Category: testing

Against the Arctic Alliance

Amren once again giving Yellow Supremacism a forum.

Well-known novelist and cultural commentator John Derbyshire explained his concept of an “Arctic Alliance” between Asians and whites. He said these groups have in common a high mean IQ and low fertility rates, which could lead to a common strategy against the “demographic” and “dysgenic” threat posed by mass immigration. Mr. Derbyshire raised and then refuted several objections to his plan. These ranged from questions of terminology and feasibility to larger issues about whether Asians will follow whites down the path of self-hatred. He wondered whether ethnomasochism is unique to whites or is “the inevitable result of post-industrial society.” He argued that the purpose of groups like American Renaissance is to resist dispossession and to build a defensive strategy of “Arctic peoples” that can ensure the survival of civilization.

Err, excuse me, you lousy despicable wad of shit Derbyshire, you who had no problem with agreeing with the description of Amren attendees as “latrine flies” before your defenestration from National Review, but Asians are part of the demographic mass immigration threat to the West.  How about stopping the Asian influx, and repatriating the aliens, including your family, and then we can take another look at this alliance, hmmm?   In fact, Asians are part of the Colored Alliance against Whites, and Yellow Supremacists like Amren are part of the HBD political movement to enslave Whites to Asian interests. 

And Derbyshire is such a breathtakingly dishonest fraud it is stunning.

He completely ignores the two biggest objections, actually completely distorting the first objection, which is that as radically different races and civilizations, Whites and Asians are natural enemies, with conflicting interests; they are not, and can never be, allies.  Derbyshire laughs in our face by talking about “similarities” between the two groups, as if the only objection was a “narcissism of small differences,” while East Asians are approximately as genetically distant from Europeans as are sub-Saharan Africans.

Second, as alluded to above, Asians are part of the problem, they are part of the Rising Tide of Color, and they are part of the demographic tidal wave swamping the West.  And Asians in America are anti-White political leftists, proving the point.  In the long term, if Whites survive the current threat (which Asians are mightily contributing to), then Asians, particularly East Asians, will constitute our most formidable competitors, our most serious threat. Do you make an alliance with your greatest long-term enemy, particularly when that enemy is currently actively trying to destroy you?

Even apart from all of that, practically speaking, the “Arctic Alliance” idea is absurd.  An alliance is predicated on the two sides assisting each other against a threat.  How would this occur in this case? If Asians wanted to help Whites then they could simply stop invading our nations – and take back the invaders already here, including “Rosie and the kids.”  Or are we to accept the Silk Road White nationalism solution – colonies and armed garrisons of Asians patrolling the borders of the West, guarding against the Global South immigration threat (that the Asians are actually part of), with Chinese girls with guns running the show? That’s great.  Depending on “allies” for your own defense really worked out well for latter-day Rome, didn’t it?  And why would Asians defend the West?  What’s in it for them – apart from conquest?  And Whites, who cannot even defend their own nations, are not fit allies for anyone.  Indeed, if Whites became fit allies, then they would no longer need the alliance to begin with. The practical application of the alliance undermines its own justification.

No, the whole thing is merely Derbyshire trying to obfuscate the divide of race, civilization, and hatred that separates Occident from Orient, White from Yellow, West from East, Europeans from Asians, so as to make White America safe for his mixed-race family.  Sorry Derb, we are not obligated to sacrifice our own interests because of your life choices.  Just crawl back home and do some more “measure groveling” (and who knows what else) for “Rosie.”


Counter-Currents commentator gets it right:

Ambrose Kane

 “John Derbyshire explained his concept of an “Arctic Alliance” between Asians and whites” – This doesn’t surprise me, especially when one considers that Derbyshire has an Asian wife and half-Asian children. I know he will deny that this has influenced him, but I find it hard to believe that his own act of miscegenation hasn’t motivated him in some sense to hope for an ‘Arctic Alliance’ between Asians and Whites.

I find the notion of an ‘Arctic Alliance’ less than convincing. Although the Asians, generally, have some admirable qualities and traits, they are very much different than Whites. They are conniving and deeply committed to their own. Their ethical framework differs greatly from the western one, especially one that might be influenced by Christian values.

Moreover, such an ‘Arctic Alliance’ will inevitably lead to greater miscegenation between Asians and Whites. How can it not when such an alliance and cooperation is encouraged as something good for us? This is probably last thing we should want or promote since our birthrates are already greatly dwindling.

I don’t know if Derbyshire has an ‘Asian fetish’ as some have maintained. However, it’s become clear to me having listened to him on several occasions that he is far too pro-Asian for my tastes. At a time when our numbers are dwindling and when anti-White propaganda is spreading at fever pitch throughout the world, the last thing Whites should be encouraging is ‘alliances’ with Asians or any other racial group. We ought to be suspicious when such calls come from one who is himself married to an Asian and has produced half-Asian children.

Actually, Derbyshire does not deny the influence of his home situation, he just claims that it does not matter since he is right about the Arctic Alliance.  But he is not right, for the reasons stated above.  If anything, Whites should be forming an alliance among themselves against Asians, not an alliance with Asians.

Ethnoracial nepotism on display.  Where are all the leftists screeching that it is not adaptive? Or is that only for White folks?

Notice the Israeli connection.  Mazel Tov!

What standards of accuracy for the ancestry testing?

The company also emphasized “the distinction that [23andMe’s] ancestry testing is different from our health report testing, which is regulated by the FDA and meets the agency’s standards for accuracy and clinical validity.”

As I’ve been telling you. Emphasis added:

Companies like 23andMe, Ancestry.com, and MyHeritage compare your set of SNPs to known reference groups (SNPs that tend to be found in people of, say, Greek origin). The tests are looking for evidence that you have common ancestors with people in the reference group.

But the reference group each company uses can be different.

Another limitation: These reference groups are largely based on people who are self-reporting their ancestry. These people may be pretty confident that they know where their families come from, but it’s not a perfect measure. 

 

Ancestry DNA companies can often track down European DNA to specific countries [Salis note: Only for those with parental privilege]. But if you’re a minority [Sallis note: Or a non-privileged European], your report might be vaguer. Prior to this past summer, 23andMe could only match people to just three broad regions in sub-Saharan Africa, which is an enormous area with a lot of geographic and ethnic diversity. And that’s just because there aren’t as many African people in these company’s reference data sets. 

“Imagine you’re from a small town in Spain,” Pickrell says. “If [the testing companies] have a bunch of people from that small town, they can match you against them really effectively.” But if they don’t have people from that specific small town, they might just determine you’re broadly Spanish, or European [Sallis note: Or “unassigned”].

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More on Ethnogenesis in Southern Europe

Genes in der news.

A preprint, emphasis added:

A series of studies have documented how Steppe pastoralist-related ancestry reached central Europe by at least 2500 BCE, while Iranian farmer-related ancestry was present in Aegean Europe by at least 1900 BCE. However, the spread of these ancestries into the western Mediterranean where they have contributed to many populations living today remains poorly understood. We generated genome-wide ancient DNA from the Balearic Islands, Sicily, and Sardinia, increasing the number of individuals with reported data from these islands from 3 to 52. We obtained data from the oldest skeleton excavated from the Balearic islands (dating to ~2400 BCE), and show that this individual had substantial Steppe pastoralist-derived ancestry; however, later Balearic individuals had less Steppe heritage reflecting geographic heterogeneity or immigration from groups with more European first farmer-related ancestry. In Sicily, Steppe pastoralist ancestry arrived by ~2200 BCE and likely came at least in part from Spain as it was associated with Iberian-specific Y chromosomes. In Sicily, Iranian-related ancestry also arrived by the Middle Bronze Age, thus revealing that this ancestry type, which was ubiquitous in the Aegean by this time, also spread further west prior to the classical period of Greek expansion. In Sardinia, we find no evidence of either eastern ancestry type in the Nuragic Bronze Age, but show that Iranian-related ancestry arrived by at least ~300 BCE and Steppe ancestry arrived by ~300 CE, joined at that time or later by North African ancestry. These results falsify the view that the people of Sardinia are isolated descendants of Europe’s first farmers. Instead, our results show that the island’s admixture history since the Bronze Age is as complex as that in many other parts of Europe.

So, let’s assume this work is, at least in the broadest sense, accurate about Sardinia. Thus, the idea that Sardinians are merely unmixed Neolithic EEF farmers is false. This puts all the other work in the field showing Sardinians as of an unmixed ancestral component into question – or does it merely confirm what I have written, that the outcome of population genetics measurement depends on how it is performed?  Possibly the latter.  If you stop the analysis at one level, Sardinians are unmixed; however, if you dig deeper and look for more ancient ancestral components, with different reference samples (this is ALWAYS the key – it is always about the parentals), then different results are obtained.  One wonders though how long Der Movement will keep on mindlessly repeating – “Sardinians are pure EEF.”

More important perhaps is the “Iranian-related ancestry” – “which was ubiquitous in the Aegean”- being found in Sicily as far back as the Middle Bronze Age. Once again, my suppositions are supported, as I have suggested that the “Near Eastern/Middle Eastern, Southwest Asian, West Asian,” etc. ancestral components identified by the ancestry testing companies (and by some studies) in Mediterranean Europe, including the West Mediterranean islands, are for the most part of ancient origin, present in this part of Europe for thousands of years.  Hence, it is part of the ethnogenesis of various European ethnies, and should be considered indigenous European ancestry.  If the ancestry testing companies (and others) would properly include a broader range of populations as parentals, then results that cause spontaneous sweaty ejaculation among Nutzis would be presented quite differently.  Note the part of the abstract “many other parts of Europe” to describe ancient “admixture history.”  There are a variety of ancient ancestral components in Europe dating back thousands of years, if not by the Bronze Age then at least by the Classical Period. These are all elements contributing to the ethnogenesis of extant European ethnies.

The authors do state in the main text that population modeling demonstrates that some degree of North African ancestry was added on to these Western Mediterranean islands (e.g., Sardinia, Sicily) after the Bronze Age, some of which may be modern – although the authors talk of the “last two millennia.”  This minority ancestry – which is curiously absent from many ancestry testing company results and which therefore may be another artifact of population modeling – is, to the extent that it is real, part of the ethnogenesis of these European populations.   

However, the question of modeling influencing results, and the reality of those results, can be re-examined by taking another look at that table from Durocher’s latest onanism material.

Note that Germans are being used as the European component representative for the admixture analysis, and despite that, Northern and Central European populations are still getting percentages ascribed to “Saharawi” and “Qatari” components.  Given clinal gene frequencies, it is not surprising that Southern European populations are modeled as having North African and Near Eastern ancestral components compared to Germans, but what to make of, for example, such ancestry in Swedes, Norwegians, Scots, and the Irish? I presume that Der Movement does not believe that such populations have any modern admixture from North African or Near Eastern sources. Therefore, the findings for those populations are artifacts from the modeling, ancient admixture, or both.  If that is so, then any “real” modern admixture in the Southern European populations has to be whatever small percentages in excess of that found in Northern and Central Europe, and even there, the clinal gene frequency issue has to be considered.  The same principles hold for the modeling in the preprint discussed above.

Consider also the old saying – “if you look for something, you will find it.”  Some population geneticists seem to have an agenda of wanting to find admixture in Europeans deriving from sources akin to those groups currently constituting the migrant invasion of our home continent.  Thus, from the preprint, emphasis added:

Thus, rather than being an island sheltered from admixture and migration since the Neolithic, Sardinia, like almost all other regions in Europe has, been a site for major movement and mixtures of people.

You are all admixed!  Resistance is futile!  You will be assimilated!

Advice for Potential French Cuckolds

Frenchmen, free yourselves from feminist tyranny!

Respond to this by ordering this for you and your “offspring.”

There are of course possible problems here. If a Frenchman discovers cuckoldry through a 23andMe test, and acts upon it (demands a divorce, etc.), will he be subject to legal sanction? Or could he use those results to demand a court-ordered, legally sanctioned direct paternity test?  And how long would the 23andMe loophole exist once people start using it? Will France ban ancestry testing – or at least ban those tests that look at the chromosome level, instead of just at the SNP level?

Ultimately, the law needs to be overturned. What kind of madness is this that paternity testing is outlawed?  That’s the same wonderful Europe that bans free speech, so I suppose we cannot be surprised by any of it.

Methodological comment: True enough, the SNP-level tests that do not look at things from the chromosome level could in theory give some information about paternity – but what if the real biological father is the same ethny as the assumed legal “father” and would have similar ancestral percentages?  Then there is the matter of statistical error – you would really need to have the real father to be of a significantly different ethny than either mother or legal “father” for ancestry percentages to give useful data – and at that point, in some cases, the “eyeball test” might suffice to raise suspicion. Matching chromosome identity is obviously orders of magnitude better for paternity determination – although for ancestry testing such tests amplify errors due to parental population choice. But here we are talking about paternity, not ancestry, so 23andMe performs well.  

Absolutely correct.  What the fellow doesn’t quite get is that the flaws in the IQ argument is a feature and not a bug, from the HBD perspective. The HBDers want us to worship Asians and Jews and to subordinate White interests to that of Asians and Jews.  And, after all, it’s no coincidence that the “Ruv Squad” of Asiatrices sent out to influence WNs always mentions IQ. Get on your knees before the Altar of Asia!  You’ll find the HBDers already there.

The HBD future.  China in charge; scattered Whites are nothing but stepandfetchits.  Why do White HBDers support this?  Hey, maybe some “awkward squad” types will get sexual access to Asian “females.”  Do you have a better explanation?

We need a Far Right front against the HBD Yellow Supremacists.

A Purebred Son of Europe

As much an Aryan as the good and great Professor Hart, no doubt.

So, here we see a Jew named Letzter complaining about ancestry testing variability, even though, as we shall see, he is benefiting from parental privilege.

The thing I find interesting is the 23andMe results – he tests as 100% Ashkenazi Jewish, which the company labels as “100% European.”  A purebred son of Europe!  More of a purebred than Spencer and Johnson, eh?

Now, the alert reader is probably wondering – if the Ashkenazi genepool is ~ 50% (modern) Middle Eastern, how can someone who is 100% Ashkenazi be 100% European?

Well, let’s trace the “logic” of 23andMe here, and the “logic” of those that take such test results seriously while onanistically and breathlessly discussing the data on Amren comments threads.

First, we have a specific narrow ethnic group being well represented among the parental (or reference) samples used to determine genetic affiliation.

Second, a member of that group gets tested, and since he is essentially being compared to himself, he gets a result of 100% membership in that group (*).

Third, 23andMe decides to label that group as “European;” hence, the individual is “100% European”- obviously nonsense from a genetic-historical perspective.

This tells us two things about ancestry testing as offered by the various companies:

1. The results obtained are exquisitely sensitive to, and dependent upon, the available parental populations – the choices of the reference samples used.

2. The superficial interpretation of the results, particularly for normie and Nutzi nitwits, is going to be influenced by the choice of labels that a company decides to use for given ancestral components.

Considering the second point, 23andMe could have just as easily labelled Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry as “Middle Eastern,” or perhaps (and most accurately) given it its own category separate from both European and Middle Eastern.

More importantly, consider the first point.  A thought experiment – what if there were no Jewish parental population samples, and Ashkenazi Jews had to be analyzed using non-Jewish parental populations?  Then, instead of being “100% Ashkenazi Jewish,” such Jews would get results indicating they are a mix of Middle Eastern, Southern European, and Eastern European.

I trust that people with a triple digit IQ see the underlying problem here, and why parental privilege is such a big issue with these tests.  A person’s fundamental results, and the public perception of “purity,” is going to drastically differ dependent upon whether their narrow ethny (or ethnies) is included as a parental population or not. When Ashkenazi Jews are included as parentals, people of such ancestry will get results such as “100% Ashkenazi Jewish” (*) – labeled as “100% European” – but if the Ashkenazim were not included as a parental population, then those same people, with their same genomes, would now be interpreted as mixtures of various other groups.

Thus, the outcome of the measurement is fully dependent upon how the measurement is conducted – Bohr and Heisenberg could have fit in well with 23andMe and the other testing companies.

And idiots who take the companies’ reporting of results at face value, without considering all of these points, are just that – idiots.

*Yes, the first iteration of Letzter’s results had his Ashkenazi percent in the “low 90s.” That is still remarkably good and indicative of someone with parental privilege, a person deriving from a specific ethny well represented in the parental population base. Consider that for the somewhat broader British/Irish category, also well represented as parentals, Derbyshire got only ~ 70%, although the strong representation of other Northwestern European samples covered him very well at the regional level. If 23andMe had a well-represented specific English category, Derbyshire’s main ancestry percentage would have been higher.  

The bottom line is that “low 90s” for a single ethnic group is a great match, and 100% obviously cannot be improved upon.  Derbyshire’s results are not as good from the single group perspective, but from a regional/subracial basis, he’s also a parental privilege beneficiary – his entire ancestry is covered by groups represented as parentals and labeled in the “European” category.  

As an extremely important aside, I would strongly suspect that both Derbyshire as well as Letzter would have a very low “unassigned” percentage at the highest (90%) confidence level of the 23andMe test. Such a low percentage would indicate that there is excellent parental population coverage for the person’s entire ancestry. The difference between, Letzter and Derbyshire is that the good parental population coverage for Letzter is highly specific (Ashkenazi Jewish) while for Derbyshire is its more diffuse with broader groups (British/Irish and other closely related Northern and Western European ethnies). The relatively greater advantage for Letzter is indicative of both the obsession with Jewish genetics (and thus the availability of Ashkenazi parentals) and the high level of distinctiveness of the Ashkenazi genepool.  

Even apart from the issue of how the company decides to label ancestral components, the validity of 23andMe results at the lower confidence levels is, in my opinion and consistent with logic, going to be correlated to the amount of “unassigned”  ancestry at the highest confidence level.  Indeed, for those people with low  “unassigned” at 90% confidence, it is very likely that their 50% and 90% confidence results will be quite similar – an obvious impossibility for those people getting in the range of ~ 30-50% “unassigned”  at the 90% level.

Wops, Kikes, and Retards, Oh My!

Der retardation.

One of the distinguishing characteristics of the ignorant and retarded “movement” is that it gets fixated on particular memes and will repeat these endlessly, regardless of the facts. First, it was the delusion that Quentin Tarantino is a population geneticist and that True Romance is a peer-reviewed scientific publication.  More recently, I suppose that some Type Is breathlessly examined PCA plots of West Eurasian ancestry and noticed the relative proximity of Ashkenazi Jews to Southern European populations.

Der Movement:

ie: I don’t consider relatively unmixed Northern Germanic-Italians and Sicilians that are 90% racial Jew the same race.
Neither do I consider “Iberian” Irish and then the native Briton / “Scots-Welsh” stock that makes up part of the political Irish category the same sub race. Not to mention the purer Nordic lines that run in-between.

Der Science:

See here.

And here.

And also here.

Der Phenotype:

Der Duce.

Note to “movement” – Northern Italians are not “Germanic.” Sicilians are not “90% racial Jew.” Der Movement is 90% retarded. Even the commercially available ancestry tests that are enriched in Northern European parental populations and deficient in the Southern European equivalents are not showing any significant “German” ancestry in Northern Italians or “Jewish” ancestry in Sicilians or other Southern Italians.

Now, let’s consider the reality – as opposed to sweaty ethnic fetishism – carefully.  Europe follows the general paradigm “genes follow geography” as regards the clines observed in the PCA plots much beloved of Nutzis whose lack of scientific understanding rivals that of a race-denying SJWs. Southern Europe fits into this pattern. Thus, Southern Italians are, as expected, shifted more to the Near Eastern direction than are Northern Italians, consistent with deriving a bit more ancestry (mostly ancient) from that direction, as shown here.

Meanwhile, Ashkenazi Jews derive 40-65% of their ancestry from the modern Middle East, 35-60% from Southern Europe, and 15-25% from Eastern Europe (I think that 40-40-20 or 45-40-15 percentage splits seem most reasonable). Those obsessed with PCA plots will remember that the areas of Eastern Europe from which Jews are expected to derive ancestry (e.g., Russia and Poland) are significantly shifted in PCA (to the “northeast”) compared to Southern Europeans (note – these Jews may possibly also derive a small bit of ancestry from German sources as well).

So, what do we have with the Ashkenazim?  We have a group that is a mix of Southern European (SE) and modern Middle Eastern (ME), but with significant Eastern European (EE) admixture shifting them in a more “northeast” direction compared to what one would expect from a simple SE-ME mix. So, the net result is that the Ashkenazim are pulled in the direction of being relatively close to Southern Italians (including Sicilians), Maltese, and other Southern European groups – although, typically, the Jews are still, on average, shifted a bit away from the European groups. Given the tripartite admixture pattern of the Ashkenazim, and the distinctiveness of the Eastern European component, the end result is exactly what one would expect. Only a raving retard would interpret that as “Sicilians (or any other Southern Europeans) are 90% Jewish” (for which no evidence exists whatsoever).  Instead, it is that the EE admixture in the Jews pulls them close enough to the European direction as to make proximity to SEs possible.

And all of that is besides the point that the modern Jewish genepool, and the phenotypic characteristics derived from it, are the consequences of centuries of the endogamy and selective pressures that occured in that community after these admixture events. If you were to mix representatives of today’s SE, ME,and EE populations in proportions similar to the original Ashkenazi formulation, you would not magically get “racial Jews.”  

And do you really believe that Irish sub-types that you think are “different races” are going to significantly differ in genetic composition and racial affinity?  Are you really that stupid? 

One of the tragedies of the Internet is that it empowers individuals with the intelligence of roadkill to believe that they have something useful to contribute to human progress. I suggest that they go back to masturbating over Kemp’s science fiction novel March of the Titans, which is nothing more than a riff off of The Iron Dream.

Speaking of Jewish ancestry.

Sieg Heil!

Based Poland.

The analysis showed that 1.8% of Polish haplotypes may be of Ashkenazi origin…

For those of you who take ancestry testing companies seriously:

Mazel Tov!

“We don’t know who that Jewish person was, but we know it was on his mother’s German line.”

Also see Germany and Poland here.

So much winning!  Who is President again?  By the way, another grand victory for WN 2.0. Greg. Question – if Trump is impeached, indicted, convicted, and sent to prison, will the same speculation be appropriate for him?  He’s no “dandy,” to be sure, but his lard-inflated buttocks may be seen as womanly by other inmates, so who knows?

Reductio ad Absurdum

Identity and separation.

Aside from all my other criticisms of the testing companies, and the idea of using imprecise data with wide error bars for “cutoffs,” there is a more fundamental problem with the idea of any definitive defined cutoff, and one shared with phenotypic rankings such as McCulloch’s “Nordish scale.”

Any ranking cutoff – typically arbitrarily determined – that would result in “blood” members of the same monoracial family being “binned” into different polities is logically absurd and untenable and would almost certainly (and rightfully) be rejected by the population. Let’s indulge in a bit of reductio ad absurdum to illustrate the point.

Imagine a White family, an extended family wholly of European descent. Let’s make the example even starker – let us assume they are all of the same ethnic group.  But, alas, brothers Jim and Tom differ by 1% on some component of an (likely imprecise) ancestry test,  and this crosses a cutoff threshold, so Jim goes to one ethnostate and Tom to another – and these are full brothers of a monoracial and monoethnic family. The same principle applies if Jim has a “Nordish rankling” one point different from Tom. And what about the rest of the family?

Mom goes to one state, Dad to another. Siblings, parents and children, husbands and wives – all could be placed in different ethnostates based on arbitrary cutoffs on rankings derived from genetic ancestry testing or based on someone’s subjective analysis of physical appearance.

The (weak) counter-argument would be “Well, the same principle holds for racially mixed families – under any racialist plan, they would be separated, they would object, and if they wish, they can go to the outgroup ethnostate, away from us.”  

How can you compare the two sets of circumstances? They are qualitatively and quantitatively different.

On the one hand, you have Mary Sue Mudshark marrying Tyrone Carjacker; on the other hand, you have two full brothers of a monoethnic family who differ by percentage points on an ancestry test.  On the one hand, you have John Omegashire marrying a Chinatrix; on the other hand, you have someone deciding that two family members of the same ethny differ by one point on their “Nordish ranking” and so must be separated – or the “in” person has to decide to follow the “out” person and leave the ethnostate. It’s not the same thing at all. Racial identity is at the core of racialism, it is its entire meaning, and racial intermarriage abrogates that – but arbitrarily drawn cutoffs on fuzzy genetic testing or on subjective phenotypic rankings do NOT define racial identity.

You can make exceptions based on family relationships – but then that conflates to ethnic ancestry.  So, the only logical, consistent, and reasonable policy – and one that has the greatest chance of acceptance by sane people – is to “bin” people based on their ethnic ancestry and overall racial identity, and only use those other determinations for cases in which ethnic designation is unknown (e.g., adoption).

It is one thing to separate people based on their racial and ethnic identity; i.e., separating different races and ethnic groups from each other. It’s another thing entirely to separate members of the same race or even the same ethnic group from one another based on arbitrarily determined criteria. This latter situation leads to the absurdity of separating members of a monoracial or even monoethnic family from each other based on those criteria. Solving the problems inherent in the latter situation inevitably leads to the former situation – simply separating people based on determined identities based on historically established ethnic groups and the major racial groups to which those ethnic groups belong.

I imagine that some would then try to invoke a leftist argument here – “Ethnic and racial groups are also arbitrary,” but that is objectively false and goes against the entire meaning of racial activism (and ethnonationalism for those interested in that). There are historically determined ethnic groups that have a biological basis, and race can be similarly determined.  Some may argue that looking from a purely genetic and biological basis that there are some “fuzzy” boundaries for race and ethnicity.  But this is the nature of biological reality – and even non-biological reality as well (define color, define location, etc.).  But, even so, particularly at the level of continental-scale population groups (races), there is good clustering, and, even more importantly, racial and ethnic identifies have components in addition to the purely biological (although that is the most important), and all of these components together create distinctive ethnic and racial identities even if any one component in isolation is fuzzy.  Read more about all of that here.

This would seem to be common sense, but I’ve been arguing against the idea of arbitrary cutoffs that would cut across racial, ethnic (and family!) lines since the early 2000s, and it is still necessary to do so today.

Gene Wolfe is Dead and Other News

In der news.

Gene Wolfe is dead.  Also see this. 

Another Jack Vance phrase to describe female behavior – “erotic provocations.”  A female Vance character describing the behavior of her sister toward a male character – “…beguiling and provoking, teasing and tormenting.” One can look for clues in Vance’s background for his accurate portrayal of the female “contribution” to societal stability.

Vance and Wolfe are authors suitable for Type IIs. Tolkien, in contrast, is a Type I-style author.

Both Wolfe and Vance should be of interest to a “movement” allegedly interested in Faye’s “Archaeo-Futurism.” Men’s rights advocates and others on the Right can find much richness and nuance in the work of Wolfe and Vance.

Wolfe made a good point about cowardice vs. bravery.  According to Wolfe, the only real difference is that the coward fears the event before it happens, while the brave man feels fear after. So, the coward spends time dreading and obsessing about, say, combat, and becomes so fearful in advance that he shirks his responsibility when the time comes, while the brave man just acts without thinking about it, and, if he survives, becomes fearful about what he did after. Wolfe was a Korean War veteran, so he knew a thing or two about this subject.

A comment for Durocher from his own thread, emphasis added:

“Individual and ethnic amour-propre is a powerful motivator in the face of emotionally hurtful facts and hypotheses”

That was you and an Uraloid Anon Finn who don’t understand or lie about the ancient DNA. It’s also telling that you only respond with “interesting comment” to comments that stroke your ego. As if other facts are emotionally hurtful. That’s the problem people have with white nationalist liars like you and your cohort, not the actual science which has already destroyed many of your myths incidentally.

Btw, so others can check the dishonesty at play here:

“Western hunter gatherer natives that had a brain volume 1600 ccc , yamnaya or aryan around 1450ccc and anatolian farmers around 1300ccc”

Let’s accept those numbers. This means that the difference between WHG and Yamnaya was the same as between Yamnaya and Anatolian farmers. But guess which two populations contributed the most ancestry to all modern Europeans? But I suppose the Yamnayans didn’t “damagin permanently our genepool (sic)”.

And of course, our Uraloid supremacist has to come up with more ad-hoc reasoning to explain the Lithuanians, close to the biggest hunter-gatherer ancestry in Europe, or the Ukrainians: “If you exclude the slavs that were subjected to a different civilizational process”

Ah but the “elven Finns” weren’t subject to different civilizational process, they are “Fennoscandians” after all. It’s as if you arrive at the exact conclusion you already had in mind via a roundabout process innit? Even though Balts and Slavs have the most hunter-gatherer on average, they were subject to a “different civilizational process”. Meanwhile Western Europeans who have more Anatolian and less steppe and WHG on average got their civilizational prowess via some other ad-hoc process we’ll come up with on the spot. Maybe it’s “outbreeding” or one of the thousand ad-hoc explanations the HBDsphere has come up with huh?

Ron Unz:  Read this.

Roissy gets it right for once:

Ron Unz lies a lot in an article about the Alt-Right which he penned last year but reposted yesterday. I think the strawman-per-word ratio in his id-shaped rant is higher than anything I’ve read outside of a feminist tumblrrhea screed.

His main contention is that the “alt-right” are being deplatformed and de-personed because representatives (whoever they are) exaggerate the criminal threat of latino immigration, and the Soylicunt Valley nerdos who have been thrust into the role of Speech Police can’t tolerate the lies.

This is an utter inversion of the reality, which is that the Big Tech Poindexters can’t tolerate the truths which dissident outposts daily level against the corrupt Globohomo worldview and nation-dissolving agenda.

Never forget the “White nationalists” who are sell-outs to Unz, betraying their race for thirty pieces of silver.  We should be talking more about the Clueless Judas rather than the Yang Gang.

He doesn’t understand why Trump’s government persecutes militias guarding the border. Answer – Trump is a radical Far-Left SJW, seething with raw hatred toward White America.

Alt Right priapisms arise:

Chinese Nationalist Maiden
The problem for the West is that the USA might sooner or later be at war with the world’s prime Communist superpower, Red China. The West cannot afford to lose that war if it ever comes to pass, and neither can the West afford to lose the war over the control of the Western borders. Immigration needs to be brought back under the control of sound racial-demographic policy, and potential rivals such as Red China should not be made more powerful by Western companies..

That’s great.  Where do YOU live?  If it is in a Western country, please leave.  Or else you’re nothing but a vile hypocrite.

In Trump We Trust!  E Pluribus Awesome!

The testers:

…the DTC genetic testing company FamilyTreeDNA reached an agreement with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to grant the agency access to FamilyTreeDNA’s database of more than 1 million genetic records. At present, DTC genetic testing companies 23andMe and Ancestry still require court orders or valid search warrants for unsolicited third-party or law enforcement access to their genetic data records.

Listen to this.  I give Spencer credit for reaching out to the police and for considering legal action about that TV show clip.

The overall video had a good message, but there is a fundamental flaw there.  Unlike the White fear of Black mass violence, no one is really frightened of White nationalists, or any type of Whites whatsoever.  All the recent nonsense, the congressional hearing, the media stories, the statements – that’s all an excuse for censorship. They fear WN ideas (such as they are – that shows how memetically weak the Left really is), but not WNs themselves.  There is no real credible threat, outside of lone wolves and that’s nothing in the broader scheme of things.  The fear of the 1960s was of mass Black insurrection, riots and so forth. The only things White men today would riot for is more access to East Asian women and more Negro football on TV.

Yes, well, look Fat Don, since you’ve completely abandoned your White working class base, can you be surprised that others are targeting them?  Beware the Yang Gang!

The anti-vaxxers claim that the decrease in measles from, say, the 50’s to the 80s, was due to “better hygiene” and had nothing to do with vaccination.  What happened?  Did we start wallowing in filth?  Interesting, isn’t it, that – a coincidence, no doubt! – the spike in measles has occurred concomitant with the retards not vaccinating their children.

Sallis right again!  See title here.  See reality here.

Der Movement marches on:

I have for some time believed that it was Aryans who founded the Egyptian civilization after migrating from the Hyperborean center, due to the spirituality seeming to be quite Aryan. This also with the combination of some Pharaohs being depicted as blond-haired and blue-eyed and after opening tombs, they found that a Pharaoh even had red hair if I recall correctly. The question is: Is ancient Egyptian spirituality of an Aryan character, and if so, how could that be, if the Egyptians were of a non-Aryan stock?

Anyone who thinks that the findings of genetic archaeology will end “movement” fetishism is deluded.  When you are dealing with blind religious faith, facts are irrelevant.  If a careful genetic study proved without a shadow of a doubt that the Spartans were Nigerian, the Nutzis would crow; “Arthur Kemp was right!”