Category: TOO

Alt Right: Embracing Evil

It’s the Alt Wrong.

Let’s see:

Is involved in an inter-racial marriage, and supports miscegenation.

Is a despicable HBDer who worships at the feet of Jews and Asians.

An idiot who ignores the demographic facts on the ground and states that there is no existential threat to Whites.

A multiculturalist who supports a multi-racial “stew” society.

A lickspittle philosemite.

Who wants to associate with an Alt Right that includes execrable trash like Derbyshire?  Now, I’m sure that Alt Right defenders will state that the Alt Right cannot control who does or does not identify with this “movement.”  However, the AltRight.com faction had no problem disavowing the Alt Lite, so why can’t they do the same to Derbyshire and the rest of the Alt Wrong?  Is it because they agree with the Alt Wrong? With all the hate toward “boomers” coming from Alt Right Millennials, why do they grovel to a decrepit race-mixing boomer like Derbyshire?  And before I was “banned” from Counter-Currents, that site censored my criticism of Derbyshire’s comments about child porn – criticism that was nothing more than just citing Derbyshire’s own words on that subject!  So it is disingenuous of the Alt Right to just shrug and say that they have no control over Derbyshire and his identification with the Alt Right.

We can contrast all the financial support and meeting invitations and protection given to Derbyshire compared to how a good man like Robert Griffin is essentially ignored (except by TOO; I give credit to MacDonald for giving Griffin a forum).  Contrast Griffin’s wise words with Derbyshire’s self-interested pro-miscegenation rambling.

That VDARE is getting the lion’s share of “movement” donations, and that some of that goes to Derbyshire, is absolutely disgusted.  Not surprising tough.  Not surprising at all.


Let’s delve deeper into this; this is important.  


Let’s consider Derbyshire some more.  Not only is all written above true, and documented in his own writing, but let us not forget: for years, Derbyshire was openly hostile to White nationalism.  He wrote an insulting “hit piece” against Kevin MacDonald (it was when I wrote a riposte defending MacDonald that Derbyshire first came to my attention).  He openly mocked WN’s as “crazy” and “nutty” and “obsessed with racial purity.”  He publicly agreed with the assessment of Amren conference attendees as “latrine flies.”  He challenged critics of his marriage to come to his home so he could greet them “in the appropriate manner” (i.e., an elderly fist in their face, I suppose).  He sided with GNXP against WNs, and had one of the GNXPers at his home (welcomed, not attacked).  He praised the likes of the anti-WN and anti-Salter “Jayman.”  


But what happened when National Review kicked Derbyshire to the curb over his “the talk” article? Guess who it was who eagerly embraced Derbyshire and gave him new life – and money! – to spread his repellent views?  You guessed it – the “movement.”  The same “movement” Derbyshire attacked with relish for years now fell all over themselves to rescue him, including inviting him to address all those “latrine flies” he previously mocked in (digital) print. And, of course, he gets money and more money, supported via VDARE, etc.  And he is praised by “movement” commentators on blog threads.  This anti-WN race-mixer is propped up by the same WNs he’s always despised.


On the other hand, let’s look at how genuine WNs are treated.  Let’s consider this Sallis fellow – a WN for over twenty years, someone who made a major contribution in popularizing Salter’s EGI concept in the “movement” (and defending it against critics), among many other contributions.  Ted has essentially been “blacklisted” by Der Movement for the “crime” of questioning “movement” dogma and for criticizing “movement” leaders and for asserting that these “leaders” should be held accountable for their actions.  The anti-WN Derbyshire embraced; the WN Sallis is persona non grata.


Explanation?  I put forth two explanations, both of which are undoubtedly true.


First, many in Der Movement consider White nationalism as a money-making enterprise, as a way of earning a living (and living well).  They may well be genuine activists, sincere in their beliefs, but they want their money.  Derbyshire was never a threat to that – his attacks could easily be explained away by his Chinese wife and half-Chinese children.  Criticism coming from a twenty plus year veteran of WN is a whole other story, potentially far more damaging.  Let’s quarantine that “infection” before folks start getting the wrong ideas and the shekels stop pouring in.  Yes, there is also the issue of bruised egos among the thin-skinned, but I would think the money is more of a factor here.


But that first explanation does not explain the extent of the discrepancy; it does not explain the fervor with which Derbyshire been embraced, and the alacrity by which Sallis has been, in contrast, blacklisted.  Thus, second, I must invoke the “movement’s” affirmative action program.  Derbyshire – even with his Chinese family connections – is “one of the boys” so years of extreme anti-WN activism is breezily dismissed; Sallis, on the other hand, is an “outsider,” so decades of contributions are flushed down the memory hole before you can even say the words “latrine flies.”


The “rock stars” may not want to hear any of this, but it’s true.  And it’s a damning indictment of their poor character.

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Der Movement in Der News: 10/21/17

It’s…Der Movement.

Consider this comment from a prominent Alt Right leader:

Spencer in Friberg [sic] are in a pickle here, because anything negative they say about Jorjani immediately raises the question: “Then why did you associate with him?”

Just substitute Johnson and Brimelow for Spencer and Friberg, and substitute Hermansson for Jorjani, and the statement has the same validity.

I’m not taking sides here.  A pox on BOTH your houses.

If you wonder why the “movement” rank-and-file supports failed leadership and enables an affirmative action policy, then consider what that rank-and-file consists of. Der Movement marches on.

Outsourcing panhandling:

Greg asked me to pen this week’s fundraiser update to bring a fresh voice and perspective.

This is an interesting, useful, and truthful analysis.

But we should turn the tables here.  Revenge and domination – really, revenge, since as separatists we don’t want to dominate others – can be motivating impulses for our side as well.  I remember an incident from my analog activism days; an older activist was explaining to a group of us younger fellows why he was an activist.  I paraphrase from memory:

Save the White race?  That bunch of losers?  The White race, today, is nothing.  Nothing.  I’m interested in REVENGE – revenge against the Jews and the others who are responsible for making Whites – MY race – into the losers that they are.

At the time, I thought this fellow – who was an “extremist” even among us racial nationalists – was a nutcase; today, two decades later, I have to admit that fellow was basically right, and we more moderate Nutzis were wrong.  It seems I’m getting more extreme with age, which goes against the mainstream paradigm.

I understand that “negative” comments like revenge go against the “oh, we really love everyone” meme that “movement” leaders have been trying to peddle to the mainstream.  But, hey, maybe the “youth culture” of the Alt Right would be more amenable to harder-edged memes.  Sure, the hard edge is not for the masses, but for the rest of us?  Why not?  But a hard edge doesn’t mean stupid ‘acting out” as described in the Florida link above.  It means instead highly disciplined behavior to overturn the System.  Winning is the ultimate revenge,

Rosit on the Penman Hypothesis

Biohistorical speculations.

I really don’t have much to add to Rosit’s fine analysis, except to note that culture is a proximate interest, albeit the most important proximate interest, and one that – as I have written about extensively – affects our ultimate (genetic) interests.  But, any complete analysis of the decline of the West must put EGI first and foremost.  That would, as a matter of necessity, bring forth, directly, the race issue, the inability to deal with fully and honestly being, as Rosit suggests, a flaw in Penman’s hypothesis. Also, while epigenetic modifications are may in particular contexts be important, there are many, on both the Right and the Left, with an axe to grind against “genetic determinism” that overrate the importance of epigenetics with regards to the final phenotype.  

A reasonable analogy would be that the body is the hardware (computer), the genes are the software, and epigenetics may in part determine whether a particular software program is turned on or off.  That’s important, no doubt, but without the underlying software, there’s nothing to tun on or off, without the software, the hardware is merely a paperweight, and  – and this is crucial – not all computers are running the same software.  If one computer has a particularly powerful program and the other does not, all the “turning on or off” in the world won’t make up the difference.  Epigenetics has become an over-rated meme.

Penman’s grim prognosis is more or less correct, and having the pathetic “movement” as the major vehicle for preventing the racial-cultural disaster that is unfolding is part of the problem.

We need to start rebuilding now, before the collapse, and Der Movement is hardly capable of doing so.

Der Movement: 10/13/17

Der Movement roundup.

Fascinating how Der Movement is obsessed with Evola (I’m unimpressed with his work myself; as a scientific empiricist, I find Evola’s  writings the worst form of subjective gibbering nonsense), yet are, in general, filled with a loathing and contemptuous disdain for the people from whence Evola sprang.  It’s ironic, as I suspect that Evola’s “spiritual race” stupidity was a sort of “memetic allergic response” to those sorts of attitudes.

Buchanan is more right than he knows.  Man on white horse syndrome, style over substance, betrayal, talk of amnesty – a heir indeed!

It seems unlikely that Marantz will offer either a retraction or offer sufficiently credible supporting evidence for his assertion.  Further, as I have previously asserted, anyone who uses the term “White supremacist” to describe White nationalists is being intellectually dishonest. MacDonald is not the only one who has a potential justification for a libel suit – Enoch has as well, if he can demonstrate that his views are nationalist and not supremacist.

I also find Marantz’s reply to MacDonald fascinating. When leftists contact Far Right leaders, digging around for more information for future “hit pieces,” it’s almost as if they are writing off of the same script; they all sound exactly the same: cheerful insouciance, bright-eyed innocence, insults couched in ostensibly friendly language, and, always, “I really want to know you better, I’m so very much genuinely interested in hearing your side.”  Emphasis added:

Hi Prof. MacDonald, as you’ll see in the piece, I bought your book and have read much of it, and I don’t think I characterized it unfairly. I have also read your many replies to your critics, here (http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/tooby&pinker.htm …) and elsewhere, and I understand your rejoinders (that Pinker never finished the book, that Tooby takes too narrow a view of genetic variation and adaptation, etc.)—and yet I don’t think it’s unfair to say that CofC was roundly debunked by mainstream social scientists. First, I think it’s fair to say that Pinker debunked the book even though he didn’t finish reading it. Whether it’s fair to debunk a set of arguments without engaging with them fully is another matter, but it is what he did, as did many others, not limited to Tooby. Of course, as you know, on your site you tend to emphasize the positive reviews of your book (by Derbyshire, Gottfried, etc.) but there are, of course, many negative ones as well, many of which are by mainstream social scientists (Jefferson Singer, John Hartung, etc). Again, not all of these took the form of published papers, but they were “debunkings” nonetheless. Your work is obviously influential in certain circles, and I would love to talk to you about it sometime—I am genuinely interested in it, and I think you’d find me a fair interview—but it’s just a fact that the mainstream has largely rejected your arguments. Moreover, it’s a fact I’ve seen you acknowledge (and complain about) fairly often…

In any case, MacDonald’s work on the Jews has NOT been “debunked.”  It has merely been criticized.  Whether or not you agree or disagree with that criticism (I disagree) is one thing, it’s another to falsely claim that this criticism has been so definitive (and unanswerable) so as to constitute “debunking.”  This all shows what a sorry state media writing has fallen to – it’s all political propaganda, without substantive, objectively useful, content.

More Silk Road News

More anti-Silkism.

More over-sensitive Asians.  Colored is as colored does.

Realities of Jews and China and the Chinese threat to the White race (emphasis added):

…to demonstrate the vicious, dangerous and ruthless nature of today’s China and its determination to spare no means in order to realize its dream for global dominance and to bring the White western people to its collective knees in the process…while China is actively and vigorously employing the “subversive divide and conquer strategy” among other crafty means on its adversaries, those at the receiving end of the Chinese stratagems are actually not awakened enough to the scenario and certainly not repaying China with the same means, at least far inadequately. On the contrary, China has been consistently favored and shielded and subsidized by the Jew directed Western political and economic establishment on the both sides of the Atlantic Ocean.

Of course, the Silkers say we need to grovel to Chinese power, let the Chinese colonize White lands, and have Chinese girls with guns enforcing the borders of the West.  Madness, sheer madness.

Here’s another wonderfully productive and patriotic “British Asian” helping the UK be more “resilient,” don’t you know.   Cue the Silkers posting pictures of anime figures proudly standing by the Union Jack.  All hail dat dere British civic nationalism!  Just stay out of the doctor’s office…

The Message as Well as the Messenger

Being right is not enough.

This essay (the current one in TOO, not the original 1989 version) by McCulloch is fine as far as it goes.  The logic is good and the moral reasoning is sound.  One cannot easily criticize the fundamental argument from a theoretical standpoint.  The only real objection at the current time is empirical: moral arguments, on their own, have not worked to convince White people to pursue their racial interests.

It is not merely, as the essay asserts, that Whites do not care because they do not know, or that they do not know because they do not care.  One can find Whites who will reasonably agree to the premise that genocide against any group is wrong and, as a matter of course, that every group has – or should have – an inherent right of self-preservation.  Very well. But if you then – using facts, logic, and the language of moral persuasion – attempt to convince them of the reality of White genocide, and the moral imperative of resistance, you will typically encounter immediate and unalterable hostility. They will deny the reality of White genocide regardless of facts and logic; Whites have been conditioned to automatically reject and deny any appeal to racial self-interest.

And I use the word “automatically” advisedly.  No matter how much the person had previously asserted their agreement with anti-genocide and pro-preservationist premises, as soon as those premises are explicitly linked to specifically White interests, their minds close down and self-righteous hysteria and moral posturing – usually using the language of cant – ensues. One can make arguments such as those suggested by McCulloch in this essay, and yet all these people will hear is “blah-blah-blah-racist hate–blah-KKK-blah-Nazi-blah-blah-blah.”

I have no easy answers for overcoming this conditioning.  I would suggest that Hitler did state what is likely a fundamental truth with his assertion that the masses are decidedly feminine in behavior.  Thus, the messenger is as important – or perhaps more so – than the message.  Now, I do not like stating that.  As a rationalist and an empiricist, who judges arguments by their memetic content, the idea that the messenger should rise to an equal or greater level of importance as the message strikes me as one step along the road to idiocracy.  It is irrational.  But as Yockey tells us, life is irrational. In this sense, the existentialists (using the broadest sense of that word) are correct: when viewing reality from the human perspective, there are limits to the rational, limits to empiricism, limits to positivism; man is inherently irrational.

Therefore, what would be helpful is coupling a sound message with appealing messengers: attractive, confident, successful men, speaking from a position of strength, well-liked and respected, and resistant to the inevitable backlash, thuggery, and social pricing resulting from their pro-White position. One could imagine some popular celebrity – actor, athlete, or respected political figure or businessman – being better received than the typical pro-White activist.  Of course, such people, even if they were pro-White, would likely be resistant to expressing these opinions – they would fear an end to their careers, an end to their social standing and reputation (even, thus retired celebrities would be hesitant), and so only marginal dissident figures publicly express pro-White views, a situation that the masses perceive as a lack of legitimacy.

Context is important as well: the feminine masses want to see strength, virility, defiance, success – a “winner.”  The same message with the same messenger will be differently perceived and received dependent upon the context surrounding the message’s delivery. Thus, a messenger who stands his ground and is able to deliver the message without disruption, and who of course never backs down under pressure, will more effectively deliver the message than the exact same messenger, with the exact same message, who is shouted down, chased off-stage, punched in the face, is surrounded by a motley crew of cosplay-wanna-bes, has a urine-filed bottle bouncing off his head, has his rally cancelled, and, especially, backs down under stress. On a purely rational basis, the content of the message, its inherent truth, should be independent of these external factors; however, the irrational reality is that these external factors are as important, or more so, in convincing the masses, than the message itself. I wish it weren’t so, but it is what it is.

If this is true, then great care must be taken in choosing the right messengers and also choosing the optimal environment within which to deliver the message, to invoke perceptions of strength and success.  It also follows that recruiting celebrities and other public figures, and convincing them to speak out, successfully and without a damaging backlash, without backing down, would yield more benefit than the typical preaching-to-the choir that goes on online – the powerless and marginal engaged in memetic group onanism.

Again, how to actualize these suggestions is beyond the scope of this essay. I honestly do not have the answer to this puzzle.

Ragnarok II

More.

Read this. 

We demand legislation forbidding all US companies from adopting politically correct terms of service and employment. All private companies must be forced by law to respect freedom of speech and thought.

That is essential, but expect the System to fight that tooth-and-nail.  In the absence (yet) of overt “speech laws” due to the First Amendment, social pricing is the number one method to keep White folks in line.  Antifa violence and all the rest is nothing by comparison, a firecracker compared to a thermonuclear device.

Once people are free to express dissident opinions without fear of workplace punishment, the System’s biggest stick collapses, and they simply no longer have sufficient carrots for all the disaffected Whites.  So, yes, we need a “political opinion protection act.” 

The current administration could have been the best hope for that, but with Trump/Sessions trying to out-virtue signal the worst of the GOP cucks, it seems unlikely.

We should not give up though.  Extended First Amendment protections to the private sphere is probably the single most important idea of this post.  With that, the dam cracks and eventually collapses.

On Trump.

I feel like vomiting after watching this video.
The Alt-Right attempted to hold a peaceful rally in Charlottesville, VA. We had to get a federal court order to be able to exercise our First Amendment rights. After arriving in Lee Park, we were attacked by violent Antifa while the police stood down and watched. Gov. Terry McAuliffe declared a “state of emergency” and riot police pushed us into hordes of violent leftists who attacked dozens of people.
In response to this outrage, Donald Trump has condemned us, praised the Virginia State Police and said nothing about the actions of violent Antifa groups who will only be further emboldened to attack his supporters all over the country. While Donald Trump talks about restoring “law and order,” the reality of the matter is that police departments in leftwing cities are standing down and ceding the state’s monopoly on violence to lynch mobs. We saw this happen in Portland and Charlottesville the last two weekends.
Everything I have said was captured on video. For two years now, Donald Trump has said nothing while violent lynch mobs have attacked his supporters all over the country, not only in Charlottesville, but also in Washington, DC during the inauguration and Berkeley and many other places. A disabled man who supported Donald Trump was even kidnapped and tortured on Facebook Live in Chicago and he said nothing. President Trump talks about “equal rights,” but the truth of the matter is that White Americans in his country are routinely subjected to censorship, physical violence, employment discrimination, intimidation and massive civil rights violations while the Trump administration looks the other way. It does so because it is afraid of the power of the mainstream media.
The Alt-Right will stand with White Americans who are under siege in Trump’s America who have been deserted by their president. The Trump administration showed today that it is more interested in moving forward with its agenda of massive tax cuts for the wealthy than in defending our most basic constitutional rights. Sadly, President Trump’s chilling message will only stoke the flames of the violent Left and will strike fear into all those who dare to speak out against it who know they will inevitably be attacked now and portrayed as wicked racists by a vicious and hostile media cartel.
Donald Trump has given a green light to Antifa. He has sided with a group of people who attack us on sight and attempt to kill us and for that the Alt-Right can no longer support him. What Donald Trump has done today is an unforgivable betrayal of his supporters.

Devlin is a smart fellow and I always liked his writing, but at some point we need to stop making excuses for Trump.  Yes, his press conference wasn’t bad, but the fact is he and Sessions never cracked down on Antifa and they both denounced us all.