Category: Western Destiny

Nietzsche, Napoleon, and the Overman

Western Destiny essay.

An important Western Destiny essay can be read at this link.  That essay analyzes real scholarship on Napoleon and Nietzsche’s views on Napoleon, which contrasts to the “movement” nonsense previously discussed here.

Valhalla Awaits

And other odds and ends.

However, my theory is based on the proposal that Western uniqueness derives ultimately from unique ancestral environments in northwestern Europe, with emphasis on a north-south genetic cline in the relative genetic contributions of northern hunter gatherers, Indo-Europeans, and Early Farmers from the Middle East.

So, essentially, the “West” is “northwestern Europe.” The interesting thing is how the reality of Der Movement is converging on my parody of it. Long time readers of EGI Notes are aware of my description of Der Movement as believing that Europe is only that which is to the north of Vienna and the West of Berlin, and now, essentially, the HBD-Nordicists are promoting “theories” that essentially say in actuality (substituting “the West” for “Europe”) what I have been writing in mocking ridicule. Basically, parodying Der Movement is becoming ever more difficult, because “movement” reality converges upon, and then surpasses, what one says in sarcasm.

The aforementioned “theory” works only if you believe that areas of Europe outside of the northwest, including areas enriched in Neolithic farmer ancestry, are not part of the West, and that the peoples deriving from those areas are not genetically constituted for traits defining “Westerness.”  .

I don’t know of any serious scholar of the West (*) who believes that.  And Yockey, whose knowledge and understanding of Western history and culture dwarfs that of various “movement” “rock stars” certainly didn’t believe it.

This is just warmed over Kempism, “just so” stories promoting intra-European division and doing nothing but supporting my contention that so-called “White ethnics” have no place in Der Movement, Inc. and instead should look to the formation of a New Movement based on different principles. 

But I suppose that after the grand failure of the Alt Right – the Alt Right being supported by all the august “movement” personages at the same time I was presciently denouncing it – squandering the world historical opportunity of 2016, there is an impetus to devise new intellectual defenses of the “movement’s” ethnic affirmative action program. Only Pure Genetic Westerners need apply!  Spencer and Johnson to the vanguard, oh glorious leaders, grant us final victory!  Valhalla awaits!

The ultimate outcome of HBD – enslaving Whites thus to inscrutable Chinamen..

The Arctic Alliance marches on.

For the benefit of new readers, I want to once again clarify my position on HBD. When I write that HBD is a political movement aimed at subjugating Whites to Jews and Asians, I do NOT mean that all, or most, or even many, HBDers actually have that as their explicit agenda.  I do NOT mean that most HBDers cackle with delight as they plan the downfall of the White race, and I do NOT mean that masses of HBDers get together to plan the subjugation of Whites. Most White HBDers are no doubt sincere in their beliefs; they are useful idiots being manipulated by the relatively small number of HBDers who do actually have an anti-White agenda of replacing kinship-based racialism with aracial cognitive elitism, setting up a racial hierarchy with Jews and Asians on top, and promoting Jeursasian mongrelization.  


Thus, following the tenets of HBD to their logical conclusions will inexorably lead to the aforementioned subjugation of Whites to Jews and Asians, even though most (White) HBDers would deny that they desire such an outcome and would scoff at the possibility. However, the wire-pullers behind the scenes know very well how to make the HBD poison more palatable to the dupes, how to add sugar to the poison to make it go down more effectively. If HBD rhetoric was just Jewish and Asian supremacism, it would not have such a following.  But they add to the mix obvious truths about Negroes that add credibility to the dogma, and then they titillate the more sweaty of the ethnic fetishists by putting Afrowops at the bottom of the racial hierarchy, and by asserting that while Med swarthoids are cringing stupid subhumans, Nords are really smart – albeit not as smart as Jews and Asians. And Nords, and only Nords, are the real Westerners! Just ignore the leering Levantines and grinning Orientals behind the curtain. Move on, move on, there’s nothing to see there!  And the useful idiots eat it all up.  With gusto.


Do not misunderstand me. I am not denying important differences between Europeans, and I have discussed such differences here, including cognitive and behavioral differences – and some of those differences may be linked to national variation in culture and achievement. Where I differ is the idea that a particular set of traits associated with one subsection of Europeans is what defines “the West.”  Instead, I believe “the West” is best defined as an emergent property of the traits and national histories of all the types of (Western) Europeans, North and South, together. The complexity and richness of the West and its civilization is, I believe, also due the synergy of these various traits and histories. All of these components are important and cannot be isolated; the West is not just a derivation of one set of the European peoples. The fact that the “theory” in question is merely a variation of the same Guntherite Kempism we’ve all seen before suggests that it is, ultimately, an intellectual defense for the same old tired “movement” dogma.


Further, the idea that varying percentages of the same types of ancestral stocks can be so starkly genetically deterministic so as to allow for a sharp line to be drawn with respect to behavioral-cultural traits is an extreme stretch. If you are willing to go that far, then you would have to consider all of the implications. Is smug, self-righteous, destructive sick SJWism also so biologically deterministic, with such sharp territorial delineations?  Is hyper-collectivist conformism of belief in that SJWism equally so genetically and biologically deterministic?


And, I must say, accusations of “ethnic hurt feelings” are transparent projection. Long time readers of EGI Notes have read some extremely harsh criticisms here of swarthoids and other “White ethnics,” up to and including calling for a genetic culling of the worst 10-20% of the population (that could be done via sterilization instead of other measures). This blog has also praised the English and Germans as being the top of the European crop in terms of cultural, technical, scientific, humanistic intellectual, etc. achievements over the last few centuries; in addition, I’ve always been extremely impressed by the per capita technical achievements of the Scots. Durocher was alerted to North vs. South European differences in brain structure from this blog. I write what I perceive as the truth about any and all groups, regardless of “ethnic feelings” – hurt or otherwise.  In contrast, when is the last time you read or heard any of the Nord-fetishists say anything critical about Northwest Europeans – other than to assert that they are just too noble and altruistic and disinterested for their own good, “criticism” that is actually thinly veiled praise?  And those guys certainly have nothing good to say, ever, about swarthoids or hunkies. They are the ones whose “ethnic feelings” preclude them from ever legitimately criticizing their own group or praising other types of Europeans. Pot, meet kettle.

Speaking of HBD – I don’t know, maybe this reflects neurotic behavior?  Or just being a juvenile jackass?  Actually I don’t mind HBDers acting the buffoon.  It fits.  Like a glove.

Watch this.   That is the future of America.  And if you think that’s just an isolated case, you are in complete delusional denial. That’s the norm in American academia today, not the exception. Enjoy! And while the guy who made the video may be a milquetoast civic nationalist type, we should thank him for bringing this to our attention, and speaking out in class against the madness.


By the way, I just noticed that Greg Johnson describes himself thus:

My Facebook account has been terminated because I am a white advocate.

Not White nationalist, but “white advocate.” The ethnonationalist-HBD-Nordicist alliance continues to take shape.  “White advocate”- please.

Embracing Defectives

“Scumbag behavior.”

This is the Alt Right.  Jeelvy:

For example, my current employment makes zero to negative economic sense. Despite (or maybe because) of my intellect, I am a bad worker. I am often late for work, and when I do arrive, I arrive with the insomniac’s world-contemptuous scowl overlaid against a stubbled jowl. I resolve office politics with threats of violence, and I’ve been known to disappear for hours on end, only to return in a state of mild inebriation. I write monograph-length critiques of TV shows from ten years ago during office hours. What value I do produce is mercilessly exploited, and my successes are due more to innate charisma and an ability to charm people into forgiving my worst offenses rather than effort or passion. You have to be either crazy or my mother to hire me – in fact, the latter is my employer.

This is the sort of person Greg Johnson has writing for him now.  We’re really on target for community building with such high quality and personable individuals like Jeelvy!  A response:

Voryn Illidari
Posted October 24, 2019 at 8:14 am | Permalink
It’s hard to take seriously anything you write when in the first half of the article you proudly admit that you are a drain on your own family’s business and that you threaten fellow employees, presumably your own family members, with threats of violence. It doesn’t matter how you intellectualize this or what kind of “traditionalist” or otherwise antimodern argument you cobble together to justify it. This is fucking scumbag behavior and you owe your mother an apology and probably also a resignation. I’m sure you’ll call any prescription for responsible behavior a “Boomer” point of view, but it’s the truth (I’m a millennial, btw.)

There are two possibilities here. Either Jeelvy is being honest about his behavior in which case he’s simply a terrible human being who would likely act similarly to fellow activists, or he’ll claim to be “joking” in typical Alt Right Beavis-and-Butthead fashion – just childish “tough guy” posturing.  In either case, for a blog like Counter-Currents with pretensions of being a highbrow intellectual effort, Jeelvy’s writing is an embarrassment.

The main problem is not Jeelvy himself; after all, Alt Right juvenile jackasses are a dime-a-dozen.  The problem is Johnson, who runs such absolutely nonsensical childish stupidity on his blog. I should probably just stand back with a sense of schadenfreude and let Counter-Currents implode, but this is just too much.

One riposte would be to point out examples of juvenile writing and joking at EGI Notes.  The problem there is that I’ve made clear, many times, that the purpose of such writing is to ridicule and mock the stupidity of Der Movement (Jeelvy being a perfect example); the writing in this case is intentional parody of the likes of Jeelvy, Durocher, the entire Alt Right, the fetishists, all of it. Further, EGI Notes has always been a middlebrow blog (Richard Lynn’s Pseudoscience being lowbrow); Western Destiny is my highbrow blog. Counter-Currents itself is supposed to be highbrow.  Thus, the comparison fails.

And the purpose of these critical posts?  It is important to demonstrate to the rank-and-file that Der Movement is intellectually, morally, and ethically bankrupt, and is full of people who are, like Jeelvy, not serious.

And here we observe a perfect example of why all of the “movement” talk about “rejecting defectives” is a lie.  Der Movement actively embraces defectives.  Defectives welcome!  This Jeelvy should have nothing to do with pro-White activism, but instead is an honored writer for Counter-Currents.  Remember the accusations of Pilleater?  He claimed cocaine use at Amren meetings and homosexual sexual harassment at Counter-Currents meetings. That’s the reality.  Jeelvy is the reality. Talk about eschewing defectives is just self-serving nonsense.  Without defectives, 99% of “racial activism” would vanish overnight.

Consider the niche space of racial activism being like a garden – it is now overgrown with weeds that are choking off any useful growth. Without a thorough weeding, nothing productive is possible.  The rank-and-file have to be convinced that weeding is absolutely required.

Oppose the Movement Caste System for Europeans

No hypocrisy.

Let’s consider the following, emphasis added:

Bolton cites some of the anti-“Med” ramblings of the King of Ethnic Fetishism, “Wilmot Robertson,” and also quotes Stimely’s correct verdict on Robertson’s self-defeating rambling obsessions.  “Robertson” and his legacy remain a highly destructive force within (mostly American) racial nationalism, one major infection point for the obsessive fixations that still remain extant today.  But, let us give some credit to “Robertson” and his followers: at least they are honest about their disgust and contempt for Europeans deriving from the south of Vienna (or Munich) and to the east of Berlin. Worse perhaps are those types who actually believe the same as “Robertson” but make a pretense of being “pan-European” or “pan-Aryan.”  Note to those latter individuals: Europeans – Westerners – are not Hindu Indians, we do not have, or want, a caste system (with Eastern Europeans being lower caste and Southern Europeans being “untouchables”).  Pick your ingroup and that’s your ingroup – if you despise a group, then don’t include them; if you include them then don’t despise them. The basic definition of any group is “in/out” and if Der Movement can’t even get that straight, after decades of discussion and debate, then what good is it?  If that is “vertical race” then Yockey was right to oppose it, but not at the cost of disavowing biological reality

This is an important point I’ve made time and again. Pick your ingroup and then accept the consequences of that choice without being a hypocrite. If you despise certain European types, all well and good, but then please do not pretend that they are part of your ingroup for reasons of self-interest (to maximize followers and “D’Nations” and/or to appeal to members of your real chosen ingroup who have more pan-European ideals than you do yourself). If, on the other hand, you accept X,Y,Z in your ingroup, then there should be no caste system that says that X,Y,Z are inferior to, and subordinate to, A,B,C and that only A,B,C can be leaders and not X,Y,Z.  And don’t accept X,Y,Z with condescending contempt, use them for what they are worth, and then later state that “we need to re-evaluate the ingroup,” after which you exclude those who’ve already invested time, effort, and money for your cause. This latter type of behavior is particularly distasteful, despicable, and dishonorable (and has occurred in Der Movement).

Codreanu’s New Man

Western Destiny essay.

The essay is a commentary on a short scholarly paper analyzing the role of The New Man in the worldview of the Legionary Movement. I comment on certain excerpts from the paper, particularly in light of the current situation of (American) racial nationalism.

The Salterian Ethics of Imperium

Analyzing the worldview of Francis Parker Yockey through the prism of Salterian ethics.

Previously, I discussed the ethics of EGI and of genetic interests in general (“Salterian ethics”) and would now like to discuss how those ethics can be utilized to judge a proposed biopolitical project – Francis Parker Yockey’s  idea of Imperium (a pan-European empire), as outlined in his book by that name. I had, some years ago, attempted to synthesize the world views of Salter and Yockey with respect to the genetic/biological and political considerations – essentially tracking with the first two sections of Salter’s On Genetic Interests, and now I will focus on ethical considerations, which was the topic of the last third of Salter’s book.

In my previous TOQ essay focusing on Salter and Yockey, I explained the difference between gross and net genetic interests, although I did not use those terms:

Alternatively, consider the possibility that a future, very finely grained, autosomal genetic analysis would show a clear distinctiveness between East and West England. A very narrow pursuit of ethnic genetic interest may suggest that the East and West English separate to form new ethnostates and that members of those groups should consider themselves distinct ethnies, not intermarry, etc. However, the costs of such a scenario need to be balanced against the relatively small extra gain in raw genetic interest obtained. This pursuit of narrow regional intra-national genetic interest would result in a disruption of the organic solidarity of the English nation and people; if this disruption makes the English—all of them, East and West—more vulnerable to foreign interests and intrusive demographic expansions, then the costs would outweigh the benefits. Likewise, the legitimate pursuit of intra-Western genetic interests and particularisms needs to be balanced against the possible costs incurred by not presenting a united front against other civilizational concentrations of genetic interest.

The “…very narrow pursuit of ethnic genetic interest” that “may suggest that the East and West English separate to form new ethnostates” would be an example of a pursuit of gross genetic interests – a naïve attempt to maximize EGI without consideration of costs vs. benefits. Taking a broader view, and considering that larger entities may be able to better defend the genetic interests of the populace can lead to optimization of net genetic interests – maximization of EGI when costs and benefits are balanced out.

Yockey’s words…in Imperium are relevant here:

The touching of this racial-frontier case of the Negro, however, shows to Europe a very important fact—that race-difference between White men, which means Western men, is vanishingly small in view of their common mission of actualizing a High Culture. In Europe, where hitherto the race difference between, say, Frenchman and Italian has been magnified to great dimensions, there has been no sufficient reminder of the race-differences outside the Western Civilization. Adequate instruction along this line would apparently have to take the form of occupation of all Europe, instead of only part of it, by Negroes from America and Africa, by Mongols and Turkestan! from the Russian Empire . . .

If any Westerner thinks that the barbarian makes nice distinctions between the former nations of the West, he is incapable of understanding the feelings of populations outside a High Culture toward that culture . . .

. . . But the greatest opposition of all has not yet been named, the conflict which will take up all the others into itself. This is the battle of the Idea of the Unity of the West against the nationalism of the 19th century. Here stand opposed the ideas of Empire and petty-stateism, large-space thinking and political provincialism. Here find themselves opposed the miserable collection of yesterday-patriots and the custodians of the Future. The yesterdaynationalists are nothing but the puppets of the extra-European forces who conquer Europe by dividing it. To the enemies of Europe, there must be no rapprochement, no understanding, no union of the old units of Europe into a new unit, capable of carrying on 20th century politics . . .

. . . Against a united Europe, they could never have made their way in, and only against a divided Europe can they maintain themselves. Split! divide! distinguish!—this is the technique of conquest. Resurrect old ideas, old slogans, now quite dead, in the battle to turn European against European.

Yockey argues that dividing Europeans against themselves, which in the context of an EGI perspective would be an unfettered pursuit of gross genetic interests regardless of the costs, would benefit only the enemies of Europe (and of Europeans) – hence, again from an EGI perspective, net genetic interests would be damaged. Thus, even though Yockey was arguing form a High Culture (and geopolitical) perspective, his comments can be reinterpreted as being consistent with a concern for net EGI as opposed to a blind pursuit of gross EGI.  From the standpoint of Salterian ethics, a focus on net EGI is reasonable, particularly from a “mixed ethic” perspective that also includes concerns for proximate interests (e.g., actualizing a High Culture).

See this for more on Yockey’s racial views, a topic that is relevant to the current analysis. Yockey’s views on race, taken at literal face value, are not very compatible with EGI. If, however, we interpret Yockey as being concerned with eschewing overly disjunctive divisions among (Western) Europeans, and if we view that in the context of preservation of net generic interests by fostering pan-European solidarity vs. outside threats, the seemingly stark incompatibility between Yockey and EGI essentially vanishes.  

My concept of “The EGI Firewall” is useful in these discussions. The firewall establishes the “floor” – the minimum acceptable EGI (or genetic interests more generally) consideration that absolutely must be incorporated into any sociopolitical scenario.  Thus, there is an absolute boundary beyond which one cannot cross without so seriously compromising EGI that the relevant proposal must be rejected.  For example, any scheme that would flood Europe with large numbers of non-Europeans would be completely unacceptable from any reasonable scenario that considers EGI as important and that incorporates Salterian ethics.  There has to be some foundation of EGI for any political project. The question is – where should this boundary be? There is of course no purely objective answer to that question, although the scenario just given does provide an example where most adaptively-minded Europeans would agree that the boundary has clearly been crossed. Of course, the scenario given is precisely the situation being actualized into reality today with the globalist EU and mass migration; it is certainly not merely some theoretical exercise.

From my essay on Salterian ethics:

Salter compares three ethics – pure adaptive utilitarianism (PAU), mixed adaptive utilitarianism (MAU), and the rights-centered ethic (RCE).

Obviously, the RCE would reject both Yockeyism and a biopolitical system based on EGI as damaging “individual rights.”  But the focus of this essay is to evaluate how Yockeyism can be incorporated into Salterian ethics (and vice versa), so the RCE, which is incompatible with Salterian ethics, is irrelevant. We are therefore left with the PAU and MAU ethics.

We can now consider the PAU and MAU.  From the perspective of gross genetic interests, one may question the appropriateness of Yockeyism for the PAU, as the PAU would lead one to favor “smaller is better” micro-states, independent of the effects of that choice on the long term stability of the genetic continuity of the peoples involved.  However, from the perspective of net genetic interests, if Yockeyism maximizes the power of the peoples involved through the establishment of a European Imperium, thus protecting these peoples from outside threats, then Yockeyism could be compatible with PAU. That would hold IF the system set up can safeguard the uniqueness of its constituent peoples. This safeguarding could be accomplished via the acceptance of a degree of local sovereignty (that Yockey agreed with) and the preservation of borders, with the Imperium being a confederation of nations and regions, each preserving their particular biological and cultural characteristics. One would in this case reject a single borderless state in which national and regional identities are erased and in which ethnic distinctiveness is lost via panmixia.  In order for this scenario to be stable long term, this characteristic of the Imperium – the preservation of the unique characteristics of its constituent parts – would need to be considered an absolutely fundamental and unalterable keystone of the state’s raison d’etre.  This is the EGI Firewall discussed above – a minimum absolute requirement for preservation of EGI, even at “lower” levels, as part of any political and social projects that are actualized.  I note that civilizational blocs are proposed by Salter in his book as one approach for protecting EGI, so the idea is not by its nature incompatible with EGI; it is a question of implementation.

Thus, Yockeyism could be compatible with PAU ethics under conditions such as described above, and with a firm understanding of net vs. gross genetic interests.

If Yockeyism could be compatible with the PAU, then it certainly can be compatible with the MAU, since the latter allows for other (proximate) interests, besides the ultimate interests of genetic interests, to be considered and actualized into policy, as long as the fundamental rights of genetic continuity are not abrogated. Here we see that an enlightened PAU that considers net genetic interests begins to converge onto the MAU, if the proximate interests under consideration are such that could actually contribute to EGI in some manner (e.g., actualizing a High Culture, as opposed to a mere concern for “individual rights).

So Yockeyism, with the proper caveats, and from the net genetic interests respective, could indeed be compatible with Salterian ethics.