Category: Taylor

Race and Der Movement in Der News

In der news.

The end of White celebrity.

Was this ever an issue for any other President?  Essentially, Trump is being stripped of his Presidential powers, a sort of de facto impeachment.

Good Taylor video.  Taylor would be of optimal benefit for White advocacy by concentrating on media like this, or running for public office.  

The Amish election lie being promoted here.  For reality, see this.  Der Movement’s fervid hatred against White ethnics is revealed by their promotion of the Amish Lie.

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Ethnonationalists Stumble Along the March

A point to make.

This was my first trip to Ireland, and I was struck—just as I was during a 2014 trip to Hungary—by the strength of lingering intra-European rivalries. It is hard to know just how seriously the Irish nurse their grievances, but many still seem to think of the English as hereditary oppressors.

The same attitude that led to two wold wars and the wrecking of the White world – the attitude promoted by ethnonationalists today. Ethnonationalist shills will say it doesn’t matter; Europeans can hate each other as long as it motivates them to preserve themselves.

Really?  What about this:

Sinn Fein, which many see as a “nationalist” party because of its opposition to England, but which pushes an inexplicable refugees welcome/open borders policy.

Typical of ethnonationalists: scorn fellow Europeans, while embracing the World of Color. The same with Brexit, with “Polish plumbers” being anathema, while those good sturdy yeoman “Commonwealth” Hindus and West Indians are the veritable salt of the earth.

Racially conscious Irish nationalists of course understand that their country now has far more important things to worry about. 

Indeed they do.  And ethnonationalism is one of the things they need to worry about.

Another Alt Right Infiltration

More extreme vetting I suppose.

Read this.  Excerpts, emphasis added:

Back in January, I e-mailed Dr. Greg Johnson, organizer of Northwest Forum, Seattle’s hottest closed-door white nationalist convention, asking for an interview on the latest in regional racism. He turned me down….Also thanks to the internet, it only took me about an hour to change my identity from David Lewis, Seattle historian, to Dave Lewis, Neo-Nazi film editor and aspiring book critic from Charlottesville, currently living in Los Angeles. This Dave Lewis has never been to Seattle, but has always wanted to attend Northwest Forum.
My film editor persona dangled a giant chunk of cheese in front of Dr. Johnson. In addition to being a racist, Johnson is also a huge cinephile who has published two books of “pro-white” movie reviews wherein he rants against Zootopia as “pure evil” but surprisingly enjoyed 8 Mile. The role of film editor also worked to my advantage because, despite a recent fundraising spike, the white nationalist movement still has a hard time attracting people with artistic or technical talent.
Dr. Johnson bit the cheese. 

If I wrote this as parody, I would be accused of taking cheap shots with juvenile mockery.  Unfortunately, this is not parody; it is reality.

Entry into Northwest Forum typically requires “extreme vetting,” which means meeting in person and getting a beer with one of the Northwest’s white separatist organizations like True Cascadia. But I didn’t even have to send in a photo after mentioning that, as a Charlottesville native (actually from Ballard), I was writing an essay titled Tear Down Lee and Put Up Lincoln: Abraham Lincoln, World’s Greatest White Nationalist. 

Another transparently flimsy “resume.”  And he got in without being Swedish: Good work, David.

Just to scrub out any doubt, I was also carrying a copy of the 1958 Neo-Nazi classic The Lightning and the Sun. 

Worse and worse…

Upon entering, a woman who looked like a grizzled waitress from a black and white movie hit me up for a $40 admission fee (not mentioned in my invitation). 

More panhandling.

Virtually every time I use the word “Nazi” I’m using it as an insult. In the world of millennial white nationalism, there aren’t a ton of people who actually self-identify as Nazis. Despite usually agreeing with everything the Nazis did and believing the Holocaust is just “anti-white propaganda,” they always claim a technical reason for why they aren’t “National Socialists.” 

No, they’re “ethnonationalists” and “HBD race realists,” you see.

When not fighting for the white ethno-state, Dr. Johnson lives an extremely NPR lifestyle filled with world travel, visits to art galleries, and opera. 

As I’ve previously written, most of the “movement” leaders live better than do their donors.  Keep on sending the money!

People attend the forum to meet the visiting blue chip racists that Dr. Johnson flies in. Notable guests have included Identity Evropa founder Nathan Damigo and anti-semitic professor Kevin MacDonald. The forum I attended featured Jared Taylor, founder and editor of the online white nationalist magazine American Renaissance, fresh from his VICE interview with Eddie Huang. One of the world’s leading advocates for scientific racism…

HBD is not “scientific racism.”

Taylor is unique among white nationalists in that he believes East Asians to be objectively superior to whites. 

It’s interesting that an anti-racist infiltrator noticed something that Far Right activists get criticized for mentioning.

Speaking of Hitler, while at the bar getting coffee and Top Pot donuts, I noticed Seattle’s Hitler tea-pot guy, Charles Krafft…He has become a staple at Northwest Forum, known for holding before-parties at his house, which he rents from a Chinese-American landlord.

Don’t forget: that’s an objectively superior Chinese American landlord.

The only local voice for white separatism was the laughably uncharismatic Harold Covington of Northwest Front, who according to Krafft, asks people for money immediately upon meeting them. 

Now, that’s a genuine “movement” activist.  The new symbol of American White nationalism: a tin cup.

Enough mingling! It was time for the speeches on the second floor. Dr. Johnson announced that everything we were about to hear was totally off the record and not to be shared with anybody outside our circle of racists. Did this mean I would have to turn off the tape recorder that had been running in my backpack for the last 3 hours? Better not ask.

I mean, you just can’t make this stuff up.  By the way, all you donors are paying for this.

Speakers encouraged followers to take the Gandhi approach and continue getting punched in the face a la Richard Spencer. The media will have no choice but to turn to its side, their reasoning went. Taylor, Dr. Johnson, and the other speakers are all pretty married to this strategy.

That’s grand strategy on a world historical scale.

I was never more aware that I was dealing with Seattle racists than when it came time for questions and people were asking the same kind of self-righteous, rambling, statement-questions you encounter at Town Hall. One of the questions came from an East Indian-Canadian. 

Hey!  That’s an Indo-European Aryan.  Didn’t the good and great Savitri Davi marry one?  The Lightning and the Sun, indeed.

My interest picked up when Dr. Johnson, seated on a Masonic throne, announced that we would all be going to dinner at Buca di Beppo. When I called one of my emergency contact friends about the change of location she said, “Buca di Beppo? Do Nazis need to carbo load?”
He’d reserved two large tables and a smaller one for the duds. Showing up late, I got stuck at the dud table along with the Wise Old Man, a 91-year-old Holocaust denier who went to Hollywood back in 1952 for a songwriting career. When that didn’t work out, he started waving anti-Israel signs at the Oscars for the next 40 years. Krafft was really wowed by him, but nobody else cared.

Remember, dear reader, when your “leaders” pontificated about the need to eschew defectives?

“That movie Hidden Figures was bullshit,” a guy dressed like John Goodman in The Big Lebowski said out of nowhere. “We never went to the moon, Stanley Kubrick faked all of it.” 

And there you go: rampant freakishness, conspiracy theorizing, the flotsam and jetsam of an alienated society embraced.  All these Alt Right types like to compare their superior White Nationalism 2.0 to the old White Nationalism 1.0; I can tell them that their meetings today exhibit no better quality of attendees than the ones we were doing twenty years ago.

John Goodman then continued with a whole range of conspiracy theories from Waco, to the Bible, to how TV broadcasts were designed to give him anger issues.
Twenty minutes after we finished eating, it was time to go and the Wise Old Man looked around confused. “When is the food coming?” He can remember all kinds of Zionist conspiracies, but he can’t remember that he ate 15 minutes ago.

No comment.

At the time, I didn’t realize I wasn’t the only undercover reporter at Northwest Forum. 

A tipping point eventually will be reached: there will be more infiltrators at these meetings than genuine activists.

At the June forum they’d let in a much better looking, better funded, Antifa activist all the way from Sweden, equipped with James Bond-quality cameras and sound equipment.
…white nationalists who want to take over America but can’t screen out reporters…

And with that, we end analysis of this fiasco.

Der Movement marches on.  Remember dear reader: you are paying for this; you are supporting this.  In the last analysis it is your fault. You can end this nightmare overnight.  You choose not to do so.  

Enjoy.

Stupid Derbyshire: 10/11/17

Another incoherent quota queen.

Read this nonsense.

Just like Derbyshire debated Taylor on miscegenation (it’s all good, according to the Derb, at least for him, and if you don’t like it, come to his house and he’ll punch you in the face – his essential position), he is now opposing Taylor on racial separation: No Sale, says Derb, it’s impossible, simply impossible.

Hmmm…why would a White male (not man) married to a Chinese woman with half-Chinese children, oppose the idea of people in America actually separating, in a political sense, on the basis of race?  Just like we can productively speculate why such a person would be so opposed to criticism of miscegenation.  Just like we know why he insists the major racial dividing line is Blacks vs. non-Blacks as opposed to Whites vs. non-Whites.  We just can’t acknowledge the bizarre alien nature of Mrs. Derbyshire and the kids now, can we?

Anyway, and predictably, Derbyshire’s self-interested position is incoherent.  He’s all for “freedom of association” don’t you know (so, we can be free to eschew him and his family?), but actual separation is “no sale” because Blacks need Whites

Derbyshire:

Of that fraction of blacks with something on the ball, all but the most saintly and self-sacrificing will decamp to the nearest nonblack area, as you see happening today across the Mediterranean. Jared’s white enclaves are going to need some very serious border control. His proposed multicultural enclave, where people who want diversity can enjoy it, will get way less diverse really fast. It’ll just turn black.
There is simply no stable solution here. Whites don’t need blacks, but blacks need whites, if they are to have any kind of civilized life.
Jared’s second clip is similarly flawed, even setting aside the mayhem that attended the breakup of Yugoslavia. The racial gap in what was formerly Soviet Central Asia is nowhere near the size it is between American blacks and nonblacks.
So, sorry to Jared and those of his followers who emailed in, but on the matter of separation: no sale.
I do, though, fully agree with Jared on the desirability of striking down all legal constraints on private freedom of association. Forced racial integration is an outrageous assault on our liberties.
With freedom of association restored there would, I believe, be enough voluntary separation to lower the racial temperature and ease us forward to the calm acceptance of reality that the race issue so badly needs.

Look, if Blacks need Whites, and if we cannot have racial separation because there is no way to keep Blacks out (but doesn’t Derbyshire think that Europe can and should prevent the migrant invasion?), then how can we have freedom of association?  Blacks are going to want to live in the “non-Black” areas formed by “voluntary separation.”  How are you going to keep them out?  You can strike down “legal constraints on private freedom of association” but you still need some way to ENFORCE that separation.  If Blacks start coming into Derb’s pristine White-Yellow neighborhood paradise, what’s the solution? Call the police?  The National Guard?  Will law enforcement be segregated as well?

The other incoherent aspect of Derbyshire’s stupidity is his idea that we can have racial peace if we can all just accept HBD race realism and enjoy our voluntary separation and “cool down the racial temperature.”  As if Blacks, with their militancy and low intelligence and inflated self-esteem (all HBD-approved factoids, no?), will just accept being viewed as dumb and violent sub-altern Americans and if they would just accept being eschewed by “voluntary separation.”

Just like Sailer’s citizenism fails because it is no more realistic than racial nationalism (Trump’s citizenism didn’t last past the election) and won’t accomplish anything, Derbyshire’s idea that acceptance of racial differences and freedom of association will solve the race problem is ludicrous.

Derbyshire’s position is self-contradictory, and is reflective of his personal situation, his cognitive deficiency, or both.

A Lack of Self Awareness

Something is missing.

This is a good podcast as far as it goes, particularly with respect to the DACA fiasco.

But something is missing.  I did not hear the comment: “We here were naïve about Trump, we exhibited poor judgment, we were wrong and others who long ago identified the truth about Trump were right.”

But, no, they cannot do that.  But let me ask one question to the readers here.  Some of the readers of EGI Notes are, I assume, also readers of Amren (and other standard “movement” sites).  So, the question to you, dear readers, is this: Which site, months before the election, correctly identified Trump as an unworthy buffoon and beta race cuck; and which enthusiastically pro-Trump site told you that Trump was “the last hope for White America?”

You know the answer to that, don’t you?  You also know that you – and by “you” I mean the “movement” rank-and-file – will do nothing about it, and will continue to support a leadership that has let you down time and time again.

Truth be told, many years ago, the Legion Europa project attempted to reason with the “movement.”  Years ago, when I was interviewed by Robert Griffin for his book, I outlined the types of activities that racial activists can do – centered around those that look to the Legionary movement for inspiration and/or those also centered around community activism – to actually make a difference.  What happened?  The Legion Europa project was either ignored or attacked; the advice in Griffin’s book went for nothing, as if I was speaking to the wind. The “movement” did not like the message, no, actually, the “movement” did not like the messenger, so it was all for nothing.

And old saying: “Every nation gets the leadership it deserves”  The same applies to racial activists – all of you get the leadership you deserve.  And now, the American “movement” sits around and scratches its collective (empty) head and wonders how they got fooled once again by a false “man on white horse” hero.

And so, the “movement” talks about “pattern recognition” – without recognizing the patterns inherent in its own failures.

Can you recognize any patterns?  Good luck with that.

A Tale of Two Failures

A tale of two failures: Klassen and Pierce.

We’ll now take a look at this analysis of Klassen’s basic errors and compare some of those to that of Pierce, and observant readers can discern patterns inherent in generalized “movement” failure. This is by no means any comprehensive analysis; nevertheless, it points toward real problems.

Problem A: Less than Stellar Employees
The problems Ben Klassen ran into are probably more related to the natural conditions of pioneering any sort of new religious and ideological territory than failings on his part. After all, Klassen’s career was extraordinary. He was so financially successful he was able to retire as a young man. From that situation he went on to successfully invent and market a product, be elected to public office, and make more money in real estate in Florida. His racial ideas, while radical, cannot be ignored.
His first problem related to the limitations of his pioneering work was having more problem employees than top talent during his active career as the church’s leader. Klassen writes in 1992, “I had damn few volunteers to choose from that were foot-loose and fancy free, could type and were dedicated to the cause, all of which is a dismal reflection on the disoriented state of mind in which the White Race was then, and still is.”
White advocate Jared Taylor spoke of this phenomenon in a 2017 YouTube.com interview. After describing his “redpilling” and white advocacy work going back to 1990, Taylor says, “In the earlier days you met most unusual people because it took a very unusual frame of mind to look into those dusty corners of university libraries [where frank discussions of racial matters existed in print] and to be aware of the obscure PO Boxes [where one could get racially frank literature]. So they were always very unusual people. Now, you meet more and more perfectly ordinary (sic), they’re not particularly unusual, they don’t have sort of the odd kinks of the mind that the older race realists tend to have. They’re smart, hard-working, nice looking, attractive people who have just seen through the rubbish.”[3]
In the above statement, Jared Taylor is pulling his punches and being generous. 

Dissident movements tend to attract marginal personalities.  It’s the nature of the beat.  One could attempt – one MUST attempt – to counter this tendency by weeding out the more obvious dysfunctional individuals at the very least. Failure to do so make dysfunction a self-reinforcing quality, as higher quality people become repelled by the freaks, while, of course, even more freaks are attracted.  Der Movement has always had the weakness of being so desperate for followers, for validation that they’ve accepted virtually anyone and everyone, leaving themselves open to both sincere freaks as well as malicious infiltrators.

Of course, in reading some of the quotes above, one wonders about the “pot-kettle” thing, but we can leave that aside for now.

Problem B: Location, Location, Location
Klassen sunk a great deal of capital into his church’s campus in the mountains of western North Carolina. In Trials… Klassen remarked that most of his neighbors were curious about his ideas and mostly friendly to his face. However, this friendliness masked the serious problems that developed due to the church’s location.
On the surface, the homogeneously white and rural location in the “conservative” Highland South would be a great pick for a new, explicitly pro-white church, however this was not the case…Framed in the metapolitical structure of the time and place, Klassen was, to put it simply, a living embodiment of “evil.” He was a big target smack dab in the center of the pre-sighted range of the Southern Protestant “Guns of Singapore.” The workers building Klassen’s church were shot at and had to bring their firearms to the site to be able to finish the job. After the church was built, it was vandalized, and the sign was hit by a shotgun blast. Klassen received hate mail, bomb threats, hostile trespassers, and prank phone calls…Klassen did recognize that his Christian neighbors would be hostile in theory. However, he didn’t realize the counterintuitive nature of ethnic struggles. This is the second problem with his pick of location. Those in homogeneous areas like Minnesota, western North Carolina, and Vermont are often so insulated from non-white dysfunction that there is no understanding in such communities of why someone like Ben Klassen would come into their midst with an idea that the institution of Christianity damaged white racial interests. They didn’t even realize white racial interests were under threat. As a result, every local politician in the area could be hostile to Klassen and not lose a single vote.
Had Klassen organized his church in South Florida, Anglo preachers would, possibly, have sermonized against him, but the whites in the pews would have all had personal experience dealing with non-whites and their problems. With this in mind, in South Florida, The World Church of the Creator might have easily gotten a quiet, solid-as-bedrock, base of support. 

True. But these types make the same mistake over and over again.  What is it?  Quota queen deficiencies?  Personal preferences (see about Pierce below)?  Ethnic affinities?

Had Klassen purchased property in the Poconos, he’d probably had done one better. Those with summer homes in that area would have had deep connections to New York City, quite possibly the city with the most red-pilled white population on this planet. It is also possible that had Klassen put his headquarters in eastern Pennsylvania and northwestern New Jersey, he’d have had an all-around better class of “walk-ins” supporting him.

But, but, but…those Whites (you know, the same sorts who supported Trump precisely because Trump was painted as a “fascist bigot” by the media) are the wrong (wrong! wrong!) kind of Whites – or perhaps not even White at all! Southern European Negroes, Eastern European Asiatics, all sorts of non-core European, outside-the-Hajnal-line, low life trash!  No, no, a thousand times no!  

The National Alliance – well, Pierce – made a similar error with respect to location– moving to the mountains of West Virginia, completely isolated from the main currents of American (and world) events and power, was a horrendously bad case of poor judgment.  And this was particularly so given that Pierce exerted tight centralized control over the activities of the Alliance’s local units (see more on this below) – a person so isolated being in no condition to exert control over people dealing with the real world of modern America.  And to the argument – “they had to move there to avoid leftist attacks” – let’s consider what Pierce told Griffin when the latter was writing his biography of the former.  Essentially, Pierce left DC because he wanted to, he wasn’t comfortable in “the big city,” he preferred the “mountain man” life, and he was getting disgusted and triggered by DC and was “doing things” (*) and was afraid those “things” would escalate and get him in real trouble.  The move from DC to Hillsboro was not really informed by a grand strategy, but by Pierce’s personal lifestyle preferences and his self-stated inability to control his behavior.  Now, if the “National Office” was the headquarters of an underground guerilla movement then, yes, living out in the middle of nowhere, the grand sage on the mountaintop, would have made sense.  But as the leadership of an aboveground, legal, metapolitical activist group, the location of the National Office was simply terrible.  If DC or some other “diverse” city was unacceptable, then there were plenty of predominantly White smaller cities, not too far from the centers of power, in which a real National Office could have been located.  With the income being generated, and with some good sense, and quality staff, security arrangements could have made that would have been tolerable. But that’s not what Pierce wanted for his lifestyle, with the predictable outcome.

Also, and no offense meant to those who worked with Pierce in the wilds of West Virginia, but that location, that environment selected for people who were not representative of Whites in general, or of White nationalists more specifically.  That may be one reason why the Alliance’s propaganda (apart from the ADV broadcasts, which were usually quite good), membership handbook, and book catalog were all “off-putting” and did not resonate well with the target audience.  Essentially, the location predisposed the National Alliance to (relative) irrelevance and failure.


Problem C: Too Many Targets
Ben Klassen did himself no favors by picking too many targets. In his tribal struggle against Jews and non-whites, he also became a tax protestor, an anti-Mason, and an anti-Federal Reserve activist. His anti-Mason attitudes were probably correct in a European, French Revolution sense, but in the English Speaking World, Freemasonry is little more than a social club providing a place for retirees to get away from the wife and bicker with each other over trifles. 

Conspiracy theorizing and pet peeves have always been a problem for Der Movement. That goes against one of my most important pieces of advice: do not expand “movement” freakishness beyond what is absolutely necessary. That’s Sallis’ Razor: do not multiply memetic entities beyond necessity. Racial nationalism is already a “bridge too far” for most people, adding these other things is just plain stupid.

However, his biggest “too many targets” problem was his tax protest. Because he didn’t file his taxes, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) was on to him, and that gave a desperate edge to his activities. 

That was just plain stupidity (once again) on Klassen’s part.  Why add to your troubles and give the System ammunition against you?


Don Johnson died of a heart attack shortly after the Chilton Bank fiasco, and Klassen came to believe that his employee may have been a plant to disrupt his activities all along. 

Maybe.  Or maybe Klassen was simply foolish.  Or both.

Problem D: Competent Enemies
While Klassen was stuck with a large number of bumbling employees and unable to find a “great promoter” or “white financial angel,” his enemies moved on him with a ruthless efficiency. Klassen’s true ideological enemies consisted of the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center, both of whom used the local Macon County, North Carolina authorities to further their aims.
His enemies used the tactics of the strong against the weak. If one has more firepower but is faced with an elusive enemy, the trick is to bait the enemy into exposing itself to the firepower. This happened on the night of June 13-14, 1986. Klassen’s chief typesetter and employee Carl Messick, titled by Klassen Hasta Primus (meaning spearhead) awoke to voices in the middle of the night. Fearing an arson attack, he called both Klassen and the sheriff’s department and then took a firearm and fired into the intruders’ car as the trespassers attempted to escape. It turned out the intruders were a Georgia couple, William and Patricia Trusty. They claimed to be looking to visit a local couple. Remember, in 1986, there were not any pro-white activists on the internet that could crowd-sleuth the Trusty’s background like today.
The SPLC’s report on the affair states that the “…[S]ecurity chief Carl Messick fires 19 shots at the car of a Georgia couple who strayed onto the COTC grounds.”[11] The SPLC intelligence report doesn’t mention that the Trusty’s “strayed” onto COTC grounds in the middle of the night. The Sherriff’s Department arrested Messick. The trial was another unforced error. Messick didn’t use a lawyer in his defense, but the alleged paralegal expert in the COTC, the aforementioned Don Johnson. Messick was sentenced to seven years. By Klassen’s account, Messick was one of the few competent employees, and his incarceration really put him behind.
Klassen’s movement was bankrupted by the SPLC legal trick of suing a pro-white organization after someone with “links” to it did an illegal act. In this case, a follower of Klassen shot a black sailor and Gulf War veteran in a road rage incident in 1991. A jury ruled in favor of the SPLC and The World Church of the Creator was destroyed.
This tactic, where a follower of an extreme, pro-white group gets involved in a violent confrontation with someone else, and the SPLC swoops in with slick lawyers that seek a bankrupting judgement is effective. However, like the famous Highland Charge was effective against soldiers armed with matchlock harquebuses, but not more advanced flintlocks that were quicker to load and had a longer range, the SPLC’s tactic might not work in the future.

Again, quality followers/employees are important here.  And anyone who takes someone with an online handle like “supernazi1488ssmanadolflives” and gives them “the keys to the kingdom” is just asking for trouble.  Don’t be all surprised when your files end up in the hands of “watchdog groups.”

The SPLC’s bankrupt on behalf of tactic only works in a situation where the overwhelming preponderance of the public see the SPLC as a moral force. Additionally, a jury must be persuaded to give a big payout targeting an organization only thinly “linked” to the actual criminal, therefore the entire jury must be totally alienated from any pro-white idea. If pro-white metapolitical ideas seep into the culture, jury decisions will change. Additionally, this tactic can be used against the SPLC. For example, in 2012 a gunman named Floyd Lee Corkins II, who had links to the SPLC, shot up the Family Research Council after the SPLC labeled them a “hate group.”

Let’s consider the tight and hyper-centralized control of National Alliance activities by Pierce and his “National Office,” relevant to the abovementioned stories.

I have heard some people defend Pierce’s rigid centralized control with reference to the SPLC tactics mentioned above.  The idea was this – if Pierce let local units have more autonomy, they might do something illegal, which would be used to legally bankrupt the Alliance.  Or even if they just did something stupid and not illegal, and/or produced shoddy propaganda, that would have been an embarrassment to the “National Office.”

There is some truth to that.  One could counter-argue that by establishing such tight control, Perce created a legal situation that he could not plausibly deny pre-knowledge and approval if a NA member did do something illegal (even if Pierce had nothing at all to do with it and had no pre-knowledge). One could counter-counter-argue that this wouldn’t have made a difference one way or another, Pierce would have been blamed in any event, so better he exerted as tight control as possible.

A better argument against Pierce’s centralized control was that if he had picked better local unit coordinators, and had been more selective in NA membership, he would have had higher quality people in the local units who could have been trusted with a bit more autonomy.  You could have had local unit coordinators enforcing discipline in some cases rather than having the constant micro-management from the local office.

And the most convincing argument against the Pierce approach was that the centralized control was not really of the nature of “hey, you can do some local initiatives targeted to your local context, but you need approval first” but rather of the nature of “you guys can do nothing except distribute propaganda produced by the National Office (purchased by members thus forcing them to subsidize Pierce’s lifestyle if they wanted to do some local activity) or maybe if you are Gliebe you can be allowed to put together some sort of small cultural festivals.”  In other words, the centralized control essentially stifled all local initiative and all local activities except putting up the NA’s stickers and distributing leaflets (except again for a small amount of leeway allotted to one local unit – Gliebe’s).  Pierce’s centralized control was excessive, it was not a request for approval but rather a denial of all local initiative.  It led local units to be nothing more than money-generating vehicles for the National Office: membership dues, purchasing the centralized propaganda for distribution, and recruiting more members to do the same.  It was more like a Ponzi scheme or cult than an activist organization.  It could have been possible for Pierce to retain control but still let local initiatives go forward, if these initiative were actualized by high quality members, led by high quality local unit coordinators, and with timely approval by the National Office.  That’s not how it was done, however.

*I remember visiting the DC area during the last years of Pierce being located there (and long before I became associated with Der Movement), and seeing a building in Arlington with the following words, in big letters, carved into its wall: White Revolution is the Only Solution – accompanied by a swastika. One wonders if that was an example of Pierce “doing things.”

Trump Denounces Us All

Donald J. Trump: anti-White leftist cuck.

President Donald Trump included the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazi groups in condemning violence after a white nationalist rally, the White House said on Sunday, the day after he was criticized on the left and right for not explicitly condemning white supremacists.…the White House said in a statement that Trump’s message on Saturday “condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred, and of course that includes white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi, and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together.”

I have one question for all the Trump fanboys, for all the heavy-breathing fantasy-mongers of “4-D chess, for Roissy and his homoerotic obsessions, and for all the rest of the so-called Alt Right: when has Trump publicly denounced Antifa?

We all know the answer to that, don’t we?

Let’s look at this: Trump has refused to denounce actual violent leftist terrorists, people who are his avowed enemies, people who attack his own supporters; on the other hand, Trump publicly denounces law-abiding individuals who simply wanted to hold a public rally, some of whom are Trump supporters.

Trump is an absolute omega male ultra-cuck, a dishonorable empty vessel bereft of any integrity whatsoever.  Donald J. Trump, with his Jewish family connections, mixed-race grandchildren, love of Negroes, and his embracing of “dreamers” – coupled to his attacks against Sessions – proves what he really is, and always has been. It also shows what the insanely obsessed Trump fanboys are also.

So, Spencer, if I and Johnson are unacceptable, get some input from Taylor.

Thoughts on this:


Do not announce in advance, wear uniforms….Yes, I agree.  Well organized. Can’t control the optics, should be smaller and more cohesive – agreed, and that’s a major point of my Ragnarok post.  I stand in solidarity with the Unite the Right, but, like Greg, believe things could have been done better.  “Mania to marginalize themselves “ – couldn’t say it better myself.


I agree – overcoming.  We need to overcome adversity.  Can Spencer and Greg Johnson overcome their feud and start working together?  That will be a real “white pill.”  Spencer and the Alt Right need some input from older, more experienced activists. Ironically enough, folks who attended, or supported, a rally called “Unite the Right” continue to criticize Counter-Currents.  Spencer should contact Greg and attempt to solve this problem.


Also, in the spirit of truth-telling, MW needs to acknowledge that perhaps one reason the Unite the Right event has been associated with the Alt Right is that the Alt Right itself has been giving that impression, see AltRight.com


Antifa declared as a terrorist organization.  Yes, indeed.  Who can do that? The “God Emperor” with nary a cross word for Antifa but who denounces “White supremacists?” “America’s Senator” who, while he is not being “beleaguered” by the “God Emperor,” is more interested in marijuana than in leftist violence?  That’s who to give your demands to. Good luck with that. Her converted majesty Ivanka says we all don’t belong in American society. That’s the Trumps.


And if Trump was really the alpha male “shiv-master” of rightist fantasy, he would now be on the rhetorical attack, instead of cowering in the White House like a bullied little fat kid, uttering platitudes to satisfy the bullies, and mulling sacrificing Bannon to appease the bullies.

“Baked Alaska” – he should sue the city of Charlottesville, and the state of Virginia, and the responsible “leadership.”  Maybe he should sue Trump and Sessions as well – we are ultimately responsible for failing to crack down on leftist violence since January.  Even when Trump’s own (elderly) supporters are attacked at mainstream Trump rallies he says or does nothing. Absolutely nothing.