Category: Rome

Odds and Ends, 10/15/19

And the jackass Zman.

Mota Marin ceremony 2014.

Lowell Presente.

Good Strom piece.

Italianthro is gone.  Was he intimidated by Greta Thunberg?

Fighting predatory, invasive, non-native species.  Good idea.  Let’s talk immigration.

I agree with dat dere Rienzi guy.

Jim Colosimo – “swarthy animal magnetism” – Der Afrowop.

Codreanu tribute music.

More Zman:

I had an early flight out of Copenhagen back to Lagos, so I did the sensible thing…

For a Type I Alt righter

…and went out with the conference goers until the early hours…

Beavis and Butthead snigger.

…We have a lot of South Asians, who are not big on daily bathing. There’s usually one on the plane, so be prepared for it. On one trip, I saw one so ripe that the flight crew hung an air freshener on the seat backs…

The South Asian special – body odor mixed with cheap cologne.  A hallway or stairwell will stink of that for, literally, hours after one of the cogelites walk by. It is difficult to restrain from vomiting. Experto crede.

…started to think about those people living in the Roman Empire wondering why the water no longer comes from the big stone thingy anymore. 

Because invading Germans wrecked them?

Some may have remembered their ancestors working on them for some reason, but they no longer recall why. 

What bullshit.  When the water stopped running, it was because the city was sacked by, and later mismanaged by, the Holy Ones.

The people who knew how and why those aqueducts worked were long gone. No one was around who could figure out how to make them work again, because they lacked the capacity to do it.

Absolute, raging bullshit.  The water stopped flowing after the fall of the empire. Who was running the show then?  Maybe folks who never built aqueducts in the first place. Odoacer: “What’s that big stone thingy?  Can my horse drink out of it?” Hey, Zman, take your Kempian lies back to “Lagos.” By the way, the “Lagos” joke is so stale by now it’s starting to stink like one of Zman’s South Asians.

I got into Montreal looking forward to some lunch. I had a good long nap and my olfactory receptors were cleansed of Mr. Bong’s stink, by the waves of perfume from the shopping area passengers are now forced to endure at airports. Everyone is forced through a shopping zone now, as they want to make sure you are always ready to consume next product. As a result, airports now smell like the dressing room of a strip club…

Zman knows how they smell.  Interesting.

Normally, when you connect on an international trip, you just walk to the next gate and maybe you have to go through passport control. In Montreal, I had to go through customs, then security and then passport control again. It was a slow mess…

But I thought all of the excess bureaucracy in Europe was because of the EU. You mean, it is in Canada as well?

I finally made it back to Lagos with a collection of great memories of a wonderful time with friends in the European scene. Frodi is a great host and wonderful person.  I’m thankful for having got to know him and now count him as a friend…

But he can’t understand a simple concept even when explained to him repeatedly over a period of months.  Well, he works with Counter-Currents….

They’re Lying to You

Can’t get their stories straight.

From a previous post, we remember this nonsense.

Now, here’s a key part:

There is a right-sizing to assimilating and naturalizing other peoples. Rome did well with assimilating Europeans with Indo-European/Early Farmer genetic stock, had more problems when it came to Indo-European/Western Hunter Gatherers from the north, and they didn’t assimilate Jews at all.

The implications of that is that the Romans (and other European peoples they assimilated well; for example, the other peoples that were located in what today is Italy, as well as the Greeks) were predominantly “Early European Farmer,” and these peoples were distinct from the more problematical northerners who were predominantly “Western Hunter Gatherer” (with low levels of “Indo-European” in both). This is consistent with the idea of the HBD-Nordicists of a North-South European difference in place dating back thousands of years, since the Neolithic.

Ahh…but the mainstream Nordicists of Der Movement, the Kempian Nordicists, have long told us that the ancient peoples of the Mediterranean – Romans, Greeks, etc. – were Nordic.  The original Roman stock were akin to Dolph Lundgren in a toga.  Except, now, the HBD-Nordicists say, well, that’s not the case, the folks in the togas were “Early Farmers” and the Dolph Lundgrens were “Western Hunter Gatherers.”  No, no, a thousand times, no!  What would Arthur Kemp, David Duke, and Ash Donaldson say?  Blasphemy!  March of the Titans!  Pierce weeps!  Who We Are!  

Taking all of these fetishists as a whole – and they should be taken as a whole since they post on the same blogs and are in fundamental agreement on most things and won’t even openly acknowledge the contradiction outlined above – we can see that they cannot get their story straight.  And when folks cannot get their story straight, what does that tell you? That they are LYING to you. Der Movement has been openly lying to you about race for many decades.  Lie after lie after lie and now they cannot keep their lies straight, so they practice cognitive dissonance and pretend that their views are not internally inconsistent. Assuming that they are not so stupid (or deluded by blind fanatical dogmatic faith in their fetishistic belief systems) that they cannot realize the contradiction, then they must hold you in utter contempt, assuming that you won’t notice it (to be fair to them, most “activists” actually do not notice it).

Also note how this guy uses the term “Early Farmer” while the correct term used in the literature is “Early European Farmer” – have to delegitimize the “European bonafides” of that group, eh?  Wipe that sweat off your forehead, fetishist.

Sweden’s native population contains the most Western Hunter Gatherer DNA, and Sicily’s people have the most Early Farmer genetic material. Sweden’s population is highly individualistic, but operates with a societal consensus, while Sicily has strong families but little cooperation at the societal level.

Gee, you think that the long history of invasion and foreign domination in Sicily may have something to do with it as well?  Also, there is my theory of genetic heterogeneity, which builds upon the observation that diversity decreases the willingness to invest in collective social goods. This may hold true even in certain mono-ethnic societies, if the ethnies in question possess significant genetic heterogeneity, which is processed by members of that society through the proxy of phenotypic heterogeneity. The more different members of an ethny seem to each other, the less their willingness to invest in the broader society, and the greater the urge to invest in more “safe” concentrations of genetic interest, such as the family. Southern Europe has greater genetic heterogeneity than the North. Of course, ethnocentrism may play a role as well; although the North is more homogeneous, there are still some Bromstad/Bjork types there, who apparently do not trigger any anti-collective urges.  It is no doubt complex.

I believe that this Jewish ability to hijack altruistic punishment is unstable and only temporary. It is clear to this author that the single largest ethnic conflict in American history is that between Yankees and Jews. So far, the Jews have practiced aggression against the Yankee without receiving any response, but this situation will not continue indefinitely. People will always eventually respond to attacks.

Completely insane delusion.  Actually, according to the Lind thesis of American politics, the “Yankees” have been the most important and enthusiastic allies of the Jews in the destruction of America, and the unleashing of the Black/Brown plague on middle class and working class White Americans.  No, the single largest ethnic conflict is that of the Jewish-Yankee-Negro alliance vs. the White Southerner-White ethnic alliance, precisely what Lind outlined.  “Movement” heroes like John Lindsay, Hubert Humphrey, Elizabeth Warren, and Greta Thunberg are clearly on the side of Jewish interests, and all the sweaty fetishism and padded cell delusions can’t change that fact.

Stop lying, liars.

And if these guys truly believe that these differences between Europeans are so important, and if they will be honest enough to acknowledge the failures of the WHG-enriched “movement leadership,” why don’t they consider that it may be useful to get at least some input and leadership from more EEF-enriched individuals?  Perhaps some new perspectives would be useful?  But no.  They’d rather reinforce their monopoly than let others have a hand in the endeavor.

Yeah…let’s not disguise it.  First, all these types were foaming at the mouth that Trump the “God Emperor” was “the last chance for White America” back when I was openly calling Trump a race cuck and a buffoon and when Strom was telling you not to believe Trump. Second, and infinitely worse, Greg Johnson is STILL saying that Trump was/is “sincere” and is a “man of genuine greatness.”  That’s your WHG-enriched “leadership.”  Apparently, “social cohesion” is built by being painfully naïve, being wrong all of the time, and/or gaslighting readers in an attempt to avoid accountability for your endless failures and monumental errors of judgment.

8/12/19 News

News.

Does anyone see a common thread in these stories?  The Ames story alone would fit in well with The Good Shepherd, but not in the manner in which Der Movement obsesses over that movie – or, shall we say, one particular scene in that movie.

Der Movement, Der Movement, Der Movement marches on.

And the other shoe drops.

So much winning!

The current state of the “movement” – what an unmitigated disaster.  On the morning of Nov. 9, 2016, there were virtually unlimited opportunities for the “movement.”  There was enormous potential and it was all squandered, everything has been ruined – ruined by the Type I retards who make up the bulk of the rank-and-file and ruined even more by their affirmative action leadership, pathetic losers and professional failures whose only qualification for “movement leadership” is their ethnic background. 

And with all the serious issues as stake, “movement” “activists” are busy concentrating on what they perceive as crucially important matters – such as attempting to distort archaeogenetics findings even before they are published.

Reading online genetics forums, it seems like all my predictions about Der Movement’s reactions to the forthcoming Rome paper are coming true even before it is published.  The fetishists are foaming at the mouth, retconning their dogma with a vengeance.

Interestingly, many of these fetishists are Poles, who apparently believe that they’ll be accepted by NW Euros if they parrot then dogma even more vehemently than NW Euros do.  Fat chance of that.

Thus, the fetishists are pretending that the dogma was never that the Ancient Greeks and Romans (and Egyptians!) were Nordic. Oh no, perish the thought, that’s all down the memory hole.

Now, it’s that the Northern Italian-like real Romans were replaced (genocide!) by greasy Sicilian-like MENA immigrants.  And, of course, they say that assaying Ancient Rome is no different from assaying New York City – unless of course the findings were compatible with the original dogma and then they’d be crowing about the results and how “representative” they were.

The lesson here is that no matter what the findings of archaeogenetics, the fetishists will NEVER admit to being wrong. If a study demonstrated that King Leonidas was akin to a Nigerian, the fetishists would proclaim “Arthur Kemp was right!” – after all, in this scenario, Leonidas would be genetically distinct from modern Greeks, and wasn’t that all Kemp was saying?  Get with the program!  The fundamental dishonesty of these types is laughable.

Good to see that the Type Is have a good division of labor thing going on here.  Some of them keep busy retconning their disproved dogmas in truly Orwellian fashion, while others shoot up Walmarts and plan bombings, or look at child porn, which a certain VDARE contributor thinks should not be illegal.  

All of this is the direct outcome of Der Movement’s strict affirmative action policy.  Keep on enabling it, all you imbeciles out there.  And keep sending in those “D’Nations” to your “leaders” – after all, how else are they going to go on their trips to Europe while you sit in your parents’ basement, onanistically reveling over Durocher’s latest Unz posts?

El Paso and Rome in Der News

Related whether you realize it or not.

Recently, I told what I see as the truth about the El Paso shooting. Taylor has released a reasonably good video that is consistent with half of what I write – the part about the System and its hypocrisy, as well as that the System’s all-too-predictable reaction will only amplify the situation and make it worse, increasing, not decreasing, the probability of further violence.  The part where I also blame the “movement” because of its ineptness and history of constant failure was not discussed, but I didn’t expect that it would be.

Reading more online reaction to the upcoming Ancient Rome genetic study – that according to these commentators may not be released before next year at earliest (but who knows?) – I am getting a good idea about the approach that Der Movement is going to take here.  Allegedly, these people claim that the Iron Age Italian population, Etruscans, Samnites, etc. were shifted more in the NW direction compared to, say, the Imperial period, so that the former were more “West Med” and the latter drifting more in the direction of “East Med.”  One could suppose one scenario in which some Italic tribes moved into the peninsula from the north, being more similar to today’s Iberians and Southern French, and then subsequent population movement’s from the circum-Mediterranean region shifted the “centroid” more in the S. Italian direction.

I previously commented on this:

…the essential Der Movement narrative is not supported.  The only point of agreement (that no one has ever substantially argued against) is that the city of Rome (and some other areas) became more cosmopolitan during the Imperial Era. That there were migrants and slaves in the city is well known.  However, these data paint a crude genetic picture of a Republican Rome whose genetic centroid was Central Italian, a more Southern Italian Imperial and Late Antiquity Rome, and then shifting back to Central Italian in more modern times.

Without seeing the actual paper, it is difficult to comment in details; dealing with breathless accounts of “leaked PCAs,” it is difficult to any conclusions.  However, most probably, Der Movement’s strategy is going to be to concentrate on the fact that there was changes in the population composition over periods of centuries and millennia, an obvious process amplified by the cosmopolitan status of Rome, as well as known Greek influences from Rome southwards – while ignoring the fundamental “movement” thesis of a Nordic Rome in which the population was completely replaced by Levantines and other non-Europeans.  The original thesis will be shelved and West Med to East Med shifts (to the extend they occurred) put in its place.

Another point. Although PCA can be, with the correct computational approaches, be used to estimate ancestral proportions, etc., in and of itself, just looking at positions of samples, one cannot make determinations of ancestral origins per se.   That two samples are placed similarly in a PCA does not necessarily imply similar ancestral origins (although wide difference in position does suggest probably significant differences in at least some components of ancestry). As a purely hypothetical example, a person who is half Russian and half-Palestinian may cluster similar to Italians along clines of gene frequencies; this does not mean that Italians are half Russian and half Palestinian. One must distinguish centroids from individuals, and the presence of inhomogeneous elements from others – whether sample centroids shift due to the presence of individual outlier samples or because of actual admixture.  The direct relevance of all of this to genetic kinship and EGI is zero.

Finally, there is a connection between the first and last sections of this post.  If Der Movement was more concerned about the serious issues facing Whites today, instead of obsessing over the racial provenance of Plato and Julius Caesar, we wouldn’t have to waste time with issues of ancient genetics and instead focus on more relevant and pressing issues.  Again, that’s why Der Movement is partially responsible for El Paso.

More Movement Stupidity and Hypocrisy

In der news.

My riposte to this is as follows:

Press release!  Author of EGI Notes blames Greg Johnson (and other failed “movement leaders”) for El Paso shooting.

This is correct, but doesn’t go far enough. How about denouncing all the hysterical cheerleaders for Trump on the Alt Right?  The last chance for White America!  MAGA! Pepe! Kek!

More stupidity.  ‘White genes.”  Russians are “not White.”  Nitpicking over “genocide.” Completely unrealistic proposals.  Is it any wonder the mentally weak throw their hands up in despair and go shoot up something?  Der Movement is a pathetic embarrassing failure.

And then we have:

PJ Dooner says:
August 3, 2019 at 11:50 am
He might believe that Russia is mongrelized beyond repair: two of the policies that the jews implemented when they took over Russia a hundred years ago was to relocate huge numbers of “Russians” from more eastern areas into purely Slavic areas and outright mass murder of pure Slavs as in in Ukraine and of the ethnic Germans in the Volga area-the result is an enormous mixed-race population of Eurasian-Russians today–take a close look at the “Russians” you see on TV or the net, they almost all look mixed-race like Putin’s first wife, for example.

Unlike David Bromstad and family, or Bjork, who don’t look even the slightest Eurasian, right?  Mote and beam.  Look in your own eye, fetishists.

Uh-huh.  Note the discussion of alien civilizations at around the 50 minute mark.  My riposte is this.  That’s from 2018…the same year as the Wit’s End book.  Let’s see if the HBDers claim to have been the only ones to have invented this hypothesis.  A form of affirmative action I suppose; just like Blacks “invented” everything, the Quota Queens can do the same.

Not bad, not bad…figuring out in 2019 what I was telling all of you in 2016, before the election.

Other folks in 2016. Hail Trump!  MAGA!  Pepe!  Kek!

Them in 2019.

Looking at online discussion about the upcoming paper on Ancient Roman genetics, including mention of a “leaked PCA,” we see that Der Movement Strikes Back, desperately trying to save the dogma by wild interpretations.  You know, whether or not the Etruscans and Iron Age Italics clustered with Spaniards and whether later-age Romans clustered with South Italians (Genocide!  Levantine admixture!  Genocide!), I’ve yet to see anyone claim that any of these samples, from any era, cluster with Northern Europe. I thought the original ancients were all Nordic?  If the essential cline of Ancient Rome extends through the entire North Mediterranean basin – otherwise known as Southern Europe – that’s a refutation of the main points of “movement” dogma. That a cosmopolitan metropolis like Ancient Rome saw some population shifts as the capital of an empire is not surprising.  That’s not the point. The point is the official “movement” dogma that the original Romans were Dolph Lundgren in a toga, and there’s no evidence of that.  If there was a shift from Franco to Evola over time, that’s hardly SPQR Leif Erikson. I suppose that Der Movement will continue to retcon their dogma. Don’t let them do it. That’s putting aside the irrelevance of all of this to EGI-based biopolitics in 2019 – that’s 2019 AD, not 2019 BC.  But, Der Movement is going to be Der Movement and there’s no getting around it.

Another Answer to Retardation

He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do.

As regards this issue, see the comment below. I don’t agree with every detail, but the main thrust is generally in accord with my views, and the points to which I agree with most are highlighted. I am not correcting the various errors of writing or formatting; those are minor issues of no great relevance to the main themes of the comment.

GrandioseNationalist
Posted July 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm | Permalink
Another Nordicist who tries to “preach” us about history. This thing never ends; always trying to find artificial excuses to undermine Southern European contribution to Europe and further divide Europeans based on some outdated ideology. There’s a reason why the Star Systems and planets have Greek and Roman names and not Norse ones. See now how we’ve engaged in this fruitless debate that only serves our demise?
Furthermore all White Nationalists have to keep in mind a few things:
a) It’s not Greeks that have Turkish DNA but instead it’s the Turks that have Greek ancestry (along with other ethnic backgrounds). There is virtually no research or proof that shows that Greeks have Turkic ancestry. All racially mixed offsprings were either absorbed into the Turkish society or the Christian Orthodox women would commit suicide or murdered and shunned by their families before having kids with the “Muslim Oppressor”.
b) The Ancient Greeks had this ancient motto knows as “pas mi Hellen varvaros” which means “all non-Hellenes are barbarians”. Although there were some exception among the lines of the Persian, Celtic, and Roman kindred, Greeks shared an equal hatred even for each other (Spartans vs Athenians, etc.). Alexander was no exception, as the man who civilized the East.
c) Nordicist ideology has contaminated our tenets for more than a century and has only served to divide and conquer us, by placing basis on an abstract sub-racial division. There are Nordics common in all European nations just as there are Meds in Britain and Ireland.

c) Although not directly related to this article, it is vital to acknowledge that Pan-Europeanism is our only way out. When the Southern States, Southern And Northern Europe get overrun by migrants we ‘re gonna have to unite in a way that has never been done before. The US showed that White intermixia and nationhood is perfectly feasible and desirable if we proceed carefully step by step to that direction (that has already been happening for centuries now; look at us for example). It sure as hell didn’t lead to chaos and anarchy as some Ethnonationalists would wish. Now I’m saying this as someone who is of pure ethnic stock and has reached to that conclusion after lots of consideration and the studying of history.

The SYSTEM doesn’t give a penny or two about whether you’re Anglo-Celtic, Greek, Nordic, or what. All they see is a White person, and they attack our Whiteness because that’s the essence of our identity.

NATIONALISM is evolutionary: it extends for the POLIS to the REGION to the COUNTRY and eventually to the WHOLE RACE. By simply making a regression to these patterns would mean to be forced to repeat this endless loop of factricidal war and foreign infiltration. The Athenians would’ve objected to be united with the Spartans under the “generic definition” of the Greek, and they’d want to keep their “individual differences and have their separate ways”. Now that Greece is united, do you see any war between the two? Now they’re just Greeks and nothing else.

In less then two centuries time we’ll see the salvation of the White Race come to fruition under a life-saving fusion of all those who are Called Europeans akin to that in the US; under a centralized transcontinental state . Think on that.

The major problem with this well-meaning fellow is that he is wasting his time. He may as well talk to the wind for all the good it will do; he’ll get more of a useful response if he was addressing a pile of bricks.

It doesn’t matter that there is no evidence supporting the Counter-Currents viewpoint, it doesn’t matter that ancient DNA studies have so far refuted Kemp, none of that matters. When you are dealing with blind religious faith, facts do not matter and logic does not matter.  There is no place in Der Movement for pan-Europeanists, just as there is no place for Southern and Eastern Europeans. The Type Is have always had a stranglehold on control of the American “movement” and they will continue to hold on; if you want change, you’ll have to do it yourself by contributing to the formation of a new, alternative racial nationalist structure, a Type II-led movement.

I want to comment on this picture, much beloved by Nordicists. By modern phenotypic standards, we may say, subjectively, that Terentius Nero had an atypical phenotype. Very well.  So what?  That’s not evidence supporting that he was not of indigenous stock.  We do not know the range of indigenous phenotypes of ancient Italy.  For all we know, Nero’s phenotype  may have been common, at least among those of plebian stock, and may reflect Neolithic farmer ancestry. On the other hand, maybe he did have non-indigenous ancestry. Can you know any of that by looking at that one picture?  It’s not as if he looked like a Negro, a Chinaman, or David “Chopsticks” Bromstad, for example.

If you want to play the (frankly stupid) game of using single pictures to make snap judgments about an entire ethny, nation, people, or race, then what about this?  The ancient peoples of Italy were brown-skinned with black curly hair! Terentius the Etruscan!

This is the young Benito Mussolini, a representative of a people – Northern Italians – that Der Movement likes to tell us (absurdly) are “Celto-Germanic Nordics.” Judging by that picture, the typical Northern Italian male looks like the younger brother of General Mapache from The Wild Bunch.

By the standards of “one picture to judge a people,” I won’t get into what the Bromstad family, or Bjork, may tell us about Northern Germanics.

Meanwhile, on a completely different (of course!) matter, I’m working on a post or posts in which I am going to admit that Sallis was wrong about an issue concerning the “movement,” in contrast to certain academic types who were right.  Stay tuned!

Counter-Currents Goes Full Retard

The Counter-Currents threat.

Absolute Nordicist crap coming from the HBD “West Coast White nationalism” Counter-Currents blog.

Today, less than half of Greek Y-chromosomes are of European origin…

Imbecilic.  Whose definition of “European Y chromosomes” are you using? 

See here.  Let me guess – NRY found at high levels in Northern Europe are “European.” Those found at higher levels in Southern Europe are – of course! – “non-European.”  In fact, note that while there are differing frequencies, on a qualitative level there is overlap between the major types between North and South.

The cities St. Paul visited in his missionary travels and to which he wrote – Corinth, Thessalonica, and Athens – were no more necessarily Greek than New York City is Dutch because Dutchmen lived there three hundred years ago.

The Kempian argument.  Unfortunately, population genetics doesn’t agree, as the ancient Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically most similar to modern Southern Europeans, including modern Greeks, with a major difference being that modern Greeks have some degree of Slavic admixture.

And then:

The results of mass immigration and racial intermarriage can be seen in portraits that survived the destruction of the Italian resort-town of Pompeii in the first century AD. By that time, Roman women were dying their hair blonde and using lead acetate to make their skin whiter, in an effort to mimic the appearance of the original Romans and the few surviving noble families. Regardless of what the citizenship rolls said at any given time, centuries of population transfer had made true Romans so rare as to be statistically insignificant.

In response, see this.  We have to await the official publication, but I doubt it’ll match Nordicist expectations. By the way, ancient Etruscan phenotypes represented at that time as shown here.

Counter-Currents is openly lying to you  

Counter-Currents is peddling the same rancid “movement” dogma, which is being disproved by science, and that has no historical validity whatsoever.

It is obvious that Counter-Currents is becoming a nexus of the worst aspects of the “movement” – sweaty ethnic fetishism, tin cup panhandling, homosexual apologia, and backwards “traditionalism.” The destructive nature of the Counter-Currents infestation of racial activism is going to have to be a focus of the EGI Notes agenda.  We’ll need to take a closer look at this den of grifters, HBD traitors, fetishists, and perverts.