Category: Irish IQ

The Unbearable Stupidity of HBD (and Greg Cochran)

Laughable.

When that old IQ-GDP correlation doesn’t quite go the way the HBDers want, they sure know how to wave their hands around and excuse subpar perfomances by their Asian darlings (you know, the folks who cheat on achievement tests and only report test scores from well-educated urban populations).

The arterosclerotic Greg Cochran says:

…bad choices (Communism), having the world kick you in the crotch (Mongols), or toxic intellectual fads can all make smart peoples unproductive.

Yes sir, the Chinamen (but not the Slavs, no siree) are held back by the legacies of Communism. And those poor pacifistic Mongols have been kicked in the crotch by the world, don’t you know.
I mean, even for a misanthropic retard like Cochran, that’s beyond delusional. Hey Greg, I don’t know, but maybe the Mongols have been more the kickers than the kickees when it comes to global crotches, eh?
If memory serves, I do believe the Mongols established a vast empire through brutal warfare, terror, and the slaughter of civilian populations, followed by the exaction of tribute from the conquered peoples. And all that wealth and power resulted in what, pray tell? The Mongols are unique in human history in having established a long-standing empire lacking in any foundational cultural idea or impetus whatsoever. Ethnic Mongol cultural achievements: zero.
Hey, fundamentally dishonest HBDers – if you want to pick peoples of whom it can be reasonably said that they’ve been “kicked in the crotch by the world” how about the Balkans? Russians (Mongol conquest, Communism and genocidal Jewish commissars, Hitler’s invasion, Jewish looting of the post-Soviet economy)? The Irish? Sicilians? How about the Basques?
Oh wait…they’re not Asian, so historical excuses don’t count, eh?


Against Lynn: First RLP Blog Post Reproduced Here

Answering Amren lies.

I see that Lynn has been defending his Italian IQ nonsense against Unz, which found its way on Amren in August 2012 – Amren of course always being willing to attack gentile white ethnics while being hysterically reticent to feature anything even remotely negative about Jews. Lynn’s understanding of population genetics and racial history is very poor, and features outrageous cherry-picking and misinterpretation of single locus data, along with a reliance on studies from the mid-1990s, along with the false claim that published findings agree with his Kempian cartoon-like imaginative “history.” Reality can be better observed with this more recent autosomal work, which is by Northern Italian authors who themselves use Lynnian rhetoric, but show data not compatible with Lynn’s misinterpretations and distortions. See here.

It is clear that Northern Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Northern and Western Europeans. Central Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Northern Italians and Southern Italians have less of the Northern European-like component and more of the Near Eastern-like component than do Central Italians. This in fact shows a very clear cline of gene frequencies, similar to what has already been shown by Novembre and colleagues (as well as others since then) – genes vary with geography. Looking at the data, it is clear that the three Italian groups are much more similar to each other than any are to the Northern and Western Europeans to the left or the Middle/Near Eastern and North African groups to the right. The relatively small differences are in the proportions of the genetic components and, again, it is clear that despite the differences, the Italian groups are remarkably similar to each other. Fst data from the same work support this; as is expected from clinal differences, Southern Italians are a bit closer to the Middle/Near East than are Northern Italians, but again, all Italian groups are very close to one another, and Southern Italians are genetically closer to Northern and Western European populations like CEU and French than to the Middle Easterners. 

Given the relatively small differences among Italian groups (looking at the data and not the breathless writing in the aforementioned manuscript), it would seem that if “low-IQ” Southern Italians are substantially “admixed” with Middle Easterners and North Africans, then the “high-IQ” Northern Italians are as well, albeit to a slightly lesser extent. But one does not need to invoke modern admixture to account for the bulk of these intra-European differences. This work [UPDATED NOTE: no longer online] suggests the possibility that Southern Europeans are predominantly of Neolithic European “farmer” origin and that Northern Europeans are a mix of that and earlier Mesolithic peoples, who had some affinities with East Asians.

From that work, the authors make the following conclusions about the overall genetic history of Europe:

1. The arrival of Neolithic farmers probably from the Middle East.

2. Nearly complete replacement of the indigenous Mesolithic southern European populations by Neolithic migrants, and admixture between the Neolithic farmers and the indigenous Europeans in the north.

3. Substantial population movement into Spain occurring around the same time as the archaeologically attested Bell-Beaker phenomenon (HARRISON, 1980).

 4. Subsequent mating between peoples of neighboring regions, resulting in isolation-by-distance (LAO et al., 2008; NOVEMBRE et al., 2008). This tended to smooth out population structurethat existed 4,000 years ago.


Thus: increased “Middle Eastern” Neolithic ancestry in Southern Europe, decreasing in a cline going northwards, and “isolation-by-distance” creating the smoother clines of gene frequencies observed in Europe today, and which are clearly shown in the Italian genetic data.

Now, one could argue that the Eurasian Mesolithic hunter gatherers were under greater selective pressure for intelligence, and, hence, populations with greater Mesolithic origin have higher IQs than the more Neolithic European groups. But there’s no need to invoke a mass, widespread historical admixture with modern Middle/Near Eastern and/or North African populations. Southern Italy no doubt has a bit more such modern admixture than Northern Italy, but the levels are small and cannot be invoked to explain Lynn’s purported IQ differences. Most of the genetic differences within Europe were likely in place by the end of the Neolithic.

With respect to the IQ issue, Lynn’s reliance on achievement tests and self-administered online IQ tests is laughable. gloaded IQ testing has shown that Sicilian children did not have lower IQs than Northern Italian children. Another group mentioned in the same link, using a cognitive assessment test, found IQs of 100.5, 101.2, and 103.1 in Northern, Central and Southern Italy, respectively. That’s not the final word on the subject, and it may well be possible that Northern Italians, with greater Mesolithic origins, do have a bit higher IQ than Southern Italians. But that has to be established via careful IQ testing, not Lynn’s bizarre use of non-g tests and online self-administered test data.  It’s unlikely that when the “dust settles” that Lynn’s conclusion of a 2/3 of a SD difference in IQ between Northern and Southern Italy will hold.  Lynn’s dogmatic and close-minded insistence on his original IQ claims, and the fanciful ancestry tales spun around those claims, does not reflect well on his commitment to serious academic scholarship.


But that’s to be expected from someone who “estimates” Irish IQ by averaging results from one test given to Irish children, with scores in the high 80s, and a different test given to Irish adults, with scores in the high 90s – giving an “average” in the low 90s. The almost comical absurdity of this – which may pass as “scholarly” in the oxymoronic “social sciences” – doesn’t past muster in real science, where averaging can be done only on real replicates.  You cannot average completely disparate data sets!

How would Lynn measure racial differences in running speed I wonder? Average Olympic sprinting times with that of five year olds running potato sack races in Kindergarten? The responsible approach to the Irish IQ data would be to attempt to evaluate why the findings were so different and which are more accurate. Even better – give the same standardized test to both Irish children and adults. But, no. As long as the “estimated” score falls into a preconceived notion of an IQ-GDP/achievement correlation, there’s no need to seek the truth. It’s all a shame, since the study of racial differences in intelligence and behavior is important, and needs to be carefully examined by real scientists, not by biased, addled ideological demagogues, who are “enabled” in their shocking pseudoscience by a cheering section with a vested interest in the “findings” thus generated.   IQ fetishists on the right and IQ deniers on the left are two peas in a pod. Neither deal in real science and scholarship.

HBD, Pseudoscience, and Sports

More HBD stupidity.

It is unfortunate that a commentator like Devlin, who usually produces intelligent pieces, takes Lynnian HBD flim flam seriously.


Besides Lynn’s usual stupidities* – using achievement tests to “estimate” IQ while ignoring real IQ data for the relevant regions (e.g., Italy**), “estimating” IQ by averaging (!) the results of two different IQ tests given to completely different age groups of a given population (e.g., Ireland), and making gross errors in assigning IQ scores (e.g., from Wikipedia: The datum that Lynn and Vanhanen used for the lowest IQ estimate, Equatorial Guinea, was taken from a group of children in a home for the developmentally disabled in Spain) – HBD seems to breed the sort of moronic “just so” stories that cross over into the realm of pseudoscience. 
What to make of this nonsense:

Certain sports even seem to favor clinal subgroups or crossings over any of the four fundamental racial groups. Cape Coloreds and South Asians are well-represented among successful cricket players, and this may be due to their middling physiques, in which neither ectomorphy not endomorphy nor mesomorphy predominate.

Well, let’s see how someone who is not a HBD cultist would evaluate this.


First, cricket is a sport of interest only to British Empire/Commonwealth peoples. If groups like Cape Coloreds and South Asians are “well-represented among successful cricket players” this is more likely due to default (not many other ethnies are interested in this sport) and due to the large population base of South Asians (of those teeming hordes, someone must be good at cricket), rather than to assume that “middling physiques” make groups better at a competitive sport.
Second, many of the skills required for cricket would be reasonably expected to be similarly required for American baseball, a sport mostly dominated (the few East Asian, Jewish, and mestizo outliers notwithstanding) by European-derived Whites, Negroes, and mulatto Hispanics (per capita vast over-representation by Cubans and Dominicans). 
Third, building on point two, we find that West Indians, who are racially West African, are also “well-represented among successful cricket players” despite deriving from a population base ~ two orders of magnitude smaller than that of South Asians.

From the mid-1970s to the early 1990s, the West Indies team was one of the strongest in the world in both Test and One Day International cricket. A number of cricketers considered among the best in the world have hailed from the West Indies: Sir Garfield Sobers, Lance Gibbs, Gordon Greenidge, George Headley, Brian Lara, Clive Lloyd, Malcolm Marshall, Sir Andy Roberts, Alvin Kallicharran, Rohan Kanhai, Sir Frank Worrell, Sir Clyde Walcott, Sir Everton Weekes, Sir Curtly Ambrose, Michael Holding, Courtney Walsh, Joel Garner and Sir Viv Richards have all been inducted into the ICC Hall of Fame.

Therefore, there is no reason to make hand-waving speculations about how certain sports like cricket are well-suited for “middling physiques.” Indeed, looking at the cricket-baseball comparison, the use of performance enhancing drugs in baseball suggests that non-middling physiques are better suited for both Anglosphere “bat and ball” sports.


*From Wikipedia: Lynn says he want to be remembered as “some loved him, some hated him, but everyone accepted that he kept the faith and told the truth as he saw it”
No, Richard, I think you are a complete fraud…unless “the truth as he saw it” means you are a doddering senile idiot. Either you are cognitively addled or mendacious.
**From Wikipedia: Other large surveys in Italy show much smaller differences in educational achievement.[63][64] Moreover, several subsequent studies based on the direct assessment of IQs failed to report significant differences among Italian regions. On the contrary, the results from the Southern half of the country are sometimes higher than those from the North Central regions.[65]