Category: Greg Johnson

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In der news.

Greg Johnson:

Our movement is small, fragile, and easily demoralized. Allowing ourselves to become excited by transparent fakes only lays the foundation for another demoralizing failure.

Hmmm..ya think?  Maybe you guys can stop with the Man on White Horse Syndrome, including one “leader” (Who?  Who was it?  Who? Let us think real hard) breathlessly worrying that the new American Caesar Trump was going to make major improvements in American demographics, thus stabilizing the System and making WN more difficult in the long run.

Alert, alert: monumental lack of self-awareness.  And speaking of transparent fakes: Patrik Hermansson?  Dave Lewis?

And the whole Counter-Currents hostility toward Tommy Robinson is tiresome.  I could care less about Robinson, but that’s the point.  I’m not going to waste time going in that direction, either pro or con.  Is it that some folks get disturbed when the attention (and, hence, the shekels) flow away from them and toward someone else?

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In Der News, 6/16/18

Some news.

Greg Johnson:

Mainstreaming is not the path to political success.

Indeed, it is not.  There’s more in the podcast attacking mainstreaming, none of which will surprise readers of this blog, since the crazed Ted Sallis has been making these same points for years, including at the time when Counter-Currents featured breathless podcasts of Johnson and Le Brun concerning Ms. Le Pen’s mainstreaming heroics and her electoral chances (and we all know how that turned out).

So, two lessons in all of this:

1. Mainstreaming is a recipe for political failure.

2. If you want to know the cutting edge of Far Right thought, read EGI Notes.  You’ll read here first what others belatedly realize weeks, months, or years later.

Rodney Martin’s good sense:

There is INSUFFICIENT Base Support (Resources) in the existing Political & Social dynamic to USE to build a Pro-White “traditional” political Movement that PARTICIPATES in the EXISTING System.
We MUST stand apart & build our own, they may mock us as the Masses mocked Noah as he built the Ark. But when the time comes, like Noah, we DON’T let them in.
We MUST understand that we will NOT build Mass Support and over take the EXISTING System.
We MUST give up on the temptation for instant gratification and embrace the virtue of patience, planning, preparing and building.
We MUST understand that NO ONE need know what we are doing.  Media whoring is a vice that has proved deadly.
We MUST ACCEPT that we will NOT take OUR Country Back, anymore than we can bring our favorite Grandfather back from the dead.
We MUST NOT be “Average Americans”
We MUST be a brotherhood without regard to perceived economic, social or  intellectual standing.   There can be NO “Classism”
We MUST ACCEPT the fact that NOT ALL “White People” are “White”.
We MUST REALIZE we CAN do MORE with LESS.
We must choose Quality OVER Quantity
WE DEFINE who we are by fully defining who we are NOT, and who we will NOT accept.
There is nothing wrong with the concept of our own “Community”, it has yet to be built.

Amren hero Seth Grossman.  He’s…HuWhyte!

Roissy whines:

Where is Jeff Sessions in all this? High treason occurs under his nose and…wtf is he doing about it? Waiting to pounce when the time is right? Jeff, the midterms are just months away; you don’t have much time left to make a move before a horde of screeching anti-American mystery meats and pussyhatters take the lower chamber.

Hey, I thought that “Sessions as Attorney General alone justifies Trump’s election?”  Don’t you know that “America’s Senator” is just doing what he does best: standing around helplessly looking dumbfounded?

It’s interesting how both Sessions and Giuliani, under Trump’s employ, represent ethnic stereotypes.  Sessions – so restrained he’s practically inert; Giuliani – bombastically undisciplined, rolling around like a loose cannon, shelling his own side as much as his opponent.

Movement Good Old Boy Mafia

One of the boys.

Notice the mention, and link to, Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents.  I am sure readers of EGI Notes can think of certain blogs dealing with race, science, immigration, politics, etc. that go unmentioned by Der Movement, Inc.  Now, you may argue, goodwhite Derbyshire can hardly be expected to link to blogs or blog writers who have been sharply critical of him.  It’s only natural.

That’s some low information moralizing, friends.  The following are some of Johnson’s characterizations of Derbyshire made at the Counter-Currents blog (emphasis added):

Derbyshire, by the way, is not a White Nationalist at all. He is a conservative cognitive elitist who is married to a Chinese woman and has two non-white children. Beyond that, he has attacked White Nationalists in the most scurrilous terms, referring to AmRen attendees as “latrine flies” and attacking Kevin MacDonald on the most swinish possible grounds. It is only when this sucking up to Jews and centrists failed to save him from the charges of racism that he began to associate with White Nationalists, who were all too willing to cross his palm with silver. Frankly it is disgusting that the donations of White Nationalists are being sluiced into the pockets of this opportunist.

2. RE Derbyshire. Yes, every dog should get one bite. But Derbyshire has been at it long enough to show his agenda. Of course, Derbyshire has “grown” a bit in recent years. At one time, he referred to Am Ren attendees as “latrine flies.” But he changed his tune after Jared Taylor crossed his palm with silver. He’s a fox in the henhouse, eating the lunches of genuine pro-whites.

I first learned of Derbyshire when he penned his critique of Kevin MacDonald and his defense of the craven philosemitism of National Review. That was all I needed to know. He is a loathsome individual, and I avoid his work completely.

You were saying?

Now, in actuality, I agree with Johnson that Derbyshire is a “loathsome individual” and I would go further and say VDARE is a loathsome blog.  They have an agenda that is not compatible with pan-European racial nationalism and therefore their behavior is to be expected.  However, the point is not that the Alt Wrong should be citing the genuine Far Right, the point is simply to demonstrate that there really is a “one of the boys” network – a “mafia” if you will – within the “movement” in which affirmative action recipients, despite harsh attacks against one another, will still consider each other “one of the boys” while those outside the quota system are not.  As Der Movement (hypocritically) likes to say about affirmative action when it is used by the System to favor Negroes and other Coloreds – affirmative action is corrosive of merit, of accomplishment, of quality. Endless decades of “movement” failure are thus explained.  That is the point.

SLC News, 5/29/18

It’s…Der Movement!

Strom just doesn’t get it.  Doesn’t he know that Jews are HuWhyte (and high IQ too!) and the real threat is from greasy Afrowops and those Romanians dancing the hora (long may it turn).  After all, that’s what the HBD race realist HBDers tell us, so it must be right.  Right?

With respect to Robinson, I suppose a riposte to Strom is this, and a riposte to that is this comment.

If the comment is correct, does that make Greg Johnson a “low information moralizer?”  Now, true enough, Johnson replies in the post thread to other similar comments.  There is a legitimate case to be made that Robinson was acting stupidly, and is not a martyr to free speech.  But something about all of this strikes me the wrong way – perhaps it is Johnson’s alacrity for “punching right” combined with his “glass jaw” whenever someone throws a rhetorical punch of criticism in his own direction. I also suppose that too much “movement” concern for Robinson would take away from concern for, and donations to, Counter-Currents, and we certainly can’t have that.

And why the disparaging attitude toward the idea of a White “chimp-out?”  Forget about Robinson, there should have been an England-wide “chimp-out” by the native stock over the whole sex grooming scandal.  Indeed, if Whites started “chimping-out” instead of “cucking-out” much of what is happening to them would not occur.

Loyalty to our team is admirable. But our first loyalty should be to our cause. And if people bring our cause into disrepute, we need to call them on it.

But if you “call” Johnson on something, he’ll “ban” you from his blog.  Sorry, but my loyalty is to the cause, and the cause is not advanced by having an anti-racist infiltrator welcomed with open arms into “extreme vetted” meetings for reasons that essentially support all my criticisms of Der Movement, and then have the selfsame infiltrator mockingly (in retrospect for you, in real time for him) give a talk at the meeting about the dangers of infiltrators.  And that followed by equally ludicrous further infiltratiors.

White advocates have the whole system against us. Our only allies are truth and justice. Our greatest source of credibility is speaking the truth and defending justice.

“Spectral” ideas of how the “pyramids of Atlantis” were built by “psychokinesis” is not truth. “Movement” antics are not justice.

The Alt Wrong crows that atheists are cringing subhumans with a high mutation load.  Unfit they are!  Maladaptive!  Indeed, atheists are obviously not the adaptive, racially aware, and clear-sighted-on-race EGI dynamos as is the well-known religious individual, shown kneeling, dressed in white.

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement marches on.

A Dire Spectral Vision

Latest “movement” tragicomedy.

New from Counter-Currents!

Take that, Arktos and Richard Spencer!  Meanwhile, Counter-Currents continues to pretend that Bolton’s Yockey biography doesn’t exist.

Absolutely disgusting.

John Doe
Posted May 25, 2018 at 4:26 am | Permalink
Great to see that Jorjani is working with Counter-Currents and getting away from the unfortunate elements of the “movement”.

Let’s not forget this from that Swedish Counter-Currents forum speaker, Patrik Hermansson:

I manage to convince Jason Reza Jorjani, co-founder of AltRight Corporation and editor of Arktos Media, to meet for a drink. I’m sitting across from him in an Irish pub in the shadow of the Empire State Building. The first thing he said was: “You’re not in touch with Greg [Johnson], are you?”

I assure him I’m not, knowing he would leave if he ever found out I had spent the last month getting to know people on the other side of the split, some of whom had recently accused Jorjani of being a CIA agent. “It’s like the SA and the SS,” Jorjani said. “A Night of the Long Knives is coming though.”

Now Jorjani and Johnson are buddies again, because…Richard Spencer.

 

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement marches on.

Further, it is highly disturbing that the likes of Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer fail to understand the damage done to serious racial nationalism by their enabling of someone who peddles pseudoscientific nonsense and gnostic “traditionalist” fantasies.  Do they really think intelligent, well-read, educated, empiricists want to be associated with “the pyramids of Atlantis were built by psychokinesis?”  The Spectral!  The Spectral! (Theme music from Ghostbusters playing in the background).

The domination of the “movement” by Type I activists was, is, and remains an unmitigated tragedy.  They have no sense whatsoever, no common sense, no innate “feel” for what any reasonably same person would consider appropriate or inappropriate.  “Normies” will think racial nationalism – or ethnic nationalism for you knuckle-dragging ethnonationalists – is strange enough, if you are going to combine it with crazed ramblings fit for a D-grade sci/fi-fantasy novel, then forget about it. The System continuously tries to associate racial activism with pseudoscience and fantasy.  How much easier for them when Der Movement actually does exhibit those tendencies and taints the honest efforts of others.

High-Information Moralizing

And some very important questions at the end.

Consider some of the comments here.

CounterCurrentsTV

CounterCurrentsTV

2 days ago (edited)

You are one of the dishonorable Orc shills that I mentioned in the podcast. Shame on you.

“Orc.”  Apparently, Johnson wrote that “snug in his hobbit hole” out in the forest, where there is “de facto anarchy,” as opposed to the “centralized authority” of the capital.  Lots of maturity there.  I suppose at some point an analysis needs to be done about this whole Lord of the Rings fetish.  Is it an ethnic/subracial thing?  Or just the Type I/Type II divide?

Will to Power

Will to Power

2 days ago (edited)

@CounterCurrentsTV Good to know that you and many others prioritize putting personal vendettas and petty squabbling ahead of what’s in the best interests of the movement. Let’s be honest here, because that’s what this is. Granted I’m not privy to private conversations, but from an outsider’s perspective this looks appalling on your end. And before you go ahead accusing me of being a Spencer shill as well, I’m not. There is a nuanced position to take in this whole affair, and Millennial Woes embodies that perfectly. I don’t have any particular favoritism in this scenario and I really like the both of you two. That’s the case for many people, I’m sure, which is what makes this whole situation so regrettable. Spencer isn’t going anywhere, you’re not going anywhere, Alt-Hype isn’t going anywhere, so the sooner you all come to terms with that reality and restore relations, at least to the point where you don’t dread crossing paths at conferences, the better the movement will be for it. In other words, please pluck your fucking stubborn heads from your behinds, because this is all becoming extremely distasteful.

 

CounterCurrentsTV

CounterCurrentsTV

2 days ago

You don’t recall, huh? Perhaps you should inform yourself before you engage in this kind of low-information moralizing.

There we go again with his favorite phrase “low-information moralizing.”  In my case, I have recently attempted to increase the information content of my moralizing by reading material on, and listening to podcasts on, all the moronic “movement” feuds, scandals, and personal problems, including, but not limited to, such wonderfully moralizing things as “ghoulish” bodypart photos, “fashy” facebook groups, whether or not “movement” celebrities are or are not Jewish, etc., and I have to say that after diving into the “movement” sewer that I prefer to be “low information” thank you very much. Some types of information can’t be unseen or unlearned.  By the way, Der Movement Inc. is so utterly and despicably disgusting that anyone involved in it has no right to cast aspersion on its critics. Clean up your own house first.

Disappointed Englishman

Disappointed Englishman

1 day ago

Richard has admitted that the campus speech tour approach was a mistake — but don’t forget these speeches were at one point quite successful, so it is only since Charlottesville that they became too difficult to do. He is not vainglorious, and he is the public face of the Altright. I accept Greg in the movement, as long as he knuckles down under Richard Spencer and Greg Conte.

Disappointed Englishman

Disappointed Englishman

1 day ago

I wonder if I am the one in this thread labelled an Orc Shill by GJ (Hail, Johnson! Hail Victory!) Look I’ve acknowledged that GJ is a good white identitarian doing a lot of good stuff – I just called for him to drop the vendetta against RS. Indeed this is part of the reason why gay leaders are inadvisable — they bring personal cattiness and bitchiness with them. GJ is demonstrating, personally, the very reason why he should not be “the leader”. As a follower, GJ, welcome aboard.

Disappointed Englishman

Disappointed Englishman

1 day ago

CounterCurrentsTV edited his comment. His comment, in my inbox, read initially: “You are one of the dishonorable Orc shills that I mentioned in the podcast. Shame on you: lying and shilling for that sociopath. Spencer is cancer. “Mistakes have been made” is a nice passive way of saying that Spencer has made catastrophic errors of judgment. These errors are not flukes. They spring from a deeply flawed — narcissistic, dishonest — character. The movement would be better off if Spencer simply retired. ”

Honestly? Richard Spencer is cancer? Richard Spencer is a sociopath? This is just a handbags-at-dawn camp attack.

 

Corporation Camp

Corporation Camp

1 day ago

I have been following this petty beef between Greg and Spencer for years. It has always come from Greg’s side tbh.

Disappointed Englishman

Disappointed Englishman

1 day ago

Yes. Richard Spencer always avoids this stuff in his podcasts.

CounterCurrentsTV

CounterCurrentsTV

1 day ago

The bottom line is: I think the movement would be stronger if Spencer simply retired. He has a track record of terrible decisions, with disastrous consequences. These are not random and accidental. They flow from his bad character. He’s vain, sociopathic, impulsive, dishonest, and self-indulgent. Furthermore, he’s not even an advocate of White Nationalism. He denigrates ethnonationalism and praises the EU and the USSR. He’s simply an incoherent shill for Russian geopolitical interests. Why does Spencer support Putin’s war against “Nazis” (genuine White Nationalists) in Ukraine, but then ruin NPI with Nazi rhetoric and Hitler salutes? If there is a coherent agenda there, it is anti-white. He’s also a terrible spokesman: rambling, inarticulate, and half-baked. Beyond that, Spencer’s one enduring achievement is that he has somehow corrupted otherwise perfectly decent people into being grotesque liars and shills, like “Disappointed Englishman.”

Let’s take a closer look at this last comment.

The bottom line is: I think the movement would be stronger if Spencer simply retired.

I agree.  However I go further and say the “movement” would be even stronger if Johnson, Taylor, Brimelow, Dickson, Duke, TRSMajority Rights, Roissy, et al. all retired as well.

He has a track record of terrible decisions, with disastrous consequences.

Like letting “extremely vetted” meetings get infiltrated multiples times by ludicrously transparent infiltrators?  Like banning people who were not only long-time commentators but also writers for your website?  By getting wholesale on the Trump train, to the extent of stating that he would enact real pro-White demographic change, but never admitting your error?

These are not random and accidental. They flow from his bad character. 

Indeed.

He’s vain, sociopathic, impulsive, dishonest, and self-indulgent.

Indeed, again.

Furthermore, he’s not even an advocate of White Nationalism.

Neither is Johnson, who is an ethnonationalist advocating the possibility of Europeans ethnically cleansing each other.

He denigrates ethnonationalism….

Which supports, and not refutes, Spencer being a White nationalist.  WN is, by definition, nationalism primarily based on race and NOT on ethnicity.

…and praises the EU and the USSR. 

I agree with Johnson’s criticisms here.

He’s simply an incoherent shill for Russian geopolitical interests. 

Perhaps.

Why does Spencer support Putin’s war against “Nazis” (genuine White Nationalists) in Ukraine, but then ruin NPI with Nazi rhetoric and Hitler salutes?

I supported the Ukraininan nationalists, but let’s be honest, they were used to advance a globalist agenda.  Perhaps Spencer was right about that.

If there is a coherent agenda there, it is anti-white. 

Oh, you can say that about the entirety of Der Movement, Inc.

He’s also a terrible spokesman: rambling, inarticulate, and half-baked. 

As opposed to?

Beyond that, Spencer’s one enduring achievement is that he has somehow corrupted otherwise perfectly decent people into being grotesque liars and shills, like “Disappointed Englishman.”

And they’re “crazy and bitter” too!

Disappointed Englishman

Disappointed Englishman

1 day ago

Greg, you claim Richard has bad character, but this video and your comments here provide evidence of your bad character. Honestly. Comments that Richard is cancer, etc. Please up your game! Do you accept that it is not right for a gay man to lead the identitarian right?

CounterCurrentsTV

CounterCurrentsTV

1 day ago

Nobody takes you seriously, orc.

The Ring!  The Ring!  De facto anarchy in the provinces!

Here are the questions alluded to above.  The primary question, and one that should have been asked of Johnson, but was not, is this:

If Richard Spencer is an incoherent, vain, sociopathic, impulsive, dishonest, and self-indulgent cancer, then how has he so quickly risen to a position of high prominence in the “movement?” 

We have to admit that he has surpassed Duke and Taylor as the most well-known Far-Right activist on the American scene, and that he has significant influence and a wide array of allies and adherents.  Doesn’t this mean that Der Movement is full of vain, impulsive, dishonest, self-indulgent sociopaths who would, naturally, accept someone embodying those traits as their leader?  You can’t have it both ways – that Spencer is such a horrible human being but at the same time the “movement” that so readily accepts him is fundamentally healthy.  Either Spencer is not that bad or Sallis is 100% correct about Der Movement, which means that your own character is suspect for your over-the-top critiques of “crazy and bitter” Ted.

Let’s ask more questions.  

If you believe that Spencer is as bad as you say, then doesn’t that mean that the “movement” in which he is a prominent leader must be broken beyond repair?  Doesn’t it mean that Sallis is correct in his characterization of Der Movement as an inept and dishonest chronic failure?  Doesn’t it mean that most American Alt Righters are feckless peabrains, easily manipulated and unable to distinguish true leadership from false?

Isn’t it true that there is an affirmative action program in the “movement” that benefits the likes of Spencer (and you as well), based on ethnic origins?

Further, what does it say about your judgment, and that of Taylor, Brimelow, Derbyshire, and the rest of “the boys” that you all were fooled by Spencer for years and you all wanted a “big tent” Alt Right including Spencer? Why should any of us trust your judgment now?

More SLC News

In Der News.

Primate Negress and Neo-Marxist legal group censors Spencer.  I despise the Alt Right for making a mockery of racial activism, but I support their free speech rights, and would certainly choose Spencer to support over some alien Africaness.

Spencer and company have legitimate grounds to sue, tortious interference for starters; if this censorship is targeted only to pro-White groups, leaving alone Colored extremists, then extending the interference to discriminatory grounds is possible.

The objection would be: no money for lawyers.  Yes, keep on giving the lion’s share of “movement” money to keep the Happy Penguins and Latrine Flies Derbyshire living well, that’s the ticket, right?  There IS money, it’s just not going to Spencer and other hard-liners.  Whose fault is that?  Blame yourselves, Der Movement rank-and-file.  Another objection: can’t find a lawyer. If Der Movement had taken the advice, given, literally, for decades (two of them in my case), from some people to first build an infrastructure (including a designated legal team) and then engage in public hijinks, this situation would not exist.  Spencer needs to get back online first, second, needs to successfully deal with the lawfare suits targeting him, and then really needs to concentrate on infrastructure building – Richard, you need more folks on your side wearing suits and ties in courtrooms and fewer morons dressed like Captain America in the streets of Charlottesville.

Jewliani believes that “men are disposable” (including him?), but Milady Mantis Head Ivanka is untouchable.  I guess that’s the “fundamental premise” in action. I note that Rudy’s pussy pedestalization hasn’t prevented him from careening from one failed marriage to another.

So, we need a “big tent” strategy, but Charlottesville failed because it was open to the entire Right? Basically: whatever Spencer does is wrong.  Hypocrisy: it’s good that people don’t “shut down” Johnson when he criticizes them; on the other hand, if someone criticizes Johnson, he bans them from his website.  Fair point about GoDaddy – but that’s the price of affirmative action, no prudence, no planning, no common sense. Johnson is also correct about comments sections, including the legal implications. Johnson is also correct about free speech, consistent with my thoughts on this matter.

Is (as Johnson asserts) Taylor doing a service by dividing Jews by being pro-Jewish?  What about dividing Whites by being anti-White ethnic?  My problem with Amren in regard to this is not that they are Jew-friendly.  After all, they’ve been that way even when I was writing for them, and I accepted it as a strategic approach similar to what Johnson is talking about.  My problem is with them being pro-Jewish and at the same time anti-White ethnic.  And all the “yellow supremacist” talk just adds to it; in other words, Jews and Asians are considered high caste and White ethnics are low caste (in the case of the swarthoids, untouchables).  It’s the double standard that’s the problem.  If you are going to be accepting of Jews and avoid any and all criticism of Jews, then probably you should extend the same courtesy to all of the native peoples of Europe.  It’s not “White advocacy” to value Levantines and Orientals over Europeans.

Jewish “WNs” driven away from Amren because of MacDonald, as per Cofnas?  Nonsense.  The rabbi left because his Jewish school gave him a choice – us or them.  The other Jews left after the Duke-Hart dust-up, blame that on Duke and Hart, not MacDonald.  Finally, the Jews in Amren were destructive: Hart promoting a multiracial “White separatist state” or Levin saying that racial preservation for its own sake is “insane,” or Weissberg promoting the “racial status quo.”  And one can only imagine where Derbyshire got the “latrine flies” insult from.

Johnson hates snobs?  The lack of self-awareness is amazing.  And the supporter of intra-European ethnic cleansing denounces “imperialism” and “genocide.”  And is “drinking and drugs” really the worst “degeneracy” in the “movement?”

Robert Griffin goes semi-Nordicist.  It was just a matter of time, I guess.  Does he really think that the System supports White ethnics and is only against Nordics?  


Sailer cites 23andMe stupidities.

This retardation manifests when people start taking seriously low percentage results – I’m 4.2% this or 0.2% that – seriously, particularly at the 50% confidence rating that’s the default setting at the site.  Needless to say, the “timing the date of admixture” feature is equally ludicrous.  What’s going on with 23andMe is the same principle as Der Movement’s stupidities on race: turning legitimate science into trashy garbage tends to delegitimize the legitimate science, because the run-of-the-mill idiot is unable to distinguish science from trash.  So, biological race is real, population genetics can be interesting, and genetic kinship is fundamental to genetic interests.  But then people look at 23andMe nonsense, get confused, angry, misled, and/or disgusted, and then think the whole idea of racial genetics is nonsense, rather than the company’s product itself.  Likewise, racial science is real, and racial history is real, but Der Movement makes a mockery of it with HBD and Kempism, so many people get disgusted once they realize how they’ve been misled. Instead on turning against HBD or Kemp, they instead turn to “spiritual race” theories, like Yockey and Evola did when confronted with the nonsense of their time (Guntherism and calipers).