Category: Pierce

Who Has Been Right?

Who’s been mostly right?

Let’s get one thing out of the way: Der Movement was right about Trump’s chances of winning and I was wrong.  Now that we got that one aberrant item out of the way, let’s get to the “meat” of the issue.

Der Movement invested an enormous amount of intellectual and moral capital in Donald Trump the man, labeled “the last chance of White America” aka the “God Emperor” who is going to save us from demographic displacement. Someone else – who might that be? – clearly asserted that Trump is a vulgar, ignorant buffoon, a pro-Jewish and pro-Negro cuck, who is not worthy of the breathless onanistic support of racial activists.  Unlike Der Movement and its slavish hero worship and Man on White Horse Syndrome obsessions, I made a clear distinction between Trump the man – a disaster – and Trump the campaign, Trump the movement, Trump the right-wing populist.  I made clear that the only real reason to support Touchback Trump was the perception – not reality, but perception – that Trump is a “racist fascist” thus inducing racial chaos and balkanization in America.

The outcome?  Trump has been constantly cucking, betraying his base, but, because of leftist hysteria and perceptions, political violence and chaos has skyrocketed.  Sallis right, Der Movement wrong.

I also made the point that Trump’s supporters were more important than Trump himself – and, yes, we see Trump’s supporters battling leftist thugs in the streets while Trump himself wimps out on a constant basis.  Sallis correct once again.

I have been warning about Silk Road White nationalism and the trend of Asians pimping out their women to pathetic beta activists in order to further Asian racial agendas.  Lo and behold we have Chinese “maidens” and Japanese “shady ladies” infiltrating and subverting White nationalist blogs. Surprise!

[We can ask how these “shady ladies” find the time to not only run their own Asian supremacist blog, but also leave long and rambling posts in the AltRightosphere.  Do they have a (White) sugar daddy supporting them? Spoiled rich kid living off daddy’s money? Or, perhaps, just like the Russian government is said to pay Internet trolls, China does the same?]

I warned against the Alt Lite/Alt Wrong, and was very sharp toward the Alt Right because of the Alt Right’s “big tent” embrace of the aforementioned elements. Then we saw the Alt Lite/Alt Wrong throw Spencer under the bus, re: Hailgate and chuckle with the Jewish friends, giving consolation to Jews that “Spencer is likely to get shot.”  Absolutely disgusting – Brimelow and Derbyshire leading the list of speakers.  Do you need any more indication on why the Alt Wrong is wrong?

Back online in the very early 2000s, I was critical of the clownshow of the National Alliance even before Pierce died, and we see the utter collapse of the organization since then.

I was sharply critical of Marine Le Pen and mainstreaming and we saw Le Pen go down to a catastrophic loss, and mainstreaming also lost in The Netherlands, Austria, and Australia. Der Movement, on the other hand, exhibited delusions about Le Pen and are still pontificating about “how well” Le Pen actually did, even after her shocking “blow out loss.” Sallis right, Der Movement wrong.

This is a question of judgement.  Who, dear reader, do you trust? Should you trust? Will you trust?

The RFR Strikes Back

Strom speaks some truths about the Alt Right.

RFR = Radical Far-Right; that is, the racial nationalist Far-Right that is not connected to the “Alt Right” and that which also rejects “mainstreaming” and other centrist ploys.

I identify as a national socialist (*), and I suspect that Strom identifies similarly.  I also have strong sympathy for non-national socialist fascist movements such as the Romanian Legion, the early and late Italian Fascists (not the middle era of reactionary authoritarianism), and also the very interesting variants of French fascism (typically ignored by a Germanocentric “movement”). I do not know how Strom views these various non-German fascist movements.  I do disagree with Strom on certain things – e.g., I am not fond of the Pierce legacy, I am ambivalent about the Germanocentric Hitler, I looked askance on Strom’s “Man on White Horse” infatuation of Putin, and was disillusioned about Strom’s self-declared involvement with the Who We Are fiasco (although Strom asserts that the extant version is not the “final version”) – however, in general, I suspect that Strom and I agree on the basics (**).  We certainly agree about the Alt Right. Now, remember that that nasty old crank Ted Sallis was always skeptical of the Alt Right, noted that their “fifteen minutes of fame” were over, viewed them as another “movement” passing fad, and noted that unless Alt Right leaders became serious and actually did real work, the advantage resulting from the Trump campaign would be lost.  

THE AMORPHOUS disunited non-group dubbed the “alt right” and defined mainly by a rejection of Political Correctness and a wish that Donald Trump would be elected instead of the War Hag, seems to be dissolving before our eyes. On the one hand, you have the “alt light” who are either horrified — or pretending to be horrified — by the racially loyal and Jew-aware elements in their own ranks, and who are falling back into line within the boundaries of the corpse called Conservatism, Inc., where they will quickly be forgotten no matter how many book deals they sign. On the other hand, you have the rest, who are beginning to realize they have been played by Trump and/or Trump’s keepers; but who also realize that they have tapped into something real — something authentic — something of deep world-historical importance and biological and cosmic significance — by becoming aware of the primacy of race and the fact that the Jewish power structure is out to kill us. It’s only the second group that’s interesting. There’s real hope for them — and, if we can help them to full awareness and commitment, there’s real hope for all of us in them.

Quite right. Just as Trump has – as Alt Righter Spencer has noted – squandered his political capital on jackass tweets and non-essential issues, the Alt Right, in typical quota queen fashion, squandered its fifteen minutes of fame with Pepe-Kek nonsense and any lack of real accomplishment. “Dissolving before our eyes” – that’s not from the crazy crank and ethnic outsider Ted Sallis but from the Norwegian-American and “Establishment Movement Figure” Strom, “one of the boys.”  I’m shocked, shocked!  Strom, like me, mocks the Alt Right’s fetishistic obsession with Trump and – while he unfortunately declines to mention the Alt Wrong – he makes the distinction between the Alt Lite and the more hardcore Alt Right, the latter which should have never had anything to do with the former.  Strom suggests that the more hardcore faction has some “real hope” – but let us acknowledge that an awakened Alt Right that rejects the Alt Lite (and Alt Wrong) is really nothing more or less than White nationalism.  Yes, there may be differences in style, but in the end, shorn of all the Beavis-and-Butthead trolling and lulzing and shorn of the Alt Lite and Alt Wrong, the Alt Right is just White nationalism with a snazzy “dust jacket” packaged for millennial consumption.  Strom, like me months ago, has seen through all the sound and fury of the Alt Right, has seen through the Alt Right bluster, has seen through the “we’ve arrived” self-congratulation of Alt Right figures, and asks that the Alt Right grow up.

Maybe where I was ignored, Strom will be listed to.  More likely though, we’ll just see more Pepe images and cries of “Hail Kek” and discussions by Roissy about his Black girlfriend’s “gravity-defying ass” or about his Asian girlfriends sticking their fingers up his anus. Hail Kek, indeed.

The Alt Right is failing; it is – as Strom says – it is dissolving.  The “mainstreamers” are failing in Europe and in Australia.  Trump is squandering is political capital.  All of the Alt Right-Mainstream-Trump “heroism” is falling apart, and it is high time that the RFR stops being on the defensive and seizes the high ground; it is time for the RFR to end its marginalization by the Alt Right.  The RFR must strike back against the losers driving the ‘movement” into the ground.  We do not need Pepe-Kek stupidity, a “movement” infiltrated by Jews, Iranians, and East Asians, we do not need Trump worship, miscegenating “game,” or any of the rest of it.

The passing fads fade away, and the racial nationalist hardcore will soldier on.

*I can imagine being accused of “LARPING” as a “Nazi” that will turn off “normies.”  I have two objections to that.  The more immediate objection is that there is a difference between being a national socialist and a Hitlerian Nazi; the former is an ideology and a worldview and the latter is a highly specific historical party and movement that was based on the aforementioned ideology/worldview.  And let’s be honest: “normies” are turned off by the ideology of the more mainstream racialists who accuse others of “LARPING” so it really doesn’t make a difference what flavor of racial nationalism one espouses.

I have a deeper objection. While I have used Alt Right-adopted slang terms like “LARPING” and “normies” myself when appropriate, I’m beginning to tire of them – particularly “LARPING” – because they are being over-used and mis-used.  There are people who believe they can win arguments simply by accusing their opponents of “LARPING” – a sloppy form of ad hominem that fails to address substantive arguments.  It is one thing to point at Nutzi types marching around with swastika banners and cry LARPING and it is quite another to label as LARPING any ideology or meme that you disagree with.  For the sake of consistency, if I’m going to reject the Alt Right, I should reject their shallow and juvenile memes as well, so I’ll try and refrain from using these phrases and I’m not going to tolerate them being used in place of actual argument.

**But how can this be?  Strom is a “virulent anti-Semite” but the Silkers accuse me (someone also accused of being a “virulent anti-Semite”) of being a “tool of the Jews” and of “sucking Jewish cock.”  How can Strom and I be in agreement?  Cognitive dissonance!  Can it be?  Can someone be both anti-Jewish and anti-Asian? Who would have ever thought it? Hmmm…one wonders how vehemently Strom would object to Asian colonization of White lands, “British Asians,” and the borders of the West guarded by black-booted Chinese girls with guns.  Is Strom a “tool of the Jews” as well? Oy vey!

Joe Costello: Not “Who We Are”

Lindsey Graham – Ja!  Joe Costello – Nein!

Strom discusses the early days of ADV and who was against the show, and who gave the show a forum to exist (emphasis added):

And we made some powerful enemies. To keep us off 50,000-Watt shortwave station  WRNO, organized Jewish groups boycotted the station and withdrew their advertising from it and its FM sister station — but Joe Costello, the station’s owner, believed in free speech and kept us on the air even though it cost him a huge amount of money. Then they “outed” Joe Costello as a so-called “racist,” and published in their newspapers that he had given money to — horror of horrors — David Duke’s political campaigns, trying in yet another way to ruin him financially. But Joe Costello would not bow down. American Dissident Voices stayed on WRNO — for many years.

Who was Joe Costello and family?

Survivors include his mother, Josephine Cortese Costello, and three brothers,
Martin Joseph, Donald Mario and Michael Angelo Costello.

And family origins.

His father, Joseph Costello Sr., emigrated with his family from Italy in 1882…

Dat dere no good Negroid swarthoid Mafiosi!  Instead let’s focus on good, hearty, real HuWhite men of the West, such as the high-IQ Jews who tried to force the show off the air, and those real White men like Lindsey Graham and John McCain.  That’s the ticket!  Der Movement knows real racial quality when it sees it!  Who We Are, indeed!

More White Worthlessness

The maladaptive race.

Cuck Austria.

Strom is correct that we are not going to vote ourselves out of this mess. He is wrong, however, that the solution si to buy our way out with the discredited currency of Pierce-ism.

What we need is clear-head realism coupled to a sane, fact-based, and racially progressive memetic product.  In other words: a New Movement.

Of Breasts and Morons

Got milk?

Here’s something both the HBDers and gamesters can appreciate, male preferences for female breast morphology.  Emphasis added:

The morphology of human female breasts typical for their permanent fat deposits appears to be unique among primates. It has been previously suggested that female breast morphology arose as a result of sexual selection. This is supported by evidence showing that women with larger breasts tend to have higher estrogen levels; breast size may therefore serve as an indicator of potential fertility. However, breasts become less firm with age and parity, and breast shape could thus also serve as a marker of residual fertility. Therefore, cross-culturally, males are hypothesized to prefer breast morphology that indicates both high potential and residual fertility. To test this, we performed a survey on men’s preferences for breast morphology in four different cultures (Brazil, Cameroon, the Czech Republic, Namibia). As stimuli, we used two sets of images varying in breast size (marker of potential fertility) and level of breast firmness (marker of residual fertility). Individual preferences for breast size were variable, but the majority of raters preferred medium sized, followed by large sized breasts. In contrast, we found systematic directional preferences for firm breasts across all four samples. This pattern supports the idea that breast morphology may serve as a residual fertility indicator, but offers more limited support for the potential fertility indicator hypothesis. Future studies should focus on a potential interaction between the two parameters, breast size and firmness, which, taken together, may help to explain the relatively large variation in women’s breast sizes.

Consistent with my anecdotal observations, firmness is a more consistent preference than size.  Indeed, the two may be correlated: the size preference for “medium” may be an evolutionary compromise (see “Future studies”) between increased size = higher fertility and increased size = sagging leading to perception of decreased residual fertility.  I note though that “small” was not a size preference in any of the race-cultures evaluated.  One can imagine the underpinnings for the firmness/residual fertility preference: to put in crudely in gamester terms – sagging breasts translates into “this bitch has hit The Wall and I’m not investing anything in that barren hag.”  I note though no East Asian or South Asian countries included (no, Der Movement, the Czech Republic is not an “East Asian country”).  You’d think the most heavily population nations would be sampled.  Or maybe the authors were afraid the results would be skewed – e.g., East Asian “male” preferences for “female” breast morphology – the torso appearance of a 12 year-old boy.

Here, below, we see Silver again; when you read this keep in mind he previously ranted at Radix in favor of Mitt Romney’s “creative destruction.”  When it comes to defending predatory capitalism, then macroeconomics are all important, when it comes to discouraging someone named “Rocco Manzardo” then a concern for the same macroeconomics is “faggotry.”  Real “faggotry” is any blogmaster tolerating Silver as a commentator.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ  Rocco Manzardo • an hour ago
Macroeconomics. Can you be a bigger faggot? Economists themselves disagree about no other issue as much as they do macroeconomics. Despite this disagreement, mainstream policy prescriptions lay within the same ballpark, so who cares what Trump thinks about it? (Frankly, I detect the stench of ‘Austrian school’ faggotry in this comment, but perhaps I’m wrong).

Note also: economists disagree about macroeconomics like “no other issue” but at the same time all the “mainstream policy prescriptions lay within the same ballpark.”  He then moves on from that outright inconsistency to say “who cares what Trump thinks about it?” – well, if Trump is against those “mainstream prescriptions” then it is a relevant topic for discussion (just not by guys named “Rocco Manzardo.”  Maybe “Sanjay Patel” would be more to Silver’s liking). Yeah, Silver, also put up more Yugoslavia anecdotes to certify your “balkanoid” bonafides.  I thought you were part Greek also?  Or all Greek?  No, wait, all Serbian?  No wait, a Paki living in London?  No, wait….

Enabling the HBD fraud; Jews and Asians celebrate.

And then we have this:

Getting Trump in office is a start. Changing the dissemination of information in the media about race, economics, and culture towards race-realism, fiscal responsibility, and the benefits of a northwestern European style of society is next. Then maybe we could stop the demographic disappearance of our race. And finally, although I don’t see a realistic scenario of how to do it, end up with a new-northwestern European homeland which does not allow other races residence.

Yeah, moron, and in that “homeland” the 2016 election would have been Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton.  “Klay” apparently is following the old WLP free-riding tradition. Do your own heavy lifting, Klay.  I’m sure all the Midwest cucks will be eager to help out.

Der Movement in the News, 10/2/16

Strom, Sailer, Vox Day, Silver.
Here is Strom making an excellent point:

Blacks are a primitive race with a low average intelligence, impulsive and prone to crime and rage and violence. The things they do often make no sense at all, even from the perspective of their own best interests. It’s dangerous just to be present wherever they constitute a plurality. It’s even dangerous for them. Setting them loose by the millions in our once-brilliant civilization is a disaster that is going to turn into a holocaust if we don’t do something to stop it.

There is no upside to their presence. Elon Musk has just announced that his goal is to build a city of one million human beings on the surface of Mars. Now, looking at it with absolute dispassionate objectivity, if we actually make it to that planet, do you think it would be beneficial, wise, or even tolerable to bring one or two hundred thousand Negroes along? I didn’t think so. Far from being wise, it would be negligent, insane, criminal, treasonous, fatal, immoral, and murderous to do so. It would be deliberate and certain sabotage of our entire future.
Well — it’s the same on this planet, cowboy. The situation is exactly the same. Just as it would be on Mars, our existence here is not guaranteed.

Strom is an intelligent fellow who often has great insights. I realize he has deep personal ties to the memory of William Pierce and I certainly do not expect Strom to denounce (or even harshly critique) Pierce. However, I would urge Strom to seriously reconsider certain aspects of Pierce’s ideology and writings; even if someone values Pierce as a “great leader” they must admit that he was not infallible, and at some point those who wish to carry on Pierce’s legacy need to be honest about, and correct, any flaws in that legacy that they identify.

Only a conservative anti-WN HBDer like Breezy would think separating Middle Easterners and North Africans from Europeans in the census is a bad thing (never mind the old South Asian classification that he never fails to bring up). Now all we have to do is get these folks, including Hispanics, to stop being classified as “White” when it comes time to assign racial responsibility to crime.
Typical Breezyian stupidity:

In the current year, however, we realize that Tony should have been directly handed racial privileges himself, for being who he is, the descendant of a Roman legionnaire assigned to Syria two millennia ago.

Right….and that’s what passes for analytical thought in HBD.

And now we have Vox Day:

When the flea on the tip of the tail thinks it is wagging the dog, that’s the #AltRetard branch of the #AltRight. The Alt-Retards are so ideologically incoherent and inept that to call them incompetent would be giving them too much credit. Setting aside the fact that they clearly fail to understand my position, they appear to genuinely believe that the ALTernative RIGHT can be national SOCIALIST. Yes, because that’s exactly what all the conservatives and libertarians disgusted with the cuckservatism of the Republican establishment concerning immigration are demanding, more socialism, the return of Alsace-Lorraine, and the invasion of Poland.

Anyone who would write something like that is either a stupidly shallow mainstream conservative at heart and/or is fundamentally dishonest. First of all, any sane definition of Right vs. Left – at least those asserted by more rational elements of Der Movement – does NOT stand upon a foundation of economics. Instead, it is based on whether one supports the ideas of hierarchy, difference, and the importance of “blood and soil,” or whether one supports as the underlying objective egalitarianism, absolute equality, lack of difference, and a rejection of “blood and soil” for fungible aracialism. The reason that national socialism is, properly, considered part of the far-Right is because of this, “socialism” notwithstanding. Second, who cares in the end about labels of “right” or “left?” Only idiots like John Ray who think that people can be scared into supporting neoconservatism by labeling everything else as “leftist,” or the Pepe/Kek “Alt Right” crowd obsessed with their navel-gazing “branding.” Third, what kind of moron cannot distinguish an underlying political philosophy such as national socialism, represented by a set of ideals, from its most well-known historical actualization in Hitlerian Germany? Obviously if someone is today a national socialist (small “n” and small “s”) they are not proposing “the return of Alsace-Lorraine, and the invasion of Poland.” Why do otherwise intelligent Der Movementers take this Vox Day seriously? It must be for personal reasons of friendship or something; it cannot be for serious political objectives.

The #AltRetard aren’t a viable alternative for the obvious reason that they are not even of the political Right.

Calling John Ray! All dem dere “national socialists” are going to start swooning if they are not considered part of the “political Right” – after all, dose dere Nutzis just have to be part of the same area of the political spectrum as Mitt Romney, John McCain, and John Derbyshire!

Their lack of intelligence can be seen in their decision to declare war on Milo… and now they want to draw the baleful eye of the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil upon themselves as well? So be it. That worked out great for the Hugos, after all.

I actually could care less about internal Alt Right feuds and their foray into sci/fi and fantasy awards (then again, most of Der Movement’s “racial histories” are sci/fi and fantasy, so maybe there’s a relevant connection there) – I’m not of the Alt Right, but when these Kekers start pontificating on White nationalism and national socialism, something must be said. And: “the Supreme Dark Lord of the Evil Legion of Evil” – clean up dem dere Snickers wrappers in mom’s basement! Then again, can we take seriously grown men who are obsessed with a cartoon frog and something called “Kek?”

The ridiculous thing about this is that it’s totally unnecessary to John Birch either Milo or me from the Alt-Retard. Neither Milo nor I ever belonged to it, or claimed to belong to it, and we don’t want anything to do with them, their finger-painting, or their swastika panties.

Milo doesn’t want anything to do with panties? Are you sure?

The Alt-Retard is the idiot branch of the Alt-White, which unfortunately does make them part of the Alt-Right despite their ideological incoherency, but then, every village needs its idiot.

If by “Alt-Retard” you mean your garden variety Nutzis, then, please keep them with you in the Alt Right. I despise the whole lot of you: Alt Right, Alt Wrong, Alt Retard Nutzi fetishists, you can all go to hell together. [I note for the record that neither the Alt Right nor the Alt Retard attacks the HBD Alt Wrong, all the evidence I need that both the Alt Right and Alt Retard are no damn good.]

 But, actually, the stupidity about national socialism aside, this broadside by Vox Day, and the opposing attacks by the so-called “Alt-Retard” are good things. Keep it up, Vox Day! I see the whole Alt Right in all its manifestations (including Alt Retard and, especially, Alt Wrong) to be a long-term danger to White nationalism, so keep up this circular firing squad! Let’s clean out the niche space, remove the Alt Right weeds, and then we can have some real growth of a sane and reasonable (and Pepe- and Kek-free) pro-White racial nationalist activism.
silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ Last Straw • 7 hours ago

 I don’t mind the feelings of fellowship and the experience of the ‘divine’ (whatever that is, if it’s even real) that Christianity leads to, but get real, Christian dogma is just bullshit. Absurd, offensive bullshit.

Never forget: the incarnation of Silver that was showing up at Majority Rights was openly Christian and pro-Christian. Before defenders of Silver claim “but, but, but….people can change their minds” I’ll point out:

1. People very rarely change their minds on something so fundamental to their identity as religious belief.
2. With Silver, it’s not the case that we are dealing with a single and definite case of “changing one’s mind,” but instead a dizzying array of chameleon–like reinventions from blog to blog (and at Majority Rights from week to week), all designed to fit into the particular context of the moment to push his underlying agenda. Yes, people can indeed “change their mind,” but not about everything and anything, constantly, back and forth with no clear direction, and all with objectives set in his first few blog posts on Majority Rights.

The Alt-Right Caste System?

If such exists, WNs are on the bottom.  And where’s Pepe on it?  Hail Kek!

The author of this piece means well I guess, but it’s flawed in several ways.

Anyone who actually met Pierce – and I’ll assume the author of this piece never did (and if I am wrong, then please correct me in the comments section at that piece) – understands that it is very highly unlikely he would have considered himself a member of the “Alt-Right.” Pierce subscribed to the intolerant Hitlerite “my way or the highway” school of “movement” leadership, with no interest in merging with other groups or working under some sort of “big tent” “umbrella organization.”  And quite right too – why dilute one’s distinctive character and vision in order to fit in with a bunch of inept jackasses and freakish degenerates?  Now, of course, Pierce himself was no prize package either, but we are considering the question from his perspective.

Then, what makes the author think that all those “lower-caste” levels will accept their positions? They have their own agendas, and likely each thinks they are on top.  Some people in the Alt-Right – the HBD Alt-Wrong faction – are not only “not WN” but actually anti-WN.  How are they then subordinate to the WN upper-caste?  Do you think Derbyshire would agree to be subordinate to “latrine flies?”

And then we have this from a prominent Alt-Right site:

Asians perform better than whites on tests that measure intelligence, including IQ tests, SAT, ACT, and the ASVAB.
Asians earn more money than whites.
Asians are better educated than whites.
Asians commit less crime than whites.

Bow down before your Asian masters, subaltern White losers!  Is anyone else getting sick and tired of this HBD crap?

The “big tent” fails, containing as it does incompatible elements.  Who’s on top?  WNs are Asian-worshipers?


I sort of agree with that, except he’s talking “Pepe” too seriously.  It’s all moronic, jackass stupidity.  Another passing “movement” fad that it will waste time on, while the Left goes from strength to strength and actually gets things done.  

Paradox: the Right ostensibly opposes affirmative action yet promotes it in its own ranks; the Left supports affirmative action, but uses a ruthless merit system to get the most effective people to get the job done.  Guess who wins?

I’ll say it again: Der Movement is making a BIG MISTAKE acting like a bunch of conformist retards and jumping on the Alt-Right bandwagon just because Neurological Hillary Cross-Eyed Harridan Bitch gave those Alt-Righters fifteen minutes of fame in some canned rambling speech. Put your eggs in that one basket of deplorables, and then watch REALLY deplorable people eat away at the “movement” from the inside.  

The WNs think they’ll subsume the Alt-Wrong and the Alt-Wrong believes the opposite.  The problem is that even if the WNs are correct, they’ll be no better off than where they started. If the WNs are wrong (as they usually are), they’ll wreck racialism for years to come.