That’s pure Nordic, son!  Just like this look-a-like. The Wild Bunch as anti-fascist fiction?

Seriously though, Counter-Currents is increasingly establishing itself as a Der Movement focal point of hostility against White ethnics.  Shabbos sud fools who contribute their shekels to Johnson take note. If Counter Currents gives you an extended middle finger, withhold donating to them. You owe nothing to those who despise you.

Of course, some “ethnics” do deserve contempt.  Since this blog talks honestly about ethnic types, let’s consider for a moment Judge Napolitano.  This guy has always annoyed me; he can be considered in many ways “peak wop.”  Now, the fact that he’s squat, coarse-faced, broad-nosed, non-gracile, and looks and moves like an over-stuffed puppet, cannot reasonably be held against him as a person. But what about aspects of his persona that he has control over?  The puffed-up Guido hairstyle, which is vaguely reminiscent (albeit in a more attenuated form) to that of Ray Luca of Crime Story, would look stupid enough on a younger man, but for a man of “Nap’s” age it is positively ridiculous. What’s next? Gold chains and cheap cologne?  Worse is his constant petty sniping against Trump.  Certainly, Trump deserves criticism from the Right for being an insincere fraud and a buffoon, but that’s not what Napolitano is doing. Instead, he attacks Trump using leftist talking points, and the rumor is that this derives from personal animus over being snubbed by Trump for some sort of judicial appointment. This Napolitano, who older generations of Eyetalians would term “a real guinea,” deserves all of the contempt he undoubtedly receives from the Nordicist types. He’s earned it.

Worse than Napolitano is Cuomo, and worse than Cuomo is any idiot who believes that Cuomo is any sort of spokesman for Afrowop-Americans. Counter-Currents has degenerated to such an extent that each post is worse than the last, and the comments read as if they were lifted from the worst of Chateau Heartiste.  

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Odds and Ends, 9/18/19

Odds and ends.

Listen to this Forney podcast about TRS.  Whatever you may think about Forney, he is doing an excellent job deconstructing the anti-White monstrosity known as Der Movement.  Keep it up, Mr. Forney. Shine a bright light on the roaches and make them scurry for cover.

The Quota Queens are at it again; it seems like they’re back obsessing over Princess Tulsi Coconut.  Has the Andy Eggroll enthusiasm waned so quickly?  Or is Princess Coconut only a place-holder until a future AOC Presidential candidacy?

This is a good Amren video.  I was amused though about Taylor talking about folks with “WASP reserve” not wanting to “rattle the tin cup” (a phrase familiar to readers of EGI Notes, I’m sure).  It’s interesting though that the folks who are not rattling the tin cup are not WASPs, while those who are so rattling, are.  Swarthoid reserve?

A response to the absurd Counter-Currents essay on Hubert Humphrey and Minnesota discussed here yesterday:

Don
Posted September 17, 2019 at 7:13 pm | Permalink
I don’t understand the point of this essay, which simply outlines the betrayal of WHITE people by WHITE LEADERS. I already knew this and so did everybody else.
Do we need WHITES in Minnesota?
Ah…..yes. That would be nice. But if they have such high IQ’s, why are they so committed to importing MUD people to replace them? WHITES have got to start wanting to be saved. If WHITES are willing to accept extermination, no amount of activism by us can save them. It’s that simple.
I don’t know.  Some folks believe we need more men like Hubert Humphrey; I believe we need more men like Corneliu Codreanu. This is a gulf that cannot be bridged, and essentially summarizes my unending hostility toward Der Movement.

Chutzpah Apparently Isn’t Only for Jews

The always wrong crowd marches on.

Gotta give Greg credit for chutzpah, quoting Lewis and all.

Any reviews from Hermansson?

To ensure the safety of all participants, we adhere to a strict vetting process for all first-time attendees.

Are you Swedish?  Want to give a speech at our meeting? On the dangers of infiltration!

This chutzpah is made somewhat less admirable by the realization that Johnson well knows that his affirmative action protections allow him to make horrendous error after horrendous error and get away with it.

Anyway, make a joke over your infiltrations.  And keep on laughing, rank-and-file; after all, the joke’s on you.

Speaking of errors – whatever you may think of Forney, he makes good points here.

This whole TRS incident underscores problems with the ”movement” – including the attitude, criticized here previously, of “you work with who you have.” No, No, NO.  The abysmally low quality of people in the “movement,” including “leaders,” is one major problem – the complete lack of judgment, the “handing the keys to the kingdom” to all sorts of questionable people, the laughable “extreme vetting” (are you Swedish?).  Forney is right here as well, “infiltrating the Alt Right is easy, because the Alt Right is run by retards.”  Bad judgment, no background checking – Forney is 100% spot-on correct here.

And the yeastbucket problem – all budding Joan of Arcs no doubt! – is underscored in that podcast as well.  As well as the obsession with “D’Nations” (including Forney himself, at the end) – that’s what it is all about, eh?

Well, I suppose these are all the “representatives of WN 3.0.”  The voices of WN 3.0!  Hail Victory! These guys are always, always wrong.

Basically, what you should do is whenever you hear “movement leaders” say something or write something – believe the opposite.

And keep this in mind – even IF Forney is 100% wrong here then that is still an indictment of Der Movement – more controversy, more dirty laundry, more freakishness, and more bad judgment from all sides.  ALL these guys are part of Der Movement – regardless of “whose side” you are on, someone here is wrong, someone here is lying, someone here is exhibiting piss-poor judgment.  It’s just a matter of which “movement” personality it is – whether it is one of “your guys” or one of “their guys.”  From my perspective, NONE of these guys are “my guys” – it is just an indictment of the whole scene, which is, and always has been, an unmitigated disaster.

WN 3.0!  WN 2.0!  WN 1.0! – My hobbit hole for WN!  Der Movement is a complete joke.  But, hey, keep on sending in those “D’Nations” and keep on buying dat dere “merchandise!”  The golden age exists today for those who give!  Free shipping!  

And, we know that when Forney criticizes certain people, they respond – “Hey, do you know what Forney does for a living?  He writes term papers for Asians!  He makes his living from White dispossession!”

I have three responses to that:

1. What Forney does for a living is not directly relevant to the truth or falsehood of his assertions.

2. If we want to give Forney a fair hearing, that does not mean we support him or take “his side” in these feuds.

3. What contributes more to “White dispossession” – writing term papers for Asians or being an inept “movement leader” who contributes to the downfall of White racial nationalism?

Remember when Johnson was so eager to “establish contact” with this “Pewdiepie?”

Wrong, wrong, they’re always wrong.

Of course, this Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg is Swedish.  So, not only are the Quota Queens always wrong, they are also always consistent. Hey, maybe Hermansson can help establish contact.  Mediation by HopeNotHate and the ADL optional.

Oppose the Movement Caste System for Europeans

No hypocrisy.

Let’s consider the following, emphasis added:

Bolton cites some of the anti-“Med” ramblings of the King of Ethnic Fetishism, “Wilmot Robertson,” and also quotes Stimely’s correct verdict on Robertson’s self-defeating rambling obsessions.  “Robertson” and his legacy remain a highly destructive force within (mostly American) racial nationalism, one major infection point for the obsessive fixations that still remain extant today.  But, let us give some credit to “Robertson” and his followers: at least they are honest about their disgust and contempt for Europeans deriving from the south of Vienna (or Munich) and to the east of Berlin. Worse perhaps are those types who actually believe the same as “Robertson” but make a pretense of being “pan-European” or “pan-Aryan.”  Note to those latter individuals: Europeans – Westerners – are not Hindu Indians, we do not have, or want, a caste system (with Eastern Europeans being lower caste and Southern Europeans being “untouchables”).  Pick your ingroup and that’s your ingroup – if you despise a group, then don’t include them; if you include them then don’t despise them. The basic definition of any group is “in/out” and if Der Movement can’t even get that straight, after decades of discussion and debate, then what good is it?  If that is “vertical race” then Yockey was right to oppose it, but not at the cost of disavowing biological reality

This is an important point I’ve made time and again. Pick your ingroup and then accept the consequences of that choice without being a hypocrite. If you despise certain European types, all well and good, but then please do not pretend that they are part of your ingroup for reasons of self-interest (to maximize followers and “D’Nations” and/or to appeal to members of your real chosen ingroup who have more pan-European ideals than you do yourself). If, on the other hand, you accept X,Y,Z in your ingroup, then there should be no caste system that says that X,Y,Z are inferior to, and subordinate to, A,B,C and that only A,B,C can be leaders and not X,Y,Z.  And don’t accept X,Y,Z with condescending contempt, use them for what they are worth, and then later state that “we need to re-evaluate the ingroup,” after which you exclude those who’ve already invested time, effort, and money for your cause. This latter type of behavior is particularly distasteful, despicable, and dishonorable (and has occurred in Der Movement).

What are the Chances?

Be honest.

Put aside all your hopes, what you want to happen, what you wish to happen. Imagine you have a powerful incentive to make the most accurate prediction possible.  Imagine that you must be absolutely, ruthlessly honest.

So, the issue here is – predict what the chances are for White racial nationalist victory.  What are the probabilities?  Choose from:

Zero – no chance of victory whatsoever; defeat and racial destruction is assured

Negligible – there is a theoretical chance of victory, it is greater than zero, but it is so small, it is like winning the lottery or being hit by lightning

Low – say up to 15%

Low to Moderate – 15-40%

Moderate – 40-60%

Moderate to High – 60-80%

High – 80-100%

Absolutely certain – 100% chance of victory, absolutely assured

For me, I’d say that if we stay on the current trajectory, and have Der Movement dominating racial activism, it is Negligible.  I will not say zero, because there is always a chance.

If a New Movement following my ideas arises that can effectively compete with Der Movement, perhaps we can move into the Low range. If this New Movement completely replaces Der Movement, and if things break our way, perhaps Low to Moderate. But, at this point, that’s it.  Even the most ludicrously optimistic evaluation, with EVERYTHING breaking our way, cannot pass Moderate.

And of all of the above, the scenario that is overwhelmingly most likely is the Negligible choice, the one in which Der Movement leads us to the grave.

Be honest.  Do this exercise yourself.

If you disagree with my pessimism, then, on your own blogs (if you have such), explain why – without falling into the Quota Queen dishonesty designed to maximize “D’Nations.”

The Dispossessed White Ethnics

Some accountability to balance the books.

Who was it who wrecked Europe and the entire White world?  Who wrecked the West? [Note – let’s not just blame “the Jews” now, shall we?]. Who was ultimately responsible, ethnically and nationally speaking, for the two World Wars that has put us all on the path to destruction?  What two European nations engaged in a selfish struggle between a rising land power and an established sea power, said struggle leading to the aforementioned wars?  Who is it who lurches from one extreme type of fanaticism to another, from extreme nationalism to extreme universalism, forcing the rest of Europe to go along for the ride?  Who was it who delegitimized racialism, nationalism, and fascism through their uncontrolled lunatic behavior?  Who tainted racialism with the label of genocide, tainted nationalism with the label of hegemonic war, and tainted fascism with the labels of hate, totalitarianism, and wanton destruction? Who refused to follow the cooperative path of the Montreux Conference, and instead had to go on their own way of bloodshed and military conquest (against other Europeans)?  That wasn’t Mussolini and Italy, or Codreanu and Romania. Choose again.  Who today opens the doors of Europe to the Third World?  Who has made the EU into a gulag for Europeans, for a vehicle for European dispossession?  Swarthoids?  Hunkies?  Other such “Outer Hajnal vermin?”  No, choose again, it wasn’t them.  Who was it in America who made common cause with Jews and Negroes for “civil rights” and “racial integration?” Who collaborated with Jews and Coloreds to wreck American cities?  

My critics will accuse me of some sort of animus (projection) or assert that I’m just as much as a divider as those I oppose, with the same sort of narrow ethnic agenda (albeit of a different specific kind). Not at all.  Long time readers of my blog are well aware that I am just as critical, if not more so, of the “ethnics,” even to the point of advocating elimination of fractions (~10-20%) of those populations in order to induce much needed eugenic improvement (of course, this can be achieved via sterilization of that population fraction, which is what practically should be done). However, one must speak the truth about EVERYONE, including Der Movement’s favorite ethnies; there needs to be counter-balance to Der Movement’s fossilized dogmas, to their rigid narratives. There has to be accountability, for a proper balancing of the books.

And dishonest hypocrisy has to be exposed. You have certain European types who blithely go about not only destroying their own nations, but do the same to those of others. And then, when some of these types wake up and become frustrated about the damage done (by their own people) to their nations, they blame others for the situation. It’s dem dere “unassimilable ethnics,” all those three foot tall “needle workers,” who are responsible for dispossessing Americans true majority!  It’s dem dere swarthoids who are endangering “Nordish” preservation!  You have folks whose ability to wreck nations and civilizations rival that of the Jews (although, unlike the Jews, these people also wreck themselves), but they project their frustrations outward and they never accept responsibility for what they have done and are still doing.

I am particularly bemused by the Type Is who leave comments on racialist blogs concerning American White ethnics asserting that – “they have to go back.”  Really?  Go back where? To the nations you destroyed, and are still destroying? You have dreadlocked German whores forcibly invading Italian territory to dump off African migrants. So the American wops should go back where?  Norwegians sail the Mediterranean desperately looking for any Afro-Asiatics they can “rescue” and dump into Southern Europe. The swarthoids should go back where?  Richard Gere can’t wait to aid the invasion of other people’s nations.  Go back where?  Mama Merkel’s pronouncements not only invite the invasion of her own nation but those of the Southern half of Europe. Go back where?  Hey, if you say “they all have to go back,” then maybe you should leave them nations to go back to, instead of actively and avidly wrecking those nations like you’ve wrecked everything else.

Quo Vadis pan-Europeanism?

Whither pan-Europeanism?

Anyone else notice that Amren is really pushing the work of McCulloch recently?  Once again Sallis is proven correct, as I predicted that the HBD-Nordicist alliance, with Jewish/Asian interests in the background, will always attempt to divide Europeans against each other. Der Movement is tiresomely predictable, and the HBDers most of all.

Comment from the threads:

Miss Annie  

Southern and Eastern Europeans are admixed with Asian and Arab blood due to wars and invasions during the Middle Ages onward. For example, Spain and Portugal were conquered by Muslims in the eight century. It took eight centuries to get rid of the Muslims, but they still left their legacy in its inhabitants which, in turn, slowed the country’s economic growth as well scientific and literary progress.

Evidence of Siberian/East Asian admixture in Northern Europe – which even the radically hardcore Nordicist Durocher now admits exists (although he claims it is “beneficial” to all humanity) – is of course excluded from such screeds.  

Note to White ethnics – leave Der Movement ASAP.  

Now, let’s look at input on this matter from everyone’s favorite dishonest commentator Silver: 

For some people, the racial and cultural differences become too significant to paper over as one moves from northwest Europe to southeast Europe. Although pan-European ideals hold some degree of personal appeal for me, I think it’s terribly unrealistic to expect most people to ever share them. Pan-Slavism had more going for it than pan-Europeanism, but even that never really got off the ground.

Slav is technically not a racial term, but I am not opposed to its use in this way. There is less racial variation among the people encompassed by the linguistic term Slav than there is in the racial term ‘white’, after all.

I have the impression that people tend to run away from Slav as a racial identifier in a bid to avoid association with the sorts of things that WNs have historically regarded as backward or inferior in Slavic cultures. This is especially so if they are coming at WN from a national socialist angle.

Despite the numerous factors in its favor, pan-Slavism would, I agree, have served as little more than a vehicle for the promotion of Russian interests, simply given the sheer weight of numbers on the Russian side.

It’s easy enough to proclaim European unity, especially in internet comments, but achieving actual unity in real world activism is rather more difficult.

A racial movement is not like other movements, in which membership is determined by the views a person claims to hold. Membership is decided by visual identification. No amount of pleading will ever persuade some people to accept those they visually identify as too racially divergent, nor do constant reassurances do much to assuage the doubts of those whose inclusion is questioned.

The history of racial activism has amply demonstrated, I think, that any real world get-together will always be infected by such hardliners who will invariably express their views and question other people’s inclusion, leading to bickering and self-doubt – at which point any presumed ‘unity’ goes out the window.

The only way I can see for a racial movement to surmount this problem is market itself as a cultural movement – to promote a European cultural identity – and trust that, essentially, only whites will ever really be attracted to it. Misgivings about visual identifications would not then be the barrier to unity they are in a strictly racial movement. The very racial hardliners that make unity so difficult in a racial movement would also likely self-select out of a cultural movement, which would also ease the way to unity.

If you knew nothing about Silver’s past history, these comments would seem somewhat reasonable, even though we may disagree with the recommendations he makes. Unfortunately for him, some of us have long memories, and statements from him like “Although pan-European ideals hold some degree of personal appeal for me…” rank among the most dishonest in the history of the Internet.  Silver has been a bitter enemy of pan-Europeanism for the past dozen years, and has been mocking, attacking, and deconstructing pan-Europeanism, often in the most mendacious and or infantile fashion, ever since he started infesting the Majority Rights comments threads in the mid-2000s.

Regarding his contention that “Membership is decided by visual identification…” that may hold for the McCulloch faction, but many – most? – people in Der Movement go by ancestry.  For example, most people in Der Movement would reject a “Nordish” Jew, but accept a darker, swart cockney “Paleo-Atlantid” Englishman.

With respect to the main point that White unity in Der Movement will always be undermined by Nordicist hardliners who reject and exclude other Whites and by the reaction of those other Whites to that exclusion, I agree. My brief period of thinking that compromise was possible was wrong-headed delusion on my part; I can admit when I have been wrong, and I was wrong in that case.  If that makes some question my judgment, so be it.  Unlike Greg Johnson and the other Quota Queens, I’m not going to hide my errors in an attempt to safeguard others’ opinions of me.

Silver’s recommendations are flawed.  Cultural nationalism does not solve the race problem to everyone’s satisfaction; even if it are mostly Whites who are attracted to it, it still leaves the door open for mass “cultural conversion” and assimilation, attacking the foundations of racial preservationism. One solution, and that which I have advocated, is adding (not replacing) cultural factors to racial ones, instead of replacing race with culture, or vice versa – thus merging the Salterian and Yockeyian viewpoints (note I use Salterian not McCullochian – ancestry not phenotype).

Pan-Slavism has been, as Silver admits, a failure and a vehicle for Russian domination. Further, it can exhibit the same problems as pan-Europeanism. One can imagine neo-Nordicist North Slav types, such as the Polako and Raciology specimens, attacking “racially admixed” South Slavs and making a distinction between “True Slavs” (Poles, Russians) and “False Slavs” (Serbians, Bulgarians). Same problem, smaller scale.

Personally, I’m a pessimist, and believe that Der Movement has already ruined a viable chance at victory.  But, we can still try. What I advocate is that the small minority of activists who are pan-Europeanists (true ones, not Nordicists trying to expand their “D’Nations” base) cut loose from Der Movement and go their own way.

Pan-Europeanists should have their own groups, groupuscules, blogs, websites, organizations, meetings, etc.  They should build a New MovementThey should be hardliners themselves – absolutely eschewing, excluding, and rejecting all Nordicists, fetishists, HBDers and other dividers.  Now, there are possible problems here.  There are so few true pan-Europeanists that there may not be a critical mass for success.  From experience, I know that Nordicists and others of similar ilk will always try to weasel their way into pan-European groups, to subvert the mission and undermine activities. Conversely, there will be pan-Europeanists who will impatiently attempt to expand their influence by accepting these other types or at least by making “alliances” with them. These dangers will exist.  But if Type II pan-Europeanists can perform better than the Type I Nutzis dancing through cemeteries with their swastika-soled boots, then they can  provide an attractive, viable alternative to the failed “movement” and to the hardline dividers to whom Silver refers. A more successful and sane movement can attract high quality people, establishing a positive feedback loop of steady and sound growth, while leaving the failed “movement” to degenerate under the weight of its own failures and insanity.

Do I think this will occur?  No. I think the swastika-soled boots crowd will dance off into the sunset, tripping over a tombstone, hurdling headlong into the grave. The majority of rank-and-file activists – including many who call themselves pan-European – are slavishly addicted to Der Movement and will not break ranks with it until it is too late to do any good.

We’re very likely doomed.  You can’t say I haven’t warned you.  You can’t say that I haven’t been (constantly) offering you an alternative.  It’s been your choice to (constantly) reject that alternative.


I’d like to make one more important point.  If pan-Europeanism is so crazy and unrealistic, then why is that that you have Nordicists – Pierce and Duke being two prominent examples – who always seem to find it necessary to pretend to be pan-European?  I alluded to one possible reason above, the desire to maximize followers and followers’ donations. But I see three more fundamental reasons for this.  

First, although authentic pan-Europeanists are relatively few, they have an influence out of proportion to their numbers.  Consider Yockey – you have the hardcore ethnonationalists of Counter-Currents always promoting Yockey and his work, and the Nordicist National Alliance is now selling Yockey’s masterpiece Imperium. And all these types have not hesitated to make use of my own work in the past.  Second, although there is a significant and very loud hardline Nordicist faction as well as Nordicist-oriented rank-and-file activists, there is also a significant, more “silent,” fraction of activists who are at least vaguely sympathetic to pan-Europeanism, and who would be a mobilizable force with better (and more genuine) leadership.  Third, the White masses already think excluding even the Jews is nutty; thus, excluding Southern and Eastern Europeans would strike many of them as completely unhinged. Many of the things that are acceptable within Der Movement’s “amen corner” would not “fly” in the broader society. I understand the difference between descriptive and prescriptive, but if the prescriptive is derived from the counter-productive obsessions of a particular hardline faction, then perhaps the prescription needs to be re-thought.

Therefore, perhaps the problem is not with pan-Europeanism, but instead derived from the fact that the American “movement” had its genesis in Nordicism and Anglocentrism, amplified by the obsessions with Hitler and Nazi race doctrine, and so these paradigms are too deeply embedded within the Old Movement to be effectively opposed from within. The same holds for Old Movement dogma outside America, with Anglocentrism being of course prominent in the Anglosphere “movement,” and Hitlerian thought being prominent among activists in “Germanic” Europe.  However, that all applies specifically to Der Movement – the Old Movement – not to society at large, and not to the nucleus of activists who could, under the right circumstances, initiate the development of a New Movement.

But, again, I’m pessimistic.