Category: Slavs

Whither the White Ethnics

Men or mice?

Considering all the usual “movement” shenanigans, which go on and on without end, it is clear that Der Movement, Inc. has nothing to offer to so-called White ethnics (Southern Europeans, Eastern Europeans, and Irish Catholics).

At best, you’ll be nothing more than a subaltern step-and-fetchit caste; at worst, you are “the niggers of Europe” (Irish), “Euroniggers” (Italians), “Asiatic subhumans” (Slavs), “Med filth” (all Southern Europeans”), “Tatars” (Russians), “hora-dancing Gypsies” (Romanians), or “greasy Gypsies” (the Hungarian Orban, of all people, has been called that).  And if you say that “movement leaders” don’t believe that or use that language, I’ll tell you that at best they tolerate it (wink, wink, nod, nod) at their websites and in their organizations, and at worst, they really do believe it and encourage it (typically indirectly so as to keep enough “cover” to maximize tin cup panhandling among their White ethnic adherents).

What then to do if you are a racially aware White ethnic?  Indifference or hostility to racial nationalism is maladaptive. Narrow ethnonationalism is a self-defeating dead end. So is any sort of makeshift subracialism or regionalism. Staying within Der Movement, Inc. and accepting it as it is means that you really are the cringing racially degenerate inferiors the fetishists claim you are.  

What is necessary is for all pan-European-minded persons of European stock worldwide – both the Anglo-Germanic pan-Europeanists and the White ethnic pan-Europeanists – to together reject the Old Movement, and build a New Movement, based on sound principles (my suggestions are here).

Unfortunately, I suspect that for the most part this will fall on deaf eyes and blind eyes, and many White ethnic racial activists will be content to fil the role of “movement” court jesters, vying for table scraps, the target of (in this case) well-deserved contempt and disdain.  Why should you expect Anglo-Germanic pan-Europeanists to be concerned if you won’t lift a finger to help yourselves first?  A pan-European Movement cannot be a mirror image of the EU – or at least, popular perceptions of the EU – where hard-working and disciplined Germanics have to carry along lazy, undisciplined, and incompetent PIGS peoples. I’ve tried to do my part for two decades; why can’t the rest of you demonstrate that there are some men left among the micks, wops, dagoes, and hunkies?  

Men or mice?  You decide.

Now, let’s flip the analysis, and look at it from the perspective of the “movement.”  What I say to Der Movement is this.  If you want to restrict your ingroup to Anglo-Germanic Europeans, if you want to repel and eschew White ethnics, then by all means continue doing what you are doing, full steam ahead, you’re doing a great job.  However, if you want to appeal to, and recruit, White ethnics, I must tell you in all sincerity that you are sabotaging your efforts on a regular basis. Typically, the way to appeal to, and recruit, people is not to constantly and gratuitously offend them, distort their identities, and go out of your way to use dubious (at best) or obviously ludicrous (at worst) memes to undermine your target audience and say, in so many words (and sometimes more or less directly), that they are worthless.  It’s also not conducive for recruitment when you use dubious or ludicrous memes to denigrate those you ostensibly want to recruit, while suppressing genuine, objectively verifiable memes that focus negative attention on outgroups like Jews and Asians.  If your alleged objective is to appeal to all Whites, then you are digging a deep hole for yourselves.  Maybe the first step to remedy the situation is: stop digging.  

An amusing side note: on a pussy pedestalization website, a post about The Godfather.  Excerpt of a comment left, re: “Don Corleone”:

He was a Saracen rape baby and so was his son. 90% White America was a stranger to a not-at-all White Sicilian.

Sallis correct again.  It is impossible for there to be even one post, anywhere in any precinct even tangentially related to Der Movement, about White ethnics without the usual kneejerk response. 

Keep on digging your hole.

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SLC News: More December 2017

Several items.

There’s an old saying that when one’s opponents make errors, you should just sit back and let them do it, and I have actually been holding back on commenting on some things recently, for that very reason.  However, when things occur that are absolutely ludicrous, the cost/benefit ratio moves in the direction of shining a light on it.  Included in this in the remarkable decision of Counter-Currents to expend its political capital in Der Movement defending the likes of Lauren Southern.  We’ve reached new heights of “jumping Moby Dick” with this:

It is possible that this will be the dumbest piece of writing in the history of Counter-Currents. That’s not my fault. The subject matter is dumb, and it will be hard to rise above it. I’ll do my best, and because the subject matter is dumb, I’ll be brief.

Among the recent charges against Lauren Southern is the claim that she is a sex worker who poses in revealing clothing in order to encourage men to masturbate to her pictures. She makes money thereby, so she is in essence a pornstar, even though she doesn’t perform sex acts on camera. Her pictures are so sexually powerful that many men are compelled to masturbate. These beta-orbiters just can’t help themselves, and Lauren acquires money from the cyber-fapping that she encourages.

That may be good for page hits I suppose, but the damage it does to the intellectual credibility of that blog is stupendous.  It’s analogous to Majority Rights being discredited by allowing J Richards to post porno pictures of women with smiley faces cover their nipples.

That Der Movement has been actually reduced to debating the onanistic habits of those who waste their time watching YouTube videos of useless females is, frankly, astounding.  Not surprising to me, but, from an objective standpoint, still astounding.


Look at this (apparently now deleted) exchange (emphasis added):


Joseph CurwenPosted December 21, 2017 at 4:57 am | Permalink

I think we should focus on securing the existence of our people and a future for white children instead of writing essays of 1.200 words defending someone who isn’t one of us and is actively against White Nationalism. 

Greg JohnsonPosted December 21, 2017 at 11:38 am | Permalink

Prove to me that you have done one concrete thing to help the white cause, beyond posting comments on the web.

Joseph CurwenPosted December 21, 2017 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

1. In cooperation with another Comrade, translating and publishing a considerable number of texts of H. Covington, whose works were totally unknown in the Spanish speaking world. Here is the blog (now more or less inactive due to personal reasons):
http://nfspanish.blogspot.com.co/
2. Translating (and publishing the next year) “Nietzsche His Life and Works” from Anthony M. Ludovici. The publishing house (Editorial Solar) is the same that published “Mein Kampf”, “The Protocols” and other important works in the Spanish speaking world.
3. Right now, I’m working in the translation of Nesta Webster’s “The Secret of the Zodiac”, to be published in the same publishing house.

Greg JohnsonPosted December 21, 2017 at 2:48 pm | Permalink 

Good work. Don’t waste any more time commenting here.


Johnson’s behavior is becoming increasingly erratic. The complete intolerance to any criticism is simply not normal, and not reflective of his behavior, say, five years ago.  

The last I looked, that exchange has now been deleted from the thread!  Instead, half the current comments are from Asians and lickspittle Asia-worshipers.  Remember this?  Do you still doubt that post’s accurate observation of your fearless leaders, who, in their almost pathological lack of self-awareness, are suffering from the same outgroup altruism and ingroup altruistic punishment that they decry in others?


Read the Curwen-Johnson exchange, consider it has been deleted, and carefully consider the consequences of a “movement leadership” that favors cunning Orientals and race-mixing mudsharks over genuine, sincere activists.  Consider the monumental hubris of people who cannot take the slightest hint of criticism and who state that they “fire” donors who have the temerity to ask that their donations be used for certain projects. 


A major difference between EGI Notes and Counter-Currents is this.  95% of the over-the-top rhetoric here is (as I’ve stated many times for the obtuse) for effect; I’m intentionally ridiculing the “movement” clownshow that I’m completely exasperated with after putting up with more than twenty years of nonsense (the other 5% is genuine outrage against the likes of Deasy and Munro).  Johnson, on the other hand, I believe is 100% serious when he bans people simply for having the temerity to disagree with him on something, when he talks about “firing donors,” and when he expends political capital defending low rent slutty airheads whose “hundreds of thousands” of followers likely mostly are what Weev says they are.  If it all were all really a joke, I would say “well done,” you’ve outdone anything I’ve ever played out.  But it’s not a joke.  It’s actually serious.

Chinese Nationalist Maiden writes:

Of course, I know that I have to be immune to criticism myself since people will try to alienate me from the White survival movement merely because I am (a) an Asian and (b) a woman. These accusations sound nonsensical to me. Being an Asian woman is irrelevant to me for believing that White survival is right. I support Whites on principle and I am disgusted with the tasteless liberal-democratic leftist and Marxist-Leninist hatred of White people. Denying Whites the right to live is just beyond disgusting and I cannot live in good conscience with myself if I did not support White survival.

The problem is when non-Whites promote their own racial interests while pretending to be part of the “pro-White cause.”  This disgusting and dishonest “Chinese Nationalist Maiden” is one of the worst.  Can she tell us precisely: in what country do you live?  After all, if you are so much in favor of White survival, you wouldn’t be living in any (majority) White nation now, are you?  Of course – of course! – you live in, say, Taiwan or Singapore, right?  Right?


Silver, of all people, has been mostly talking good sense on the comments thread of the anti-Romanian Amren piece.  Now, catch this reply to Silver from the author of that piece:


Silver: ‘Politically, something being true is not, of itself, reason enough to say it. Decisions about what to say have to be weighed against their likely impact on political objectives.’

Anti-Romanian Ingrate: This sounds a bit like the sort of thing you hear from the left: ‘We shouldn’t talk about race because it’s likely to have bad social consequences.’ One of the virtues of the right is that it acknowledges the existence of objective truth and allows more or less free exploration in the attempt to get at it. It’s in the spirit of the West to do so.


Excuse me, you anti-Romanian outrageous, filthy hypocrite, but if “One of the virtues of the right is that it acknowledges the existence of objective truth and allows more or less free exploration in the attempt to get at it. It’s in the spirit of the West to do so” then I ask:


WHY DOESN’T AMREN RUN CRITICAL ARTICLES ABOUT JEWS ANALOGOUS TO THE ONE YOU WROTE ABOUT ROMANIANS?  WHY WON’T THEY EVEN TALK ABOUT POPULATION GENETICS STUDIES BY ISRAELI RESEARCHERS THAT SHOW JEWS TO BE DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT FROM EUROPEANS?  WHY WAS THE HORNBECK PIECE ABOUT MACDONALD MODIFIED TO MAKE IT MORE PRO-JEWISH?

Newsflash: Selective “honesty” is just another form of dishonesty.  Hypocrites.

Of related interest, this exchange:

Zaida  LHathaway • 15 hours agoBefore communism it was even worse in Eastern Europe: Slavs are incapable of producing anything of cultural value. Visit Poland or Romania and see the mess with your own eyes, as I’ve seen.

Independent Thinker  Zaida • 10 hours ago“Slavs are incapable of producing anything of cultural value.”
Complete hogwash. Let’s see: The periodic table of elements – Mendeleev, discovery of the atmosphere of Venus, the Law of Mass conservation, demonstrating the organic origin of peat, soil, coal petroleum, etc, plus many other things — Lomonosov, Quantum electronics work leading to the development of the laser and maser (and Nobel Prize) — Basov, Laser and Maser development (also same Nobel Prize) — Prokhorov, involved in the invention of the radio — Popov, work in low temperature physics leading to Nobel Prize — Pyotr Kapista, Development of Soviet nuclear weapons — Kurchatov, founder of field surgery — Pirogov, Stability theory of a dynamical system — Lyapunov, Timoshenko Beam Theory — Timoshenko, work in radioactivity, radium, and polonium — Marie Curie (recipient of two Nobel Prizes), inventor of the polarographic method, father of the electroanalytical method, and recipient of the Nobel Prize in 1959 for his discovery and development of the polarographic methods of analysis — Heyrovsky, inventor of Yablochkov Candle and Transformer — Yablochkov, Kolmogorov, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Rimsky-Korsakov, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Gogol, Chekov, Repin, Aivazovsky, Vastnetsov, Polenov, … too many to mention..

I will now give you the most important comment in the entire blog history of EGI NotesThe biggest impediment to the success of pro-White activism is Der Movement, Inc. itself.

Silk Road News: Roissy and the Asians

More Asian perfidy.

Yet another Asian consumed by hatred of Whites…or simply, just a typical Asian.

An Asian Cultural Marxist…in other words, an Asian.

The toilet paper looters.  Very cognitive, very elite.

We need some more he-man Slavs to go to the Russian Far East and toss those diseased Chinamen back over the Amur.

If you like female military, then these can be the real border guards of the West, not frog-faced Chinatrices.

Here is a two-for-one deal from Chateau Heartise: it not only exposes Asian sexual degeneracy, but it also once again shows Roissy as an unrepentant race-mixer, an outrageous hypocrite of the first order:

Every Asian girl with whom I’ve lain (small sample set, tbh) has stuck a finger up my ass during a blowjob, or tried to. Talk about HELLO KITTY. One waifu rooted around down there like a tunnel rat in the ‘Nam jungle.

Wassupwitdat? Anyone else notice that Asian girls have an odd fascination with the male anus (manus) as a portal to mutual pleasure? Or so they envision it. Personally, I was not a fan. One Chinese-American girl looked genuinely crestfallen (as best one can discern emotion on an Asian’s face) when I recoiled and retracted from her probings with Kegelian thrusters set to escape velocity.

I wonder too if this is a fetish peculiar to Asian chicks as an group…or only to Asian chicks making sweet rove to the White Man. What’s the Asian equivalent of a mudshark? Chaddragon? Paleface pirate? Crackerjacker? Ivory poacher? Milk mugger? Frosted Flip? Bang wan wang? Bleached Lee? Fat Man and Little Koi? Ghost in the vajeen? Occiwench? Wog-eater? Epicanthicc? Ah, I see that the slang for it is Potato Queen. Meh.

Anyhow, maybe Asian girls always feel like they’re batting out of their league with White men, and presumably are compelled by the perceived SMV imbalance to extracarnally impress White men with that attention to physiologic detail only an Asian can grind out when the hind’s out.

Or Asian girls are magnetically drawn in by the anus region with a force matched only by gay homosexuals. 

That all puts a quite unique spin on the whole “border guards of the West” idea.

Der Movement in the (der) News, 9/16/16

Two items.


Is Putin’s Russia more repressive than Xi Jinping’s China?
Yet, Republicans rarely use “thug” when speaking about Xi.

Er…Xi is a Holy Oriental, a HBD God that walketh the Earth. Putin is just some dumb Slav. Come now, there’s a big difference! Even the GOP Establishment worships at the Altar of Asia, and why not? What’s the difference between a Derbyshire and a McCain, politically-wise?

Fine. How does Israel regard Putin “the thug” and Putin “the butcher”?

According to foreign policy scholar Stephen Sniegoski, when Putin first visited Israel in 2005, President Moshe Katsav hailed him as a “friend of Israel” and Ariel Sharon said he was “among brothers.”
In the last year alone, Bibi Netanyahu has gone to Moscow three times and Putin has visited Israel. The two get along wonderfully well.

Hey! That’s part of Putin’s “deep chess game!” He’s really an Alt-Right Traditionalist Anti-Semite, and don’t you ever think different!
Prayers, schmayers. More important: What was his cephalic index? Praetorian Guard, break out your calipers!

Der Movement Sows, Der Movement Reaps

Harvesting the crop of stupidity.


Given this essential agreement with those he is criticizing, what exactly are Mr. Williamson’s objections to “white nationalism?”

1. Firstly, he devotes a lot of space to a silly remark by some unnamed internet troll that “the Italians are not really a white people” — without, alas, explaining why this should be taken as an authoritative expression of “white nationalism.”

2. Similarly beside the point is his allegation that “white nationalists begin by defining as ‘white’ people who look like themselves and work backward from there to determine who is, and who isn’t, ‘white.’” This appears to be a variant of the charge that racialists are interested in skin color or other physical traits rather than in the people for whom those traits are a (rough) marker. Clyde Wilson has not found this line of argument beneath himself either. Relax, Chronicles — if “white nationalists” are that stupid, you need not worry yourself about them.

A while back, some of us criticized the “movement,” asserting that the ethnic fetishism, obsessions, subjective evaluations of phenotype, and intra-White hostilities would and do delegitimize racial nationalism to people who otherwise could become useful adherents to the worldview.  That criticism was met essentially with the counter-view that the criticism was all just “ethnic” special pleading.  But, Williamson is not a dumb swart Med or a debonair Slavic brute:  

To my knowledge, I haven’t a drop of non-British blood—English, Scottish, Irish, probably Welsh—in my veins. 


Williamson’s arguments are breathtakingly stupid, and his understanding of European ethnicity and history is abysmal.  But the point remains that Williamson’s stupidities were and are provoked and enabled by the equal stupidity of the “movement.”  “Two wrongs don’t make a right,” as they say; the fact that Williamson is ignorant and illogical doesn’t make the “movement” any less ignorant and illogical.  Indeed, it is the opposite: each feeds off the other.

REAL Russians Speak Out

Slavs speaking out for Slavs.

I’m no expert on RONS, or on the details of Russian ethnonationalism, but at first glance, these guys seem a lot better than Trad Vlad.
But, do these fellows get any consideration from the American “movement?”  No, they do not.  You see, they are merely genuine Russian patriots, they are not “macho men,” riding horses shirtless on the plains of Tuvanic Siberia (Ah! The New Motherland!), thus appealing to the prurient interests of the shrieking schoolgirl weaklings and their “White Knight” fantasies.
RONS: Da; Putin: Nyet.