Category: admixture

Of Declines and Falls

Not always an alien influx followed by racial admixture.

One of Der Movement’s favorite memes is the idea that national decline and the fall of civilizations always have an external racial basis – i.e., the decline and fall occurs as a result of some sort of alien influx followed by “racial admixture.”

A look at history provides many counter-examples.  Consider the Italian Renaissance, centered on North-Central Italy, particularly Tuscany-Florence. The great intellectual ferment there changes the world and then essentially vanished, all without the influx/admixture model being relevant.  What happened to the great Italian artists like Michelangelo and the all-around figures like Alberti and da Vinci?  Where are the great German composers today?  After Nietzsche and Heidegger, what happened to German philosophy?  What happened to French culture and French martial glory? Where’s the English Dickens and Shakespeare today?  Isn’t it true that the Third World influx into Great Britain occurred after, not before, they lost their empire?  Spain lost their empire, but that empire was formed after they had thrown off centuries of Arabic rule; it wasn’t that the “Arab influx” was responsible for Spain’s fall.  Does anyone really believe Portugal lost their empire because of “an influx of Negro blood?”  Was it really possible for a small nation like Portugal could maintain their lead in exploration and colonization after larger European nations got involved?  Did “racial admixture” lose the Netherlands most of their overseas possessions?  Did the transformation of Scandinavians from Vikings to SJW social democrats involve “racial admixture” or did the alien invasion of that part of Europe occur after the behavioral and cultural changes?

In these cases, to the extent the problem was biological, it was internal – dysgenics including the counter-selective effects of war, Frost’s genetic pacification, and the breeding of the unfit and the botched – as well as cultural/historical (Spengler?).  In many cases, alien influx and admixture, when it has occurred, was the consequence, not the cause, of decline. One can speculate that the Ancient World was similar.  In some cases of course, admixture may have caused decline (Ancient Egypt?  The Middle East?) but that’s as much the exception as it is the rule.

But Der Movement can’t get is head around such ideas, just as their heavy breathing about Paleolithic/Neolithic differences in Europe typically doesn’t understand that such differences were in place long before the beginnings of the Ancient World’s Classical Civilizations.

I would invoke “cognitive dissonance” here, but that implies some sort of cognitive process to begin with.

A note:

It’s a bit humorous that the same Alt Right that has disdain for S. Italians also has an obsessive man-crush on Julius Evola who is described thus:

Giulio Cesare Andrea Evola was born in Rome to a minor aristocratic family of Sicilian origins.

Again, I could say “cognitive dissonance” but that implies some degree of cognitive function, and I’m not sure how much of that Der Movement actually has.

More Amren Lies on Lynn’s Pseudoscientific Fraud

Amren is an embarrassment.

In the last edition, the Balkan countries were shown to have lower IQs than Western Europe. Lynn argues that they are clines, reflecting genetic admixture with peoples from the Near East, where the IQs are in the range of approximately 90 (Turkey), 87 (Lebanon) and 83 (Syria) and hence the peoples of the southern Balkans are a mixed race cline of European and Near-Eastern populations with IQs intermediate between the two peoples.

Absolute retardation. Note the word “hence.” Essentially, the senile fool is saying that admixture exists because his “estimated” IQ scores are in between the populations – as if (falsified) IQ score differences prove (or determine?) a “racial cline.” There is absolutely no evidence for any such cline, assuming that Lynn is not so absolutely stupid to confuse Neolithic farmer ancestry with modern Near Eastern ancestry – particularly stupid since varying degrees of Neolithic ancestry is found throughout Europe. Thus, the groups that Lynn calls “European” have the same ancestry (to a lesser degree) as the others. Even if all of this is true, one thing does not necessarily cause another. Even IF the IQ scores were intermediate between two populations does not mean that the population with those scores are genetically/racially intermediate between the other two populations.

Likewise, in the last edition, Lynn noted that Portugal’s IQ was significantly lower than other Western European countries, something he put down to Early Modern African slaves, an issue which was not a factor in Spain, for example.

So, the retard is arguing that the admixture exists in Portugal, but not at all in Spain? What about the “North African” admixture (which carries some sub-Saharan genes)? Lynn is a pathetic joke.

In this edition, it is shown that the IQ in the far south of Western Europe is, in general, significantly below 100.

That is not true.

In Sicily and in the South of mainland Italy it is 90, and in southern Spain it is 95.5.

That’s from Lynn’s “estimates.” However, as discussed previously at this blog, there is ZERO real evidence for these IQ scores based on actual IQ data. ZERO. There are data that the IQs throughout Italy are similar, and there is also data that IQs in the south may be higher.

Lynn argues that the populations here are a European-North African cline, so the IQ is intermediate between Europe and North Africa.

What an idiot. North African input here is maybe, at most, at the level of ~ 5% at most, which is not, as Lynn implies, some sort of half-way intermediate admixed cline. That low level of admixture is not reasonably plausible as a possible source of depressing IQ to the absurdly low levels that Lynn “estimates.” In reality, the Mediterranean Sea has been an effective genetic barrier. Those Southern European populations are NOT “racial clines.” They are European populations with low levels of “exotic admixture” at levels comparable to admixture (of varying types/origins) found in different parts of Europe.

He quotes many expert sources–often verbatim and at length–to back up these interpretations and also substantiates his interpretation with gene frequency data.

Expert sources? The sources linked in his published papers were laughable and his interpretations of population genetics were comical, cherry picked nonsense. Again: there is ZERO evidence that actual IQ in Southern Europe is as low as Lynn asserts, and there is ZERO evidence that these populations are some sort of heavily admixed “racial cline.” Admixture exists throughout Europe at low levels; but of course, an Asiaphile like Lynn would consider East Asian admixture is a positive thin (boosting IQ, I suppose). The autosomal data linked in this post do not support the implication of a heavily admixed “cline” radically different from other parts of Italy or Spain. The differences are relatively minor and consistent with the “genes mirror geography” gradual clines found tthroughout Europe as a whole. Does this image suggest any sort of radical “racial cline” within Italy (North-Central-South)?

That Amren is still pushing Lynnian crap (while they still kowtow to Jews) tells you all you need to know about the destructive stupidity, mendacity, and cowardice of the conservative-HBD faction of Der Movement. Pushing outright LIES and pseudoscientific distortions – a complete embarrassment. Interesting how Jews have to be treated with “kid gloves” for political expediency, but White gentile ethnics can be lied about with impunity. The truth about Jews must be covered up, while fantastic inventions about dagoes must be promoted. I can’t seem to remember that Jefferson quote suggesting we need to lie to protect non-European peoples, yet promote falsehoods about Europeans.

Even AFTER Lynn has been refuted on these issues, Amren still promotes these lies. Amren seems emotionally beholden toward lying to their readers. Amren is pitiful – part of the problem, not the solution. 

Dienekes on U6

An Eurasian origin?

Ordinarily, I have zero interest in mitochondrial and NRY DNA studies, but there is an underlying issue here that is relevant to the important autosomal DNA – some of what has been considered “admixture” may not be, it may be due to a misunderstanding of haplotype/haplogroup origins or, for autosomal DNA, a lack of proper parental populations (or a lack of application of statistical significance).  Or, a failure to go back far enough.  That may or not be the case here, but in population genetics, as in science as a whole, there is never a “final answer” – new data should can always alter beliefs/hypotheses.

In any case, the “racial purity” meme is less relevant to EGI than is genetic kinship, an all-encompassing concept that takes into account all sources of genetic divergence (including real admixture), to establish the genetic benefits and costs of different biopolitical scenarios.

HBD in the News, 5/4/16

Two items.

Read abstract, emphasis added:

Modern humans arrived in Europe ~45,000 years ago, but little is known about their genetic composition before the start of farming ~8,500 years ago. Here we analyse genome-wide data from 51 Eurasians from ~45,000–7,000 years ago. Over this time, the proportion of Neanderthal DNA decreased from 3–6% to around 2%, consistent with natural selection against Neanderthal variants in modern humans. Whereas there is no evidence of the earliest modern humans in Europe contributing to the genetic composition of present-day Europeans, all individuals between ~37,000 and ~14,000 years ago descended from a single founder population which forms part of the ancestry of present-day Europeans. An ~35,000-year-old individual from northwest Europe represents an early branch of this founder population which was then displaced across a broad region, before reappearing in southwest Europe at the height of the last Ice Age ~19,000 years ago. During the major warming period after ~14,000 years ago, a genetic component related to present-day Near Easterners became widespread in Europe. These results document how population turnover and migration have been recurring themes of European prehistory.

No. no, a thousand times no!  And now, let’s cite some HBD Chick interviews…

Also, I wonder how the HBDers reconcile their inbred/outbred scheme with the greater genetic heterogeneity in Southern Europe. I assume the official, Der Movement-approved, explanation would invoke heavy admixture – that the greasers are a heterogeneous mix of 50% sub-Saharan African and 50% Arab, who subsequently spent the centuries marrying their cousins, hence combining heterogeneity with being inbred. But, still, one wonders.