Category: infiltrators

Stonehenge: No, No, a Thousand Times, No!

In der news.

Read this; excerpts, emphasis added:

Researchers compared DNA extracted from Neolithic human remains found across Britain with that of people alive at the same time in Europe.
The Neolithic inhabitants were descended from populations originating in Anatolia (modern Turkey) that moved to Iberia before heading north.
They reached Britain in about 4,000BC.
DNA reveals that Neolithic Britons were largely descended from groups who took the Mediterranean route, either hugging the coast or hopping from island-to-island on boats. Some British groups had a minor amount of ancestry from groups that followed the Danube route.
Although Britain was inhabited by groups of “western hunter-gatherers” when the farmers arrived in about 4,000BC, DNA shows that the two groups did not mix very much at all.

I guess the “high trust hunter gatherers” weren’t that “high trust” after all.

The British hunter-gatherers were almost completely replaced by the Neolithic farmers, apart from one group in western Scotland, where the Neolithic inhabitants had elevated local ancestry.
Genetic analysis shows that the Neolithic farmers, by contrast, were paler-skinned with brown eyes and black or dark-brown hair.

No, no, a thousand times, no!

Towards the end of the Neolithic, in about 2,450BC, the descendants of the first farmers were themselves almost entirely replaced when a new population – called the Bell Beaker people – migrated from mainland Europe. So Britain saw two extreme genetic shifts in the space of a few thousand years.

Well, they’re certainly undergoing an extreme genetic change right now.  Anyway, at least they got rid of those swarthy Neolithics – except of course for Tom Jones, very “Silurian,” he is.

Der Movement’s reaction to this news.

In Trump We Trust!

Hmm...read this.

In 2015 and 2016, we won enormous victories by attacking the enemy’s weakest points from a position of strength. In 2017 we suffered enormous defeats because we thought we could attack our enemy’s strongest points from a position of weakness. These defeats were entirely predictable, but the wrong people were making decisions.

Indeed, wrong people just like Greg Johnson.  Affirmative action cases, Quota Queens, wholly without merit.  And what were those “enormous victories” of 2015 or 2016?  Answer: None.  Nothing. This is wholly a figment of the Alt Right imagination.  As and far as “entirely predictable” goes, it was Sallis who predicted it, while Johnson and all the rest were firmly on the Alt Right bandwagon.

Since then, the consensus has been to return to what worked: metapolitics, which includes community building, online propaganda, and Identitarian-style activism, which aims to maximize impacts on the public mind while minimizing risks and costs to activists. We can’t outgun the enemy. We can’t outspend them. But we can out-argue them. We can be cooler, cleverer, and funnier.

You can be, but you’re not.

White Nationalists win every fair debate.

Except against Sallis. Indeed, Johnson is so good at debating that he “bans” people from his blog for writing things he doesn’t agree with. And as regards the Alt Right as a whole, certainly, screaming “Pepe! Kek!” is a debating style that rivals Lincoln vs. Douglas.

Second, the only way the establishment could censor and deplatform us completely is to shut down the internet…

Nonsense.  China doesn’t “shut down the Internet” but they do a pretty good job of stifling dissent.  Oh well, don’t worry about it…just send in those “D’Nations.”

How’s that Arctic Alliance coming along, Derbyshire? I mean, outside of your bedroom.

Listen to this. I like the part where Kersey says that “White nationalism” shouldn’t be used because it has been demonized.  We need a new label!  As if any term you come up with wouldn’t also be immediately demonized by the Left. 

An online comment to Durocher from a self-declared  “empathetic” minority –

I’m just a random nobody minority that likes to see what White Nationalists (whom I empathize) and White Supremacists are talking about, and one thing I find curious is how enthralled some are by Nordicism. Even the non-Nordics and overall “Euro-mutts” have this fantastical Nordic vision, which is really a channeling of Hitlerism (can’t even call it Nazism because it goes beyond the politic surrounding Germanic Nordicism, but pure obsession with what’s believed to be Aryan – and Hitlerism because he’s the closet to the ideology that most are familiar with).
It’s funny how a certain group of whites have committed to reducing anything good about white people to Nordics.

It’s more funny that lunatics like the plagiarist Andrew Hamilton actually declared that a “movement” fundamentally based on Nordicist doctrine is somehow “anti-Nordicist” (and I suppose the ADL and AIPAC are anti-Jewish).  Meanwhile, sane observers note that Der Movement and Nordicsm are virtually synonymous, and even Patrik Hermansson observed that HopeNotHate leveraged “movement” obsessions by choosing a Swede to do the infiltration. By the way, it was my pointing that out (and my call for accountability for failed “movement” “leaders”) that got me “banned” from Counter-Currents, in case readers of EGI Notes are unaware of that.  You can find that at the comments thread here.  Johnson cannot “fairly debate” that the “movement” got hoist by its Nordicist petard.

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Meet the Alt Right

In all cases, emphasis added.

The outrageous insanity, delusion, and lack of judgment of the Right:

“About three months ago,” Johnson begins, “I was talking to Richard Spencer about how we need to plan for a Trump victory.” Spencer is another prominent white nationalist – he heads the generic-sounding National Policy Institute. “I said: ‘I want Jared Taylor [of American Renaissance] as UN Ambassador, and Kevin MacDonald [an evolutionary psychologist] as secretary of health and Ann Coulter as homeland security!’ And Spencer said: ‘Oh Johnson, that’s a pipe dream!’ But today, he’d no longer say that, because if Trump wins, all the establishment Republicans, they’re gone… They hate him! So who’s left? If we can lobby, we can put our people in there.”

MAGA!  Pepe!  Kek!

Never forget – when the Quota Queens were engaging in the most pathetically deranged fantasy-mongering imaginable, I had already, for many months, correctly identified Trump as a fraud and a buffoon.

Speaking of frauds and buffoons:

It’s not every day that a brown journalist gets to sit in on a white-nationalist strategy meeting. 

Hey why not?  You could have invited Dees and Potok as well.  With all the information thus acquired, they could still be there at the SPLC today.  Open the doors to racial enemies; discuss strategy in front of opponents. When there is no accountability, you can do whatever you damn please! Consequences? Consequences? Quota Queens don’t care about no stinkin’ consequences!

But these are strange times. Racism is trending. Like Brexit, Trump has normalised views that were once beyond the pale, and groups like the AFP have grown bold. Their man’s stubby orange fingers are within reach of actual power, so maybe it’s time to emerge from the shadows at last.

Just in time to get elbowed in the face, censored, infiltrated, and deplatformed.

Eric is even more unexpected. Tall and impassioned, he came to racism via hypnotherapy, of all things. He sells solar panels for a living and practises yoga. Together with his friends Matt and Nathan, who are also here at lunch, he runs an alt-right fraternity in Manhattan Beach – “a beer and barbecues thing”. They’re called the Beach Goys. “We’re starting a parody band,” he beams. “We’ve found a drummer!”

Beavis and Butthead snigger in the background.

This is the white nationalist’s burden – the very people they’re trying to save are the ones who most fiercely oppose them.

True.  But then – how does the Left square that with the idea that “White supremacy” and “White privilege” are running rampant?

Identity Evropa – the Alt Right disorganization that Shabbos sud stepandfetchits sacrificed their military careers for:

“Awesome. Great to hear. Cool, so can you tell me a little bit about your heritage?”

Where do I start? “As far as I know, my great-grandfather was from Germany. My great grandparents on my mom’s side were from France, I think. . . So it’s all mostly German and French. And my last name is Argyle, so I’ve definitely got some Scottish in there. So all my relatives are white.”

“Yea. Good stuff. Probably northwest European. When I saw the Brooklyn, New York, I expected some Italian, you know, with the accent and everything.”

Good stuff! Northwest European!  Just like Hermansson!  Why let a little thing like being an anti-racist infiltrator get between a bit of friendly ethnic fetishism?  He’s reproducing your “group’s” failings for all the world to read, but, hey, at least he didn’t have “the accent and everything.” And, apparently, he used his real name during the “vetting” process. Equally apparently, the extreme vetting didn’t include a five second Google search.  And further, apparently, members doing the vetting have no problem joking about low-caste ethnies to prospective members.  After all, if the wogs find out, what are they going to do about it?  They’re too stupid and useless to even recognize how much they are despised, so who cares?. 

So, the whole thing is ironic. Still think that talk about “the ‘movement’s’ affirmative action program” is just paranoid nonsense?   What are the chances that “some Italian, you know, with the accent and everything” could become the leader of IE/AIM?  Even if that person was competent, didn’t have members on Disqus, didn’t do laughably incompetent “vetting,” and didn’t become a laughingstock? Answer: Probability of zero. They are of course welcome to send in their “membership dues” and do low-level scutwork for their betters.  So, the affirmative action program elevates to power incompetents and fetishists, who “vet” transparent infiltrators into meetings (a recurrent theme for the Quota Queens), and the incompetents mock people who probably could do a better job than them if given the chance (not saying much of course, since roadkill could do a better job as well).

Shabbos suds take note. Indeed, the shabbos sud and the shabbos ost stepandfetchits – and Der Movement itself – should carefully consider whether the “movement’s” dishonest treatment of Southern and Eastern European White ethnics is akin to “deceptive advertising” – which for a business entity is legally actionable. Particularly in those cases where “movement” entities take money from people – membership dues, donations, etc. – the analogy to deceptive business practices is clear.  Membership dues come with the expectation that the person giving the dues derives benefits from belonging to the entity they are giving to. If the assumed benefits are actually not true, a deception, that is fraud. If there are no actual benefits, legally it is a contribution, a donation, which can be obtained fraudulently as well. Read carefully, stepandfetchits, read this very carefully.

Is Trump just an idiot, or is he trying to appeal to Der Movement?  Of course, the two possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

Peas in a Pod: The Mendacious Left and the Retarded Right

Tweedledee and Tweedledumber.

What should the Left’s response be? In this case, the opposite of one-off theatrical actions and Instagram-able protests: a long-haul, multiracial, grassroots effort to educate the country on the profound connections between race and class (and the connections of both to gender).

You’ve been doing that for the last 50 years.  And that’s been going on in an intense manner – constant non-stop leftist propaganda – for at least the last 20 of those years.  It is obviously not working, is it?

If we are to learn anything from the eruption of fascist, White supremacist…

Anyone who uses the term “White supremacist” to describe White nationalists/White separatists is a low-character, fundamentally dishonest, piece of filthy scum.  Why should anyone listen to what else you have to say?

…organizing on both sides of the Atlantic, it should be that economic crisis and class conflict can accrue to the benefit of the Right as easily as the Left.

No worries.  The Far Right is so inept, the Left will likely win by default.  But they’ll lose by winning, because instead of creating a Utopia, a Paradise, a Heaven, they will instead create a Dystopian Nightmare Hell.

It should be that, as labor historian Jefferson Cowie recently put it, “real world” working-class politics in America “is a messy stew of populist, communitarian, reactionary, progressive, racist, patriarchal, and nativist ingredients.”

Then those ingredients are normal to human nature?  No worries, once again, because your own ethny, and of course your colored pets, are very intense on ethnocentric behavioral traits, while Whites are relatively weaker.

It should be that no group or class in America is inherently progressive, and no division lifted above others as essential.

Really?  The entire modern Left is defined by hostility toward Whites, particularly White men. Does class even matter anymore?  Does anyone believe that the Left cares more about some dirt poor White man from West Virginia than it does about a wealthy Negress celebrity from California?  Who’s kidding who?

Candid, self-supporting but nonjudgmental solidarity…

Candid?  The Left?  Nonjudgmental…including toward White men and Whites in general?  What fantasyland is this delusional (or mendacious) imbecile living in?

…is the only way forward: a true integration of issues (gender, race, class, sexuality, and others) with multi-issue education. A fight that targets systems, not “elites” who can turn into amorphous scapegoats, and radical coalition-building that combines assertiveness and humility are needed. It’s a daunting task, but nothing less is required.

The Left has nothing to offer Whites, particularly White men.  The existential meaning of the modern Left – what Sailer correctly terms “the coalition of the fringes” – is hatred of Whites, particularly White men. The targets of the Left’s hatred want no part of “racial coalition-building” with the people who despise them, and hardcore leftists do not want to build “coalitions” with White men. You’d think that Trump’s victory would have resulted in some honest soul-searching by the Left, but, no. They just doubled down on their hate. Whites have had enough of “multi-issue education” that ends up being a cult-like Orwellian “two minute hate” (lasting forever in actuality) against Whites. The Left is over-brimming with “assertiveness” and knows nothing about “humility” (your role model, AOC “I’m the boss,” can instruct you on that score).

You had your chance at “coalition-building” and muffed it, because the only coalition you really want is one that disenfranchises White interests. Whites as a race may be dumb cucks, but they’re not that dumb. It may be too late for Whites; it certainly is too late for any peaceful, aracial solution to the problems that have caused the pathetic examples of Far Right nitwitery that the author is so (hysterically) concerned about.

The Right:

Read this.  Still think that there is not an underlying agenda to marry racial activism with Judeophilia and Asiaphilia?  It would seem like reality is converging on Sallisian “paranoia.”

Yes, GDP is not everything. Racial homogeneity counts too.

But they’ll be giving you the UBI, don’t worry at all about it. And don’t think that they don’t equate “hate speech” with “terrorism.” The chickens come home to roost, decades of “movement” failure with zero representation in any of the halls of power means White advocates can be targeted for the most flimsy of reasons.


So much winning!  Sallis right again – Trump was always a fraud.


See here.  Note “based Austria” is part of the Far Left System.  As regards Trump:

President Donald Trump bears heavily responsibility for all this. While the president continues to enjoy stalwart support from his voters, the White House has shown the most abject cowardice in defending its own personnel. Speechwriter Darren Beattie was thrown aside the minute CNN complained. Thus staffer Taylor Weyeneth was also purged, along with others, when JournoFa demanded it.
For all Trump’s bluster against the “fake news,” journalists have far more power over Trump Administration personnel than the president himself. This feeds the beast of Political Correctness and emboldens journalists to seek more scalps.
As Jared Taylor said in a powerful video taped before his trip, the president has done nothing to stop the deplatforming and censoring of his supporters.
Trump even seems to have abandoned his fight for the white working class, a group he no longer even mentions (unlike Andrew Yang.) Instead, he makes tiresome boasts about low black and Hispanic unemployment. [Stop bragging about black and Hispanic unemployment rates, by John Crisp, VC Star, February 24, 2019] Winning issues like Official English are simply ignored, as is the president’s immigration platform. Only the most self-interested shill or brain-dead Conservative Inc. huckster could be surprised that Bernie Sanders now holds a commanding lead over President Trump in Pennsylvania. [Poll: Biden, Sanders hold double-digit lead on Trump in Pennsylvania, by John Bowden, The Hill, March 29, 2019].

Time for Roissy to post a gif of Trump strutting like Vince McMahon.  After all, we must know our priorities.  Note the bit about Sanders’ support in Pennsylvania. Is that due to all dem dere Amish switching sides, Roissy?  More accurately – Trump won Pennsylvania because of White ethnic working class Reagan Democrats, who are drifting away from the GOP now that Der Trumpening has been unmasked as a Neocon fraud.


And, again, the “movement’s” humiliation with the collapse of the Trump narrative should have led them to a period of introspection and prudent restraint regarding mainstream politics. Instead, they’ve been lurching around like  a bunch of seasick drunken retardates, first with a brief fling with Tulsi Coconut and know with their newest man-crush on Andy Eggroll. They’re pathetic.

More extreme vetting no doubt.  Where’s Patrik Hermansson when you need him?

Full Metal Jerkoff

Der Military.

Read this.  Excerpts below.

Leaked chat logs have connected seven current members of the U.S. armed forces to a white nationalist group, according to a HuffPost investigation.

For years, Identity Evropa members have used a server on Discord, a group chat app popular among the alt-right, to send messages to one another. 

Opsec?  Why?  Why use “a group chat app?”  And if you do use it, why discuss where you did ROTC, your school wrestling career, and what your Dad does for a living?

Last week the independent media collective Unicorn Riot published the contents of that Discord server in its entirety. 

How did this happen? Infiltrators? Discord itself? 

A largely anonymous network of anti-fascist activists…

Never any leaks, infiltrations, etc. from that direction.  Have you ever noticed that?

…reviewed the Discord logs, using biographical details mentioned…

Mentioned why? 

….by Identity Evropa members, most of whom posted under pseudonyms, to uncover their offline identities.

Building off that research, HuffPost verified the identities of seven men currently serving in the military. 

So, Huffpost is the media outlet for Antifa?

The Marine Corps, the Army, the Air Force and the Texas National Guard confirmed to HuffPost that the identified men were active members in those services. After HuffPost’s inquiries, the military is investigating some of the men’s possible ties to Identity Evropa….

So, essentially the Far Left works hand-in-glove with the military-industrial complex – just as we already know they work with globalist big business interests.

Kathleen Belew, the author of Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America, told HuffPost that white nationalists in our armed forces pose a clear danger. 

Gangbangers, Middle Eastern terrorists, dual loyalty foreigners…all of course pose no danger whatsoever.

The group has been working to infiltrate the GOP — one member won an uncontested seat on his local Republican Party committee — and recruit members on college campuses. A recent report from the Anti-Defamation League found that Identity Evropa’s campus flyer campaigns were partly responsible for record-setting levels of white supremacist propaganda spotted across America last year. 

In theory, that’s good.  Let’s give credit where credit is due (in theory, if not in practice). Infiltrating the System is a good idea.  You just have to work on secure communication and proper vetting.

Days after the chat logs were published, Identity Evropa’s leader, 29-year-old Patrick Casey, a resident of Virginia who rose to a leadership role after producing videos for a white nationalist site, announced a rebrand: Identity Evropa is now the American Identity Movement. 

That’ll fix the problem!  AIM!  Are we sure that doesn’t stand for Advanced Idea Mechanics? What’s MODOK’s cephalic index? Looks rather brachycephalic to me.  A no good Alpinid!

The problem was not with the name or symbolism, it  was, and still is, with the people, particularly the leadership.  Now, there is a worse name, worse symbolism, but the same failed leadership.  Surprise!

A list of the servicemen in Identity Evropa identified by HuffPost is below.

Members In The U.S. Marine Corps

Stephen T. Farrea…Jason Laguardia…

Shabbos sud stepandfetchits?  That’s not going to work out for you guys.  Experto crede.

A photo from a gathering of the American Identity Movement, originally called Identity Evropa, posted to Twitter in March 2019. Laguardia, a Marine, can be seen in the photo.

Posted to Twitter.  Why?

Col. Ted Wong, a spokesperson for the U.S. Marine Corps, told HuffPost in a statement that the branch is investigating Farrea’s and Laguardia’s connections to Identity Evropa. 

“There is no place for racial hatred or extremism in the Marine Corps. Our strength is derived from the individual excellence of every Marine regardless of background,” Wong said. “Bigotry and racial extremism run contrary to our core values. The Marine Corps will investigate the allegations and take the appropriate disciplinary actions if warranted.” 

After all, someone named “Wong” is just the person to tell White Americans what is or is not appropriate behavior in our armed forces.

Here’s a secret video of an Alt Right Marine Corps meeting.  The Blacks in attendance are members of the Yang Gang – or perhaps simply mistaken for wops and dagoes.

Lawrence of Eurabia referred to biographical information in his chats. 

Why?  For what purpose?  No one (legitimate) should have wanted to know any of it, and he shouldn’t have wanted to share it.

He said he is a member of the ROTC program at Montana State University in Bozeman and is in the Army National Guard. He also said that he was a wrestler in high school from a town in Montana and that his dad worked as a stonemason there. 

Why didn’t he just post his social security number, fingerprints, and retinal scan?

Those details match publicly available information about Jay C. Harrison, 20…

Well, you couldn’t have gotten any more detailed.

And the article continues in this vein, in more painful embarrassing detail.

Compare the advice given to young activists by Sallis to the Warrior of Walmart mocking the idea of people infiltrating the System and building infrastructures in depth.  Sallis – correct. The Quota Queens – wrong.

Now, you may say, but isn’t infiltration what IE was doing?  In theory, yes, in practice, no.  Moles are supposed to burrow deep, not cheerfully discuss the most minute details of their lives on Discord, pose in publicly available photos, etc.  That’s not infiltration.  That’s people setting themselves up to get infiltrated.

You want these guys in the military to either:

A) Rise through the ranks and be in a position to do good.  You want them to be the higher levels guys doing the investigating, not the lower level schlubs getting investigated.

B) Put in your time, get an honorable discharge, and use that military experience to train cadres, quietly, behind the scenes.

Sallis advises to build your careers and lives, take care of yourselves first, and infiltrate the System.  The Warrior or Walmart ridicules the idea of slow and patient infiltration – instead, mount the ramparts (dressed like Batman or Captain America or wearing a TWP t-shirt with Codreanu’s picture on it), and proclaim your allegiances to the rooftops.

As far as this military fiasco goes, those fellows are young and they really didn’t know any better.  The real fail here was with “movement leadership” who’ve been making the same types of mistakes over and over again.  

My advice to activists, particularly young ones, remains – at least for the time being, drop out of active participation in Der Movement (and that includes giving “D’Nations”). You can continue reading the blogs, educating yourself, keeping track of the “movement,” but concentrate on yourself and making your own life better.  To the extent possible burrow deep into the fabric of the System.  But don’t actively participate in anything, including meetings, until such time that competent leadership arises – finally!– to put things right.

And yes, there here is real funny.  Perhaps Hermansson would like to give a meeting keynote address on the dangers of Discord.

Thursday Thoughts

On activism.

Attention, Greg Johnson; comment from YouTube:

LaserGuidedLoogie

1 day ago

Tell us again how “WN 2.0” is doing it better, because you know, “we are all so much smarter guies!”

WN 1.0 guys figured out 20 years ago:  You don’t talk to the enemy media.

WN 2.0 is a joke, and WN 3.0 is a plan for pathetic failure.  WN 1.0 was a failure as well, but at least it didn’t pretend to be anything other than it was – a tiny group of Nutzi freaks.

Does Hood really believe this is a realistic possibility?

Interesting comment:

Publius

I recently watched the movie “a beautiful mind” for the first time in a long time and it got me thinking. The greatest mathematical achievement that any scientist could achieve would be to solve the problem of the prisoners’ dilemma. The whole civilized world knows what is needed (Just look at the comments on any web location where comments are permitted), but anybody who acts is a Lonewolf who goes straight to jail or death by cop. No one man can do anything. How can a person act and have faith that 100 million brothers will act with him simultaneously?

I have written about this before.  Even though the great mass of Whites are useless cucks, and our situation is grim, there is likely many more people who could be on our side, but are, practically speaking, not, in the sense of being completely inactive.

Whites are atomized, not knowing who is a friend or an enemy, racial-politically speaking.  If you were to speak out, would any of the “six percenters” come to your aid? Is it possible to organize all (or any) of this unused human material, when everyone mistrusts each other?  If everyone is waiting for “the other guy” to get something started, then obviously nothing will ever get started (the current “movement” tragicomedy does not constitute such a “something’).  This is one reason the System cracks down on any public expression of pro-White attitudes, and why pro-Whites are deplatformed, and why the System uses a private army of leftist thugs to physically attack people like Spencer, and do so with impunity.  They are afraid that once a nucleus is formed (once again – this is NOT the current Der Movement), then all sorts of possibilities emerge that would not be conducive to the long term stability of the multicultural System.  

And, by the way, this is why all of the infiltration that Johnson so blithely shrugs away is so destructive, even though the direct and immediate impact was not so great. Besides the issue of revealing the horrifically bad judgement of “movement leaders,” and besides the public humiliation for the “movement,” it also reinforces the narrative that fellow Whites cannot be trusted, that your potential allies may be infiltrators, and that it is better to just hunker down alone (snug in your hobbit hole, perhaps?) and do nothing.  The damage done by Hermansson and Lewis was incalculable.

Once again: The existential meaning of Asians is hatred of Whites.  Even if every Jew in America were to disappear tomorrow, South Asians would fill the gap as the verbally-adept hectoring anti-White elite, with East Asian providing the technical “muscle” for the anti-White pan-colored alliance.  But, isn’t that what HBDers like Sailer want?  Wouldn’t his buddies from GNXP object to any skepticism about a Camp of the Saints invasion of America from the Ganges?  

This is interesting, but remember that Crick was a scientist, not an HBDer.  Ultimately, it was about facts and the truth, not politically-motivated “just so” stories to push a Jewish-Asian agenda at the expense of Whites.

Shockingly, Zman makes good sense here:

This is why civic nationalism is a dead end movement. It’s trying to reanimate an Enlightenment concept that was killed off by the post-war cultural revolution of the last fifty years. Reviving the old notions of civic identity is about as promising as reviving the monarchy in Germany. Thinking about it is a nice escape for those struggling to face the reality of identity politics, but that’s all it is, a fantasy. The world created by the Left is a post-nationalist world and therefore a post-citizen world.

Paying attention, Breezy?

This is incorrect.  What the Alt Right was really all about: Pepe, Kek, Beavis-and-Butthead drunken podcasts, Trump worship, complete misunderstanding of population genetics, covering typical fossilized “movement” dogma with a veneer of “youth culture” juvenile jackassery, cosplay rallies – in other words, WN 2.0.

Countering Counter-Currents

In der news.

Greg Johnson:

Our movement is small, fragile, and easily demoralized. Allowing ourselves to become excited by transparent fakes only lays the foundation for another demoralizing failure.

Hmmm..ya think?  Maybe you guys can stop with the Man on White Horse Syndrome, including one “leader” (Who?  Who was it?  Who? Let us think real hard) breathlessly worrying that the new American Caesar Trump was going to make major improvements in American demographics, thus stabilizing the System and making WN more difficult in the long run.

Alert, alert: monumental lack of self-awareness.  And speaking of transparent fakes: Patrik Hermansson?  Dave Lewis?

And the whole Counter-Currents hostility toward Tommy Robinson is tiresome.  I could care less about Robinson, but that’s the point.  I’m not going to waste time going in that direction, either pro or con.  Is it that some folks get disturbed when the attention (and, hence, the shekels) flow away from them and toward someone else?

Meet Jared Spencer Johnson

The title of the post will become clear at the end: the post itself is an evaluation of judgement and accountability.

Last year, the Northwest Forum’s June and August meetings had three infiltrators. One was Patrik Hermannson of Hope Not Hate. The second was the girlfriend of a member of the local Cascadia group. The third was David Lewis, a Seattle journalist.

I will give Johnson credit here for admitting an unpleasant truth – it wasn’t two infiltrations, it was three.  But the second one described here – the yeastbucket infiltration – is puzzling. Was the Cascadia member an infiltrator himself (using the masculine here, since I’m assuming we are not talking about lesbians)?  If not, if he’s sincere, then why was his girlfriend an infiltrator?  Was she an anti-racist honeypot with a mission to infiltrate the Far Right by hooking up with a Nutzi?  Were they a genuine couple and the guy was too clueless to know she was a leftist?  Der Movement is so bizarre that anything is possible?  Update: this is sort of answered below.

Obviously, we needed to rethink our vetting procedures.

You think?

Hermansson got in because he was vouched for by the organizers of The London Forum. 

That includes a grown man who attends meetings wearing shorts (hint: a London Forum meeting is not the Afrika Korps in the North African desert; there’s no reason for a mentally competent adult to attend such a meeting wearing shorts) and who blows Viking horns.  I mean, why doubt such a stalwart fellow?

The London Forum generally has very good security, so I thought it reasonable to trust them. 

See above.

This was obviously a mistake. 

The mark of a prudent and competent leader is to realize the obvious in advance, not in retrospect.

Simply being vouched for is not enough. We need to take an independent look into everyone who is sent our way.

I could have told you that from the beginning.  It’s the same thing I was telling IRL Nutzis 20 years ago.  

 In Hermansson’s case, simply asking him to show me picture ID before we sat down to an interview would have been enough to expose him as a fraud.

But you didn’t do it.

But here’s the rub: virtually everyone at the June 2017 Northwest Forum would have refused to give his picture ID, even the ones who later whined most loudly about the security breach. 

There’s no “rub.”  If the people don’t trust the meeting organizer enough to show picture IDs (and here the lack of trust would have been justified), then what’s the point of attending a “extreme vetted” meeting?  How is this “building a community?”  

Indeed, most of the people in the Cascadia group knew each other only by online aliases. 

All that security botched by the incompetence around them.

I even wonder if the fellow whose girlfriend later declared herself an infiltrator knew her real name. 

That comment lends credence to the honeypot hypothesis.  Regardless of how the loving couple met, we ask: what kind of unmitigated idiot brings to a private Far Right meeting a “girlfriend” he obviously knows little or nothing about?  Let me guess: this must be one of the wonderful Alt Right WN 2.0 Millennials who is going to save the White race.  Hail Pepe!  Hail Kek!  Sane response: flush the entire “Cascadia group” down the Type I toilet.  Der Movement talks big about “eschewing defectives.”  Case in point, no? 

Obviously, in such a culture, “extreme vetting” is just a meme, and I was foolish to think that anyone vouching for any individual was meaningful.

Just a meme.  Very nice.  You know, the sincere activists who attended probably expected “extreme vetting” that was not “just a meme.”  I cannot understand, cannot fathom, why all you rank-and-file activists out there accept this Keystone Cops routine

As for the Lewis breach: that was entirely my fault, for which I am sorry. 

That’s not accountability.  Real accountability is taking action instead of saying “sorry,” said action including admitting you are not cut out for a leadership role, and making way for people who are.

Again, though, his cover would have evaporated if I simply asked to see his picture ID. Fortunately, the Hermansson story had already weeded out the people who were most skittish about doxing. 

Chutzpah alert!  Johnson’s third mistake is explained and excused by the fallout from his first mistake.

Beyond that, Lewis was simply a journalist looking for the opportunity to sell some snark, not an antifa agent, and as far as I can tell, the only people harmed by his story were the perfectly nice people who rented the venue to us. They got some bad publicity and were shaken down by local Leftists, who offered to take the blood money we had paid them, to cleanse them of guilt by association. Such is the price of doing business in the liberal utopia of Seattle.

Dear god, he still doesn’t get it.  Dr. Johsnon: the point is not what damage these people did, the point is your bad judgment (and that of Steadman and others) for allowing it to happen in the first place.  The same lack of judgment can – and likely will – lead to an even greater disaster in the future.  We are not talking about 20-something people here. If middle-aged men cannot show minimal judgment by now, they likely never will.

At that point, I decided to quit doing The Northwest Forum. 

Good call.  Some good judgment at least.

But others in the Northwest wanted to continue it.

Two Proposals for Dealing with Inflitrators

Two proposals to deal with the infiltrator problem were discussed but ultimately rejected for reasons outlined below.

The first suggestion was simply to make The Northwest Forum a public event, open to all who buy tickets. This would make a virtue of necessity. It would make publicity work for us rather than against us.  It would attract new people who are not afraid of attending public events, and it would keep skittish people away. (No vetting procedure can be 100% foolproof, and public meetings strip away any false sense of security.)

The sense of security was “false” because the genuine attendees were misled that there was going to be “extreme vetting,” rather than letting any Swede or movie critic walk in without interference.

The second suggestion was to allow journalists to cover the event as long as they would abide by the same rules set down at the American Renaissance conference, namely that they would be clearly identified as members of the press (with the equivalent of a yellow star) and would not disclose the names or faces of attendees without their permission. The benefit of this is that our message would not be confined to just the people present. The media would carry at least some of it to the larger public.

Both of these suggestions would deal with one of the main problems of private meetings: namely, the fact that they can be framed as “secret” and thus invite “undercover” journalists and antifa. Leftists wish to frame our activities as secret because they wish to make them seem sinister, even criminal, with the eventual goal of using the state to ban our ideas and their dissemination.

For instance, Patrick Hermanson’s entire “scoop” from The London Forum and the Jonathan Bowden Dinner consisted of framing information that he could have gotten without false pretenses as the result of an undercover investigation at sinister secret conclaves. But I said nothing to Hermansson’s hidden microphone that I had not said in public many times before, and my picture had already been released online by movement scum.

I presume the “scum” in question is The Movement Critic. Now, while I appreciate The Movement Critic blog, I do not agree that Johnson’s picture should have been revealed, that’s a form of doxing and is unacceptable.  That said, Johnson’s continued attempts to offload accountability by repeatedly downplaying the impact of the infiltrations, are, frankly, disgusting. So, then, if The Movement Critic had not posted Johnson’s picture, then Hermansson would have been the first to do so. Regardless of the specific outcomes, the piss-poor judgment underlying the Hermansson infiltration remains the same.  It does not matter – repeat, IT DOES NOT MATTER – that the “scoop” wasn’t that damaging.  It could have been, had Hermansson not been a bumbling amateur, or if he had decided to stay undercover longer and really burrow his way in deep as a mole (for that matter, we do not know if any such moles already exist).

Furthermore, to underscore how completely unnecessary Hermansson’s deception was, a legitimate journalist was present at the same London Forum meeting and Jonathan Bowden Dinner. She was identified as a member of the press and agreed to respect people’s privacy, and she heard basically the same things that Hermansson did, without the necessity of deception.

More misdirection from Johnson.  The point is that a more competent and dedicated (and patient) infiltrator than Hermansson could have leveraged the lax security and ethnic fetishism to become deeply integrated within the Alt Right, including Counter Currents, and have done incalculable damage.  Question: why do typos in a job application scare off potential employers?  Is it because the typos are damaging in and of themselves?  No, it is because a person who would submit a sloppy resume is someone who cannot be trusted to show the attention to detail to perform the job effectively.  Likewise, the problem with these infiltrations is not what the immediate outcome was, the problem is in what it tells us about “movement” “leaders.” The problem is with the poor judgment and easily-manipulated obsessions of “leaders” – not that the infiltrators did or did not do any specific action.

This frankly, is the only benefit to having mainstream media around, since we have our own media to get our messages out. We can, for example, post videos and audios of Northwest Forum speeches online, for the whole world’s edification.

Why We Will Not Invite the Press…Beyond that, the purpose of events like the Northwest Forum is not merely to disseminate ideas. After all, we could do that online without leaving the privacy of our own homes. The main purpose of the Forums is to promote face-to-face community and networking. Having speakers is simply an additional incentive to get people to come to events. Such networking and community building cannot take place at public events, where members of the press and complete strangers are free to roam about.

Networking and community cannot take place either at private meetings where every other attendee is an infiltrator.

The Way Forward

Public events are a way of combating a false sense of security about doxing. But the best way to do that is to give people a real sense of security by establishing better vetting. Thus, going forward, Northwest Forum events will be for a closed circle of highly vetted people. No more aliases. No more loose vetting and vouching. The people who are continuing the Forum all know one another’s real names and addresses. If you want to join that circle, you will have to:

pay for a background check to verify your identity

present picture ID to register

And don’t forget your Swedish passport for immediate admittance, no vetting required.  Cephalic index measurements optional.

And, how about some transparency on your part?  Who is going to have access to this personal information?  Greg Johnson?  Patrik Hermansson?  Who?  Who is going to be responsible if something goes wrong?

Should we have had these sorts of procedures in place from the beginning? No, for the simple reason that the Forums never would have gotten off the ground. 

Absolute bullshit.  No, you could have gotten the Forums “off the ground” with a very small circle of highly trusted people – like you are suggesting now after the fact! – and slowly built it up over time.  You could have built up trust by running successful and non-infiltrated meetings. Johnson argues here that AFTER he has botched the meetings by allowing the infiltrations, NOW is the time to tell people to reveal their personal information to leaders who have lost the confidence of activists by repeated bouts of bad judgment.  He’s got the entire order of things reversed.  Better to have a successful private meeting with three people, then “off-the-ground” forums publicly infiltrated and subverted.  Over time, the three could have become six, then twelve, then thirty, then sixty.  You don’t first allow infiltrations and expose yourself to public ridicule from the likes of Hermansson and Lewis and then turn around and say, “hey after all our successes, now you guys have to prove your identity.”  Madness.  Madness.

Still, we managed to have three very successful meetings 

”Very successful.“ Madness.  Sheer madness. Is being delusional sufficient grounds for being dismissed as leadership material?

…even with loose vetting, and those meetings formed the basis for ongoing real-world relationships, which created a desire to continue the Forums and a willingness to adopt stricter vetting going forward.

That self-serving mendacity is beyond disgraceful.

The Northwest Forum will continue as a private event. We will not seek publicity. Who attends and what is said will be off the record, although we will continue to record some of the presentations for future release with the permission of the speakers. We will do our best to keep away journalists and other antifa, but please bear in mind that no vetting is foolproof, and no real-world meeting is without risk.

No vetting is foolproof, but it would help if there are vetting criteria other than “are you Swedish?’ or “are you a movie critic?”  or “are you someone’s girlfriend?”  

If you wish to be invited to future Northwest Forum events, please email samantha.hilton@protonmail.com

The next Northwest Forum will be held in Western Washington on Saturday, March 24, from noon to 5 pm. The speakers include Greg Johnson, James Allsup, Matt Flavel, and C. B. Robertson. I hope to see you there.

Is there a reason to announce any of this information in advance?  After the fact, you can discuss the wonders of your super-secret meeting, particularly if you have more genuine attendees than infiltrators this time.  But why give out any information on a public forum in advance?  Where’s the percentage in that?

I need to stress this point: it is the judgment not the outcome that is the issue here.  To better illustrate this point, let us consider two scenarios:

Scenario A. John Doe organizes a private racialist conference.  Doe does everything right and has air-tight security at the meeting, couldn’t have done it better.  The keynote speaker is an internationally known and respected racialist activist, Jared Spencer Johnson, who has been a leading figure in “movement” circles for almost 30 years.  Johnson later mingles with the crowd, recruits people to join his organization, gets subscription information for his journal, and is accepted into the local activist community.  Later, it is revealed that Jared Spencer Johnson is a mole, a deep-cover infiltrator into racial nationalism, supported and funded at the highest levels, who now takes all his information and connections and uses those to wreck the “movement” and specifically to wreck John Doe’s local group.

Scenario B. John Doe organizes a private racialist conference using piss-poor judgment, laughable “operational security, and does almost everything wrong.  A comically inept infiltrator, Nordrik Swedensson, is welcomed into the local group with no vetting at all; later Swedensson comes out as an infiltrator and writes a tawdry “tell-all” piece about his time with the local group.  In the end, no lasting damage is done.

Obviously, the outcome of A is much worse than that of B.  Equally obviously, A does not really reflect badly on John Doe’s judgment – after all, if Jared Spencer Johnson is a mole, anyone could be.  At that level of deception, worthy of a Le Carre spy novel, Doe cannot realistically be blamed for the outcome.  However, in B, Doe’s behavior and lack of judgment demands censure, and the fact that the outcome was better than in A was due purely to luck and circumstances.

By the way, in Scenario A, one could speculate that Jared Spencer Johnson was allowed to infiltrate and worm his way to the top in the first place because of the bad judgment of other people decades in the past.  So, yes, some people are responsible for Scenario A, just not John Doe.