Category: Orban

Odds and Ends, 4/4/20

In der news.

…it was during that high-speed chase that a trooper looked into the car and noticed that a dog was sitting in the driver’s seat.

When troopers were finally able to stop the speeding car with spike strips, the man told them simply that he was “trying to teach his dog how to drive.”

Was this the police officer?


What’s the relevance to EGI Notes? Just more evidence that America is a complete madhouse. One can expect more examples like this as American society breaks down under diversity.

Female athletics.  What’s the relevance to EGI Notes?  Exposing sex reality is important for the long term well-being of our people.

Behold Der Right.  The only question now is whether Der Right will be only partially discredited from this crisis or completely discredited.  Unfortunately, the former seems more likely.

It’s Der Right.  The basic problem with Der Right is its “culture” not its fundamental ideology.  By culture I mean the hysterically irrational, conspiracy-obsessed, anti-empiricist, anti-scientific, anti-expertise (”credentialism!”), distrust anyone, cherry picking  when to “fight for freedom”  in the worst possible circumstances, gaslighting stupidity.  Der Movement adds to that its fossilized dogmas, its affirmative action program, and even more hysteria about conspiracies and sweaty hysteria.  Hey idiots – the real conspiracies are race replacement and outsourcing our entire economy to China, not “microchips in vaccines.” The real conspiracies are the ones that are open and public and to which you provide no effective opposition.

It’s a right wing star!  Mazel Tov!  Oy vey!

Maybe Der Right should be worrying more about this than about “microchips in vaccinations” or about “Jew doctors sodomizing our babies with MMR needles and giving them autism.” But, no. You see, many of our rightist heroes and anti-vaxxers are themselves butterballs and this all hits too close to home, don’t you know. I seem to recall one prominent female anti-vaxxer in Der Movement whining several years ago about dating problems – men don’t like overweight women. That complaint tells us much, I think.

MacDonald and Durocher weep. Kemp has a nervous breakdown.

So Northern Europeans actually have a ton of the Middle Eastern ancestry that Nordicists have always looked down on. And while they still have some of their beloved European hunter-gatherer ancestry, it turns out that’s Asian-related. Furthermore, large parts of their Middle Eastern and Asian/Amerindian-type ancestries arrived long after Paleolithic and Neolithic times in the Bronze Age.

Of course, the same goes for Southern Europeans, but they generally have more of the older Neolithic farmer ancestry and less of the exotic “Asiatic” ancestries. And the originators of European civilization — Minoan and Mycenaean Greeks, as well as Etruscans and Romans — were genetically like modern Southern Europeans, not like modern Northern Europeans as the Nordicists have always claimed.

So in a pissing contest of who’s “more European”, playing by Nordicists’ own rules, Southern Europeans would have to be considered the “winners”.

But, hey, those exotic “Asian” ancestries are of great benefit to all humanity, and don’t your forget it!. Now, run along and borrow some chopsticks from Bromstad and Bjork.

Look while I don’t agree with Racial Reality/Italianthro on some things ( I oppose Medicism as much as I oppose Nordicism, and I critique wops and dagoes as much as anyone), he’s right here – the utter hypocrisy of Der Movement is neatly exposed by his post.

Don’t ever expect them to admit being wrong, especially about this.  See my post here.

Zturd is bursting with pride.


Attention Zturd (emphasis added):

…Helsloot fails to take into account the additional number of Italians who would have died without the suppression policy that he condemns. Also, even with the draconian nationwide lockdown in Italy, the coronavirus is far from subdued…Even Gerd Gigerenzer from the Max Planck Institute in Berlin, whom I admire for his excellent work on risk and uncertainty, fails to take into account the phenomenon of self-refuting propheciesdoesn’t pause to consider the effects of the actions that were taken by those authorities to forestall their worst predictions. 

One more example. Minimalists such as Richard Epstein at the Hoover Institute have cited the low case fatality rate of COVID-19 in South Korea and Singapore, which are precisely the places that have tested for the virus most extensively. Doesn’t this prove that we are overestimating the deadliness of the coronavirus and that we are panicking over nothing? No, because this argument ignores the fact that South Korea took the coronavirus threat very seriously right from the start…As the novelist Frank Herbert once said: “The function of sci-fi is not to predict the future, but to prevent it.” That leads us into a strange paradox: the better we manage to contain this pandemic, the less we will learn from it. Because there is one thing you can bet on for sure: as soon as this whole crisis blows over, the same minimalists will come forward and claim that it wasn’t as bad as the “fearmongers” had told us. Indeed, some of them are already busy committing that very fallacy.

SALLIS IS RIGHT ONCE AGAIN.  Finally, someone is admitting that biolab leak does NOT imply “bioengineered.”  Note the Chinatrix connection to all of this, perhaps explaining the hysterical fervor of the HBDers on this issue.  Psycho-sexual motivations are typically very potent, eh HBDers?  Doing some “measured groveling,” perhaps? 


Hungary vs. Sweden.  Come now, Swedish political leadership is obviously of great benefit – great benefit I tell you! – to all humanity, as opposed to all of those non-good Outer Hajnal Eastern European Hungarians.


Is Carlson reading Zturd?  I listened to what he said – it’s not as bad as Zturd, but it’s not entirely accurate either. It’s too early right now for either direction – certainly too early for Zturd’s “let the good times roll” and too early for Fauci’s “close everything down until there’s isn’t a single slant-eyed, yellow virus particle in America.” We need to get a clear understanding of viral spread in Red State America.  But, Carlson needs to consider what is linked above – it may be precisely all of the measures he worries about that are reducing infection rates in certain areas of the country.  It may be useful to hear from epidemiologists and infectious disease experts other than Fauci as well. Let’s get some consensus. My point is as well – what would Tucker do?  Let’s get some actual proposals. It’s easy to criticize. What should be done?

Der Questions for Der Movement

In all cases, emphasis added.

See this excellent and powerful Strom piece.  One part particularly caught my attention:

We need a strong, organized, racially conscious White community in every state, in every city. When we are much stronger, much larger, and much better organized, then even the most venal of politicians will be afraid to cross us. We will have businesses that bring in hundreds of millions per year, not just hundreds of thousands. We will have our own media providing not just racially-oriented news and commentary, but every kind of information and entertainment and advice and anything you can think of, in depth and with an implicit (and often explicit) pro-White perspective. That’s where we need to be. That’s what we need to do. In the words of the old union men who stood for White labor against Gilded Age leaders who betrayed their own Folk, we need to organize, organize, organize.

And National Alliance members are doing exactly that, all over North America.

I have some questions for Kevin Strom. These questions are coming from someone who has been involved in pro-White activism for a quarter-century, who has met your mentor Pierce, and who has praised you for the positive effect that your 1990s ADV broadcasts had on my activist development.  So this is not coming from a direction of hostility.

1. I understand that there may be things the National Alliance is currently doing that you cannot talk about publicly and – who knows? – maybe your group is really making the headway you claim.  But based on my experience with Der Movement, color me skeptical (no offense).  Do you really believe that your group is “doing exactly that” – all the things that you have described?  Really? Or that there is even the slightest possibility in the reasonable future that even the smallest fraction of these goals will be achieved?

2. With endless decades of “movement activism,” utilizing millions of dollars of donations and membership dues, and millions of man hours of effort, why hasn’t ANY of the above mentioned goals been even partially accomplished?  And that includes the efforts of Pierce and his incarnation of the National Alliance.  Are you aware that your other mentor, and friend, Revilo Oliver made a video discussing 50 years of “movement” failure…said video being made 50 years ago?

3. Why should we expect anything to be different now?

4. Do you admit that there is an ethnic affirmative action policy in the “movement,” particularly with respect to leadership, favoring individuals deriving from Northwest European (especially Anglo-Germanic) ethnic groups?

5. What has the National Alliance learned (if anything) from past failures?

Ethnonationalist filth attacking Spencer:

The majority of European nations, including the entire Schengen Area, and nations with nationalist governments, have banned Spencer and condemned his “racial European” message and his call for a “white racial empire”. While promoting his message in a controversial speaking tour in Hungary, Spencer was mocked by the Hungarian newspaper Népszabadság for his call for “a white Imperium” through a revival of the Roman Empire, and for his claim to be a “racial European”, ideas that the newspaper called contrived and without any basis in European history. In the aftermath of the controversy, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán pressed through legislative measures which banned his entry and condemned Spencer. The government of Poland has also banned him from entering the country and condemned Spencer, citing Spencer’s Nazi rhetoric, the anti-Polish and anti-Slavic racism of the Nazis, and the Nazis’ genocide of Slavic Untermenschen during World War II. In July 2018, Spencer was detained at Keflavík Airport in Reykjavík, Iceland en route to Sweden and was ordered by Polish officials to return to the United States; the successful effort of the Poles to ban Spencer from other parts of Europe arises from the Schengen Agreement.

The Hungarian newspaper was a leftist one, but Orban has no excuse, nor has the Polish government.  And remember what happened to Taylor. Has anyone noticed that, interestingly, divisive American ethnonationalists so far have had no problems traveling to Europe?

The Unz Review reader comment about Taylor and CNN:

Alfa158 says:

June 29, 2019 at 6:47 am GMT • 100 Words

Mr. Taylor is a gentleman and prone to the altruistic sentiments that plague Whites. Consider that Miss McGuirk started out by by making the implausible claim that although she is executive producer, she has no influence on the even the title of her own production.

It is entirely possible that she is another Lucy imploring Mr. Taylor to go ahead and kick the football because she won’t pull it away. Her role was to sweet talk him into walking into the abattoir.

I could be wrong, but consider this rather telling bit of evidence: if she was genuinely what she presented herself to, be a fair, impartial seeker of truth and discourse why would she be working for a cesspool like CNN? And why would the denizens of such a pit retain someone like her?

Then we have this, also from The Unz Review comments:

Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

June 29, 2019 at 3:36 pm GMT • 100 Words

White supremacism has been a tool of those who seek to subvert Christianity. Any greatness of Europe and the West is due to Christianity and to think otherwise is an abominable blasphemy. Had Christianity taken root in the heart of Africa or India rather than Europe and the West we would have had a flourishing of Africa and India for the past 1500 years and Europe and the West would still be barbarian.

Now, initially I thought this was just sarcasm or amusing trolling.  However, considering how deranged devout Christians are, it may be for real.  Who knows?  

SLC News, 4/10/18

In der news.

Another victory for farstreaming: Chickenwire Vic wins again.

Read this.

Orban moves ever more to the Right, and goes from strength to strength.  Jobbik engages in centrist mainstreaming, and achieves results so modest they are equivalent to a moral defeat.

There is in fact NO evidence whatsoever that mainstreaming works as an effective electoral strategy.  Quite the opposite: mainstreaming usually ends in humiliating defeat, while prudent farstreaming, in the right circumstances, yields the desired results.

Mainstreaming, just like the “gateway hypothesis,” is one of those ideas that sounds reasonable in theory, but has not a single shred of empirical evidence to back it up.   

More anti-White animus displayed by the Yellow Fist of Hatred.  No worries though.  According to the Silkers. These disgruntled Asiatrices will be “the border guards of the West.” All they have to do is let their natural black hair color shine through, pick up their trusty rifle, and start ordering about mewling White manlets.  It’s all good!

Don’t forget that borderline retarded cuck nagger Roissy predicted that Bezos would turn “hard right” politically because Bezos looks “jacked” after working out.  After all, as we know, every single male with a muscular physique (or what passes for it) is a budding Nutzi, that’s how political affiliations are formed.

Yes, I agree, what Nehlen did was unforgiveable,  But what caught my eye was this”

Then in 2018 (several weeks after my Wage the Battle review), Jared Taylor distanced himself from him. Initially Nehlen had been invited to speak at the 2018 American Renaissance conference. But after taking a close look at Nehlen’s campaign, Taylor disinvited him from speaking (but not from the conference). Nehlen responded by embargoing the conference altogether and making a big stink about it on social media.
For me, that’s when the cracks in the dam began to appear. Sure, Nehlen had his supporters, many of whom accused Taylor of cucking to the Jews. But other voices began to pop up. Nehlen’s campaign does lack a certain amount of class. Maybe Taylor was put off by that. Nehlen does kind of beat a dead horse with the Jew thing as well. Maybe that made Taylor uncomfortable. Nehlen also had some nice things to say about Louis Farrakhan, didn’t he? That certainly wouldn’t fly at Amren. So maybe Taylor wasn’t completely out of his mind by disinviting him. Furthermore, Nehlen certainly could have handled it better. He could have realized that the JQ simply isn’t Taylor’s thing…

Yeah, sure, it was about Farrakhan, which is why Amren itself endorsed Farrakhan’s Black separatism.

Why can’t the “old boys network” be honest and just admit the disinvitation of Nehlen was mainly – likely only – for one reason?

In the Alt Wrong hierarchy, Jews (and Asians) are right there at the top, certainly valued much more than grossly inferior groups like Romanians and Italians.  What’s the chance that an anti-White ethnic activist would be disinvited from the conference?  

Political EGI VII: Orban’s Speech

Analyzing excerpts from an Orban speech.

I’ve been critical of Orban, but with his continued farstreaming and Jobbik’s continued mainstreaming, Orban may now represent the “far right” of Hungarian politics.  In addition, while I am dissatisfied with the more “implicit” aspects of Orban’s rhetoric, we must understand the limitations – de jure and de facto – for open, free speech in Europe, and the constraints that an elected political leader in the EU has in speaking the truth. Nevertheless, let us take a critical look at Orban’s public utterances.

There are three areas in which it is not enough to support processes, but in which we need a shift in scale, and the move to a fast track. One area is demography, in which we haven’t even reached a break-even point. It is some improvement that for married couples – or male-female couples in general – the fertility indicator expressing the nation’s demographic situation has risen from 1.2 to 1.44 children per couple, and this is promising, but 1.44 is still very far from 2. In order to feel safe demographically, the average statistical ratio of children to Hungarian couples should be 2.1. In practice this is hard to implement, but this is the average figure we should have. Until we reach that point, Hungarians must be seen as an endangered species demographically; and the people – but the Government above all – should understand the imperative which is implicit in this…

Obviously, any appeal to increasing native birthrates has a fundamental underlying foundation of genetic interests.  Using the term “endangered species” to describe any White group borders on ethnic/racial nationalism and is wholly a biological argument.  That may be as close as Orban currently believes he can approach the problem from the genetic standpoint.

…If we speak about a strong country, we must also mention public security. Today this means two things in particular: defence of the borders, and the ability to prevent terrorist attacks. There is no strong culture without a cultural identity.

Culture is of course important, but secondary to ultimate, genetic, biological interests.  Even better phrased: the biological and the cultural are intertwined and influence each other.

However much of a taboo one is breaking by saying it, there is no cultural identity in a population without a stable ethnic composition. The alteration of a country’s ethnic makeup amounts to an alteration of its cultural identity. A strong country can never afford to do something like that – unless some global catastrophe forces it to do so.

Yes, very good.  But – and this is crucial – a change in a country’s ethnic makeup should constitute a problem – indeed, THE problem – itself, and not just because it affects “cultural identity.”  Here, Orban places culture as the ultimate interests, and the ethnic makeup as a proximate concern that affects the ultimate one; whereas it should be the other way around. If it was somehow possible to preserve a Hungarian cultural identity even with population replacement – would that be alright to the likes of Orban?  The reply would be that such a situation would be impossible, but that’s not the point.  It is a thought experiment to explore, identify, and define priorities. Ethnicity or culture?  

Note I have no problem in invoking culture to defend ethnic genetic interests, nor do I lack understanding of the complexities that come with European speech laws and various other de jure and de facto restrictions.  But with Orban cutting so close to the edge here, one has to note the possibility that he sincerely places culture first, and is not only speaking this way out of necessity (which would obviously be more acceptable).

Over the next few decades the main question in Europe will be this: will Europe remain the continent of the Europeans? Will Hungary remain the country of the Hungarians? Will Germany remain the country of the Germans? Will France remain the country of the French? Or will Italy remain the country of the Italians? Who will live in Europe? 

That’s the ultimate existential question.  It is good that Orban is mentioning specific ethnic groups as the rightful inhabitants of specific nations – asking WHO will live in Europe. That is an EGI-loaded question.

This is a historical question which we must face up to today. As regards the specific situation – and this is quite telling about the world that we live in today – there’s no concrete, reliable information on the percentages of traditional indigenous Christians and the incoming Muslim communities living in Europe’s individual countries. In practice it is forbidden to gather information like this. And the data which is gathered is not adequate for us to predict what the future holds for us, as migrants, immigrants, are not evenly distributed throughout the different age groups. So the general figures say little about what awaits us. We should focus most on people under the age of 15, and also those between 15 and 45. From those figures we can project, we can calculate, what the situation will be like in each country in, say, 2050.

Looking ahead, unlike most politicians.  When you farstream, you are forced in that direction; conversely, when you mainstream, you are forced away from that direction. 

Naturally, when considering the whole issue of who will live in Europe, one could argue that this problem will be solved by successful integration. 

No, that’s exactly what we should NOT argue.  It doesn’t matter if aliens “integrate” – or, better yet, we do not want them and their alien genes to integrate.  We do not want them in our nations, carrying their alien genes, unintegrated either.  We do not want them at all.

The reality, however, is that we’re not aware of any examples of successful integration. It’s obvious that migration is not the answer to economic problems and labour shortages.

That’s true even if integration were to be successful.  “Economic problems and labor shortages” are not an excuse for genocidal race replacement.  The natives do not prosper by a “strong economy” when they are replaced by other peoples.  The Alt Right has correctly pointed out the Establishment hypocrisy: on the one hand, we must “save the environment” by having less children; on the other hand, we must import immigrants because Europeans don’t have enough children to “support the economy.”

Interestingly, people in Europe are least concerned about migrants taking their jobs. This probably reflects some form of personal experience.

If proximate concerns like that can motivate a defense of ethnic interests, fine, but of course the problem is much deeper than personal experience and personal grievance about job opportunities.

I can believe there are desperate situations, just like a castaway on the ocean finally giving in to the urge to drink seawater: it’s water, but it doesn’t quench one’s thirst, and only adds to the problem. This is more or less the situation in which those who want to cure their economic ills with immigrants will find themselves. In countering arguments for successful integration, we must also point out that if people with diverging goals find themselves in the same system or country, it won’t lead to integration, but to chaos. It’s obvious that the culture of migrants contrasts dramatically with European culture. Opposing ideologies and values cannot be simultaneously upheld, as they are mutually exclusive. To give you the most obvious example, the European people think it desirable for men and women to be equal, while for the Muslim community this idea is unacceptable, as in their culture the relationship between men and women is seen in terms of a hierarchical order. These two concepts cannot be upheld at the same time. It’s only a question of time before one or the other prevails.

Again, if these proximate concerns motivate ethnic defense, fine, but it obscures the question. If these migrants were 100% on board with current liberal European values, if they were seamlessly integrating, would race replacement – genocide – be alright then? We should be thankful they are not integrating well, that the experience for Europeans is painful enough to motivate ethnic defense. As Salter has written, the only thing worse than a multiculturalism that does not work is one that does.  How about talking about European ethnic-racial existence, rather than just culture?  I understand the practical implications for speech in Europe, but one could invoke the language of kin and family here.

Of course one could also argue that communities coming to us from different cultures can be re-educated. But we must see – and Bishop Tőkés also spoke about this – that now the Muslim communities coming to Europe see their own culture, their own faith, their own lifestyles and their own principles as stronger and more valuable than ours. So, whether we like it or not, in terms of respect for life, optimism, commitment, the subordination of individual interests and ideals, today Muslim communities are stronger than Christian communities. Why would anyone want to adopt a culture that appears to be weaker than their own strong culture? They won’t, and they never will! Therefore re-education and integration based on re-education cannot succeed.

Again, it is better that it does not succeed.  Stop talking only in terms of culture for godssakes.  There is room for rhetorical maneuver here, using careful language.  Why should Europeans be race replaced, regardless of “culture and integration?”

…there is a Soros plan. It comprises four points. He wrote it down himself, the Soros Empire published it and began recruitment for implementation of the plan. The plan says that every year hundreds of thousands migrants – and, if possible, a million – should be brought into the territory of the European Union from the Muslim world. The second point is that upon arrival every one of them should be given an amount in euros equivalent to four and a half million forints. The author of the plan would gladly finance this – but that is secondary, although it’s something that’s worth pondering. However, it’s not this, it’s not the business profit that’s the essence of the proposal, but the fact that in this way it’s possible to maintain a continuous influx. So those who want at least a million migrants to come in every year must maintain this mechanism – which in European political terminology is called a “pull factor” – so that they continue to come. And if they distribute them and everyone receives a sum – which is, in fact, higher than the Hungarian annual average wage – there won’t be a problem with reduced flow. The third point in the Soros plan is that the migrants arriving on the continent will have to be distributed among the countries of Europe as part of a mandatory and permanent mechanism.

Soros is of course a “HuWhite man of the West,” right?

A shrewd speaker should approach Universalist, faux-rationalist liberal Europeans and make the argument:

1. Universalism means that all peoples should have the same rights and should be cared for the same

2. You Universalists assert that genocide is wrong and you champion indigenous rights

3. Therefore, you must oppose European genocide – even auto-genocide – and champion the rights of indigenous Europeans

Of course, the Left, and much of the lemming-like masses, would reject such an overt argument, but that would force them to admit an irrational, inconsistent, hypocritical, anti-European worldview.