Odds and Ends, 6/23/21

In der news.

Yockey in the 21st century.

This here is basically a rip-off regurgitation of my previous work at Majority Rights discussing NEC envy and hatred of Whites as well as my more recent work on racial envy at EGI Notes.

Speaking of Majority Rights.There really isn’t anything for me to answer, as GW’s post is typical MR-style empty philosophical rambling, in this case aimed to disguise a personal opinion about the character of Americans – more specifically, White Americans. But, we can agree, possibly, on one thing – there likely are, generally speaking, differences of character and of broad outlook between Europeans and European-Americans. Being a practical minded example of the latter, I’ll give an example. Imagine being given a sample of GW’s writing on some topic, completely unidentified as regards authorship, and a similarly unidentified piece on the same topic by, say, William Pierce. Let us further assume that the content of each piece contains no direct clue (even spelling of certain words that differ between the UK and America) as to the identity, citizenship, or place of residence of each author.  You only know that one piece is written by a European, the other by a European-American. Would it be so difficult to properly identify each? I think not. And it is obvious why.

Now, the Europeans will defend their style and outlook by suggesting that those (“Jeffersonian”) Americans are superficially pragmatic, overly simplistic in their convictions, lacking a proper philosophical grounding, self-unaware; someone like Yockey would suggest that only someone from the “Mother Soil of a Culture” (i.e., Europe) has the deeper outlook, and someone from a “Culture Colony” (i.e., America) lacks that insight and depth. On the other hand, the American perspective would be to shake their head sadly at the pretentious empty windbaggery of enervated Europeans and their navel-gazing endless philosophizing, people agonizing over the deeper meaning of Heidegger’s “Being” while their nations are over-run by Colored hordes, people who believe that decades of nitpicking debate over esoteric subjects is required before any practical political steps to rectify the situation can be even merely discussed, much less actually organized. 

I’ll leave it up to the reader as to which approach they prefer (keeping in mind that I myself have been castigated by those more “action-oriented” for my own “theorizing” about the work of Salter and Yockey). Whether you think the term “Jeffersonian” is needlessly pejorative for a description of the more American outlook, I’ll also leave up to the reader. Amusingly, if you compare GW’s comments to me to my own reply here, you’ll see the same European vs. European-American distinction recapitulated. 

As to the points made by GW and others in the comments – I’ll also leave it up to the reader to decide whether having White America fragmented by ethnicity/subrace is a “beautiful” and “ideal” vision or not. I suppose I should be gratified that GW at least recognizes that my outlook is more practical than his own, with respect to America at least.

If GW wants to waste his time agonizing over Heidegger instead of doing useful political work, that’s his business. However, when people like him, who know little about America, misrepresent the nature of our country, then it becomesour business. 

See this. Why should anyone except for HBDers be surprised?  The high, high-IQ Chinese cause the pandemic with their incompetence and malice, and now their vaccine is proving to be relatively ineffective.  But, hey, let’s remember the grand words of Jared Taylor here:

I think Asians are objectively superior to Whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.

Amren, meet Ms. Wei Fuk Yu.  No, her name is not “Ben Dover.”

See this.  Hey! I thought that MacDonald said that Bezos will become a rightist because he is “of Nordic descent?” And didn’t Roissy say that Bezos will “make a hard right turn” politically because he works out and is “jacked?”

Odds and Ends, 6/20/21

In der news.

Refuting Nordicist liar (a redundancy) “Desmond Jones.” Look at Iberia, Italy, Bulgaria, Romania – and France of course is in between North and South. The idea that only Northern Europe is demographically threatened is an outright lie.

See this. Who were the “race scum” of the East that the heroic Germans were going to destroy and replace? Russians? Ukrainians?

Then we have guys like GW telling us how difficult WN is, for example in America. How does he know? IT HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED. All we get is warmed over Nutzi Nordicism and Germanocentric Hitlerism and/or WASP animus to “White ethnics.”

See this. Note the bit about homosexuality. Is that perhaps a clue to Powell’s popularity among the “handbags at dawn” Alt Right?

Interesting discussion. Interesting that even at a podcast hosted by the pro-free speech Academic Freedom Alliance, SJW speech restrictionist perspectives filter in. The debate, it seems, is to what degree should academia be SJW – mild hysteria, or full blue-haired fatty hysteria?

Disgusting self-interested gaslighting.

…since I intend to be around for many years to come.

Bad news.

“Movement” “leaders” like Johnson need to peddle false optimism, because if his followers get too discouraged, then the “D’Nations” will dry up. Further, an honest appraisal of the sad state of today’s “movement” would lead to calls for accountability for the failed Quota Queens and their inept “leadership,” and we can’t have that! No sir! So, he’ll take a few (alleged) comments from readers, which do not get to the real problems and manifest failures of the “movement” (that I cover at EGI Notes on a regular basis), and then knocks down these strawmen. Another transparently mendacious performance from Gaslighting Greg.

The fact is that whatever good that has been happening – and it’s not much – has been in despite of, not because of, the retarded “movement” and its inept affirmative action “leaders.” The chaos and balkanization from Trump and the growth of right-wing populism in some precincts of the “normie” Right has been somewhat helpful. I suppose that some Whites are being modestly “radicalized” to the Right as a reaction to BLM, CRT, “wokeness,” etc. But those are political and social currents for the most part not directly connected to the “movement.” If Der Movement had done the right thing during the Trump years, such as quietly building in depth behind the scenes, it would be better positioned to take advantage of all that is going on today. But, no. The Beavis-and-Butthead Alt Right stupidly “acted out,” and the remaining “leaders” and their sycophants are useless freakshows and grifters. The reality is that, considering so-called “White well-being,” the “normie” pushback against “wokeness” – including that from traditional liberals and former “democratic socialists” – has been more useful, by far, than “movement” antics.

Der Movement ejaculates (although the mention of the Italian may induce flaccidity).

Better than Viagra.

Remember my theory of autism – that bizarre alien phenotypes, particularly those of NECs/South Asians, were shocking the amygdalas of vulnerable White children, thus precipitating the disorder?  Can you doubt it?  The face that launched a thousand autisms.

True story. I once had a well-known activist, who shall go nameless here, someone who posed as a pan-Europeanist, tell me that the ancient Romans were Nordic, and that the “proof” of this was that Augustus Caesar “looked like British actor James Mason,” and that “Julius Caesar was going bald, and only Northern European men lose their hair.”  I kid you not.

I’m not going to reveal the name of that “well-known activist,” but I can tell you that it was not Pierce.

Fetishists weep. Liddell has a nervous breakdown.

Also see this.

I believe that the reality is somewhere in between the mainstream narrative and the links above. On the one hand, where there’s smoke there’s fire; the reputation of Italian military ineptness has some basis in fact. On the other hand, that reputation has been over-inflated and taken out of context. Consider WWII. Allied with Germany and very poorly equipped, the Italian military lasted in the field for ~ three years before surrender.  In contrast, allied with the British Empire and much better equipped, the French military lasted in the field for ~ six weeks before surrender. And just because the French were allowed, for political reasons, to piggyback on D-Day, and ended up on the winning side, does not excuse the complete catastrophe of 1940. The French have a certain military reputation over the last 150 years that cannot be ignored.  Not everyone is as militarily efficient as, say, Germany used to be. Is that criticism of the French also over-inflated and taken out of context?  Perhaps.  But what goes around comes around. Every ethny should be held to the same standards.

Immigration marches on.

Riposte to GW

A riposte.

 GW: 

Thorn, it seems to me that the problems confronting American WN are at least threefold, and they are fundamental.  In brief:

First, America is, and always has been, a Jeffersonian liberal project.  

More superficial “analysis” of America by Europeans. Jeffersonian ideals were only one thread in the American historical story. Men such as Washington, Hamilton, Franklin, and Burr (yes, I am non-ironically putting Hamilton and Burr in the same grouping; further, Burr’s earlier tropism toward decentralization doesn’t make him a Jeffersonian – the man tried to establish a personal empire, for godssakes) had a more “European” and more “traditional” and national view of America and its future. But it is much easier for the European right to throw around terms like “Jeffersonian liberal project” and “enlightenment ideas” and disregard undercurrents of American nationalism.

WNs simply do not understand that the liberal model of Man which they effortlessly exemplify is what they have to set aside.  

WNs exemplify – effortlessly exemplify! – a “liberal model of Man?” Examples please.

It is very similar with religious Americans who simply cannot grasp – forgive me for saying this again – that the Christian model of the soul seeking salvation lives inside the Jewish mind, and they have to get out.  They have to turn to their inherent truth … to the authenticity of the natural identity.  

I agree about Christianity, but “the authenticity of the natural identity” seems to me to be just more empty philosophizing.

But they don’t even want to, and without the most remarkable leadership it may not even be possible anyway.

Talking about (American) WN “leadership” without mentioning the affirmative action policy is like talking about urban crime without mentioning race. Of course, I can understand where the Anglocentric GW doesn’t want to ask questions about his American co-ethnics.

Second, WN has to operate race-wide.  It’s proving hard enough to bring a single European people to political awareness in our time, but to do that across the whole of Europe, across the whole genetic distance of Europe’s peoples distributed across such a huge country, is an unimaginably difficult undertaking.

Nonsense. I talk more about this below, but you cannot label something as “an unimaginably difficult undertaking” if it has never been tried.  More to the point, in America at least, there is no real alternative. I understand that to the European Right it is always 1910 or 1920 in America, with fully disjunctive, unmixed, competing, mutually hostile, Euro-American ethnic groups, many of which are unassimilated. However, it is actually 2021, and White America is mostly composed of people of mixed European ethnic descent, and those who are unmixed are in many cases ethnically “outmarried” with mixed-ethnic children. Apart from the odd ethnic activist with a chip on their shoulder, the only Whites in America who take intra-European divisions seriously are the Nutzi freak fetishists of the “movement.” To everyone else, the idea is pitifully outdated at best, and freakishly weird at worst.

We can debate about what approach is best for Europe, but anyone who thinks that the “single European people” model applies to 2021 America is profoundly delusional. I of course promote the pan-European approach for Europe as well, which I have discussed at many forums (including and especially here at this blog), but as GW is specifically talking about American WN here, I’ll concentrate on the American situation, which, as I’ve stated many times, European activists know little to nothing about.

Third, WN is dominated by German-Americans, a significantly numerical and influential body of whom are principally concerned not to free whites from their current fate but to rescue the reputation of the Third Reich.  No progress can be made until that element is disavowed and marginalised.

I (somewhat) agree with GW here, but he doesn’t realize how this weakens his second argument. Again, one cannot say that a genuine pan-European approach (in America, at least) has failed, or is “an unimaginably difficult undertaking,” because it has never been tried.  If American WN is dominated by “German-Americans” and by others (e.g., Pierce) who are, or were, Germanocentric Nutzis, if American WN has been dominated by Germanocentric Nordicism, Hitler worship, and related memes, then how is this a “race-wide” operation?  The “movement” has always been out-of-touch with ordinary White Americans, and has never sincerely and genuinely attempted an authentic “White racial” approach.

Name me one – just one! – American ‘White racialist” (sic) leader who was, or is, genuinely pan-European. Pierce was a Germanocentric Hitlerite and a Nordicist who painted a transparently false “pan-Aryan” veneer on the National Alliance to appeal to growing numbers of “racist” White ethnics.  KKK-Nutzi Duke’s racial fantasies are on display in My Awakening. Taylor is a HBD “race realist” whose Amren badmouths Italians, Hungarians, and Romanians as it praises Jews and Asians. Counter-Currents praises hyper-Nordicist “Wilmot Robertson” and tells us we need more men like Bill Clinton and Hubert Humphrey (and we know why). MacDonald has veered off into the fever swamps of HBD-Nordicism. Who?  I can continue the analysis, but the result will be the same. What GW dismisses as “unimaginably difficult” has never been tried, because the “leadership” of the “movement” have always been fixated on failed, past models of American racialism with roots in the early 20th century.

There is another problem here.  While I generally agree with the tone and meaning of GW’s third point, is isn’t really factually correct.  While it is true that most White Americans are ethnically mixed, and that some “leaders” may have Germans in their ancestry, the American “leadership” – the few “heroes” who have led us from one disaster to another – is mostly derived from GW’s beloved Anglo-Saxons: Taylor, Pierce, Johnson, Rockwell, Covington, Duke, Williams, Spencer, Roper, etc. (acknowledging that some of those may have a “kraut in the woodpile”). Who’s “German?” Gliebe? Linder? Who else? Who else is there who is or was prominent?  Klassen?  Strom is Norwegian. Carto was – what? – partly French?  Who?  If GW thinks that Yeager is some sort of serious American WN leader, he’s nuts. If anything, American WN “leadership” (and sensibilities) is WASP, not German (although individuals like Pierce fetishized Germans). 

The whole mindset of the “leadership” is decades out-of-date and it is no surprise that their approach does not resonate with the White American masses.

These are likely insuperable problems, and a change of branding, whilst it may be necessary in itself, isn’t going to even scratch the surface.  Right now white Americans are quite involuntarily testing the thesis that worse is better, as the Dem attack winds itself up.  Right now, it seems likely that worse is only worse.

GW, who, like other Europeans, has a non-existent grasp of American realities, leaves out many of the real problems of the American “movement,” which are discussed at this blog on a regular basis.

Gresham’s Blogging

Quality most important.

Johnson at Counter-Currents is so closely mimicking the trajectory of Guessedworker at Majority Rights that it is uncanny; indeed, the similarity is so marked I suspect that there may be an ethnic-genetic underpinning to the behavior. In both cases, we observe poor judgment, shortsightedness, a poor understanding of costs vs. benefits, a dismissal of the consequences of editorial decisions, and zero consideration of the concept of Gresham’s Law as it applies to blogging.

The Sallis Groupuscule is a single individual writing a couple of blogs, read by whomever is reading them. Counter-Currents (and Majority Rights, etc.) in contrast is a dynamic community. It is a community because it is composed of a group of writers and a readership that includes an active commentariat with a number of fairly regular commentators. It is dynamic because the pool of writers and the composition of the commentariat (and the readership as a whole) changes over time.

Thus, just like comparing the USA of 1820 with that of 2020, the illusion of superficial stability over time masks the reality of dynamic change. A blog name is stable, the same person may be in charge, and the number of posts, page views, and comments may be stable or even increase. However, the people writing the posts and the people writing the comments will change over time, for better or for worse. Typically, it is for the worse. Gresham’s Law of blogging is that bad quality people will drive out good, unless there is a concerted effort to maintain quality; indeed, if the blog owner actually enables the degeneration, the rate of decay can be very rapid. That is a decay in quality. The quantity may look the same or better, masking the decline in quality in the “minds” of the simple-minded or delusional.

These people see and celebrate an increase in page views, but they ignore that the people viewing the page views are not from the quality, informed readers that they (at least originally) ostensibly desire. They ignore that the posts are of low quality, written by childish hacks. They console themselves that, yes, some of their most valuable writers and commentators are gone, but they can always dig up some warm bodies to fill the spaces, however inadequately. They look at the number of posts and comments, but do not see the coarsening of the discourse, the displacement of the highbrow by the lowbrow.  Their blog looks like it is thriving on the surface, but it is completely decaying from within.

At some point, the decay can no longer be masked and the over-inflated growth collapses like a burst balloon. The exhausted blog become a wasteland, and the people in charge seemingly do not understand why. They don’t understand that by always going for quantity over quality, by always pumping up page views with cheap controversy, by tolerating juvenile and superficial discussion, that they are wrecking their blog’s reputation for seriousness and are alienating quality writers, readers, and commentators.

This basic principle also explains why the “movement” is full of defectives, freaks, grifters, infiltrators, retards, etc. – the emphasis on quantity over quality. The Quota Queens, completely lacking any understanding of prudent management and conservative growth, fail to comprehend that having ten completely reliable and competent people is better than having a hundred freaks, incompetents, and informers.  To the Quota Queens, more is always better – more page views, more money, more people, more, more, always more.  They constantly fail to question their “more is better” mantra. They always fail to observe that low quality people always drive out those of high quality.

Is that because they themselves are of low quality, and are in positions of leadership for reasons other than merit?