Der Movement.
Laugh at this. OK, once again I ask Johnson the question that the coward will continue to ignore – what qualifications did Spencer have to be made the head of NPI? Johnson can’t address that because the answer leads to the same “movement” ethnic affirmative action program that elevated a meritless empty vessel like Johnson himself to be another “movement” “leader.” Fact is, an essay like LeBlanc’s could just as easily be made about Johnson or any of the other Quota Queens. They have nothing to offer other than their WASPness. Absolutely nothing.
Fisking the article:
Spencer, for his part, who was once the face of the most exciting and talked-about news story in the world, now finds himself a broke and broken man with nothing to show for his adventures but a trail of burned bridges and broken lives that he left in his wake. He has long since surpassed in relevance by a 23-year-old who lives with his parents, and he is now even shunned by White Nationalists.
This is the fellow who was named the head of NPI and who hobnobbed with high-level “movement” “leaders” – at least before they got scared off by Hailgate. I also seem to recall a Spencer-Johnson podcast episode before their feud erupted full scale.
If there were any lingering doubts as to whether or not Richard Spencer is the poster child for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the 8-minute interview should seal the deal. Right out of the gate, Spencer tries to distance himself from the movement and dodge any blame for how things turned out.
I’m no fan of Spencer, but please stop this cheap psychobabble pathologization. Right…and I’m a “paranoid piece of crap” suffering from “insanity,” right? Everyone is mentally maladjusted except Gaslighting Greg and his merry little band of sycophants.
Richard: I was trying to unite everything to where it would be simply me, and it would have been better if they had fucking bent the knee and shut the fuck up.
Spencer isn’t the only “movement” “leader” who expects people to “had fucking bent the knee and shut the fuck up.” What about folks who “ban” anyone who dares disagree with them?
There’s a lot to unpack here. Basically, Spencer thinks that the Alt Right should have been a Richard Spencer cult of personality.
Is it supposed to be a Greg Johnson “cult of personality” instead? Of course, a “cult of personality” requires a personality, so there may be a problem with that.
But at the same time, Spencer acknowledges that he did not create the movement. This raises the obvious question: “If you didn’t create the movement, then what is your claim to leadership?”
Anglo-Nord affirmative action. Same with Johnson.
He didn’t create the movement. He’s never written a book. He ran a blog, but it was one of many blogs. It wasn’t the biggest blog, nor was it light-years better than other blogs. His fan base was miniscule compared to that of TRS or The Daily Stormer. So why him as leader?
Why was he made the head of NPI? I’ve been giving the answer to all of these questions, right here, for years.
The simple answer is that better candidates didn’t want the job.
Bullshit.
Spencer says as much in the interview.
So, you believe that?
Richard: The whole 2016-2017 experience was quite something, wasn’t it? I was making headlines every week. Trump was also reaching people online, and the Alt Right became a kind of advertising wing. And the Alt Right’s anonymous, and I am not anonymous, and if I dare say so, I think I am interesting.
Yes, he’s very interesting. Like a carbuncle.
Well, that part is true, but only in the same sense as someone like Ted Bundy is interesting. However, he is on to something. The main reason Spencer was able to land the job of Alt Right spokesman is because most of the movement was anonymous and no one else wanted the job. If the TRS doxes had happened a year earlier, Mike Enoch probably would have wound up with that job.
Enoch – the guy many people call a “Jew?” The guy who, regardless of his exact ancestry, is not an Anglo-Nord? Fantasy.
That’s not really a strong claim to leadership. That’s like becoming the heavyweight boxing champion because the last champ retired. It’s not really proof that you’re the best.
Sounds a lot like Johnson’s situation.
To a narcissistic sociopath, what you feel about him is not as important as the fact that you feel something and feel it intensely. To a narcissistic sociopath, being admired is of course the ideal, but failing that, being hated is the next-best thing. More than anything, a narcissist wants to be the center of your world. Thus, to Spencer, “love to hate” and “hate to love” are basically the same things. In both cases, he is the center of your world. They both fulfill the need for narcissistic supply.
Stop the psychobabble crap.
Richard: There was “the punch of Richard Spencer” in 2017.
Yes, he referred to the event in the third person. I’m sorry, but I find that funny. He doesn’t say, “There was the time when I was punched in 2017.” He calls it “The Punch of Richard Spencer” as if it was a major historical event on par with “The Sinking of the Lusitania.” I wonder if Abraham Lincoln is up there in heaven talking about his death and saying, “I wanted to enjoy a play, but then The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln happened.”
So what? Making much ado about nothing. What a nitpicking idiot.
Similarly, Spencer wanted to be respected as a serious intellectual like Jared Taylor, but he also wanted the street cred of Mike Enoch.
That’s like saying someone wants to have the muscularity of Pee Wee Herman and the humble sensitivity of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Pumping Iron.
One cannot help but consider it an insult that Spencer would refer to associating with the greater Alt Right as “slumming,” but to be fair, compared to the days when he was doing conferences with Peter Brimelow, Paul Gottfried, and Jared Taylor and working alongside Steve Sailor, John Derbyshire, and other Dissident Right legends…
OK, so if Spencer is so bad and is a “narcissistic sociopath” then what does that say about the judgment of all those “Dissident Right legends” for associating with him?
…Spencer was indeed kind of slumming throughout most of 2016 and 2017. That’s not a diss on the Alt Right so much as it is a reflection of the high-class characters Spencer used to run with.
I think you have it backwards, but never mind.
Can you imagine Jared Taylor “bending the knee” to Richard Spencer?
No, he’s too busy “bending the knee” to Jews and Asians.
Let me ask the readers of Counter-Currents a question: Can you think of a Richard Spencer rip-off?
Can you think of a Greg Johnson rip-off?
I remember a time when every podcaster was trying to be Mike Enoch, and I’ve seen a million bloggers trying to write like Andrew Anglin, but I have never seen a content creator who made me say “Man, this guy is totally ripping off Richard Spencer. He’s jacking all of his talking points. He’s shilling for the EU and advocating for ethical child pornography.
But when “Dissident Right legends” implicitly advocate for the possession of child porn to be legal, that’s OK, right? Disgusting hypocrites.
That Spencer had any amount of influence at all was due to the fact that he had the goodwill of all the bigwigs who did have substantial fan bases, and who were willing to vouch for him.
OK, here we have the $64,000 question – why did he have their “goodwill” if he’s such an obvious fuckup? Only I am willing to provide the answer.
This is one of the reasons Spencer has crashed so hard. He put all his eggs in the networking basket and no eggs into the “cultivating a fan base” basket. This is probably because cultivating a loyal base of support is hard and tedious work that often involves being nice to people who are not important, but who will support you forever and follow you to the gates of Hell in exchange for a morsel of respect. But Spencer was never the type to soil his hands by engaging with unimportant people.
Then we have Johnson who “soiled his hands” (or whatever) with Hermansson, Lewis, and Pilleater. How did that all work out?
Instead, Spencer networked and won over the key bigwigs in the movement who did have large followings.
Great judgment on their part.
But when those aforementioned bigwigs withdrew their support…
Because Hailgate offended Jews and imperiled fundraising.
Richard: At the end of the day, Unite the Right meant putting me next to, like, Azzmador, who is just disgusting and gross.
Again, this is because Spencer did not actually have a fan base of his own. Thus, he needed people like Azzmador of The Daily Stormer — people who actually did have significant fanbases — if he wanted to have his picture taken speaking in front of a large crowd, which was all he ever wanted.
I’ll admit that I initially wasn’t too hot on Azzmador. He was a little too edgelordy for my taste, but I must say, he has really grown on me. Post-Charlottesville, he has improved his style a lot. Rather than being an edgelord, he now gives off a dad-like vibe and tries to be more of a positive role model and mentor for the youth. It’s quite a remarkable turnaround.
Despite currently being a fugitive from the law, Azzmador still streams regularly. You can find him on Odysee. Do listen and support.
Does Sallis every support any of the freakshow brigade? No, because I actually have some degree of judgment.
Back to Spencer:
Richard: I don’t like ugly, stupid freaks. It always just should have been about Richard Spencer.
Sort of self-contradictory there, no? OK, he’s not ugly, but the rest of it…
So here, Richard “Hailgate” Spencer is claiming that it was the movement that made him look bad.
The sense of entitlement is really breathtaking here. After all this time, I should not be surprised by Spencer’s narcissism, and yet I am. I never dreamed that he would ever take his mask off to this extent.
Did someone take the “mask” – or anything else – off in a Budapest men’s room?
Spencer isn’t wrong, but he makes it sound like he did not actively participate in it himself. If you didn’t know who Richard Spencer was, and then saw this interview, you would think like that Nazi humor was something Spencer himself was above and that he dirtied his hands by hanging around people who made Nazi jokes. In reality, Spencer did quite a bit of Nazi LARPing himself. Aside from Hailgate, Spencer reportedly made people give him Roman salutes when he entered the room.
I – and not Der Movement – was criticizing the Beavis-and-Butthead Spencerian Alt Right at its peak.
I try to imagine a world where Richard Spencer never existed, and it’s frankly infuriating to think of what might have been. No Spencer, no Hailgate. “Alt Right” becomes a catch-all term for anyone who is not liberal or neocon. No Alt Right/Alt Lite schism.
As if being welded to the Alt Lite is a good thing.
There are other people who could have done as good a job or better debating Sargon…
At least Spencer was willing to debate semi-competent opponents, which is more than I can say about a certain other “movement” “leader.”
All in all, I therefore have no choice but to declare that Richard Spencer was a gigantic net loss for the movement for white survival.
As is Der Movement as a whole.
I wrote “similar,” because when Matt Heimbach took his mask off, he was already banished from the movement, anyway. It was an epilogue to a story that had already ended. But with Spencer, I had been worried that we might have to deal with carrying that guy on our backs forever.
I am worried the same way about Johnson.
I wish I had the energy for Schadenfreude. I would love nothing more right now than to spike the football and yell at the wignats, “I was right all along!”
It was I, not you, who was warning about the Alt Right as far back as late 2016/early 2017. Mendacity by omission.
See this. Do you need any more evidence that I am correct about Rosie and the Kids White nationalism, and that Nikandros is also correct? Now non-White HapaPerspective is being given a forum on Counter-Currents. Remember that both Sallis and Nikandros are “banned” from Counter-Currents.
Rosie and the Kids!
Speaking of which. Asian teens are more anti-White than are Hispanics. How’s that “Arctic Alliance” working out, Derb?
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