Category: Italy

Racial Odds and Ends, 1/4/17

Several items.

If the “twelve-year-olds” refer to “movement” “activists” in addition to TV media celebrities, then, yes, Ted really does think that.

A good analysis.

Anti-Italian ethnic fetishist Nicholas Farrell (who lives in Italy [*] even though he’s not ethnically Italian) now writes editorials for Amren.  Surprise!

*Living in Italy is a “nightmare” for Farrell.  Very good.  How about leaving then?  Oh well, he’s interbred with the locals apparently (which says nothing about his anti-Italianess, given how many White-hating Negroes mate with White women), so English nationalists are not going to want the Farrell clan in their nation either.  Oh my, Nick, what to do?  Continue living in Italy, negatively affecting Italian EGI, and complain what a terrible place it is (Farrell’s comments are for the most part legitimate observations of wopish incompetence, but that’s not the point – he’s not a wop so his complaints, while living in Dagoland, are the height of ethnic chutzpah [**]).  Again, a perfect writer for Amren.

**I guess I should move to China, shack up with a Chinatrix, and write anti-Chinese diatribes.  Alas, the Chinese have too much racial self-respect to put up with that for too long.

CRISPR Ethnocide, Italian Invasion, Spencer 2017

Several items.

Reading this, one can speculate on ethny-directed CRISPR ethnocidal weapons that target gene sequences specific to particular ethnic groups. The idea of “ethnic weapons” was brought up in the pre-CRISPR era, and would seem to be more and more realistic as biomedical approaches become more refined (what can be a delivery system? virus?).  Of course, the anti-CRISPR approaches outlined in the article could be a therapy for such weapons, but there would likely be a significant toll of morbidity and mortality from before such therapies could be mobilized.  It’s not like there is a stockpile of anti-CRISPR therapeutics lying around (although it may be prudent to start thinking about it).

Perhaps more than any other European nation, Italy has been dealing with the flood of African and Middle Eastern immigrants for years now. Entire regions of once beautiful Italian cities have become de facto slums and tensions are rising between the invaders and the Italians.

But, but, but…Sir Desmond Jones has stated that Italy is 100% ethnoracially homogenous and will remain so forever and ever, to the ends of time, amen.  When reality and Der Movement are in conflict, of course Der Movement wins!

Fisking the Alt Wrong

Derbyfogle and Breezy.

First, self-proclaimed child porn apologist John Derbyshire:

I don’t think Britain’s foggy affairs are of much importance to the U.S.A.

Yes, of what importance are the affairs of America’s founding nation, and the beginning of the break-up of the EU, to the USA?  Is this guy Derbyshire an idiot or what?

And as a true-born Englishman, with the blood of Alfred the Great flowing in my veins…

What blood does “Rosie” have flowing in her veins?  

…did his utmost to swap out Britain’s deplorably white Anglo-Saxon population

Just like you swapped out your “true-born English, deplorably Anglo-Saxon” parental kinship for half-Chinese children?

Italy has been ferrying in illegals from sub-Saharan Africa at an ever-accelerating rate: thirteen and a half thousand just last month—that’s compared with only three thousand in November last year. [Italy Breaks Immigration Record in 2016, by Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D. ,, December 11, 2016]
There’s beaucoup more where they came from, and no sign the Italians can muster the will to turn off the spigot.

Now, wait one minute here!  Italians are not “high trust northern hunter gatherer stock” whose “universal altruism is being manipulated” in contrast to “more ethnocentric peoples.” Being ethnocentric swarthoids from the hinterlands of humanity, it is quite obvious that this migrant influx simply cannot be happening to Italians.  But it is.  No worries, though.  Der Movement to the rescue!  It’s all because of those Nordic, Celto-Germanic, Dolph Lundgren-clone Northern Italians, who are accepting and housing all these migrants due to their innate hunter-gatherer universalism, in contrast to the more southern Negro Kebabs who have never seen, nor will ever see, even a single migrant.. Of course, most of these migrants are being brought into, and settling into, Southern Italy, but let’s not let dem dere facts interfere with Der Movement’s official script.  It’s all good!

If Italians think their government this past seventy years has been dysfunctional, wait till the lads from Lagos and Ouagadougou take over.
Italy’s a goner.

But, but, but…Sir Desmond Jones has assured us, repeatedly, that Italy is, and shall forever remain, absolutely ethnically homogeneous, to the end of time, forever and ever, amen.

Who thinks that foreign scofflaws should be awarded public goods at the expense of native taxpayers?

You mean, foreign scofflaws like the (former) illegal alien John Derbyshire?

Europe is toast.

Thanks for the dose of defeatism.  Don’t worry. The Derbyshire clan will always be welcome in the East.

Second, Breezy comes close to getting kicked out of the HBD club:

On the other hand, Protestantism wasn’t always against cousin marriage: e.g., Charles Darwin married his Wedgwood first cousin. But I don’t know how common this was. I believe that it was American eugenicists who launched the modern aversion toward cousin marriage in Protestant countries.

But, but, but…Hajnal line.  Watch it, Breezy, watch it. You may get your official HBD club membership revoked. And HBD Chick will hit you over the head with a rolling pin (still covered by matzoh ball dust).

Der Movement in the News, 8/29/16

Der Movement marches on.

Coming from Derbyshire of all people, here is a note (emphasis added) of interest to the good and great Sir Desmond Jones, who asserts with complete confidence that Italy is, and shall remain, 100% racially (and ethnically) homogeneous to the ends of time, forever and ever, amen:

The current focus of attention for the ongoing invasion of Europe is Italy. In the month of July twenty-five thousand illegals arrived in Italy from Africa. Twenty-five thousand in one month. And that was a twelve percent increase on July last year.

Put it another way, that would be 300,000 a year, although the numbers are actually smaller in the winter months. Let’s say to expect 200,000 this year. For comparison, the last year I can find numbers for, the year 2014, the number of live births in Italy was just over 500,000.

So the numbers coming in, almost all of them young men, are of the same order of magnitude as the number of new Italians being born.

Most of those July numbers came from Nigeria and Eritrea. Not many of them actually want to stay in Italy. They are aiming for the nations of northwest Europe, with their higher levels of prosperity and lusher welfare systems. That accords with the wishes of the Italians, who would prefer to just shunt them northwards.

Unfortunately the countries to the immediate north of Italy—Switzerland, France, and Austria—don’t want these invaders in their countries, even if they’re just passing through. Those countries have been fortifying their borders. So Italy is now experiencing what your plumber would call a nasty backup.

And here we see another “movement” advance:
This is a danger the Alt Right may face as well if it continues to grow in prominence. Already, we see attempts at co-option and a push to deny the role of race as central to the Alt Right.
I thought what is central to the Alt-Right was a combination of undercuts, Pepe the Frog, HBD race realism, “game,” and snarky juvenile comments? 

Clinton’s speech and commercial have all but coronated Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, etc. as the leaders of the New Right.

If we accept that, we’ve already lost before we’ve even begun. Can I choose my own leaders, please?  

That Erudite Cochran Again

More shallow stupidity.

Mr. Clogged Arteries writes:

Now you see some signs of other stuff in Sicily or Calabria today, but that seems to be later, from Arab or Byzantine times.

“Stuff.” What “stuff?” Lasagna? Olive oil? A horse head in a bed? Oh, the idiot is talking about population genetics. As is typical of HBD, the analysis is shallow. The relative genetic continuity in Italy (Ancient-Modern) – contra the heavy breathing “movement” and Arthur “Pesci” Kemp – is not simply due to “the slaves all died out” or “the slaves were mostly European” but likely a combination of those two: many, not all, of the slaves died out, and the ones who were assimilated were for the most part European, and the others mostly NECs not very genetically distant (as would be Nigerians or Chinamen) from the native population. It’s not that there was absolute zero genetic influx, that is absurd, it’s that the influx was much smaller than is popularly believed, and was mostly European (with some Levantines mixed in). Likewise, the “stuff” in “Sicily or Calabria” from “Arab or Byzantine times” was also much smaller than is popularly believed, and mostly Near Eastern/North African NECs; the combination of a small influx of peoples not enormously distant from the native population didn’t alter things too much (granted the Near Easterners and North Africans may have carried some sub-Saharan alleles). This later influx also (subsequently) included Normans, French, Spaniards, and North Italians, further adjusting the population back in the (overall genetic) direction of its original constitution.

Against Lynn: First RLP Blog Post Reproduced Here

Answering Amren lies.

I see that Lynn has been defending his Italian IQ nonsense against Unz, which found its way on Amren in August 2012 – Amren of course always being willing to attack gentile white ethnics while being hysterically reticent to feature anything even remotely negative about Jews. Lynn’s understanding of population genetics and racial history is very poor, and features outrageous cherry-picking and misinterpretation of single locus data, along with a reliance on studies from the mid-1990s, along with the false claim that published findings agree with his Kempian cartoon-like imaginative “history.” Reality can be better observed with this more recent autosomal work, which is by Northern Italian authors who themselves use Lynnian rhetoric, but show data not compatible with Lynn’s misinterpretations and distortions. See here.

It is clear that Northern Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Northern and Western Europeans. Central Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Northern Italians and Southern Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Central Italians. This in fact shows a very clear cline of gene frequencies, similar to what has already been shown by Novembre and colleagues (as well as others since then) – genes vary with geography. Looking at the data, it is clear that the three Italian groups are much more similar to each other than any are to the Northern and Western Europeans to the left or the Middle/Near Eastern and North African groups to the right. The relatively small differences are in the proportions of the genetic components and, again, it is clear that despite the differences, the Italian groups are remarkably similar to each other. Fst data from the same work support this; as is expected from clinal differences, Southern Italians are a bit closer to the Middle/Near East than are Northern Italians, but again, all Italian groups are very close to one another, and Southern Italians are genetically closer to Northern and Western European populations like CEU and French than to the Middle Easterners. 

Given the relatively small differences among Italian groups (looking at the data and not the breathless writing in the aforementioned manuscript), it would seem that if “low-IQ” Southern Italians are substantially “admixed” with Middle Easterners and North Africans, then the “high-IQ” Northern Italians are as well, albeit to a slightly lesser extent. But one does not need to invoke modern admixture to account for the bulk of these intra-European differences. This work [UPDATED NOTE: no longer online] suggests the possibility that Southern Europeans are predominantly of Neolithic European “farmer” origin and that Northern Europeans are a mix of that and earlier Mesolithic peoples, who had some affinities with East Asians.

From that work, the authors make the following conclusions about the overall genetic history of Europe:

1. The arrival of Neolithic farmers probably from the Middle East.

2. Nearly complete replacement of the indigenous Mesolithic southern European populations by Neolithic migrants, and admixture between the Neolithic farmers and the indigenous Europeans in the north.

3. Substantial population movement into Spain occurring around the same time as the archaeologically attested Bell-Beaker phenomenon (HARRISON, 1980).

 4. Subsequent mating between peoples of neighboring regions, resulting in isolation-by-distance (LAO et al., 2008; NOVEMBRE et al., 2008). This tended to smooth out population structurethat existed 4,000 years ago.

Thus: increased “Middle Eastern” Neolithic ancestry in Southern Europe, decreasing in a cline going northwards, and “isolation-by-distance” creating the smoother clines of gene frequencies observed in Europe today, and which are clearly shown in the Italian genetic data.

Now, one could argue that the Eurasian Mesolithic hunter gatherers were under greater selective pressure for intelligence, and, hence, populations with greater Mesolithic origin have higher IQs than the more Neolithic European groups. But there’s no need to invoke a mass, widespread historical admixture with modern Middle/Near Eastern and/or North African populations. Southern Italy no doubt has a bit more such modern admixture than Northern Italy, but the levels are small and cannot be invoked to explain Lynn’s purported IQ differences. Most of the genetic differences within Europe were likely in place by the end of the Neolithic.

With respect to the IQ issue, Lynn’s reliance on achievement tests and self-administered online IQ tests is laughable. gloaded IQ testing has shown that Sicilian children did not have lower IQs than Northern Italian children. Another group mentioned in the same link, using a cognitive assessment test, found IQs of 100.5, 101.2, and 103.1 in Northern, Central and Southern Italy, respectively. That’s not the final word on the subject, and it may well be possible that Northern Italians, with greater Mesolithic origins, do have a bit higher IQ than Southern Italians. But that has to be established via careful IQ testing, not Lynn’s bizarre use of non-g tests and online self-administered test data.  It’s unlikely that when the “dust settles” that Lynn’s conclusion of a 2/3 of a SD difference in IQ between Northern and Southern Italy will hold.  Lynn’s dogmatic and close-minded insistence on his original IQ claims, and the fanciful ancestry tales spun around those claims, does not reflect well on his commitment to serious academic scholarship.

But that’s to be expected from someone who “estimates” Irish IQ by averaging results from one test given to Irish children, with scores in the high 80s, and a different test given to Irish adults, with scores in the high 90s – giving an “average” in the low 90s. The almost comical absurdity of this – which may pass as “scholarly” in the oxymoronic “social sciences” – doesn’t past muster in real science, where averaging can be done only on real replicates.  You cannot average completely disparate data sets!

How would Lynn measure racial differences in running speed I wonder? Average Olympic sprinting times with that of five year olds running potato sack races in Kindergarten? The responsible approach to the Irish IQ data would be to attempt to evaluate why the findings were so different and which are more accurate. Even better – give the same standardized test to both Irish children and adults. But, no. As long as the “estimated” score falls into a preconceived notion of an IQ-GDP/achievement correlation, there’s no need to seek the truth. It’s all a shame, since the study of racial differences in intelligence and behavior is important, and needs to be carefully examined by real scientists, not by biased, addled ideological demagogues, who are “enabled” in their shocking pseudoscience by a cheering section with a vested interest in the “findings” thus generated.   IQ fetishists on the right and IQ deniers on the left are two peas in a pod. Neither deal in real science and scholarship.