Category: TOO

Mr. Olympia: Form vs. Function

The 2019 Mr. Olympia. 

Negroes at the top, with a NEC Iranian in the mix.  But, definitely, for bodybuilding, a long-standing Negro domination.

Has anyone else noticed racial stratification in “muscle and fitness” sports?  When it comes to strength and power, Whites dominate.  Northern Europeans – particularly physically huge, big-boned, Borreby types – dominate Strongman.  Weightlifting and powerlifting are also heavily White; Bulgarians are heavily over-represented in weightlifting success, while a broad spectrum of European types (including wops) do well in powerlifting. On the other hand, particularly over the last few decades, bodybuilding has been heavily dominated by Negroes, both relatively pure Negroes as well as mulattoes. So, functionality of muscularity = White; superficial appearance of muscularity = Negro. This is analogous to the observation by HBDers that Negroes can sometimes appear to be cognitively and technically competent via extroversion and charismatic confidence, but in reality it is the quiet White beta male who is competent and the Negro most definitely is not.  Function vs. the appearance of function.

But then, there are people on the Far Right who prefer form over function, eh?  The prop is very esthetic, indeed!

This is, frankly, a bit ludicrous:

The five stewardesses on an Eastern Airlines flight I took to Miami in 1974 looked like they could all be finalists in the Miss America pageant. Even though we hit a large air pocket I still remember it as one of the most enjoyable flights I ever took. The opening staff of the Norwegian Pavilion at Epcot in May 1988 provided a similarly memorable enjoyable experience. When I took my first trip to Scandinavia the following summer the experience was frequently repeated. I remember a bus tour of Copenhagen with a group of mostly retired Americans getting their first impression of Scandinavia, and everyone remarking about how good looking and blond the people were. I assumed they had expected a high level of blondness, but what they actually saw obviously exceeded their expectations.

Promoting public policy based on personal anecdotes.  By golly, a flight I took to Miami 45 years ago hit a large air pocket, but those five (not four, not six, but five, count ‘em, five) stewardesses made the flight ever so enjoyable!

And, of course, the requisite obsession with Scandinavia.

I’d like to point out that this obsession was leveraged by HopeNotHate in orchestrating their Hermansson infiltration.  That is not conjecture, not a matter of debate, but established fact. Hermansson himself described in detail how his ancestry was a key factor – perhaps the key factor – in enabling his easy and complete access to the higher circles of “movement leadership,” and how Steadman’s well-known fetishes in this regard made him a viable target.

Racial esthetics are important, no doubt. But everything needs to be put in their proper place, and individuals should not project their particular preferences into an overwhelming obsession to define the totality of racial nationalism.

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9/15/19

In der news.

Someone knows Trump:

Exile

Absolutely. Seeing a PoC pulling (((tricks))) hits grugs in their monkey-brain. AOC even triggers big-brain Tucker. Trump’s Orange Soma by comparison. His rhetoric lulls them. I’m seriously worried about major (((shenanigans))) on guns and immigration if Trump gets a lame-duck second term. He’s already punch-drunk on the goofy idea that Princess-Abu-Titjob will be THOTUS someday and God only knows what “muh legacy” bullshit he’ll try for with nothing left to lose.

Good video by Taylor.

This podcast by Johnson and Morgan is reasonably good.

Johnson makes a good point that Jews clearly feel more comfortable living among Muslims than they do among European-derived peoples (Whites).

But then:

Greg Johnson

Posted September 14, 2019 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

Covington was part of the Old Right. I have said all I want to say about him. The New Right has a very different approach to politics. Commemorating his life would excite the wrong sort of people. I have been consciously trying to deemphasize Old Right figures at Counter-Currents.

Let’s dissect:

Greg Johnson

Posted September 14, 2019 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

Covington was part of the Old Right.

In other words, he was a serious White nationalist (whatever his faults…I’m not taking sides in the Covington/NA-Pierce-Williams feud).

I have said all I want to say about him. 

If only the same would apply to Evola, Devi, Guenon, Trump, etc.

The New Right has a very different approach to politics. 

Sure!  Pepe, Kek, Unite the Right, the Night of the Wrong Wives, the Pilleater Chronicles, TRS follies, Trump worship, Hermansson and Lewis, being wrong about virtually everything…a very different approach, indeed!

Commemorating his life would excite the wrong sort of people.

One can say the same about running Ash Donaldson articles.

 I have been consciously trying to deemphasize Old Right figures at Counter-Currents.

Instead, we’ll seen have an in-depth metapolitical analysis of Pepe. The only question – written by Mudshark Annie’s breakfast butler Costello or gun-toting, Slavic muscleman Jeelvy?

Spencer:

How many Boomers will write checks to this girl’s non-profit with notes attached that read:

 “If Millennials adopt socialism, they could destroy Medicare!”

Rewritten:

How many Boomers will write checks to Strom’s National Alliance with notes attached that read:

 “If Millennials adopt Spencer, they could destroy White nationalism!”

Anyone else notice how McCulloch is being featured at TOO frequently recently?

Anyone who doubts the predictions and analyses of Sallis does so at their peril.  I openly predicted a growing alliance between the HBD/race realist crowd and the Nordicists. Ironically for all involved, the wire-pullers behind the scenes are those that would, in their “genetic and cultural locus,” resemble Lukacs.  After all, Unz and Hart are “good Jews,” aren’t they guys…or should I say goys?

I’m also curious whether the “esthetic prop” includes things like this.

Not so much this, I think.

The Importance of EGI

Race, immigration, and the demographic future.

Read this about the real underlying issues of the immigration debate.

A focus on EGI is absolutely essential in evaluating any debates on, e.g., immigration.  We require a more thorough – and ongoing – analysis of this. We need to effectively ground our understanding of key issues, and our political activism, on a bedrock foundation of ethnic genetic interests and the pursuit of group adaptive fitness. While some proximate interests – for example, actualizing a High Culture – are of fundamental importance, we must always realize that ultimate interests – genetic interests – are paramount. If genetic interests, ultimate interests, must be given precedence over the most important of proximate interests, then this shows us how much more precedence they must be given over less important, less urgent, less fundamental proximate interests.  A further point – genetic interests and the most fundamental proximate interests are typically in accord; thus, actualizing a High Culture is not only compatible with the EGI-conserving objective of racial preservation and advancement, it can be viewed as being actually dependent on it (and, to a lesser extent, vice versa). On the other hand, one can think of many other proximate interests – for example, an emphasis on “economic growth” – that can be incompatible, in many contexts, to the ultimate interest of genetic continuity.

And even though culture and civilization are the most important proximate interests and in many ways overlapping ultimate concerns, they are not themselves ultimate concerns, so one should even be skeptical of comments such as those as Trump bemoaning immigration into Europe because of its pernicious effects on “culture.”  Now, Trump was right, and to be fair, we should appreciate that he went that far – crossing a line other American leaders feared to even approach or, worse, even acknowledge – but it is not enough.  The ultimate issue is demographic replacement, and we await the American leader “alpha” enough to cross that, final, line.  After all, we can always hear ‘spin” about how alien invaders “assimilate into the culture,” but EGI is a “firewall” that prevents discussion from veering too far away from ultimate concerns.

But for the firewall to be an effective one must accept that one’s worldview has a grounding in EGI, and one must have a serious understanding of the concept. I do not advocate the crazed stupidity of Type Is who warp the concept and use “EGI” to explain everything from bad weather to the price of milk; idiots who chant “EGI” as a talisman without even understanding what it is about. Instead, I simply say that consideration of EGI must be behind memes and schemes, behind goals and objectives, and even when proposing grand moral orders, sweeping vistas of a White future, one must always remember that EGI must be at least minimally considered in the background.  All schemes, agendas, and objectives must have a pro-EGI foundation upon which the grand structures can be built. This does not mean that EGI is itself the grand structure – I argue against that here – but it has to be the foundation, the firewall, the immutable prerequisite that prevents you from drifting in the direction of maladaptive ideas.

I note the “movement” – despite a small faction that, as noted above, chants “EGI” at every opportunity (typically superfluously) – also doesn’t properly incorporate EGI into its calculations (it if has “calculations” at all, rather than just endlessly regurgitating the same old tired memes, the same old fossilized dogma).

The implications of EGI cannot be responsibly evaded.  We know that the Left and the Mainstream Right, evil and stupid to the core, respectively, are bereft of responsibility to humanity – higher humanity – but the Far Right, in theory, should possess the sense of responsibility to do what is right.  And they cannot do this without having a solid foundation of EGI and its myriad consequences when considering the actualization of ideals into policies.  Only Type II activists are truly capable of doing this.

9/9/19 News

More of the same.

A man of genuine greatness!  That genuine greatness on display again!  Keep on sending in those “D’Nations” to the Quota Queens, some of whom are still lying about Trump.

The endgame for the Quota Queens.

Sallis’ Law in action again:

Rob Bottom
Posted September 7, 2019 at 8:24 pm | Permalink
I don’t know if it’s joking or not, but there are a lot of people who say that Meds aren’t white. There are certainly differences between the Northern Europeans and those nations that have long histories of Arab invasion, for example.

Once again – EGI Notes openly calls for all White ethnics to abandon Der Movement.  Withdraw your support so that its inevitable collapse comes that much faster.

Read this.  A good review of a good book, but my predictions differ.  I see it more likely that there is a continued slow decline into demographic doom, with outbreaks of real, widespread violence occurring after Whites are in minority status. In any case, I predict defeat, despair, and destruction.  Regardless of the specifics, a people that has let things reach the point they have reached today, without even the mild response of electing Mainstreaming Marine, do not exhibit the stuff to fight, much less win, any sort of “racial civil war.”  

Anti-Race, Greg Johnson, Sallis’ Law, and Other News

In der news.

See this to refute leftist lies..  If only Der Movement didn’t have a cordone sanitaire around EGI Notes, it could answer these leftist lies more effectively.

Genetic variation and genetic distance are not the same thing. Anyone claiming that Nigerians are more similar to Scots than they are to other Africans is scientifically illiterate. Any grouping of people will demonstrate more variation within than between – even mixed groups of Whites and Blacks together. That’s meaningless from the perspective of genetic kinship.  Also see Edwards’ “Lewontin’s Fallacy” paper.  Using science and logic is going to be more effective than the equivalent of stammering “but, but, but, it can’t be true, it makes no sense.”  By the way, the fact that population geneticists, who must know better, stay silent when leftist lies are uttered completely supports my contention that those academics are highly politicized on the Left.

We need to examine this quite remarkable comment by Greg Johnson:

Greg Johnson

Posted August 11, 2019 at 11:01 am | Permalink

Trump is toast in 2020 no matter what.

He let demographic replacement and voter fraud go unchecked.

He is now turning against the first and second Amendment rights of his base.

He will lose in a landslide.

By the time the next president comes in, there will be millions of new invaders inside our borders.

Then the race war will kick off in the summer of 2021.

White Nationalists need to ask ourselves if we are going to be among the people who fought against white dispossession who who declared ourselves accelerationists to own Trump and the GOP.

Which course makes it more likely we will be able to lead a genuine revolutionary National Populist movement?

Let’s dissect that:

Trump is toast in 2020 no matter what.

Given that I was wrong in 2016, I’m not making predictions about the 2020 election, at least not so early in the process.  Johnson may of course end up being correct in his prediction; if I was forced to bet money on the election outcome today, I would go with a Trump loss.  But the idea that you can say in August 2019 that “Trump is toast in 2020 no matter what” seems to me to be incredibly foolish.  “No matter what.”  Really? If Trump ends up winning (doubtful of course) then this comment by Johnson will go down the memory hole, and Counter-Currents would pretend it never happened.

He let demographic replacement and voter fraud go unchecked.

I thought he is sincere and a man of genuine greatness?  Gee, what kind of “blackmail” material does Johnson suspect the System has on the MAGA Man?

He is now turning against the first and second Amendment rights of his base.

Isn’t it more likely the man is, and always was, an unprincipled fraud?

He will lose in a landslide.

Maybe he will.  But it is indicative of a certain mindset of “movement leaders” that this is stated so boldly, so absolutely, so confidently, as if there isn’t the slightest possibility of an alternative outcome. Is this the type of prudent leadership a dissident movement requires?

By the time the next president comes in, there will be millions of new invaders inside our borders.

Perhaps.

Then the race war will kick off in the summer of 2021.

This is one of the most outrageous and unhinged comments ever made by Johnson.  Of course, in theory, anything is possible.  But is it likely? Do you really believe there is going to be open race war in America within two years?  Think about it. Would you be so confident as to state it as a foregone conclusion, rather than as a (somewhat unlikely) possibility? Even worse, given everything going on today, given the attempts to link White nationalism with “terrorism” and violence, and given the efforts of WNs to argue against that connection, it is the height of absolute foolishness for a “movement leader” to start talking about “the race war” that will “kick off in the summer of 2021.”  If some Nutzi shoots something up in the summer of 2021, don’t you think that quotes like this will be remembered by the System? Can we have leaders who are a bit more prudent and reserved in their proclamations?  

White Nationalists need to ask ourselves if we are going to be among the people who fought against white dispossession who who declared ourselves accelerationists to own Trump and the GOP.

As if the general public is going to know anything other than what the mass media tell them.

Which course makes it more likely we will be able to lead a genuine revolutionary National Populist movement?

These guys can’t even hold a private meeting without it being infiltrated or hold a rally without it disintegrating into chaos and they get chased of college campuses and are physically assaulted in the streets with impunity, they are wrong about almost everything they say, and they have zero prudence in their statements and behavior, but they are going to be leading “a genuine revolutionary National Populist movement?”

Delusion.

My biggest issue with “movement leaders” is their poor judgment, combined with a lack of accountability for the consequences of that poor judgment. I have no confidence in these people. They say or write things without any consideration of the implications, they plan rallies and events without consideration of possibilities and contingencies, they organize private meetings that are easily infiltrated and/or become beset by drug use or sexual harassment, they misjudge public figures (e.g., Trump) and current events, they make bold proclamations and overly confident predictions without consideration of alternative possibilities – there is a lack of prudence, a lack of depth, a lack of strategic planning, a lack of foresight.

Sallis’ Law needs to be extended – it’s not only about “admixture” but about ridicule, overall fetishism, etc.  Supporting Sallis’ Law, and supporting my contention that Der Movement has nothing to offer White ethnics, I offer a few samples from comments threads.

From an Amren article about Salvini and Gere:

What are the three shortest books in history? The book of German humor, the book of Italian war heroes, and the book of the wit and wisdom of the Polish people! Hey, hear the one about the German general and the Italian general? The German general before a battle says to his aid: Bring me my red jacket. The Italian general asks him (You have to do this in a phony Italian accent, btw), “whya doa you a needa red jacket?” The German general replies “because if I am shot, my men will not see the blood and will not lose hope.” Upon hearing this, the Italian general turns to his aid, “Aid, bringa me mya brown pants!” LOL.

Do you know why Italy is shaped like a boot?

Why?

U couldnt get all that sh*t into a sneaker.

You’d think ethnic jokes about Gere would be more appropriate there, but I guess not.

From a Counter-Currents article on The Sopranos:

….the overweening defensiveness about the Sopranos being “Italian” is unnecessary. It’s about a Mafia family, so they’re going to be Sicilian or Calabrese, most likely; goes without saying. One would not discuss a series about a Welsh coalmining family and go off on a pleading tangent about how it’s okay if they’re “British.” God is in the details.

Yes, God is in the details.  How about the details of Gere’s SJW fanaticism or Johnson’s chronic poor judgment?

Trump’s DOJ on the march again.  A man of genuine greatness!

Morgan and Other News

“Movement” stupidity.

The Type Is are doing their best to destroy whatever little is left of a credible racialist “movement” in America.

But, hey, don’t listen to the criticisms of this blog.  Keep on supporting Type I retardation, sweaty fetishism, fossilized dogma, and send those “D’Nations” to “leaders” for their European travels, gym memberships, movie nights out, and comfy lawn chairs for their homes in blue state suburbs.  Money well spent!

The fundamentally dishonest John Morgan:

I realize this is beside your main point, but legally speaking I am a Hungarian, as my mother’s ancestors, although Transylvania Saxons (ethnic Germans), were citizens of the Hungarian Kingdom for 800 years, and moreover my mother’s parents were born in Transylvania before the Trianon Treaty, which ceded Transylvania to Romania from Hungary, so under the law I am just as Hungarian as anyone else, even if I’m not ethnically Magyar. If I tell most Hungarians I am Transylvania Saxon, they just say, “That’s Hungarian.”

Yeah, that’s great.  Uh…you are of Anglo-Germanic ancestry, and are living in a country whose majority is ethnic Hungarian (that the origins of that ethny are “mixed” is irrelevant to the present existence of their ethnic identity).  “Legally speaking” you are Hungarian!  Great!  Legally speaking a ghetto Negro is an “American.”  And their ancestors were here for centuries. Legally speaking a Turk in Berlin is “German.” And you can find White Americans who will look at a Negro and say – “That’s American.” What nonsense.  And even if you want to call Morgan’s maternal line “Hungarian,” what about the paternal line? Or are “halfsies” now acceptable to ethnonationalists?  Something to debate about snug in your hobbit holes.

The reality: Morgan is an ethnonationalist living in someone else’s country – “legally” or not.  A hypocrite.

And as regards Morgan’s contention that Hungarians are “undeniably” of “Central Asian origin” – at most perhaps a few percentage points of their ancestry is such. For the most part, they are not that much different from their Central European neighbors.

I have no idea what percentage of the American radical Right has pan-Europeanist sentiments…

Superficially and dishonestly, some reasonable fraction. Honestly and authentically, maybe 1% – or less.

TOO Retard:

 <Cam OT>, <Andrew>, and Richard McCulloch all take me to task for excluding indigenous (ethnic) Russians from the White race.  This is not a major issue for me, and I have no serious objection to including them.  

I’m sure they’re relieved.  After all, it’s up to you to decide on the racial provenance of Russians.

My primary rational for excluding them was that, even though they may have some Scandinavian blood…

The only important thing of course. But not enough such blood to qualify for automatic passing of “extreme vetting.”

…that Russians are not truly Europeans…

Stating that makes it true.  “Movement” solipsism in action.

…and have not contributed to human intellectual and cultural life to the extent that Europeans have.  

We can name any number of groups that this author would worship that have contributed less than Russians have.

Also, there is so much racial admixture there that I wonder how White they truly are—a point nicely made by <PJ Dooner> later in the comment chain.  

A comment made by some random fetishist is obviously solid evidence.

This is certainly an area ripe for more research and study.

Crack open your copy of March of the Titans!

But if we want to include 110 million ethnic Russians, along with some 35 million Ukrainians and around 8 million Byelorussians, I have no major objection.  This, though, makes the ‘genocide’ theme even less tenable, because there are now some 950 million Whites globally.  Do <Cam OT>, Andrew, and Richard really want to go there?

Definitely evidence of the non-“Whiteness” of Russians right there!

More Movement Stupidity and Hypocrisy

In der news.

My riposte to this is as follows:

Press release!  Author of EGI Notes blames Greg Johnson (and other failed “movement leaders”) for El Paso shooting.

This is correct, but doesn’t go far enough. How about denouncing all the hysterical cheerleaders for Trump on the Alt Right?  The last chance for White America!  MAGA! Pepe! Kek!

More stupidity.  ‘White genes.”  Russians are “not White.”  Nitpicking over “genocide.” Completely unrealistic proposals.  Is it any wonder the mentally weak throw their hands up in despair and go shoot up something?  Der Movement is a pathetic embarrassing failure.

And then we have:

PJ Dooner says:
August 3, 2019 at 11:50 am
He might believe that Russia is mongrelized beyond repair: two of the policies that the jews implemented when they took over Russia a hundred years ago was to relocate huge numbers of “Russians” from more eastern areas into purely Slavic areas and outright mass murder of pure Slavs as in in Ukraine and of the ethnic Germans in the Volga area-the result is an enormous mixed-race population of Eurasian-Russians today–take a close look at the “Russians” you see on TV or the net, they almost all look mixed-race like Putin’s first wife, for example.

Unlike David Bromstad and family, or Bjork, who don’t look even the slightest Eurasian, right?  Mote and beam.  Look in your own eye, fetishists.

Uh-huh.  Note the discussion of alien civilizations at around the 50 minute mark.  My riposte is this.  That’s from 2018…the same year as the Wit’s End book.  Let’s see if the HBDers claim to have been the only ones to have invented this hypothesis.  A form of affirmative action I suppose; just like Blacks “invented” everything, the Quota Queens can do the same.

Not bad, not bad…figuring out in 2019 what I was telling all of you in 2016, before the election.

Other folks in 2016. Hail Trump!  MAGA!  Pepe!  Kek!

Them in 2019.

Looking at online discussion about the upcoming paper on Ancient Roman genetics, including mention of a “leaked PCA,” we see that Der Movement Strikes Back, desperately trying to save the dogma by wild interpretations.  You know, whether or not the Etruscans and Iron Age Italics clustered with Spaniards and whether later-age Romans clustered with South Italians (Genocide!  Levantine admixture!  Genocide!), I’ve yet to see anyone claim that any of these samples, from any era, cluster with Northern Europe. I thought the original ancients were all Nordic?  If the essential cline of Ancient Rome extends through the entire North Mediterranean basin – otherwise known as Southern Europe – that’s a refutation of the main points of “movement” dogma. That a cosmopolitan metropolis like Ancient Rome saw some population shifts as the capital of an empire is not surprising.  That’s not the point. The point is the official “movement” dogma that the original Romans were Dolph Lundgren in a toga, and there’s no evidence of that.  If there was a shift from Franco to Evola over time, that’s hardly SPQR Leif Erikson. I suppose that Der Movement will continue to retcon their dogma. Don’t let them do it. That’s putting aside the irrelevance of all of this to EGI-based biopolitics in 2019 – that’s 2019 AD, not 2019 BC.  But, Der Movement is going to be Der Movement and there’s no getting around it.