Best ignore but if you cannot ignore then answer.
I sometimes get forwarded links to the Nordicist imbecility of Twitter trolls; the usual flotsam and jetsam about Italians, Greeks, and other Southern Europeans being non-White “People of Color,” with the typical song-and-dance about Ancient Greeks and Romans being “Nordic” and subsequently mongrelized with alien migrants and slaves to yield the present “colored” populations.
I am not on Twitter and have no desire to be, and my advice to those people who are on Twitter and who read such tweets is that they should ignore them. However, if they cannot ignore them, then they should answer them. I cannot see the utility of fuming over such posts and sharing them and getting excited over them unless you intend to actually do something about it. Again, the best thing to do is to ignore mentally deficient ethnic fetishists, whose pathetic lives are so empty that they have literally nothing else to do but obsess, with beads of sweat forming on their foreheads, over Italians, Greeks, etc. Answering will be a waste of your time since there is, literally, nothing, no amount of data and argument, that would ever make these obsessives change their minds on these issues; their ideology is a combination of blind religious dogma coupled to a deep psychological need to compensate for extreme personal inadequacy. You can patiently outline mountains of data, they will simply ignore it and repeat the same tired lies over and over again, and/or cherry pick completely distorted misunderstandings of isolated data points to “prove” their case, again ignoring the mountain of data refuting their nonsense. That they continue with their imbecility even after all of the population genetics and archaeogenetics papers that have come out – papers that likely underestimate reality because of the biases of population geneticists (who have an agenda to “prove” historical admixture in Europe to justify the current immigration invasion) – clearly demonstrates that retards are impervious to facts and to reality. Ignore them. But if don’t have the discipline to ignore, then answer. For example, thus:
European genetic variation tracks with geography, including in Southern Europe, and the data clearly show that Italian, Greek, Iberian, etc. samples are “located” in PCA precisely where one would expect based on this pattern; these peoples are not found among Middle Easterners, North Africans, etc.
Ancient Greeks and Romans were not Nordic and were more similar to modern Southern Europeans than to modern Northern Europeans.
With respect to phenotype, modern Italians are at least as “fair” – if not more so – than Iron Age/Republic Roman samples.
The genetic structure of Europe, in net terms, has been relatively stable over the last 3,000 years despite a high degree of population mobility.
[Emphasis added] “We found that most regions show remarkable inter-individual heterogeneity. Around 8% of historical individuals carry ancestry uncommon in the region where they were sampled, some indicating cross-Mediterranean contacts. Despite this high level of mobility, overall population structure across western Eurasia is relatively stable through the historical period up to the present, mirroring the geographic map. We show that, under standard population genetics models with local panmixia, the observed level of dispersal would lead to a collapse of population structure. Persistent population structure thus suggests a lower effective migration rate than indicated by the observed dispersal. We hypothesize that this phenomenon can be explained by extensive transient dispersal…”
How does net stability square with periods of mobility and resettlement of intrusive peoples? Intrusive alien population elements – that were also present in Western and Central Europe by the way and that were not as populous as some would have you believe – typically were not permanent additions to their new areas of residence. For the most part they were not reproducing themselves in situ (and the small minority that did reproduce were assimilated into the far larger mass of native peoples). Cosmopolitan urban populations crashed after the Germans destroyed the Classical Civilization, and these areas were eventually repopulated with native stocks. Thus, despite periods in which certain areas of Europe (for example, the broader Roman world) saw some degree of an influx of alien peoples, these intrusive elements were for the most part a temporary, not a permanent, addition to the human environment, and they were for the most part themselves replaced. The net result was minimal change.
The genetic diversity of extant Europeans, and the differences between European types (including Asian/Siberian admixture in Northern Europe) was for the most part established by the end of the Neolithic and was essentially completed by the end of the Bronze Age, preceding the Classical Civilization. Differences of, say, Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe, Western Europe vs. Eastern Europe, Northern Italy vs. Southern Italy, etc. are derived from ancient Neolithic and Bronze Age population movements that are all part of the indigenous ethnogenesis of the European peoples and thus are all part of the indigenous European gene pool.
Stop lying, liars.
This entire post can be linked as an answer or the following copied and pasted:
European genetic variation tracks with geography, including in Southern Europe, and the data clearly show that Italian, Greek, Iberian, etc. samples are “located” in PCA precisely where one would expect based on this pattern; these peoples are not found among Middle Easterners, North Africans, etc.
See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18758442/
Ancient Greeks and Romans were not Nordic and were more similar to modern Southern Europeans than to modern Northern Europeans:
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2018/01/mycenaeans-and-italians.html
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2019/11/ancient-roman-dna.html
https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2020/10/ancient-to-modern-genetic-distances.html
With respect to phenotype, modern Italians are at least as “fair” – if not more so – than Iron Age/Republic Roman samples.
See: https://italianthro.blogspot.com/2019/12/pigmentation-through-roman-history.html
The genetic structure of Europe, in net terms, has been relatively stable over the last 3,000 years despite a high degree of population mobility:
From this paper: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.15.491973v1.article-metrics
“We found that most regions show remarkable inter-individual heterogeneity. Around 8% of historical individuals carry ancestry uncommon in the region where they were sampled, some indicating cross-Mediterranean contacts. Despite this high level of mobility, overall population structure across western Eurasia is relatively stable through the historical period up to the present, mirroring the geographic map. We show that, under standard population genetics models with local panmixia, the observed level of dispersal would lead to a collapse of population structure. Persistent population structure thus suggests a lower effective migration rate than indicated by the observed dispersal. We hypothesize that this phenomenon can be explained by extensive transient dispersal…”
Reviewed here: https://eginotes.wordpress.com/2022/05/24/stable-european-population-structure/
How does net stability square with periods of mobility and resettlement of intrusive peoples? Intrusive alien population elements – that were also present in Western and Central Europe by the way and that were not as populous as some would have you believe – typically were not permanent additions to their new areas of residence. For the most part they were not reproducing themselves in situ (and the small minority that did reproduce were assimilated into the far larger mass of native peoples. Cosmopolitan urban populations crashed after the Germans destroyed the Classical Civilization, and these areas were eventually repopulated with native stocks. Thus, despite periods in which certain areas of Europe (for example, the broader Roman world) saw some degree of an influx of alien peoples, these intrusive elements were for the most part a temporary, not a permanent, addition to the human environment, and they were for the most part themselves replaced. The net result was minimal change.
Also consider: https://eginotes.wordpress.com/2022/06/16/more-popgen-june-2022/
The genetic diversity of extant Europeans, and the differences between European types (including Asian/Siberian admixture in Northern Europe) was for the most part established by the end of the Neolithic and was essentially completed by the end of the Bronze Age, preceding the Classical Civilization. Differences of, say, Northern Europe vs. Southern Europe, Western Europe vs. Eastern Europe, Northern Italy vs. Southern Italy, etc. are derived from ancient Neolithic and Bronze Age population movements and changes that are all part of the indigenous ethnogenesis of the European peoples and thus are all part of the indigenous European gene pool.
Stop lying, liars.
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