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Sir MGTOW and the Yeastbuckets

Some sense.

With all the recent hysteria about “women in the movement,” all of the voluminous scribblings and yawn-inducing podcasts, I note that most miss the point that this latest explosion is no doubt at least in part a male reaction to the ongoing “sexual harassment” moral panic burning through the mainstream society.  Indeed, there is the daily auto da fe, in which some screeching yeastbucket, full of moral righteousness and supported by myriads of conformist robots, accuses some hapless man of looking at her the wrong way twenty years ago. To the stake!  Nobody escapes the Spanish Inquisition!

Now, having to put up with these hectoring harridans in the “normie” realm, activist men do not want to have to endure smug, smirking women, and their White Knight enablers, behaving as if they are the SJW HR Department of Der Movement, laying down the law to all of us knuckle-dragging male brutes on how we are to behave to Milady Mudshark, Ganges Girl, Flabby Philosocat, or any of the others.

The reason for the Type I Alt Right “bullying” (and, yes, I’m no fan of their Beavis-and-Butthead activities either) and the Type II Sallisian (intentionally comic, for the autistically obtuse among you) tirades is, frankly, we’ve had enough of female-to male moral posturing.  Why is that so difficult to understand?

Finally someone gets it!

No immunity from criticism.  Get it, Counter-Currents?  Accountability for all, including your delicate little ladies.  

I’m sure you disagree. Always got to side with “da wimmin” though, right?  

A cruder but nevertheless accurate observation on the same topic   (emphasis added):

Weimar Republican
Ah yes the old Philosofat, I mean cat, lecturing men about masculinity, along with the rest of these empty-headed e-sluts. If you idiots are too clueless to see that all these ‘based’ childless cat ladies represent nothing but a feminist coup, then this movement and the white race deserve to die. This tubby bitch gets less than 2k viewers a video and has the audacity to tell critics of feminism to leave the Alt-Right.
Dear White Knights, have some self-respect because nobody else respects you, including these mediocre 4s you are pretending are Aryan maidens in a meadow.
I’m gonna shout from the hills until I’m banned: women are the death of any movement. Look at what they are doing to leftism as we speak. They will spread their #MeToo coup here next. Stop being a bunch of spineless, thirsty beta-orbiters and open your fucking eyes before it’s too late.
Roy Moore was accused by Republican women voters. Women are not political. They side with whoever is the strongest at any given moment. Be strong and they will come on their own. Stop pandering to pussy.

“Mediocre 4s?”  No, no, a thousand times, no!  These are great beauties (the faces that launched a thousand charging White Knights), and obviously – quite obviously, let there be no doubt! – that any criticism of these charming maidens is only – solely! – because all we insecure men are secretly enraged that they refused to go to the high school prom with us.  

Johnson debates “Longshanks” – which a (very interesting) website asserts is a South Asian.  I do not know for sure whether or not the individual identified at that post is really the Aryan warrior “Sven” but if it is, it’s another in a long series of non-Whites pushing a narrative of ultra-purity for Whites, and one can only guess (don’t try too hard, it’s not that difficult) about the underlying motive. There’s not only this (alleged) fellow, but others as well: deranged mestizos (“Sallis’ sophistry”), snarky Iranians (for Aryans!  For Aryans!)…the list goes on.  And since these specimens know how to appeal to Type I Nutzis, there’s always a place for them at the table (no place for Sallis, of course).  Type I Nutzis are really a problem.  We Type II activists are the solution.

And then some female idiot at Counter-Currents, some inane commentator, says that MGTOW is worse than feminism.  Are you mad?  Feminism is one of the major weapons used by the System to destroy the White race and wreck Western civilization; MGTOW is simply a reaction to that.  Now, taken to extremes, MGTOW can be racially destructive (we need to reproduce, after all), but taken to moderation, it can be useful. Instead of White Knighting, and the sweaty pussy pedestalization of “game,” it can serve men well to be more aloof from women, shift the supply-demand curve more to the benefit of men, instead of being one-sided to the advantage of women.  If it comes down to Sir MGTOW vs. the Yeastbuckets, I side with the former against the latter.

And a side note: All these Alt Right guys getting all excited over “Hatreon” – don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.  Was it necessary to parody Patreon so obviously? Another example of Type I “movement” childishness.

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More on Der Movement’s White-Knighting

Part of the moral panic.

Another breathless White-knighting Counter-Currents article says:

This leads us to the current issue with the online abuse of Alt Right women. Yes, the victims are all women, but what’s more, they are attractive women, especially McCarthy and Southern. This, I believe, is the main reason why their male followers place unreasonable demands upon them, demands that they would not place on their male counterparts. This also explains why the emotional responses to their foibles or past indiscretions have been so heated and cruel. Through no fault of their own, these women have the tendency to make young, insecure men feel mean.

Maybe the mudshark Southern is attractive.  But McCarthy?  Are you serious?  These are omega male standards.  And guess what, not everyone criticizing them is “young” or “insecure.”  The current crop of Counter-Currents writers are at a low level of quality.  It’s truly embarrassing.

A good comment:

This wasnt attack on women in alt-right. This was attack against coalburning camwhore Southern who is not alt-right and only exploiting right wing men and Tara who came in her defense for no reason whatsoever and used feminist talking points to defend her.
I am sad to see counter-currents decided to publish this feminist article and I am deeply troubled by the collectivist response by women in alt-right. They closed ranks as if they personally were attacked. This kind of attack is something that would never work with men. I was never against women in alt-right, there is small minority of women who are capable, but this response has had me thinking.

Johnson’s telling Freudian slip (emphasis added to the original 12/13/17 version [in case it’s changed]):

When someone is attacking you with a knife, you are a fool to wonder if maybe he has a point to make. He’s trying to harm you. You need to stop him, not debate him. Once I glimpse malice and dishonesty in a person, I shit from debating to shutting him down.

Yeah, Greg, that’s exactly what you’re doing to the debate.

What I see as a problem in Counter-Currents’ latest hysteria in defense of ditzy females is that it is taking place in the context of the current “sexual harassment moral panic” that is burning down American society.  It seems to me there’s a connection here, the same type of “women are always right, XX chromosomes uber alles” mentality.  It may be true that the “trolling” was “over-the-top” but there have been reasonable comments on Counter-Currents from a pro-male position (see above), and we see the response: “shit from debating.”  Indeed.

Female Followup, 12/12/17

More precise points to be made.

Since this is an important topic, I’d like to follow up on my last post and get more into the “female question” with somewhat more seriousness and reflection.

Certainly, women have a place within racial nationalism.  It’s their race too.  But some points to ponder:

1. We can debate whether or not to accept reformed mudsharks (*) but certainly CURRENT mudsharks should be anathema.  Why should we even have to debate something so basic?

2. Women need to be held to the same standards as men with respect to handling the “rough and tumble” world of dissident politics.  We’ve all been insulted.  I certainly have been over the years (often in vulgar terms – remember Silver?), including being insulted by Johnson himself (questioning my sanity).  Certainly, there have been ethnic-based insults.  Whatever.  Johnson has been viciously attacked himself over his personal life.  Anyone of any prominence in the “movement” – even a lower-level person like myself – has been subjected to harsh criticism.  Deal with it ladies, or move on.  Don’t expect to be pampered- in the “movement” zoo, it’s not going to happen, the chimps are going to be flinging their turds around on a regular basis.

3. If I’m going to eschew male Alt Lighters and other nitwits, I’ll do the same for females as well.

Look, it’s a question of character; the basic problem with Der Movement, Inc. – besides the fossilized dogma – is a question of character.  There’s too much emphasis on quantity over quality, too much eagerness to accept anyone, any validation, any sign of acceptance, no matter how flawed and tainted.  I don’t care if a race-mixing female posing as some sort of nationalist has “hundreds of thousands of followers.”  If the person in question is of flawed character, then that’s just multiplication of the flaw.  That’s adding zeroes to an already corrupted number.

If that’s “misogyny” then so be it.

*The white-knighting riposte here would be: “what about Spencer, Anglin, and Enoch” (or some other male activist with a history of dating/marrying, say, Asians or Jews)?  Three points.  First, those are your heroes, not mine.  As far as I’m concerned the entire “movement” should be flushed down the toilet.  Second, why leave out Derbyshire?  He considers himself Alt Right, and as part of the VDARE crew, is dipping into “movement” largess.  Why does Derbyshire always get a free pass?  Third, like it or not, female miscegenation is more damaging since women are the bottlenecks for reproduction.  But, yes, I don’t excuse males who mix, but, fine, we can have an amnesty for the past.  This still doesn’t excise CURRENT miscegenation.

Behold the Female, 12/12/17

Who are the real bastards (and bitches)?

Over at Counter-Currents, Greg Johnson goes railing against all the “bastards” in the “movement” (including me I suppose); the latest firestorm set off in defense of a pair of ditzy female airheads that any man of sense, any rational and serious activist, wouldn’t spend one nanosecond of their time thinking about (and that goes for all the Type I Nutzis attacking the vagina-holes to begin with) (*).

Putting the XX chromosome flotsam and jetsam (redundancy?) aside, what about Johnson’s main arguments in his tirade?  I mean, yes, I agree with the general sentiment.  But Counter-Currents is part of the problem, not part of the solution.  What with the endless feuding with Richard Spencer, and then the thin-skinned hysterical reaction against your humble blogger here for insisting on “movement” accountability, isn’t it possible that some people view Counter-Currents in the same manner that Counter-Currents views all the other “bastards” out there?  Remember the biblical passage about motes and beams, and all that.

I think a lot of these attacks are simply motivated by financial jealousy. 

Oh, yes, indeed, I agree: many of the “movement” feuds and infighting are motivated by financial jealousy.  I can certainly think of famous “movement” feuds of like character, some fairly recent.  But that’s only among the panhandlers, the tin cuppers.  Some of us are not asking for any money.  

Lauren can spend her earnings on any frilly, silly, frivolous thing she wants. It is a mistake to allow donors to think that they own a piece of you and can attach strings to their gifts. I have fired donors who have tried to do that.

It is hard for me to express my level of utter disgust with this quote.  The arrogance is breathtaking.  Gimme dat money – but don’t tell me how to spend it!   God forbid that donors “attach strings” to their money like, you know, having it spent on activities related to – gasp! – actual racial nationalism. No, damgummint, if Lauren wants to spend donations on “frilly things” (the mind boggles) she has that right!  Other folks want to spend donor money on opera tickets or dog food, hey, who are you to say nay to that?  

Really, now, this is just too much.  “Fired donors?”  Some people in the “movement” have balls the size of Jupiter and Saturn, that’s for sure; I haven’t seen such purified chutzpah since the last gelfite fish convention.

And you suckers still give money to these people who are basically metaphorically giving you the middle finger with one hand while they grab your cash with the other.  You should only hope you get “donor fired.”  Then you can spend your own money on your own (hopefully non-frivolous) things.  After all, it’s your money.  You earned it.  Spend it wisely.

And yet another XX heroine writes:

First of all, it seems really suspicious that the He-Man Woman-haters Club has suddenly come out in full force, often hiding behind fake names and new accounts. These are not people who stick their necks out for our cause. They are spending huge amounts of time online trying to drive women away from our movement. Are these men really nationalists? I don’t think so. Many of them are probably infiltrators.

I hate being vulgar and Alt Right-like, but in this one special case, I’ll make an exception, channel my inner Beavis-and-Butthead, and reply thus: go fuck yourself, you dumb cunt.  I’ve been involved in racial nationalism when many of these “ladies of the movement” were infants or toddlers; I was involved in “meatspace” IRL analog activism back when these budding Joan-of-Arcs were wearing diapers, I sacrificed career advancement because of all the time and effort spent in producing “movement” content (including material for Counter-Currents, by the way), I went to meet the Great Sage on the Mountaintop when these female soldiers of glory were sucking their thumbs (back then, only their thumbs) pining away for Santa Claus (and not for their latest Colored boyfriend), but, hey, if I dare criticize any of these sacrosanct ladies then I’m an infiltrator.  Well, yes, I know that Counter-Currents has vast experience with infiltrators, but maybe, just maybe, all you heroes are wrong this time?

No, let’s go off “white knighting” for active mudsharks, giggling retards, pontificating “Chinese maidens,” smug “beauties” with a room temperature IQ, and whiners who assert that any criticism is from“infiltrators.”

Pathetic.


And for those of you who think my own (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) tirade is “excessive” I’ll simply point out that if Counter-Currents didn’t ban me from commenting, I could have made more mature and restrained ripostes at the actual blog post in question.  Being unable to do so, it would seem that the comic tirade here is a good way of attracting attention to my views on the matter. Granted, women can have a place in the “movement.”  The types of people Johnson defends we could do without, however.  There’s a big difference.  And the panhandling arrogance just grates on me. 


*Aren’t I wasting time thinking about them?  Only to answer Johnson’s post. I hardly know who any of these women are other than perhaps engaging with their content briefly out of curiosity before turning if off after I couldn’t take any more of the superficially silly stupidity.

Watch Out For That Closing Door

Have a nice trip.

Putting aside Derbyshire’s insistence that Jews are “White” – he needs to get together with Sailer and define “White” – the obvious riposte to Derbyshire is as follows. Can we make this retroactive?  Can we deport “Rosie” and “the kids?”  And you as well.  Please say yes. Thank you.  I’m sure China would thank you as well for your addition to their high, high, high-IQ population: Welcome to the Land of the (HBD) Gods.  And goodbye from America. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Traits of Ex-“Movement” Traitors

Misfits on the march.

I have been reading a number of leftist online journals, featuring interviews of “ex-neo-Nazis” and “reformed skinheads” etc., etc. etc.  You know the deal: former “racists” who “explain” what the “movement” is all about, and of course provide a completely misleading picture, because these traitorous misfits basically are talking about themselves and others of their ilk, which are one type of activist, and are not representative of activists as a whole, much less representative of the most dedicated and sincere among them.  In one sense, these people unwittingly are helpful as they are basically providing misinformation to our enemies, to the extent that the System believes that the pitiful confessions of the lowest sort of “activist” – essentially the “White trash” of the “movement” – somehow are informative to what racial nationalism is all about. It’s always good to be misunderstood and underestimated by your enemies; on the other hand, this misinformation does us harm to the extent that it is believed by those we wish to recruit, who will be misled and “turned off” by what they see and hear.  Are such scum really what racial nationalism is about?  Then why bother with the “movement?”

In any case, the misfit traitors have some characteristics in common, and it’s useful to understand these types – the ultra-defectives (as opposed to the “run-of-the mill” defectives that make up such a large base of “movement” activists) – so they can be avoided and eschewed.

Typically, those who “break with the movement” and show up at Vice or the Huffington Post or as travelling freakshow exhibits for “watchdog” groups are:

1. Relatively young; they haven’t been in the “movement” too long.

2. Highly defective on a personal level. These people are the archetypes of the “movement” activist stereotype – personal failures, “losers” in the fundamental sense of the word, angry at the world for their own inadequacies, and who join the “movement” to “have a sense of belonging.”  Since they themselves are characterized by these traits, and being limited in their mentality or not having the character to admit the fault is with themselves and not with the “movement” itself, they project their own inadequacies and reasons for becoming “activists” on racial nationalists in general.  Instead of admitting they speak only for themselves and their fellow freaks and misfits, they deign to assume that they are representative of everyone, ranging from a Jared Taylor to a Kevin MacDonald to a Richard Spencer to a Greg Johnson and, yes, to a Ted Sallis…all the way down to the cosplay players at street rallies.  

3. They are typically not college educated or, if they are so educated, they rarely get beyond an undergraduate degree.  They are far more likely to have spent time in prison than in a post-graduate school classroom.

4. These are almost always Type I activists: Nutzi types who swallow “movement” dogma for the “feel good” boost it gave them.  I’ve never heard of a former genuine Type II activist who repudiated their beliefs and gives breathless anti-racist interviews to leftist blogs or journals.

5. Ethnically, they are typical for the usual American Type I activist.  Personality wise, the same. 

6. They had no real ideological foundation whatsoever.  Having joined the “movement” for personal reasons, they had no intellectual, ideological, or moral underpinning for their beliefs; their racialism was a mile wide but an inch deep. All they had to do was meet “one caring Black person” and their “racialist convictions” went out the window.  What kind of idiots are these?  When was it a prerequisite for being a genuine racial nationalist to believe in the impossibility of finding a decent person of another race?  You see, these misfits actually represented in reality the stereotype of the “racist” as being someone consumed by hate, by negativism, rather than as someone with a progressive vision based on a deep understanding of Race, Culture, and Civilization.  Well, after all, as I’ve said, these are Type I activists, the types to have a Hitler tattoo and a penchant for Third Reich imagery, but never having heard the  names Francis Parker Yockey or Frank Salter before.  Only a fool with no deep ideological conviction could so blithely dismiss the reality of the racial crisis and the realities of Western decline and degeneration.  The tides of history don’t change because some random Negro was friendly to you.

7. They are hysterical and weak-minded, with no “measure” or sense of reality; thus they easily shift from one extreme to another.  I actually read one of these idiots claim that “White nationalists are already in power” because the civic nationalist cuck Trump (you know, the guy who supports affirmative action, has Jewish family connections, wanted DACA amnesty before the base kicked back, and who can’t get any significant portion of even his civic nationalist agenda – that is, whatever of it he hasn’t already abandoned – actualized into policy) was elected President, and because Bannon (another civic nationalist with an ideology even more superficial as what these misfits “believed” in) was briefly part of Trump’s national security team, and because Richard Spencer – who can’t show his face in public without having that face punched with impunity by leftist thugs supported by the System – was going to “run for office and win the election.”  Yeah, we’re still waiting for that last one.

Now, I can understand if a person, while remaining a racial nationalist at heart, drops out of the “movement” because of disgust with Der Movement, Inc. and its stupidities.  It would be better to attempt to build a New Movement, but that’s not for everyone, so I could understand quietly dropping out.  But to actually repudiate your beliefs?  And do so publicly? Any person who repudiates racial nationalism never really believed in racial nationalism to begin with.  To coin an Alt Right phrase, they were merely “LARPING.”  The demographic realities, the course of history, the clash of civilizations, racial conflict, High Culture, and genetic interests do not simply disappear because of an epiphany that some weak-minded person has when they realize that not every single Negro on Earth is a violent criminal.  In a very real sense, the term “former racialist” is an oxymoron, because the “former” implies that the person was never actually any sort of authentic racialist to begin with.  They were simply play-acting as a Nutzi as a cover for their own personal inadequacies.  We don’t need, and should not want, such people; as far as their repudiation goes, it’s addition by subtraction.

Der Stupidity, 12/9/17

More “movement” antics.

Richard Spencer (laughably) asserts that an obvious non-White mongrel like Markle can “pass for White or Italian” (those two categories being, obviously, separate and distinct).  The resident wop on the podcast, along with Spencer, ended up making a joke out of it all (one could almost hear Beavis and Butthead sniggering in the background), and the podcast went on, the small faux paus of ethnic fetishism gently skipped over with a chuckle, akin to adults smiling when a toddler innocently passes gas in public.

Very well, everyone is entitled to their opinions on racial phenotypes, just as they are entitled to the glasses or corrective eye surgery that they so sorely require.  The irony though is that while these fellows decry that the “conversation moves in only one direction” – focusing on the hypocrisy between royal mores of the 1930s compared to today – they themselves exhibit the same tendencies to follow rigid trains of thought. How about moving the conversation about racial phenotypes in other directions?  If accusations of “ethnic fetishism” are thought to be unfair, then when are we going to hear Der Movement discuss how David Bromstad looks more Asian than Yukio Mishima, or how Bjork can pass as a Japanese Geisha?  Blasphemy!  Blasphemy!  Time to vandalize the Bromstad Wikipedia page with new lies about a “Chinese mother,” no doubt.

Critiquing Der Movement once again, I note the absence so far (apart from this blog) of commentary about Donald “Saturated Fats” Trump, the vacuum cleaner scarfing up piles of junk food like any typical obese American land whale, and his slavishly pro-Jewish Jerusalem ploy.  America First?  Laughable.  But all the “movement” heroes no doubt don’t want to dwell too much on this, as it would focus unwanted attention on their unrequited Trump lovefest, and their incurable “man on white horse syndrome.”