Category: Sunstein strategy

A Telling Admission

A small ray of disinfecting light.
Here we see Silver stating his disagreement with Greg Johnson’s “overarching worldview.”  Johnson’s overarching ideology/viewpoint is that of a White racial nationalist, so opposing that worldview is disagreement with the fundamental tenets of WN.
What’s particularly eyebrow-raising about the comment is that Johnson is a particularly moderate WN, far less extreme than, say, William Pierce (or myself for that matter).  In the past, Silver would frequently harshly critique the more extreme elements of WN, but Greg Johnson’s ethnonationalist-oriented, non-genocidal, New Right, anti-“Vantard” form of “Left Coast Nationalism” is far from extreme.
So, here we have someone who opposes even a moderate and intellectual form of racial nationalism, and is a shill for predatory capitalism.  What’s the battle cry then?  Jeb Bush in 2016!
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Moderating Comments

I prefer no comments at all.
Well, moderating is better than the “free for all zoo” that occurs with lack of moderation.  And, I believe KMacD when he says that he does not “censor” comments at his site merely because he disagrees with them.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about other sites.  Herein lies the problem with blog comments.  Comments with no moderation will destroy a blog and drag it into a sewer, and also leave it open to Sunsteinite manipulation (which also occurs on poorly moderated blogs as well). However, moderation leave you open to accusations of deleting comments that effectively refute your position, thus yourself manipulating debate by eliminating certain points of view.
In contrast, I pick the simplest option: no commenting.  Certainly, that incurs costs as well, but it is the most time efficient.
Of course, in the end, moderating and no comments are not “censorship.”  One is free to set up one’s own blog to assert one’s own opinions. A commitment to free speech does not carry with it the obligation to host all types of speech at one’s own site. A commitment to free speech, for example, does not obligate a Negro to have a Stormfronter come to the Negro’s home and spout anti-Negro remarks.  On the other hand, the Stormfronter should have the right to say whatever he wants in public, and on his own property, including on Internet sites.

Antinora vs. Silver

Absolutely false.
Emphasis added:
Posted January 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm  

[Silver]:In general, the most reliable theories of economics lie in the area of microeconomics. Macroeconomics, in contrast, is far less well understood. 

[Antinora]: This is absolutely false. In fact, the discipline’s own assumptions about itself make it so. Macroeconomics has steadily and almost entirely disappeared after Keynes. Macroeconomics is applied microeconomics in the minds of economists. Because microeconomics is wrong macroeconomics is a mystery to them. It’s the reason nobody saw the economic crisis coming except non-orthodox economists. Money and credit do not figure prominently (at all really) in the orthodox understanding of the economy. There is also complete failure to understand that micro doesn’t scale up because aggregation doesn’t ‘work’. These two facts alone mean that economists are wrong on both counts; macro and micro.

Of course it is absolutely false.  Daniel, you need to wise up. What else should you expect from a dedicated White-hating, anti-racist extremist and shill for predatory capitalism such as the Sunsteinite troll Silver?

Funding the Movement: Three Practical Problems

Three of the biggest problems.
In the latest Counter-Currents debate between Johnson and Parrott, re: conferences, Johnson made the reasonable point that money wasted on conferences could be used directly by activists (such as himself) to hire staff and get things done. I would like to comment on the issue of funding the “movement” via supporter contributions. This should not be construed as any sort of attack or criticism of Greg Johnson himself who, insofar as I know, has put contributions to good use. Nor do I expect any sort of “movement reform” – I stand by my call that the (American) racial nationalist “movement” – The Old Movement – needs to be completely destroyed and replaced by something new.  With all of that, I would still like to present what I see as three major problems that many potential contributors would have with funding the current “movement.”  I will assume that the supporter has the fiscal means to make a contribution (not true in many cases) and that there are no major areas of ideological disagreement (but see Point 3).
Point 1: The support will be wasted.  The “movement” has a terrible track record of “accomplishment” using the resources it has already been given.  This does not instill confidence that future contributions will be put to effective use.  The best example of this is Pierce and his National Alliance. Over many years, a significant amount of money (and time and effort) went into supporting the Alliance and its “home office” in the mountains of West Virginia.  And what was the outcome of that investment? When Pierce was alive, nothing substantial was accomplished, certainly nothing commensurate with the level of support given. After he died, the entire enterprise disintegrated over the course of the following decade, with much lost, until the organization was hollowed out and is now the subject of an attempt at “rebuilding.”  Regardless of what happens with this “rebirth,” it is clear that the Alliance was a black hole that absorbed a significant portion of the “movement’s” limited support, and, for the most part, wasted what it was given.  Other examples abound that need not be discussed now.  Indeed, we can turn it around: instead of cataloging “movement” failures, we can ask for a list of definitive success stories – examples of where contributor input was put to good use and accomplished something lasting of value. The list for America: NOTHING.
Point 2: Lack of security that will compromise any potential success.  Related to point 1, the “movement” has a terrible record of internal security. They pose as “dissidents in a totalitarian state” but behave as if this was all a video game. Infiltration by government agents and/or by NGO “anti-racist” groups is routine and relatively unopposed.  The slightest degree of common sense of groups with their lists of “members” and “contributors” does not exist. The “movement” is unable and unwilling to even resist “cognitive infiltration” by obvious trolls and infiltrators in online forums, so there is little confidence of any foresight, discipline, or self-awareness anywhere else. “Loose-lips” on online forums and at (infiltrated) meetings abound. I will not go into specific details about things I have seen, since that would obviously be an example of the “loose-lips” principle I am criticizing. However, I suspect that anyone with experience in the “movement” knows that Point 2 is a big problem.
Now, I don’t expect activists to openly discuss the details of their security measures, which would defeat its own purpose, and would of course itself be prima facie evidence of poor security. But we should be able to see outcome-based evidence of security considerations. We should be able to see the overt practices and outcomes (lack of breaches) that would begin to instill a bit of confidence. We could see a hard line against “Sunsteinism.”  We can see if prudent advice is dispensed.  We can see an absence of the “loose-lips” phenomenon.  We can see an absence of defective characters and suspicious activities.  That would be helpful.
Point 3: EGI blindsiding.  Some activists – with good reason (experience) – are justifiably suspicious as to whether they will get “blindsided” by animus toward their ethnies from individuals/groups that they have heretofore supported.  Consider activists of certain European ethnic origins who supported Pierce and the Alliance, later to see their suspicions confirmed by publication of Pierce’s screed, Who We Are.  It seems obvious that Pierce must have had an ethnoracial animus toward some of his own supporters.  Or, for example, we have certain Amren supporters getting a slap in the face from the “Hippocrates” incident.  There have been plenty of cases of individuals/groups/journals/sites that have made the pretense of being “pan-European” or “pan-Aryan” or “White inclusive” to maximize support, and then the mask falls off and one sees that there was always a more exclusivist (and dishonestly hidden) subracial agenda all along.  I really don’t see any American grouping that I would consider pan-European by my standards. 
Now, it is one thing to ask people to be relatively ethnically (and personally) disinterested for the common (racial) good.  It’s something else entirely to ask them to fund and support attacks against their own narrower genetic interests.  It’s hypocritical as well, since the “movement” would, I am sure, vigorously oppose the idea that Whites should be racially disinterested and support anti-White activities for the “greater common good of humanity.” Any honest racial nationalist movement (no scare quotes) would support the genetic interests of its members through the entire spectrum: personal, familial, ethnic, subracial, racial.  You cannot ask people to completely sacrifice one level for another while at the same time criticize the System for asking Whites to sacrifice their racial interests for humanity.
Any precinct of the “movement” asking for support had better be honest, transparent, and consistent about who it is they represent.  I haven’t seen that in America.

Racial Nationalists Beware – Silver/Verlis

Racial nationalists need to be aware that the anti-racist, anti-nationalist, and anti-preservationist troll/infiltrator “Silver” is attempting to spread his Sunstein-style “cognitive infiltration” to various nationalist blogs, sometimes using (pathetically transparent) alternative pseudonyms – an example being “Verlis” at Counter Currents.

As a public service, information on “Silver” dating back to 2009-2010, and which is still very relevant today is stored at the mothballed “Western Biopolitics” site and can be reactivated when necessary.  But, don’t worry – an excellent summary of Silver’s agenda is here, linked to from the EGI Notes blog, and that is permanent.

Update:


Recent quote from Silver on the blog Majority Rights, from this comments thread:


Too true.  What a damnable fool GW turned out to be.  Even as early as 2005 and 2006 some were wondering whether he didn’t have a screw loose, but a great deal of quality material was being turned out in those days so the danger didn’t seem so obvious.  The arrival of DanielS on the front page unquestionably signaled the end; I hope there’s a special circle of hell reserved for that lunatic.


That’s interesting on many levels.  First, it’s pure chutzpah.  More than any other commentator at Majority Rights, the trolling fraud Silver is himself heavily responsible for the decline of that blog. I don’t know much about this “Daniel S” one way or another, but if there is any lunatic with a special circle of hell reserved for them, it’s Silver.  Indeed, it was Silver’s arrival as a commentator at Majority Rights, and Guessedworker’s damnably foolish decision to tolerate Silver’s Sunstein tactics, that really signaled the end. Which leads us to the second point: ingratitude.  Guessedworker wrecked his blog in order to welcome and accommodate Silver; Guessedworker chose Silver over other commentators and actual regular bloggers; Guessedworker, for some bizarre reason that escapes the rest of us, made Silver into that blog’s cherished pet.  So, once the inevitable happens and the blog descends into terminal decline, Silver turns on his benefactor.


The only thing in the comment I agree with is that Majority Rights is indeed in terminal decline and that it had reached its peak in the 2005-2006 period (or perhaps, stretching it, 2005-2007). But, as stated, Silver, and Guessedworker’s tolerance of Silver, greatly contributed to the decline.  And, now, Guessedworker is, in Silver’s words, a “damnable old fool” for letting Silver destroy Majority Rights.  And when another commentator calls out Silver for his dishonorable behavior, Silver claims that he doesn’t “owe” Guessedworker anything, since he (Silver) merely contributed to the blog’s discussion.


An example of Silver’s contributions:

Who cares what that shiteating asshole thinks? Are you that goddam thick, Dave Johns, that you can’t understand what a pure, unadulterated asshole that vermin is? Are you that damn thick that you can’t realize the only reason he can’t fairly characterize my position is that I mock his absurd attempts to whiten himself with his“tests”? That the whole reason he’s such a grouch is that he feels vulnerable about his whiteness and feels compelled to savage and ridicule anyone and everyone even a smidgeon less white than what his exacting standards require, even though doing so is not remotely required for advancing a pro-white agenda (*), and is, in fact, counterproductive? Are you that damn thick? Sadly, I think the answer is yes, you are that damn thick. Try this, Davey boy: think for yourself. If you can pinpoint anything I say (now, not one year ago—which is the only thing shiteater has to go on) which you think compromises white interests, let’s have you bring it up. Otherwise, pay attention to what I actually say; not to what self-interested shiteaters claim I say.

I don’t discuss that here because nutzi dumbfucks like Braun and Rienzi are the greater problem. I don’t care what label these assholes give themselves. They are the purest of human shit imaginable, to me. 


Which is why folks strongly advised Guessedworker, repeatedly, to rid his blog of this anti-racist troll.  And when he didn’t, folks left – not because of Silver himself (who is an obvious fraud for anyone with a triple-digit IQ), but because of frustration at Guessedworker’s foolishness for tolerating Silver (and the rest of the peanut gallery).

So, to summarize: Silver comes to Majority Rights with the intention to disrupt (admitted in his first comment posted there).  He ingratiates himself with the naive Guessedworker, in order to be given free reign to cause maximal damage.  And then, once the blog is a wreck – and, contra Daniel S, it is a wreck – here along comes Silver, to give his one-time benefactor Guessedworker the twist of the knife.  No worries – Silver (or Verlis) has already been attempting to metastasize on other blogs, where the same scenario will be repeated.

Of course, there were times Guessedworker was sorely tempted to ban Silver – see the following quote.  And I believe that at one time he may have actually tried it, or at least more seriously threatened it. But, alas, despite provocations that even the overly tolerant Guessedworker couldn’t fully accept, the ban was never enforced and Silver was allowed to come back, again and again, like a recurrent tumor:

silver, 

You do yourself nor your arguments no honour by that kind of display of bile. I really wonder, sometimes, what is going on in Nordicist’s heads. Very disappointing. 

An apology to Fred wouldn’t go amiss, if you are at all troubled by your own excess. And one to the readership too, for making them plough through such dross. 

I won’t ban you unless you abuse our hospitality like that again. But you can be sure what will happen if you do. 

Posted by Guessedworker on Monday, July 7, 2008 at 08:37 PM #